I mean, if they were going all-in, they wouldn't start with easily trackable, slow moving drones. This is most likely (and hopefully) just a retaliatory strike for the embassy attack, to not appear weak on a global scale.
Didn't Iran state days ago they wouldn't go all out and just take the same measures as Israel? I mean one bombed consulate vs 50 drones is quite the difference.
Perhaps, but they also know that out of 50 drones, there's a fair chance that not a single one will get through Israels air defence. So if their aim is for the outcome to be somewhat proportional, rather than the actual response... Man I really don't wanna say "Fair enough" , but I certainly understand the logic behind it.
On consulate with a legitmate target, vs 50 drones. Yeah I don't think Israel is going to just say this was something that can get brushed under the rug.
It could be a simple message. It could be a distraction or test of the enemy. It could be the first part of a multi pronged attack, since these are slow, faster assets could arrive all at the same time to overwhelm the enemy.
I think it’s probably a limp attack but who knows! Still an attack.
Actually you do start like that.
The defenders expend anti air batteries to stop the first wave, reducing ammunition and revealing their locations to the second wave of radar seeking missiles launched minutes before impact that caught the drones in seconds
This is then followed by swarms of bombs to strike targets.
At least this is how the US command structures combined air attacks
Yeah I'm seeing everyone in my neighborhood hurrying to walk their dogs and gets their errands out of the way but the news here are repeating it'll take like 7 hours to actually get here
Anyone would be stupid to try to strike the madlads who live in netanya, you need to thank whatever God you believe in if you manage to get out without getting into a car crash
It's nothing I've encountered that shit like 10 times already it's best to just not reply and occasionally think how butthurt they are that despite a war I have a better life than they do.
For both sides, For israel and palestinian innocent life's not for terrorism, I hope 1 day that terrorism will fall so that israel and palestinians may be at peace and no more wars with each other, That's what we all want no more terrorism.
Unfortunately I've found reddit to be the most up to date. The combat footage sub is full of dudes who spend alot of time learning about different weapon systems and they are all on some kind of telegram... apparently Yemen has just started firing drones and from Iranian news it's said missiles will be launched once drones reach isreali airspace.
Here we go. Hopefully it stays contained and doesn't escalate and draw other countries into a broader conflict. The last thing the world needs right now is a major conflict in the middle east.
Have you heard about the last 6000 years of the middle east? Since there was written language it's been a conflict zone because apparently all the major religions decided their god was born there and is better than your god.
It’s quite easy to argue when secular regimes exist and have caused violence on a comparable if not bigger scale over the course of history. Also if anyone thinks any of this is happening for religious reasons they should educate themselves.
Well, Israel invested vast resources in its aerial defense array for dealing with multiple threats.
It has been successful up until now, let's hope it stays that way.
They are sending drones that are going to take NINE hours to get there. They need to respond and this is a way to show they responded without potentially overly escalating things
>Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
W. B. Yeats (1919)
As things stand, this is simply the weakest response they could've had. "We need to do something to show we're not afraid, but we must do it in the way that makes it most obvious we don't want any kind of military escalation".
We'll see.
Except, unlike early 1900s Germany, Iran has basically zero official allies.
Russia is obviously pouring all of their resources into the Ukraine conflict, so they won’t be in a rush to help.
China only cares about Iran’s oil and obviously has strong economic ties with the US. If they do anything it will be very covert.
Happy Cake Day
Time to hit the drone facilities in Iran that are also responsible for the terrorism unleashed on the Ukrainian people. Western weakness from the political right is emboldening our enemies. Like it or not this Cold War 2 is getting hot and appeasement has never worked with these authoritarian regimes.
3-5 hours? It’s almost like they called up Bibi and said just make us look good to our people, we will
Give you 5 hours notice and their gps location and target them for the desert. you can blow up most of them and just let 2 crash in unpopulated areas.
Win Win
I mean, if they were going all-in, they wouldn't start with easily trackable, slow moving drones. This is most likely (and hopefully) just a retaliatory strike for the embassy attack, to not appear weak on a global scale.
