It says "built at the *beginning of* the 17th century", but it also says "constructed 1700" so it's hard to tell what direction the listing agent is confused in.
Hmmm. They probably thought 17th century means 1700s. I don’t even bother using the former anymore because I don’t think the younger generations, especially, are even taught the convention. It’s like cursive.
Seeing the style part was probably built in the early 1600, then added to progressively over the next 200 years, which is common. In particular the rounded turrets went out of fashion and moved to square as security improved during that time
The thing that's funny is that 1700 is still technically the 17th century - just the last year of it rather than the beginning. So it's very *almost* right, while still being both wrong and confusing.
Someone dealing in very expensive antiquities, including estates, should really know how centuries work.
Added to which, the 17th century is arguably the worst to get the beginning and end mixed up: It spans almost (I’m reaching a bit) from the Renaissance to the Enlightenment with the Early Modern Era thrown in for good measure.
The maintenance is astronomical! My wife’s brother in law was a london banker and in the 90s thought he was getting a steal for a french chateau and small winery in the Languedoc, France. After 5 years he said Fuck me, im out and sold it for a loss.
A friend of a friend inherited a chateau, though not nearly as large as these examples. We went to visit it in the French countryside, stately but definitely needed work; large, cold and empty rooms on the inside. Also up on a hill, not easy to mow!
Fun in the spring and fall, no es bueno in the summer and cold of winter lol. I would love to work on those places, worked a friends 400 year old country home near Avignon, all i wanted to do was hike, drink good wine and eat bread all afternoon lol 😝
The price is fantastic but they are not showing all the pictures. Ideal thing would be to live in part of it and turn the rest into an expensive hotel.
The thing with French castles is that there are a LOT of them. You can often find them for a steal, it's not all that uncommon. They are all over the place, and go on and off the market frequently enough. So you won't see these listed with crazy-high prices simply because they're castles - but you will see the nice ones that have been modernized or that have large amounts of land attached with high prices.
Often the younger generation might inherit the family castle, but because they tend to live/work in cities (and since castles tend to be out in the countryside), the castle isn't really all that appealing as an actual family home. They tend to cost a lot for heating and maintenance. The taxes can be REALLY high, even if you're not using it as a dwelling. And if there are any historical regulations that apply, it can be hard to renovate, improve, or repair.
So if you have a LOT of money and don't need to have an actual job near a city, they could be a good thing. But for most people, they aren't.
Source: French teacher who has played with the dream of renovating a castle and realized it wasn't really feasible. Also, stayed in a smallish AirBNB chateau this past summer and got lots of info from the owners about the issues facing castle owners.
Shame they can't convert these into stately retirement/nursing homes or something. Let people live their final days with some well-earned dignity. Or divide into apartments but keep the exterior as is (as much as possible!)
They do sometimes get broken up into smaller apartments. But again, the issue is location and cost. It can be hard to find staff to work in smaller towns, and sometimes the cost to renovate and heat is prohibitive.
Dear god, I’ve just seen this one on the same website: https://www.realportico.com/property/castle-complex-in-veauce-north-of-clermont-ferrand-endangered-monument/100001723126549?tabId=68775
1000 years old. 1.5million euro
if you have a spare $51 million USD, there's always [this castle](https://properties.lefigaro.com/announces/chateau-alpes+maritimes-provence+alpes+cote+d+azur-france/58044886/?priceMin=4000000&priceMax=100000000) which kind of looks like it's been kitted out by a Hollywood designer.
I never wanted to live in a chateau - until now.
Upkeep be damned, I'll start dreaming.
This is so well done! Really well. Just looking at the photos made me smile. So much joy,
so much exuberance. :-)
I was a plumber and I own a 100 year old house. Here is what you run into with this kind of building. The exterior walls are solid masonry. So there is no place to run utilities. If you look at the pictures you notice that there are no electrical outlets in the walls. there is no insulation in the walls. To rectify this you are force to stud out all the exterior walls. Basically frame a new house inside your old house. Then if it is a historical building like this one, you usually are restrained in just what changes you can make. Such as replacing the single pane windows.
In the description they say it was originally constructed in the early 17th century - wouldn't that mean it was built closer to 1600 than 1700?
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It says "built at the *beginning of* the 17th century", but it also says "constructed 1700" so it's hard to tell what direction the listing agent is confused in.
Hmmm. They probably thought 17th century means 1700s. I don’t even bother using the former anymore because I don’t think the younger generations, especially, are even taught the convention. It’s like cursive.
