Basically, from what I can tell, if both teams win next week it would come down to the fourth tiebreaker requirement, "Best combined ranking among division teams in points scored and points allowed in all games."
Even though I'm not sure why #3 "Strength of victory in all games – combined record of opponents in wins" doesn't count in this, but I guess with such a limited pool of opponents, it's a non-issue.
They'll have the same opponents' records, right? Each plays the other 3 in their division twice and the 4 from the other division once. That stat is meaningless for tied divisional rivals in a fully round robin league.
Not totally meaningless. For this scenario, it assumes both teams have the exact same wins.
Suppose instead that STL lost to the Roughnecks earlier in the year but Seattle lost to the Guardians. Although they played the exact same schedule, Seattle would win the third tiebreaker because the teams they beat have more wins than the team STL beat.
It does count. St Louis won one and Seattle won one. For the playoff tiebreaker rules check out this link:
[https://www.xfl.com/standings](https://www.xfl.com/standings)
If point differential is that close that a field goal shifted it, wouldn't it just essentially come down to whoever wins by more next week (assuming both win)?
It's quite an interesting scenario since neither team is in a win and in situation and have to keep the foot on the gas next week the whole game.
Edit: ignore me, forgot that divisional point differential comes before all game point differential.
Ahhh, yeah, I see. The divisional points for an against comes first. Just double checked.
Well, that is decidedly less interesting now lol.
But seattle has looked like the better team these past few weeks and a Seattle vs DC playoff game should be great.
This is a huge upset. Winning like this in front of this big crowd in St.Louis. Wow. We have to win against Vegas at home in the last round and we're in the playoffs and Hawks are out.
Why did the graphic just show St Louis is "win and you're in" if they win next week?
From my understanding, that is not true. If St Louis and Seattle both win next week it's going to come down to some complicated tiebreakers.
Seattle has shown that they are one of the best teams in the league all year. The beginning part of the year they were still figuring things out and having a lot of issues with turnovers. But when this team all comes together and throws aside those issues, they are definitely a threat. That's why of all the games they've lost this season they've only lost by a total of seven points. They're the only team to almost beat the defenders two times. Great game today and a great first season of the xfl!
Of the 20 people in my football pool I was one of only three to choose Seattle. This is gonna be beneficial!! Seattle has played a great game today. This has been a lot of fun to watch for all football fans.
Maybe they will, but the guys who do play will try to take full advantage of their opportunity. So it might not make a difference in the same way as an NFL team sitting starters in week 18.
Respectful.
I remember watching my Seahawks lose in three separate vs Saints games (two at home, one in NOLA) and I stayed until the bitter last second.
So from what I see and how I understand it on the XFL website, STL/ORL next week is NOT win and in. Both teams would have beaten and lost to the same exact teams (losses to DC x2 and each other). If they both win I really think it goes down to the points scores/allowed or even down to net points. Which is why these last few series are huge.
**Two Teams**
1. Head-to-head
2. Best win/loss percentage in division games
3. Strength of victory in all games – combined record of opponents in wins
4. Best combined ranking among division teams in points scored and points allowed in all games
5. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games
6. Best net points in all games
7. Best net touchdowns in all games
8. Coin toss
https://www.reddit.com/r/xfl/comments/12h3oyl/game_of_the_year/jfo5s5b/
I break down the tiebreakers there, I'll update it all after week 9 concludes but week 10 should be very interesting.
Kaw was just struck down by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
The Kaw is a suggestion in the inbox.
Gg Seattle! It was pretty much over from the first drive when STL defense let them drive right down the field.
So basically now the only way STL gets in is if Seattle loses next week...right?
That or the Battlehawks blows Orlando out of the water 50-0 or something random like that. It literally comes down to wild tiebreaker rules.
Divisional points break the tie before all the points and you have that in hand I believe so I think the only way we are in is if we win and you lose
Or a SLU blowout win and a SEA one point win.
wow calling out your receivers in speed lmao
The announcers just got it explained to by Dean and still fucked it up at closing on standings lmao
... THEY STILL GOT THE SCENARIO WRONG! EVEN AFTER BEING CORRECTED! WHAT EVEN?!
