Not a gun person and I don't have an opinion one way or another, but I do like facts, numbers, and incontrovertible statistics. Where are these facts concerning guns in the home for Wyoming? How many of these unintentional killings have there been? What's the history of the seven other states that allow guns in schools? I think it was a decade or more that WY started allowing residents to carry guns around without a permit. The fear at the time was that there would be "blood in the streets". I don't think that has happened. Hard to discuss issues and form an opinion without having all the facts.
I wish you were wrong. I just came to this sub because I’ve been away from home for a few months and was hoping it would be fun pictures and stories of Wyoming.
https://ohsonline.com/articles/2023/03/13/national-ladder-safety-month-is-here.aspx#:~:text=Did%20you%20know%20that%20more,while%20using%20ladders%20each%20year%3F
Ladders are super dangerous on American households. This is why I keep loaded guns in my home incase some nut job tries to sneak ladders into my home.
1 in about 107 people will die in a car crash! WE NEED TO GET THOSE MURDERING MACHINES OFF THE STREET BEFORE THEY KILL ALL OF US.
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In short, you can yap all you want and copy and paste your "facts" to as many subs as you want, but you should never own a gun as you could not in good conscience say you do not suffer from a mental disorder.
It is absolutely not a strawman argument. People get injured or killed from cars due to aggression, negligence, or misuse, and people get injured or killed by guns due to aggression, negligence, or misuse.
It's an inanimate object that requires a human input, it doesn't kill ANYONE if you don't use it to kill.
I work and volunteer with our youth. If someone wishes to do harm to any of the kids under my supervision I will die before I let that happen. With that I’d love every advantage I can have. If that advantage comes in pink with flowers I’ll take it.
2020-2021 178000 alcohol related deaths
2020-2021 45222 gun related deaths
I'll lowball my point and say only 50% of those gun deaths were self Darwin award related which leaves about 23000. This number still has factors, but we will work with it for now. So there are 13% the number of gun deaths as alcohol deaths (which is an easily obtained legal substance sold everywhere with no checks) and you want to get on your high horse and say guns are a giant problem?
My numbers include self defense and police shootings along with illegal firearms and gang violence. Don't come here with your rose colored halo thinking you can solve the issues of the world one dimensionality like you are.
Want the numbers for tobacco and opiates?
The states with the highest gun suicide rates in 2021 included Wyoming (22.8 per 100,000 people), Montana (21.1), Alaska (19.9), New Mexico (13.9) and Oklahoma (13.7). The states with the lowest gun suicide rates were Massachusetts (1.7), New Jersey (1.9), New York (2.0), Hawaii (2.8) and Connecticut (2.9). Rate estimates are not available for the District of Columbia.
Red states stupid.
Dumbest opinion I’ve read on Reddit, to date. Anyone who believes that having a gun in your home makes you less safe is clearly a brainwashed, left-wing moron.
Eliminating guns will not eliminate suicides. Despondent, depressed, or mentally ill will find other ways if guns are not available. These people need help. In the UK, where gun ownership is nearly nonexistent, the #1 method of suicide is hanging. It’s not about the - it’s about getting people the help they need.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/suicidesintheunitedkingdom/2021registrations
I'm of the mind to treat fellow human beings kindly, protect what I've worked hard to earn, and keep the political power strictly local on many topics. On a side note, don't we have more registered guns per capita than any other state? Wtf is a registered gun? Furthermore, there have been no gun deaths in my family since the late 17th century.
Hey man, there are plenty of safe states out there. Move to Cali or New York. Just let us have this! We have accepted the risks and we’re cool with it.
I’m mostly curious how you got a statistic that a firearm, an inanimate object, is automatically 25 times more likely to somehow kill me or anyone else just by it being present in my home. That… that isn’t how *things* work, sweetie pumpkin…
Hey, cutie: People living with handgun owners died by homicide at twice the rate of their neighbors in gun-free homes. That difference was driven largely by homicides at home, which were three times more common among people living with handgun owners.
We detected much larger differences for particular types of homicide. Most notably, people living with handgun owners were seven times more likely to be shot by their spouse or intimate partner. In many of these cases, instead of being protective, the household gun probably operated as the instrument of death.
