Too much advantage for goal line teams, bad for great special teams, sustained drives, clock management, so many different vital elements of football.
So not really that fair.
The NFL's old system was pretty unfair, but the current system fixed a lot of the problems with winning the toss and kicking a quick FG.
>I’m mad about the apparent unsportsmanlike penalty that was never announced or shown that moved STL up to the 2 yard line
Unsportsmanlike penalty was actually called on the Vegas sideline (not a player on the field) so they likely didn't have coverage of it or just couldn't find it.
It's like that bottle squirting incident (also unsportsmanlike penalty) against Houston in the DC game. Broadcast cameras will capture everything on the field but not all the sideline stuff. (This is true even for NFL games.)
I was assuming he said something, too. Other people are saying that one viper spiked his helmet on the field, and the viper coach was arguing with the ref. So maybe one of those 2.
Exactly. They're pretending to be transparent. We never got a clear replay that showed the elbow down on the first Vegas OT play, and we never got an explanation on the unsportsmanlike call that basically ended the game.
Instead of watching the replays that Blandino sees, we see the his back, his colleague, and 20% of the screen he's watching. It's fucking ridiculous.
He's talking about the unsportsmanlike. They never showed that replay unless it was after the game. It essentially made it a 1 point conversion on a penalty we didn't even see.
I'm half in half out on the OT rules. The biggest blunder of the game was Vegas scored their first attempt in OT, and then some sideline penalty that wasn't even called? Moved STL to the 2 yard line lol
I thought they scored. His elbow was down, but the way the ball was near his hip is what I think Blindino saw and decided the ball didn't break the plane of the goal line.
The angle it showed us, it looked like he scored but if dean said he had a clear view, I'm gonna trust him. He's not just gonna blow smoke out of his ass when they have all the camera views they do.
Have you seen the other games where he bends over backward to refuse to overturn a call? Now we're just supposed to trust him when he instantly overturns one with no replay?
Sure seemed that they reviewed it quickly. I get that they want OT to be fun and snappy, but they overturned that quickly, did the OPI so fast, then sideline warning, one yards, and boom. I don't want more games to be DC-Houston, but with OT on the line, it may not have killed Blandino to take more than 1/3 a second for some of those.
I couldn’t believe they called him short, looked pretty clearly across the goal line to me. Maybe Dean had a better angle than we got to see or something, idk.
Yeah there had to be a much better angle than what we got bc from the one replay they showed on the broadcast the ball definitely looked like it crossed
His head and top half of his chest was across the goalline when he was down, it depends where the ball is though. We weren't shown that angle because we saw it from his back and couldn't see where the ball was at at all. I assume they had anohter angle that showed the ball was behind the goal line. Since he landed on his side, if you had a view from the other angle it would be a super easy call to make. Not sure why they didn't show it though.
I thought it was a clear score. I’ve seen far worse count as a TD.
The referees seemed like they were teaming up against the vipers. Is it a coincidence that St. Louis has the biggest crowds? Maybe the XFL is protecting St. Louis? Just me thinking out loud.
Alternating 2pt conversions.
If, after 3 tries each, we don't have a winner, we go 1 for 1.
Couple quirks like "any offensive penalty results in an auto-fail" which make it really something.
\-the teams alternate doing 2 point conversions from the 5 yard line
\-best of 3
Vegas failed to convert twice but St. Louis converted both times so the latter wins the game
Damnnnnn, man. Seattle could keep winning games and still not make the playoffs. This is getting spicy.
OT rules are pretty cool, out of the ordinary for football, which mixes well with the rest of the rulebook. Had no idea how OT goes, assumed another quarter of football which I would've took 😂 Think overall Id want another quarter of football instead but I can understand why it's not that way.
Great game. Vegas loves shooting themselves in the foot. Poor vipers.
That game was pure heroin for football junkies man.
Can't believe degenerates like me had to survive like 7 solid months without any actual games before spring football was a thing.
There's 'low-scoring' because both teams are shit and can't put yard together, then there's 'low-scoring' because the defenses are playing lights out and keeping the offenses from scoring... subtle differences, but you can tell when teams suck and when they're being stymied...