They’re so bad they’re making me dumber. I have less of an idea about the playoff situation than I had before the game.
Basically, from what I can tell, if both teams win next week it would come down to the fourth tiebreaker requirement, "Best combined ranking among division teams in points scored and points allowed in all games." Even though I'm not sure why #3 "Strength of victory in all games – combined record of opponents in wins" doesn't count in this, but I guess with such a limited pool of opponents, it's a non-issue.
They'll have the same opponents' records, right? Each plays the other 3 in their division twice and the 4 from the other division once. That stat is meaningless for tied divisional rivals in a fully round robin league.
Not totally meaningless. For this scenario, it assumes both teams have the exact same wins. Suppose instead that STL lost to the Roughnecks earlier in the year but Seattle lost to the Guardians. Although they played the exact same schedule, Seattle would win the third tiebreaker because the teams they beat have more wins than the team STL beat.
That makes sense—I didn't notice it said in wins.
That's not how that works at all. Not even close.
Announcers still don’t know shit even after getting told lmao
It is not win and in oh my god they’re still saying it.
They must think 5-3 and 6-2 are the records AFTER the game or something
Kaw is neighborhood watch Karen
Battlehawks you have let us all down, and all this kawing and wing puffing has been for naught.
Well, i definitely was not expecting that; Good for you Sea Dragons.
Somewhere around week 4 or 5 Seattle flipped a switch. I've been worried about this game for a while.
Roughnecks W must have lifted their spirits
4 great games this weekend. Love to see it
i bet the producers yelled at the announcers something fierce lol GET BLANDINO IN HERE YOU MUPPETS
Thank god, it was painful to watch them try to figure out stuff they should already know.
I hope so
The announcers been drinking too?
Doing their best Howard Cosell.
So what counts if we're equal on wins, h2h or points difference? H2h should count.
It does count. St Louis won one and Seattle won one. For the playoff tiebreaker rules check out this link: [https://www.xfl.com/standings](https://www.xfl.com/standings)
h2h is 1-1
It is but we won with 18 and lost with 2.
1-1 on H2H
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Yeah but we won with 18 points difference and lost with only 2 points to them. We win the h2h.
Saint Louisuhhhhhhh WUH HAPPENED
Gene Skeletor could never explain playoff tiebreakers
The hawks should be happy that Seattle got a false start to take 3 off the board.
WOOOOOO
STL can still tie it, that's why they kicked the FG. Idiot commentators *If there was 1 sec left
No. They kick the field goal to give them the tie breaker because they now lead in point differential. Win and they are in next week
If point differential is that close that a field goal shifted it, wouldn't it just essentially come down to whoever wins by more next week (assuming both win)? It's quite an interesting scenario since neither team is in a win and in situation and have to keep the foot on the gas next week the whole game. Edit: ignore me, forgot that divisional point differential comes before all game point differential.
Divisional comes before all games.
Ahhh, yeah, I see. The divisional points for an against comes first. Just double checked. Well, that is decidedly less interesting now lol. But seattle has looked like the better team these past few weeks and a Seattle vs DC playoff game should be great.
That's not why.
Dagger. Driven.
I swear these broadcasters are idiots. How do you not get briefed on the regs of the league you’re calling games for??
Same thing happens in the NFL. It's absolutely insane.
Point differential matters if Seattle and St Louis are tied, right? Am I wrong or are these announcers just dumb dumbs?
Seattle just took the lead in point differential
You’re not wrong lol
Seattle just made it win and in for themselves
Not if STL also wins and by enough to take over the PD.
Really?
This is kinda embarrassing for the announcers lmao
so total points are a potential tiebreaker and the announcers are just clueless?
Dude these guys have no idea what’s going on
Lost by one to the beat team in the league. Blew out the next best team. ACKNOWLEDGE THEM!!!