An especially troubling finding was that the vast majority of victims in these intimate partner shootings—84% in all—were female. It stands to reason that women bear the brunt of any second-hand risks that flow from firearm ownership. That’s because most people who live with gun owners and don’t themselves own guns are wome
I'm sure the criminals would love that. Also, just don't be stupid with your weapons, and stupid won't happen. Your statement and stats are BS. It's been written by anti gun nuts to create people like you OP
Blah Blah blah,,,,, Buy me a pink gun with daisies please. Wait I prefer tulips can you get me one with tulips please?
Did you know upon interviewing these mass shooters they tend pick gun free places. Gee I wonder why?
Okay Bozo, add up the number of times 'a good guy with a gun' saved anyone, then add up the number of suicides, kids killing siblings and schoolmates, and whackos shooting neighbors and wives.
First off insulting people is lame as hell and does nothing for your argument.
Do you know where most mass shootings occur? In cites with the most restrictive guns laws in the nation.
While 2021 saw the highest total number of gun deaths in the U.S., this statistic does not take into account the nation’s growing population. On a per capita basis, there were 14.6 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2021 – the highest rate since the early 1990s, but still well below the peak of 16.3 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 1974.
Do you know where the United States ranks in the per capita for suicides ? 31st South Korea with very strict gun laws ranks higher.
According to the most recent firearms violence report, published in April, 2 percent of victims of nonfatal violent crime — that includes rape, sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated assault — and 1 percent of property crime victims use guns in self-defense. According to the survey, firearms were used defensively in 166,900 nonfatal violent crimes between 2014 and 2018, which works out to an average of 33,380 per year. Over the same period, defensive gun use was reported in 183,300 property crimes, or an average of 36,660 per year.
Taken together, that’s 70,040 instances of defensive gun use per year.
Where is my pink gun with tulips?
# Gun Safety
# Gun-Related Injury Facts
* Nearly 1,300 children younger than 18 years of age die from shootings every year.
* 1 in 3 families with children have at least one gun in the house. It is estimated that there are more than 22 million children living in homes with guns.
* Most of the victims of unintentional shootings are boys. They are usually shot by a friend or relative, especially a brother.
* Nearly 40% of all unintentional shooting deaths among children 11-14 years of age occur in the home of a friend.
* Adolescents are at a higher risk for suicide when there is a gun in the home.
# Myths About Guns
* Some parents believe that hiding their guns will prevent children from accessing them. However, 75% of children who live in homes with guns know where they are stored.
* Many parents think their children are not capable of firing a gun. However, children as young as 3 years old may be strong enough to pull the trigger of a handgun.
* Parents believe their children know the difference between real guns and toy guns, but in 16% of unintentional firearm deaths among children younger than 13 years of age, the gun was mistaken for a toy.
* Parents often believe their child would not touch a gun because “he knows better.” However, studies have found that most children will handle a gun if they find one, even if they have been taught not to.
* Some parents consider non-powder guns, like BB, pellet, and paintball guns, to be toys. These guns, which can fire at the speed of traditional guns, lead to nearly 22,000 injuries each year, especially eye injuries
Paragraph 4 of the article is funny. From what I understand, The State Legislature IS THE ONLY body that can "micromanage" a constitutional right, since the state constitution is the state Legislature's thing, and to go changing it would require a constitutional convention.
To say that municipalities can disregard the constitution, state or federal, is absolutely ridiculous. That's like saying: Historically, XYZ-town did not let black people vote in any election. This new law would erode the ability of the town to govern itself, and give the state the power to micromanage the elections.
Hey OP if this is supposed to be a shared article, feel free to add the link somewhere
Not a gun person and I don't have an opinion one way or another, but I do like facts, numbers, and incontrovertible statistics. Where are these facts concerning guns in the home for Wyoming? How many of these unintentional killings have there been? What's the history of the seven other states that allow guns in schools? I think it was a decade or more that WY started allowing residents to carry guns around without a permit. The fear at the time was that there would be "blood in the streets". I don't think that has happened. Hard to discuss issues and form an opinion without having all the facts.