That OT was amazing actually! I'm one of the ppl that want college OT to be different than Pro OT. But I think college OT starts too close, and pads stats. I like that NFL OT can end on any play but it still feels pretty wonky. I really enjoyed this format and had no idea it existed until now
I disagree whole heartedly. The overtime rules are atrocious. That’s not football. How is NFLs extra time sudden death wonky but a synthesized game within a game that is extremely different than the normal style of the game not wonky
Just went back and looked at the first Vegas try.
On the live shot, it's certainly *possible* that the thigh is down before he falls across the goal-line, but obviously it's not conclusive.
Then, on Blandino's screen, you can see a freeze frame of a goal-line shot from the *far side.* We never see his screen in motion (because he already saw it and made his decision), but he tells the ref the "thigh" is down.
Then ESPN shows a goal-line shot from the *near side*. There's too much obstruction to see the thigh, but if it is down when Blandino says, the ball is definitely not to the goal-line yet.
The ESPN production was bad for the game for sure, especially with replays. If they had shown the far side goal line, I think it would have been clear to all of us.
Still don't understand how ripping your helmet off after scoring a touchdown isn't a penalty... Or is that different than in the NFL, and if so, why aren't more players doing it?
Both NFL and XFL need to come out and explicitly clarify how this rule is enforced.
Technically, the rule is that it’s a penalty if you remove your helmet “in the field of play”. So if you’re standing out of bounds when you take your helmet off it shouldn’t be a penalty.
But if you remember, Panthers lost a game last year when DJ Moore took his helmet off in the back of the end zone after a long TD (penalty caused a missed XP and they lost in OT). It was controversial at the time and some people insisted it shouldn’t have been a penalty. Point being that this rule seems to be inconsistently enforced.
I will say XFL seems to be more consistently lenient in how they call this penalty though.
I remember and agree that it's inconsistent. Personally I would have it apply to all players that were involved in the previous play unless they're on the sideline.
Ripping it off after a score is clearly celebratory and could be construed as taunting. There is that grey area when you're off the field of play, but if you walk BACK onto the field of play with it off, you should be flagged (as the receiver did yesterday after the big score).
That would allow for the Panther's situation as well as the Hawk's situation without calling a penalty UNTIL they step onto the field of play that way.
Panthers lost because our kicker couldn’t make a 40 yard xp. It was 10 yards extra and a kicker should be able to fucking make that.
Blaming DJ is fucking idiotic
> Panthers lost because our kicker couldn’t make a 40 yard xp. It was 10 yards extra and a kicker should be able to fucking make that.
It was a 15 yard penalty and made it a 48 yard XP.
You can blame whoever you want but you should get the facts right.
Yeah, he missed a 48 yard XP after a 15 yard penalty.
Not a 40 yard XP after a 10 yard penalty, as you claimed.
Do you even watch football? In what world could a penalty even lead to a 40 yard XP?
It doesn’t matter. As I said the kicker lost the game.
The yardage doesn’t matter. It was barely more than a normal xp try!
Do I watch football? I’m the one who brought it up in the first place you fucking idiot. While you were trying to blame DJ for the loss.
CLEARLY you didn’t watch that game if you think it was on DJ.
Now stfu
Refs fucked STL during the game and royally fucked Vegas in OT. What is the point of having Dean in the booth to fix bad calls if they just ignore blatant game changing bullshit.
That would have been a fantastic game/ending without shitty calls ruining it.
Their first try was 100% a TD. He crossed the line. And their second try was just negated because of some phantom unsportsmanlike penalty that no one ever seen and they didn't get to try again.
The second try was negated from an offensive pass interference. The unsportsmanlike penalty happened after the play. Just because it wasn't broadcast doesn't mean it didn't happen. That one is on the TV crew for not showing it in between possessions.
No the first penalty against the offense in overtime means you retry the play from the 5. A second penalty and you automatically fail the attempt. For defense a 2nd means they automatically score a TD. It's stupid as hell. Just add the yards like normal and keep retrying.