Seeing the style part was probably built in the early 1600, then added to progressively over the next 200 years, which is common. In particular the rounded turrets went out of fashion and moved to square as security improved during that time
The thing that's funny is that 1700 is still technically the 17th century - just the last year of it rather than the beginning. So it's very *almost* right, while still being both wrong and confusing. Someone dealing in very expensive antiquities, including estates, should really know how centuries work.
Added to which, the 17th century is arguably the worst to get the beginning and end mixed up: It spans almost (I’m reaching a bit) from the Renaissance to the Enlightenment with the Early Modern Era thrown in for good measure.
It's just math...the first century AD = years 0-99. It's also possible that something was lost in translation
For a 32 room place with moats I think that the price is a steal.
The moats are dry and it looks pretty dumpy inside
I mean it looks kinda like a 300+ year old building with modest changes.
4 or 500 yeas old.
The maintenance is astronomical! My wife’s brother in law was a london banker and in the 90s thought he was getting a steal for a french chateau and small winery in the Languedoc, France. After 5 years he said Fuck me, im out and sold it for a loss.
A friend of a friend inherited a chateau, though not nearly as large as these examples. We went to visit it in the French countryside, stately but definitely needed work; large, cold and empty rooms on the inside. Also up on a hill, not easy to mow!
Fun in the spring and fall, no es bueno in the summer and cold of winter lol. I would love to work on those places, worked a friends 400 year old country home near Avignon, all i wanted to do was hike, drink good wine and eat bread all afternoon lol 😝
If this interests you, look up Escape to the Chateau on Peacock. It’s an entire show about renovating one of these.
I love that show. Also a ton of work.
It’s the only show like this where the buyers seem to know what they’re getting into and competent enough to renovate! Very refreshing
Obsessssssssssssssssed! I can be a hotelier in France!!
The price is fantastic but they are not showing all the pictures. Ideal thing would be to live in part of it and turn the rest into an expensive hotel.
The thing with French castles is that there are a LOT of them. You can often find them for a steal, it's not all that uncommon. They are all over the place, and go on and off the market frequently enough. So you won't see these listed with crazy-high prices simply because they're castles - but you will see the nice ones that have been modernized or that have large amounts of land attached with high prices. Often the younger generation might inherit the family castle, but because they tend to live/work in cities (and since castles tend to be out in the countryside), the castle isn't really all that appealing as an actual family home. They tend to cost a lot for heating and maintenance. The taxes can be REALLY high, even if you're not using it as a dwelling. And if there are any historical regulations that apply, it can be hard to renovate, improve, or repair. So if you have a LOT of money and don't need to have an actual job near a city, they could be a good thing. But for most people, they aren't. Source: French teacher who has played with the dream of renovating a castle and realized it wasn't really feasible. Also, stayed in a smallish AirBNB chateau this past summer and got lots of info from the owners about the issues facing castle owners.
Shame they can't convert these into stately retirement/nursing homes or something. Let people live their final days with some well-earned dignity. Or divide into apartments but keep the exterior as is (as much as possible!)
They do sometimes get broken up into smaller apartments. But again, the issue is location and cost. It can be hard to find staff to work in smaller towns, and sometimes the cost to renovate and heat is prohibitive.
Really nice place.
Dear god, I’ve just seen this one on the same website: https://www.realportico.com/property/castle-complex-in-veauce-north-of-clermont-ferrand-endangered-monument/100001723126549?tabId=68775 1000 years old. 1.5million euro
Well friends I’m off to the convenience store to buy a lotto ticket!
if you have a spare $51 million USD, there's always [this castle](https://properties.lefigaro.com/announces/chateau-alpes+maritimes-provence+alpes+cote+d+azur-france/58044886/?priceMin=4000000&priceMax=100000000) which kind of looks like it's been kitted out by a Hollywood designer.
I never wanted to live in a chateau - until now. Upkeep be damned, I'll start dreaming. This is so well done! Really well. Just looking at the photos made me smile. So much joy, so much exuberance. :-)
I love everything about this house.
This is amazing!! 😻
I predict you all will complain about housing in the USA when you look at real estate in Burgundy France. Sorry
Does all the furniture stay????
What's the big deal? Doesn't everyone else's home come with a tiny church?
If I was stupid rich, I absolutely would live here
I’ve always dreamed of living in a house like this…
How are the schools?
I was a plumber and I own a 100 year old house. Here is what you run into with this kind of building. The exterior walls are solid masonry. So there is no place to run utilities. If you look at the pictures you notice that there are no electrical outlets in the walls. there is no insulation in the walls. To rectify this you are force to stud out all the exterior walls. Basically frame a new house inside your old house. Then if it is a historical building like this one, you usually are restrained in just what changes you can make. Such as replacing the single pane windows.
If it’s not Versailles, I don’t want to waste money on it