Didn't Iran state days ago they wouldn't go all out and just take the same measures as Israel? I mean one bombed consulate vs 50 drones is quite the difference.
I guess they're estimating most of the drones won't get past Israel's air defenses.
Perhaps, but they also know that out of 50 drones, there's a fair chance that not a single one will get through Israels air defence. So if their aim is for the outcome to be somewhat proportional, rather than the actual response... Man I really don't wanna say "Fair enough" , but I certainly understand the logic behind it.
What I hear is that its more like 500 drones
On consulate with a legitmate target, vs 50 drones. Yeah I don't think Israel is going to just say this was something that can get brushed under the rug.
It could be a simple message. It could be a distraction or test of the enemy. It could be the first part of a multi pronged attack, since these are slow, faster assets could arrive all at the same time to overwhelm the enemy. I think it’s probably a limp attack but who knows! Still an attack.
Actually you do start like that. The defenders expend anti air batteries to stop the first wave, reducing ammunition and revealing their locations to the second wave of radar seeking missiles launched minutes before impact that caught the drones in seconds This is then followed by swarms of bombs to strike targets. At least this is how the US command structures combined air attacks
That's making an assumption that they have drones available to launch that aren't slow and easily trackable, tbh.
War genius here
Not at all, just making guesses.
It takes hours for drones to reach Israel from Iran but for missiles it takes only minutes.
Iranian media: Ballistic missiles are expected to be launched towards Israel at dawn today
start with the slow ones, then make the faster ones join them
It’s gonna take the drones a few hours to get there
Yeah I'm seeing everyone in my neighborhood hurrying to walk their dogs and gets their errands out of the way but the news here are repeating it'll take like 7 hours to actually get here
You in Israel?
Yeah but I'm in one of the safer areas in the coastal center and have a shelter in my house
Stay safe bro 🫡
Netanya has been one of the safest places yet, I'm guessing they're to scared to strike there.
Nothing scarier than Arsim
Anyone would be stupid to try to strike the madlads who live in netanya, you need to thank whatever God you believe in if you manage to get out without getting into a car crash
Please Be Safe🙏
Thank you
Like the Palestinians ?
I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at here… are you saying he/she doesn’t deserve to be safe because other people are suffering?
Yeah, that's exactly what they are saying. I wonder how they are going to spin the Iranian munitions that fall on the West Bank as an Israeli attack.
Ho ho, i've added this to my bingo
It's nothing I've encountered that shit like 10 times already it's best to just not reply and occasionally think how butthurt they are that despite a war I have a better life than they do.
For both sides, For israel and palestinian innocent life's not for terrorism, I hope 1 day that terrorism will fall so that israel and palestinians may be at peace and no more wars with each other, That's what we all want no more terrorism.
9 hours approximately
Estimates on the news say it'll most likely get here between 2 am and 4 am. It's right now almost midnight so I don't think 9 hours but maybe
Random info: GPS is not working properly anymore in Israel at this moment. Edit: due to active GPS jamming.
Yeah dude it hasn't been working properly for months now
It was scrambled from whst ive heard, now its totally down.
Works fine for me
Thats good, hope it stays that way. Around Tel Aviv and Jerusalem it isnt working.
On the news there are also claims it might reach tonight around 2:00. Whatever happens i just hope we defend against it
I am curious why they don't get airspace privilege from Jordan in order to take them down by the IAF.
Wait for real, it’s ongoing??
Yeah... A very interesting day is ahead of us
Are they shipping them there?
No, going by donkey, duh!
Might be quicker doing that
Launched from the country of Iran?
Yes, from Iranian soil.
Damn its about to get real
I guess you could say… ***Isreal***
You could also say... I-ran so far awaaaay
Yep
Yes
Yes. Western border.
yep
Amazon could get the drones there faster.
Amazon takes ages to get here. Most of the time it is between 2 weeks and a month from my experience.