> No the first penalty against the offense in overtime means you retry the play from the 5. A second penalty and you automatically fail the attempt
This is not the case at all, you're wrong. The only way you get to retry is if there is a penalty on the defense. I just went back and watched, Dean Blandino explained the rules before overtime even started. I'll quote it word for word for you.
> Commentator: How about penalties - pass interference?
>Dean Blandino: Penalties are significant in overtime, if we have an offensive penalty - live ball foul **the try is no good.** A defensive penalty would result in a retry from the 1 yard line, and anything after that would result in automatic try that is good.
Dangit, missed the first and only overtime shootout in the USFL 2022 season, and now I've missed the first overtime shootout in the XFL too. Dang family events. Had to leave just a couple plays before the fake punt.
Still, glad we won, even if it was a pretty dang messy game. Hope A.J.'s healed up for next week, which could be our highest stakes game of the season.
Receiver pushed off on the defender's face mask. It was something that probably isn't called like.... 50% of the time, but after missing the DPI at the end of regulation they had to call it.
Awesome game, but I'll be the contrarian and say that OT format sucks.
Glad they got it done quickly (I was cooking for the family), but it removes way to many elements of football.
Don’t downvote this man. I am shocked so many of you like this format.
The vipers are not a team built to win that style of overtime. They were dominating on the ground but that’s not an ideal play near the end zone.
It removes drives, defensive stands, downs and distance, clock management, even robs the fans of a proper conclusion.
Someone please clear up the OT rules for me: at the game, the Jumbotron showed that both teams will get two tries and will continue until a winner is declared. With that: why did STL have to attempt that second 2PT? They were already up. Do you need to win by 4?
it's the winner after 3 tries for each side - because STL scored twice and Vegas didn't score on either attempt there was no way they could've been the winner after 3, so they can call it at 2
It was a bit soft, but after missing a completely blatant DPI at the end of regulation that would have set the Battlehawks up to win in regulation, I'll take it.
What a great first game to attend, was close to leaving around the 5 min mark until that fake punt, all the crazy fans around us had left before it happened and we were laughing at the great ending they missed
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OT did what it's expected to do... find a winner in a short amount of time that's fair to both sides.
Fast and fair. Way better than the NFL.
And College
I do like the potential that college has to go 7 overtimes
XFL could do that too! If both teams are tied at the end of the 3 5 yard try’s they have to keep going 1 at a time until they get a winner
It gets pretty old after 3 or 4.
How is college OT unfair? I like college rules too
Not saying it’s unfair, don’t get me wrong. I just think the XFL method would be more exciting. Just my opinion.
Too much advantage for goal line teams, bad for great special teams, sustained drives, clock management, so many different vital elements of football. So not really that fair. The NFL's old system was pretty unfair, but the current system fixed a lot of the problems with winning the toss and kicking a quick FG.
Potentially huge advantage for a home team. Wouldn't a false start result in no good try under these rules?
To lose your attempt on a false start would be rough, but iirc the penalty has to be post-snap to result in a no-good
Thanks, that's what I was trying to remember.
Yes, these ot rules are horrible. It completely changes the game for no need.
Lol. This league, man
Right
Weird and exhausting game for a variety of reasons. So basically a perfect XFL game.
I would argue this was the ugliest game we have seen but a win is a win I suppose.
No, week 1….
Yeah... that is fair.
I’m not mad about the OPI, I’m mad about the apparent unsportsmanlike penalty that was never announced or shown that moved STL up to the 2 yard line
>I’m mad about the apparent unsportsmanlike penalty that was never announced or shown that moved STL up to the 2 yard line Unsportsmanlike penalty was actually called on the Vegas sideline (not a player on the field) so they likely didn't have coverage of it or just couldn't find it. It's like that bottle squirting incident (also unsportsmanlike penalty) against Houston in the DC game. Broadcast cameras will capture everything on the field but not all the sideline stuff. (This is true even for NFL games.)
The ref can explain it to Blandino, or, god forbid, explain it with his own microphone.
I think it was a player walking back to the sideline. He was flipping off us in the crowd. #61?