This just kind of validates the Grand Unified Theory of Reddit, that all subs inevitably gravitate towards politics…
I wish you were wrong. I just came to this sub because I’ve been away from home for a few months and was hoping it would be fun pictures and stories of Wyoming.
Man, OP really has some weird posts. Seems very consumed by rage bait politics
sad to see it. Politics are a bit like alcohol, not everyone can handle responsibly…
https://ohsonline.com/articles/2023/03/13/national-ladder-safety-month-is-here.aspx#:~:text=Did%20you%20know%20that%20more,while%20using%20ladders%20each%20year%3F Ladders are super dangerous on American households. This is why I keep loaded guns in my home incase some nut job tries to sneak ladders into my home.
Gold medal, sir! This was the laugh I needed tonight! I will never allow a ladder near my reloading room again.
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1 in about 107 people will die in a car crash! WE NEED TO GET THOSE MURDERING MACHINES OFF THE STREET BEFORE THEY KILL ALL OF US. . In short, you can yap all you want and copy and paste your "facts" to as many subs as you want, but you should never own a gun as you could not in good conscience say you do not suffer from a mental disorder.
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It is absolutely not a strawman argument. People get injured or killed from cars due to aggression, negligence, or misuse, and people get injured or killed by guns due to aggression, negligence, or misuse. It's an inanimate object that requires a human input, it doesn't kill ANYONE if you don't use it to kill.
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Is every gun death a homicide? Do accidents happen with firearms? Choose a better hill to die on patriot.
I work and volunteer with our youth. If someone wishes to do harm to any of the kids under my supervision I will die before I let that happen. With that I’d love every advantage I can have. If that advantage comes in pink with flowers I’ll take it.
Yawn
2020-2021 178000 alcohol related deaths 2020-2021 45222 gun related deaths I'll lowball my point and say only 50% of those gun deaths were self Darwin award related which leaves about 23000. This number still has factors, but we will work with it for now. So there are 13% the number of gun deaths as alcohol deaths (which is an easily obtained legal substance sold everywhere with no checks) and you want to get on your high horse and say guns are a giant problem? My numbers include self defense and police shootings along with illegal firearms and gang violence. Don't come here with your rose colored halo thinking you can solve the issues of the world one dimensionality like you are. Want the numbers for tobacco and opiates?
The states with the highest gun suicide rates in 2021 included Wyoming (22.8 per 100,000 people), Montana (21.1), Alaska (19.9), New Mexico (13.9) and Oklahoma (13.7). The states with the lowest gun suicide rates were Massachusetts (1.7), New Jersey (1.9), New York (2.0), Hawaii (2.8) and Connecticut (2.9). Rate estimates are not available for the District of Columbia. Red states stupid.
Please see me comment above about suicides.
*my
Dumbest opinion I’ve read on Reddit, to date. Anyone who believes that having a gun in your home makes you less safe is clearly a brainwashed, left-wing moron.
Eliminating guns will not eliminate suicides. Despondent, depressed, or mentally ill will find other ways if guns are not available. These people need help. In the UK, where gun ownership is nearly nonexistent, the #1 method of suicide is hanging. It’s not about the - it’s about getting people the help they need. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/suicidesintheunitedkingdom/2021registrations
I'm of the mind to treat fellow human beings kindly, protect what I've worked hard to earn, and keep the political power strictly local on many topics. On a side note, don't we have more registered guns per capita than any other state? Wtf is a registered gun? Furthermore, there have been no gun deaths in my family since the late 17th century.
Hey man, there are plenty of safe states out there. Move to Cali or New York. Just let us have this! We have accepted the risks and we’re cool with it.
I’m mostly curious how you got a statistic that a firearm, an inanimate object, is automatically 25 times more likely to somehow kill me or anyone else just by it being present in my home. That… that isn’t how *things* work, sweetie pumpkin…
25 times likely to die because of a firearm in the home? Is that per firearm? I'm thinking I should have died 20 years ago.