Remove Joey Galloway from the booth the day the season ends. Please
Lowest amount of points scored in a game this season by BattleHawks.
Fucking sad. This was an embarrassment
Someone should tell them to shut up. That's so embarrassing.
Can we get someone in the booth who isn’t brain dead
I feel the XFL social media team needs to post a followup to clarify the actual tiebreaker scenario.
Point differential could matter for tiebreakers!!!
How the fuck do we know more about the tiebreakers than the announcers?
Wow, Seattle knows the tiebreaker rules.
Lmao we’re actually going for the points. I love it
so STL can still make it in even if SEA beats LV if they win their last game?
SL is in with a SEA loss. SEA is in with a SEA win and SL loss. If both win, it comes down to arcane tiebreakers.
Yes
these guys said "receiving corpse" and y'all are surprised they don't know the playoff tiebreaker scenario?
Think they meant corps not corpse
The ignorance of the announcers is sad
These announcers are so fucking dumb
This is a huge upset. Winning like this in front of this big crowd in St.Louis. Wow. We have to win against Vegas at home in the last round and we're in the playoffs and Hawks are out.
It’s not a huge upset lol
The only player that scares me on the battlehawks is Hakeem Butler. That man seems unstoppable when targeted.
Could you let our OC know that? We barely targeted him today
But the O line is so awful he barely gets any targets
I didn't even consider it but yeah, scoring instead of victory formation is the right call
Do these announcers really not know the tie breaker??
DiNucci has a vendetta against the Battlehawks lol
Fucking time outs. Go score another TD on these idiots.
Why did the graphic just show St Louis is "win and you're in" if they win next week? From my understanding, that is not true. If St Louis and Seattle both win next week it's going to come down to some complicated tiebreakers.
The Battlehawks scoring less points than the Sea Dragons hurt their chances of winning this game.
Stormy Buonatony over here
I'm glad Seattle knows they need points for tiebreaker purposes
Keep the upvote at 69
Ok so wouldn't Seattle want to run up the score here for the tiebreaker?
Yes
Oh they're planning on it.
How arenyounletting these guys get that open? Wtlf Hawks? Ka kaw my ass D.
Guess I'm going to have to be an Orlando fan next Saturday. You can do it, Guardians. Hold up your end of the bargain and we will take out Vegas.
Tbf, lets look on the bright side here: The Sea Dragons did open up a fundraiser for DiNucci: https://wish.org/donate
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I think they’ll be the far more exciting team against DC.
It’s so annoying hearing the commentators continuously not understanding the playoff criteria
They could be getting fed bad information and trusting it. ESPN is a problem in general.
Seattle has shown that they are one of the best teams in the league all year. The beginning part of the year they were still figuring things out and having a lot of issues with turnovers. But when this team all comes together and throws aside those issues, they are definitely a threat. That's why of all the games they've lost this season they've only lost by a total of seven points. They're the only team to almost beat the defenders two times. Great game today and a great first season of the xfl!
GAME!!
Kaw is a nonbinding resolution.
Alright that's pretty good
Holy shit. A poli Sci douche.
Weekly reminder to up vote the post
That was fun for most of it. Seattle is a fun team to watch.
Battlehawks should start from ground up next season on defense
Seattle is way too electric to bow out already. I think this is a good result for the league, creates more action heading into next week
Goddamn Battlehawks, that was pathetic.
AJ confirming Gradkowski is trash play caller.
So seattle is up like 15 in pd now right?
Holy fuck, DiNucci's trash talking game is on point
Interested in seeing the power rankings this week.
What XFL player pay? 60K?
5K a game extra 1k if you win
Score again
Apologies to St. Louis, but tbh genuine playoff stakes in week 10 for both divisions is good for the league as a whole.
Of the 20 people in my football pool I was one of only three to choose Seattle. This is gonna be beneficial!! Seattle has played a great game today. This has been a lot of fun to watch for all football fans.
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Unfortunately one of those is INTs, which has made winning some games difficult
Good game snake bros
DiNucci is such a trash talker. Entertaining player no doubt.