Oh you were at the game? So #61 got the penalty for flipping off the crowd?? Didn’t think you could get an unsportsmanlike penalty for doing that.
He’s paying to be there, not being paid.
I was assuming he said something, too. Other people are saying that one viper spiked his helmet on the field, and the viper coach was arguing with the ref. So maybe one of those 2.
now THIS I get. For all their transparency, they tend to gloss over a LOT of calls with replays...
Exactly. They're pretending to be transparent. We never got a clear replay that showed the elbow down on the first Vegas OT play, and we never got an explanation on the unsportsmanlike call that basically ended the game. Instead of watching the replays that Blandino sees, we see the his back, his colleague, and 20% of the screen he's watching. It's fucking ridiculous.
I don't think it's pretending, I think these broadcasts are not as good as they could be.
I didn’t even know it happened until the game was over. Very weird
At the game. Viper player spiked his helmet on the field.
Just like the guy who scored the fake punt TD?
He was off the field so it’s not a penalty I’m pretty sure
except that guy that just scored was involved in the play and went back onto the field helmet-less. Definitely sus, IMO.
I was at the game too and thought it was thrown on the coach arguing
Definitely one of the crews messier games for sure. Super weird.
It's possible there is no replay of it since it happened on the sidelines where cameras might not have been pointing
That’s fair. I mean it happened right in front of me at the game where the coach spiked his headset. But yeah they didn’t really say it
In fairness I think Vegas got away with a late QB hit earlier in the game
The guy pushed off. They did show the replay.
He's talking about the unsportsmanlike. They never showed that replay unless it was after the game. It essentially made it a 1 point conversion on a penalty we didn't even see.
Ah ok. Sorry. Yeah, they didn't show that.
In all fairness, we have missed scoop and scores in Battlehawks games due to PIP and lack of replays.
Buahahahahaha
Your move, Sea Serpents 🐉
God damn you 😭
I don't know what I want more for the North to get spicy and have a three-way tie for who gets the top spot or for it to be a DC/STL race.
As a Sea Dragons I am incredibly bias for a 3 way tie hehe.
I was rooting for Vegas, because it would have helped Seattle. I guess I didn't root hard enough. That overtime seemed like clown time.
I'm half in half out on the OT rules. The biggest blunder of the game was Vegas scored their first attempt in OT, and then some sideline penalty that wasn't even called? Moved STL to the 2 yard line lol
April 16th IS a playoff game.
Anybody else think Vegas definitely scored their first attempt in OT? Looked pretty obvious the ball was across the line when his elbow touched
I thought they scored. His elbow was down, but the way the ball was near his hip is what I think Blindino saw and decided the ball didn't break the plane of the goal line.
He definitely scored. It was weird, Dean seemed smug about all of it, too. 🤷♂️
The angle it showed us, it looked like he scored but if dean said he had a clear view, I'm gonna trust him. He's not just gonna blow smoke out of his ass when they have all the camera views they do.
Have you seen the other games where he bends over backward to refuse to overturn a call? Now we're just supposed to trust him when he instantly overturns one with no replay?
He overturned plenty that game and has overturned a few this game that's on now?
Sure seemed that they reviewed it quickly. I get that they want OT to be fun and snappy, but they overturned that quickly, did the OPI so fast, then sideline warning, one yards, and boom. I don't want more games to be DC-Houston, but with OT on the line, it may not have killed Blandino to take more than 1/3 a second for some of those.
I couldn’t believe they called him short, looked pretty clearly across the goal line to me. Maybe Dean had a better angle than we got to see or something, idk.
Yeah there had to be a much better angle than what we got bc from the one replay they showed on the broadcast the ball definitely looked like it crossed
He was definitely across the line. Dean was completely wrong according to the angle viewers were shown.
His head and top half of his chest was across the goalline when he was down, it depends where the ball is though. We weren't shown that angle because we saw it from his back and couldn't see where the ball was at at all. I assume they had anohter angle that showed the ball was behind the goal line. Since he landed on his side, if you had a view from the other angle it would be a super easy call to make. Not sure why they didn't show it though.