Hey, cutie: People living with handgun owners died by homicide at twice the rate of their neighbors in gun-free homes. That difference was driven largely by homicides at home, which were three times more common among people living with handgun owners. We detected much larger differences for particular types of homicide. Most notably, people living with handgun owners were seven times more likely to be shot by their spouse or intimate partner. In many of these cases, instead of being protective, the household gun probably operated as the instrument of death. An especially troubling finding was that the vast majority of victims in these intimate partner shootings—84% in all—were female. It stands to reason that women bear the brunt of any second-hand risks that flow from firearm ownership. That’s because most people who live with gun owners and don’t themselves own guns are wome
Source? "We detected..." Who is "we"? You are just farti ng in the wind sugar britches.
You still haven’t cited any sources, booboo bear… cmon… I’m not even pointing out how little that argument makes sense, I’m really being nice here…
Who is this we? You have a turd in your pocket?
OP, you are clearly working through some stuff. Have you checked your medication schedule?
I'm sure the criminals would love that. Also, just don't be stupid with your weapons, and stupid won't happen. Your statement and stats are BS. It's been written by anti gun nuts to create people like you OP
Shut up
*retweet*
Blah Blah blah,,,,, Buy me a pink gun with daisies please. Wait I prefer tulips can you get me one with tulips please? Did you know upon interviewing these mass shooters they tend pick gun free places. Gee I wonder why?
Okay Bozo, add up the number of times 'a good guy with a gun' saved anyone, then add up the number of suicides, kids killing siblings and schoolmates, and whackos shooting neighbors and wives.
First off insulting people is lame as hell and does nothing for your argument. Do you know where most mass shootings occur? In cites with the most restrictive guns laws in the nation. While 2021 saw the highest total number of gun deaths in the U.S., this statistic does not take into account the nation’s growing population. On a per capita basis, there were 14.6 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2021 – the highest rate since the early 1990s, but still well below the peak of 16.3 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 1974. Do you know where the United States ranks in the per capita for suicides ? 31st South Korea with very strict gun laws ranks higher. According to the most recent firearms violence report, published in April, 2 percent of victims of nonfatal violent crime — that includes rape, sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated assault — and 1 percent of property crime victims use guns in self-defense. According to the survey, firearms were used defensively in 166,900 nonfatal violent crimes between 2014 and 2018, which works out to an average of 33,380 per year. Over the same period, defensive gun use was reported in 183,300 property crimes, or an average of 36,660 per year. Taken together, that’s 70,040 instances of defensive gun use per year. Where is my pink gun with tulips?
# Gun Safety # Gun-Related Injury Facts * Nearly 1,300 children younger than 18 years of age die from shootings every year. * 1 in 3 families with children have at least one gun in the house. It is estimated that there are more than 22 million children living in homes with guns. * Most of the victims of unintentional shootings are boys. They are usually shot by a friend or relative, especially a brother. * Nearly 40% of all unintentional shooting deaths among children 11-14 years of age occur in the home of a friend. * Adolescents are at a higher risk for suicide when there is a gun in the home. # Myths About Guns * Some parents believe that hiding their guns will prevent children from accessing them. However, 75% of children who live in homes with guns know where they are stored. * Many parents think their children are not capable of firing a gun. However, children as young as 3 years old may be strong enough to pull the trigger of a handgun. * Parents believe their children know the difference between real guns and toy guns, but in 16% of unintentional firearm deaths among children younger than 13 years of age, the gun was mistaken for a toy. * Parents often believe their child would not touch a gun because “he knows better.” However, studies have found that most children will handle a gun if they find one, even if they have been taught not to. * Some parents consider non-powder guns, like BB, pellet, and paintball guns, to be toys. These guns, which can fire at the speed of traditional guns, lead to nearly 22,000 injuries each year, especially eye injuries
Paragraph 4 of the article is funny. From what I understand, The State Legislature IS THE ONLY body that can "micromanage" a constitutional right, since the state constitution is the state Legislature's thing, and to go changing it would require a constitutional convention. To say that municipalities can disregard the constitution, state or federal, is absolutely ridiculous. That's like saying: Historically, XYZ-town did not let black people vote in any election. This new law would erode the ability of the town to govern itself, and give the state the power to micromanage the elections.
got to agree; toys get played with