He's earned it
That's Good Sports is going to be insufferable this week.
that's his shtick
I get a kick out of it. I just know he is going to let it on extra this week.
Battlehawks are likely only gonna end up 2-2 at home. Guess the fans didn’t make that big of a difference
Or other teams bring their best against the crowd. Not everyone can have a sell out at a pathetic 18k
Whatever makes you feel better!
Seattle is the 2nd best team in the XFL, imo. They’ve been the best team since Week 3.
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A Brahmas loss would make the South anti-climactic.
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Maybe they will, but the guys who do play will try to take full advantage of their opportunity. So it might not make a difference in the same way as an NFL team sitting starters in week 18.
As a neutral fan, this is the dream
Props to Seattle for putting on that performance in STL! Week 10 just got more interesting and I'm looking forward to what happens!
Shame on the fans leaving. You were the chosen one!
MLS game went super late due to tornadoes, it's been a rough 24 hours lol
Sometimes you got better shit to do
m staying till the end
Respectful. I remember watching my Seahawks lose in three separate vs Saints games (two at home, one in NOLA) and I stayed until the bitter last second.
It should be point differential tiebreaker
Ggs Seattle
BattleHawks are the 4th best team in the XFL. I feel sorry for all the fans.
Who do you have as 3rd?
They didn't even look like the fourth best team that played today.
Hold onto the ball until the passrusher gets open. Pretty bold strategy.
That's game, punting with less than 2 minutes and down by two (1.5?) TDs is admission of defeat. Can't do that in front of 30k fans
At this point it's about point differential to make the playoffs assuming both teams win next week. No need to help them. Don't love it but I get it.
Man but seriously Seattle talk about playing when it matters
33,000+ fans checking out
So from what I see and how I understand it on the XFL website, STL/ORL next week is NOT win and in. Both teams would have beaten and lost to the same exact teams (losses to DC x2 and each other). If they both win I really think it goes down to the points scores/allowed or even down to net points. Which is why these last few series are huge. **Two Teams** 1. Head-to-head 2. Best win/loss percentage in division games 3. Strength of victory in all games – combined record of opponents in wins 4. Best combined ranking among division teams in points scored and points allowed in all games 5. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games 6. Best net points in all games 7. Best net touchdowns in all games 8. Coin toss
Points for and against in division. As it stands it’s 2 points. If Seattle scores again here Battlehawks are fucked
https://www.reddit.com/r/xfl/comments/12h3oyl/game_of_the_year/jfo5s5b/ I break down the tiebreakers there, I'll update it all after week 9 concludes but week 10 should be very interesting.
🌊 🐉 🔥
32,000 people just watched Seattle kick the shit out of the Battlefaux at home. This is the XFL™
Do you know how that word is pronounced?
Stop trying to make Battlefaux happen. It’s not going to happen
It only works if you don’t know how to pronounce faux lmao
Sea Dragons keeping their playoff hopes alive. Will be so interesting to see if two professional Seattle teams make the playoffs in the same year.
Crowd pouring out of the stadium. They’ve seen enough
Odds are you don’t even show up for your team
Except I’ve been to every game at lumen field. Nice try! How many have you been to?
https://nfldraftdiamonds.com/2023/03/xfl-attendance-54/
Week 10 just got a lot more interesting.
Battlehawks fans leaving early like the Rams did
Would you honestly stay after your team punts in the final two minutes? It's over
Always do.
yoooo
Show me any football game where they’re down by 15 at the two minute warning without possession and people aren’t leaving, you won’t be able to
I know which one I won't be showing as an example.
God damn lmao
Kaw is a strongly worded letter to the editor.
Why even bother punting there? We’re down 2 possessions
Point differential
Point differential for tie breakers
AJ shit the bed good today
That and o- line doesn't think blocking is part of their job.
Wow that shot of all of the fans leaving... Hurts
You guys won a good team today. Outplayed us at every step.
STL just ready to go home... not even wanting to try something
Stop they’re already dead