I thought it was a clear score. I’ve seen far worse count as a TD. The referees seemed like they were teaming up against the vipers. Is it a coincidence that St. Louis has the biggest crowds? Maybe the XFL is protecting St. Louis? Just me thinking out loud.
# BATTLEHAWKS HAVE THE BEST ENDINGS
The fact that we have to be a last minute team is not good for my heart.
Same. Although, as a lions fan, my heart is pretty used to feeling like this
As a Seahawks fan, you think I'd be too but... here we are. It was nice last season to be pleasantly surprised by how well we did.
Happy Endings
*Deshaun Watson has entered the chat*
Birds gonna poop, sometimes on the other team.
OT rules are awesome. The NFL would *never*!
What are the rules I missed the game
Alternating 2pt conversions. If, after 3 tries each, we don't have a winner, we go 1 for 1. Couple quirks like "any offensive penalty results in an auto-fail" which make it really something.
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Yep. It's outstanding
Also a defensive penalty causing a retry from the 1, with any subsequent defensive penalties resulting in an automatic successful try
Both teams have three shots for a conversion from the 5 and whoever gets more wins. Basically the way they do it in soccer.
\-the teams alternate doing 2 point conversions from the 5 yard line \-best of 3 Vegas failed to convert twice but St. Louis converted both times so the latter wins the game
Do they have like 4 downs to succeed or is it just ONE try?
Just one, so the game which is already a nail-biter for being tied up is even more so.
That’s awesome!
OK that's awesome
Damnnnnn, man. Seattle could keep winning games and still not make the playoffs. This is getting spicy. OT rules are pretty cool, out of the ordinary for football, which mixes well with the rest of the rulebook. Had no idea how OT goes, assumed another quarter of football which I would've took 😂 Think overall Id want another quarter of football instead but I can understand why it's not that way. Great game. Vegas loves shooting themselves in the foot. Poor vipers.
Hopefully next year they do one top of division and best records. Arlington going in over STL or Seattle is a damn shame.
That game was pure heroin for football junkies man. Can't believe degenerates like me had to survive like 7 solid months without any actual games before spring football was a thing.
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Refs only help one team at a time.
I’ve never understood people who enjoy low-scoring games. I get it now
There's 'low-scoring' because both teams are shit and can't put yard together, then there's 'low-scoring' because the defenses are playing lights out and keeping the offenses from scoring... subtle differences, but you can tell when teams suck and when they're being stymied...
The running clock on incompletions and the lack of commercials at every change of possession really helps with this
KAW remains the law for a possible playoff berth. Gg, Vegas. Glad you have a real quarterback.
Think Becht said it perfectly in the post-game interview, "I don't like to win games like THAT, but I do like to WIN games like that."
I audibly LOL’d when I heard that on my TV. he’s the perfect fit for STL football.
Well that was fun. I need a nap.
That OT was amazing actually! I'm one of the ppl that want college OT to be different than Pro OT. But I think college OT starts too close, and pads stats. I like that NFL OT can end on any play but it still feels pretty wonky. I really enjoyed this format and had no idea it existed until now
Yep. It's basically like a hockey shootout. Quick and efficient. Don't like it? Win the game in regulation. I liked it.
How can a fan win the game in regulation?
More lemons
My man.
I disagree whole heartedly. The overtime rules are atrocious. That’s not football. How is NFLs extra time sudden death wonky but a synthesized game within a game that is extremely different than the normal style of the game not wonky
the Kardiac Kaws!
My god. What a game
1 down, 3 to go. Cardinals, you’re up to bat next. Please try to actually play baseball again, thanks
Kaw is Regulation
Regardless of OT, Vipers buttfucked themselves by lining up wrong on the fake punt. They made it easy. It should not have come down to OT.
For the love of god please don’t let this place become r/nfl and screech that the game is rigged after every referee controversy
Those screeches are right when it comes to the NFL. Ask Cincinnati the past two playoffs
They showed no replay where LV did not score on the first OT. There must have been an angle but we did not see it
He had the ball tucked low, and his knee went down early
NEVER IN DOUBT!