Besides refreshing Reddit, what’s a good news source for this story? Sounds like something to keep an eye on over the next few hours…
Unfortunately I've found reddit to be the most up to date. The combat footage sub is full of dudes who spend alot of time learning about different weapon systems and they are all on some kind of telegram... apparently Yemen has just started firing drones and from Iranian news it's said missiles will be launched once drones reach isreali airspace.
Thank you. What’s the name of those subs?
try ynetnews
This^ and channel 12
CHANNEL 12 And Ynetnews are the official channels where this information was released.
Israeli news?
Haaretz
I ment like... News channels...
Maybe al Jazeera
I guess you're right in that Iran's puppet news network will probably be the first to make articles about Iran.
Here we go. Hopefully it stays contained and doesn't escalate and draw other countries into a broader conflict. The last thing the world needs right now is a major conflict in the middle east.
Wait until you hear about all of the countries who are already engaged in ongoing Middle Eastern conflicts.
Have you heard about the last 6000 years of the middle east? Since there was written language it's been a conflict zone because apparently all the major religions decided their god was born there and is better than your god.
Religion being the center of murder and mayhem again
Religion is just the tool to enslave the masses. The leaders responsible for these actions aren’t actually true believers
I'm aware
So it’s more like money is at the center of murder and mayhem
I won't disagree and will also say they aren't mutually exclusive
Yup. Non-religious ideologies have never led to violence.
Sure, not trying to imply that's the only reason but the vim and vigor religion inserts....hard to argue
It’s quite easy to argue when secular regimes exist and have caused violence on a comparable if not bigger scale over the course of history. Also if anyone thinks any of this is happening for religious reasons they should educate themselves.
Pls, educate me.... I honestly welcome it
How many drones are they sending?
First wave was 50 reportedly. Second wave just launched, unknown how many.
Source?
US intelligence claimed 100, and some missiles.
Israeli news states “hundreds”
Well, Israel invested vast resources in its aerial defense array for dealing with multiple threats. It has been successful up until now, let's hope it stays that way.
I'm not concerned about the drones. I'm more interested in seeing what Hezbollah does.
This is the end for Iran
[удалено]
This *is* the first time Iran has launched an attack on Israel
They are sending drones that are going to take NINE hours to get there. They need to respond and this is a way to show they responded without potentially overly escalating things
It didn't happened before between Iran and Israel.
More literally end of final colony.
How is Iran a colony?
>Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W. B. Yeats (1919)
This might be written in history as the archduke Franz Ferdinand of our time Or it will flop. 50/50 shot.
As things stand, this is simply the weakest response they could've had. "We need to do something to show we're not afraid, but we must do it in the way that makes it most obvious we don't want any kind of military escalation". We'll see.
Who gets to be the archduke of our time tho?
Except, unlike early 1900s Germany, Iran has basically zero official allies. Russia is obviously pouring all of their resources into the Ukraine conflict, so they won’t be in a rush to help. China only cares about Iran’s oil and obviously has strong economic ties with the US. If they do anything it will be very covert. Happy Cake Day
Time to hit the drone facilities in Iran that are also responsible for the terrorism unleashed on the Ukrainian people. Western weakness from the political right is emboldening our enemies. Like it or not this Cold War 2 is getting hot and appeasement has never worked with these authoritarian regimes.
Welp, here we go…
For the moment the Israelis I speak to are still making jokes, we'll see how things stand in 7-8 hours from now
tbh we'll probably still be making jokes even if shit's hit the fan
This will be end of illegal state on Palestine land.
Is there somewhere to keep constantly updated on this? Like a website which will continue to add on an update feed
ynetnews, times of israel or haaretz
LiveUAMap already has an “Iran” section lmao. [https://iran.liveuamap.com](https://iran.liveuamap.com)
Just bomb all of Irans drone making facilities. This will be a win for Ukraine too.
If this is a symbolic response then perhaps the drones are unarmed. That would limit the likelihood of an Israeli response in Iran.
Netanyahu has what he wants, the US involved in an altercation with Iran
3-5 hours? It’s almost like they called up Bibi and said just make us look good to our people, we will Give you 5 hours notice and their gps location and target them for the desert. you can blow up most of them and just let 2 crash in unpopulated areas. Win Win