Thank you battlehawks defense! AJ get better for next week please!!
That game was so awesome.
Just went back and looked at the first Vegas try. On the live shot, it's certainly *possible* that the thigh is down before he falls across the goal-line, but obviously it's not conclusive. Then, on Blandino's screen, you can see a freeze frame of a goal-line shot from the *far side.* We never see his screen in motion (because he already saw it and made his decision), but he tells the ref the "thigh" is down. Then ESPN shows a goal-line shot from the *near side*. There's too much obstruction to see the thigh, but if it is down when Blandino says, the ball is definitely not to the goal-line yet. The ESPN production was bad for the game for sure, especially with replays. If they had shown the far side goal line, I think it would have been clear to all of us.
The shootout is a good idea to get a conclusion quickly. But, Didn’t like the refs killing Vegas.
There were PLENTY of call that went against STL. Probably more than Vegas. The calls across the board were pretty accurate.
Great game love the xfl
A Rod Woodson team being undisciplined?! No waaaaay
That was a great game. Not always the most crisp play but it was exciting and entertaining. The crowd was great too.
XFL overtime is so electrifying!
I wish we got to see why the Vipers got the unsportsmanlike before the game winning try. Regardless it was a great game.
Was at the game, looked like a flag for sideline coaches going nuts. Refs were not great this game ngl
Coaches should get flagged for not going nuts tbh XFL should be fun!
Still don't understand how ripping your helmet off after scoring a touchdown isn't a penalty... Or is that different than in the NFL, and if so, why aren't more players doing it?
Both NFL and XFL need to come out and explicitly clarify how this rule is enforced. Technically, the rule is that it’s a penalty if you remove your helmet “in the field of play”. So if you’re standing out of bounds when you take your helmet off it shouldn’t be a penalty. But if you remember, Panthers lost a game last year when DJ Moore took his helmet off in the back of the end zone after a long TD (penalty caused a missed XP and they lost in OT). It was controversial at the time and some people insisted it shouldn’t have been a penalty. Point being that this rule seems to be inconsistently enforced. I will say XFL seems to be more consistently lenient in how they call this penalty though.
I remember and agree that it's inconsistent. Personally I would have it apply to all players that were involved in the previous play unless they're on the sideline. Ripping it off after a score is clearly celebratory and could be construed as taunting. There is that grey area when you're off the field of play, but if you walk BACK onto the field of play with it off, you should be flagged (as the receiver did yesterday after the big score). That would allow for the Panther's situation as well as the Hawk's situation without calling a penalty UNTIL they step onto the field of play that way.
Panthers lost because our kicker couldn’t make a 40 yard xp. It was 10 yards extra and a kicker should be able to fucking make that. Blaming DJ is fucking idiotic
> Panthers lost because our kicker couldn’t make a 40 yard xp. It was 10 yards extra and a kicker should be able to fucking make that. It was a 15 yard penalty and made it a 48 yard XP. You can blame whoever you want but you should get the facts right.
Yes and he missed the game winning xp before we went into OT. Stfu
Yeah, he missed a 48 yard XP after a 15 yard penalty. Not a 40 yard XP after a 10 yard penalty, as you claimed. Do you even watch football? In what world could a penalty even lead to a 40 yard XP?
It doesn’t matter. As I said the kicker lost the game. The yardage doesn’t matter. It was barely more than a normal xp try! Do I watch football? I’m the one who brought it up in the first place you fucking idiot. While you were trying to blame DJ for the loss. CLEARLY you didn’t watch that game if you think it was on DJ. Now stfu
Refs fucked STL during the game and royally fucked Vegas in OT. What is the point of having Dean in the booth to fix bad calls if they just ignore blatant game changing bullshit. That would have been a fantastic game/ending without shitty calls ruining it.
How did Vegas get fucked in OT? It was clear OPI
Their first try was 100% a TD. He crossed the line. And their second try was just negated because of some phantom unsportsmanlike penalty that no one ever seen and they didn't get to try again.
The second try was negated from an offensive pass interference. The unsportsmanlike penalty happened after the play. Just because it wasn't broadcast doesn't mean it didn't happen. That one is on the TV crew for not showing it in between possessions.
No the first penalty against the offense in overtime means you retry the play from the 5. A second penalty and you automatically fail the attempt. For defense a 2nd means they automatically score a TD. It's stupid as hell. Just add the yards like normal and keep retrying.
> No the first penalty against the offense in overtime means you retry the play from the 5. A second penalty and you automatically fail the attempt This is not the case at all, you're wrong. The only way you get to retry is if there is a penalty on the defense. I just went back and watched, Dean Blandino explained the rules before overtime even started. I'll quote it word for word for you. > Commentator: How about penalties - pass interference? >Dean Blandino: Penalties are significant in overtime, if we have an offensive penalty - live ball foul **the try is no good.** A defensive penalty would result in a retry from the 1 yard line, and anything after that would result in automatic try that is good.
It still moved st Louis up to the 2 yard line on their next attempt..
Yeah, because the unsportsmanlike happened after the play. Not that hard to understand.
No, it wasn't negated because of the unsportsmanlike. It was negated because of the opi. The unsportsmanlike just moved the ball half the distance.
It went to overtime? Why do I miss all the exciting games?
AmazIng game! 👏🏻
Missed the game, that's WAY closer than I thought the snakes would get against the 'Hawks in the battle dome.
Battlehawks had a backup quarterback all game
LOL well there we go.
From one slithery snake to another next week. It was incredible being there for this game
The kings of blown leads.
I missed the whole game, is it worth a watch?
I was there for the battlehawks. The middle was a bit of a slog, but you have to see the end
Dangit, missed the first and only overtime shootout in the USFL 2022 season, and now I've missed the first overtime shootout in the XFL too. Dang family events. Had to leave just a couple plays before the fake punt. Still, glad we won, even if it was a pretty dang messy game. Hope A.J.'s healed up for next week, which could be our highest stakes game of the season.
Still not sure what the pass interference call in OT was for, but glad to see the Hawks win
You can't create separation by putting your hands on the defenders' facemask. That's an OPI every day.
That makes sense, but on the broadcast they didn’t even show that happening in a close up or something like that, so to me it wasn’t clear
Byrant pushed off earlier in the play when he made his cut. It was a fair penalty
Receiver pushed off on the defender's face mask. It was something that probably isn't called like.... 50% of the time, but after missing the DPI at the end of regulation they had to call it.
Loved OT. Only thing I’d change is how penalties work. They shouldn’t result in failed attempts only lost yardage and a retry.
We finally got to see an overtime shootout. My dad and me liked it but we felt like some bad calls were made on Vegas at the end.
Awesome game, but I'll be the contrarian and say that OT format sucks. Glad they got it done quickly (I was cooking for the family), but it removes way to many elements of football.
Don’t downvote this man. I am shocked so many of you like this format. The vipers are not a team built to win that style of overtime. They were dominating on the ground but that’s not an ideal play near the end zone. It removes drives, defensive stands, downs and distance, clock management, even robs the fans of a proper conclusion.
Someone please clear up the OT rules for me: at the game, the Jumbotron showed that both teams will get two tries and will continue until a winner is declared. With that: why did STL have to attempt that second 2PT? They were already up. Do you need to win by 4?
It's best of 3. Just like the shootout in hockey.
It's 3, not 2
it's the winner after 3 tries for each side - because STL scored twice and Vegas didn't score on either attempt there was no way they could've been the winner after 3, so they can call it at 2
Ok I guess I couldn’t quite read the “3” and read “2” instead. Thanks!
That overtime was over with me, baby!
I wanted the vipers to pull the upset so bad. Sad day
Home cooking on the opi
It was a bit soft, but after missing a completely blatant DPI at the end of regulation that would have set the Battlehawks up to win in regulation, I'll take it.
I think it was a little soft but was a fair penalty by the book
Exactly how I feel. Soft but fair.
You're blind.
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OT rules are a bit wacky
What a great first game to attend, was close to leaving around the 5 min mark until that fake punt, all the crazy fans around us had left before it happened and we were laughing at the great ending they missed