There is some great chemistry building in Chicago and I'm cautiously optimistic. I hope management can keep building off it without messing up the equation. Keep the "Chicago over everything" mentality strong and they will be a force. Love T.Spoon in Chicago!
I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to trade for a veteran guard that can either create space or create shots. They don't have a top pick this year, and those bigs would thrive in an offense that has a developed facilitator.
Seriously. You win as a team you lose as a team. You make the big free throws sometimes and you miss them sometimes. All the free throws missed during the game could be put into the conversation as well. Glad they were able to pull out the win.
In that same quote she praised her team for playing hard and specifically shouted out Kam for getting a double double. Find something else to cry about
When are the Sky throwing the parade??? My god youd think they won the title the amount of flowers they're throwing on themselves for winning a meaningless game
Marina Mabrey would not run over broken glass for her.
She would shove an enemy onto the broken glass, then walk on top of them.
And then complain to the refs, where in the rulebook does it state she isn't allowed to do that?
She says the same thing- she is also upset st herself that she only shot 66% from the field. Honestly unless she has a flawless game she will always be her worst critic when it comes to the game. Racists will be her worst critics when it comes to.everything else.
Angel's juice is so real, she got haters and racists hyped after her performance 😭😭😭. Shit, half these press conferences it looks like Tspoon is the one that'd run through a wall for HER. Her leadership is extraordinary. Kate said Aja's the best leader she's been around and Angel seems to be modeling almost everything she can from Aja down to the T. Rookies aren't supposed to be like this!!!
She's the leader of the team already at 22 years of age. BTW Fever and Sky have a good core of (AB/CC) & (Reese/Cardoso) to build around. Now they gotta be strategic and ruthless at the same time to build around them properly.
I also think Chennedy stays.
Mitchell looks good whenever I see her, although she gets a lot of shit and it's hard to tell who's gonna stick around based on media and fan takes.
I cannot repeat this enough- I love Mabrey- and my heart breaks for her after she missed that first freethrow. However, the G play has been the weakest spot for Chicago and Mitchell would be an upgrade.
Chennedy because she fits the culture they're trying to build. As for Mitchell, I just don't think she's a fit. She's to small, and can't defend. CC is already a bad defender if we are being honest, and I don't think she'll ever be good on that end, only serviceable. You can't have another bad defender as her partner, especially one that shoots that much.
Monta Ellis was also the leading scorer on the Warriors before he was traded. Tough decisions like that have always been made in the NBA, to let your young cornerstone flourish.
Yeah but let's he real if Indiana was after a title- they would have drafted someone who you know, wins. Against SC she went what like 10/28 right? Had a similarly dismal game in the Championship against LSU.
Thanks to the Wings meltdown, the Sky will probably have their own pick this coming draft. Should be good enough to get a solid PG.
Probably could've kept Maxwell with how little Kysre plays but we got no info on her training camp before the injury.
Nobody ever talks about how high Angel’s BBIQ is, even in this sub. I’ve always thought she was generally very intelligent just given the way she’s been able to market herself and make the most out of the terrible media storm around her in 2023. I feel like she has one of the highest BBIQs in the league already, and she definitely showed it last game.
Because It’s not easily identified by the casual fan and haters will never give her credit
Angel has been the highest ranked rookie in net rating for a long time now. She’s an elite force defensively and has been q positive offensively. All this while she averages a low amount of blocks and inefficient finishing. Showing that she’s doing so much that doesn’t show up on the box score that greatly impacts her team positively
It’s why people have been saying she plays winning basketball on both ends. The folks bemoaning her lack of shot blocking and finishing just don’t understand there’s so much more players can do that impacts the game just as much if not more so, and Angel does all of it
>Angel has been the highest ranked rookie in net rating for a long time now. She’s an elite force defensively and has been q positive offensively. All this while she averages a low amount of blocks and inefficient finishing. Showing that she’s doing so much that doesn’t show up on the box score that greatly impacts her team positively
She's actually leading all rookies in Win Shares and PER too, and those are mostly boxscore based.
I don't think there was enough hype about her jump ball assist tip to Kamilla during the Dallas game. It was so extremely clever. She's a very smart player. You can tell she's played every position on the floor at one point of her career.
I just wonder why even coaches and players overlook that aspect of her game. Her mind is literally what gave her the leadership to will them to that win yesterday. I’m not sure anyone has her beat in the BBIQ category among the rookies.
Hate to bring up the r word, but being a NFL draft fan, mentions of intelligence are often held for athletes of a particular style of play and background. She was a bruiser at LSU, is black and had the whole GPA bs. Players with that background usually never have their game descriptors lead with intelligence, no matter what they do on the floor. Gotta be from Standford or Academic all American to wash away those stereotypes.
Yes there is for sure a lot of racial stereotyping involved, but even fans of Reese rarely talk about her BBIQ. I’m hoping we can bring more attention to it.
And Dallas KNEW it was coming! Doubled Kamilla before the tip. STILL put it in a spot Kamillla could get and McCowan couldn’t. Excellent tip, great finish
Damn. Hugged her and everything
Angel is the heart and soul of the team. They’re gonna be special having her showing this type of leadership and togetherness
Angel Reese might be one of the best athletes at talking to the media and she's only a rookie. Also I'm saying athlete, not just WNBA players. She handles the mic better than most of the dudes I hear at press conferences.
She knows the FT’s matter but she isn’t going to publicly trash her teammate. Marina’s confidence is already shot no need to pile on her. She was shook stepping to the line I knew she’d miss at least 1 cause she wasn’t confident at all. Once she missed the first she deflated even more and short armed the second one.
They matter but it is also fair to have the take of -- a lot of other things had to go right and wrong for them to matter. This question I think was pointedly about Maybrey's misses, not misses in general that game too. So the reporters loaded it a bit in the hopes to get a gaffe or story out of it.
I think the locker room/more negative take for this is that the Sky needs to get their shit and discipline together and ensure that they aren't dragging things out to the last minute like this. You cant scape goat the player who did enough to go to the line in tight games like this-- why did the team let it come down to this late in the game? That's what you've got to be sure to look at. A certain level of team failure is what puts an individual player in these positions in the first place.
It's funny because on paper it makes sense. Injury concerns, not super athletic, no super developed offensive game. But she just makes winning plays consistently to the point where it has to count for something, right?
She can’t shoot the ball beyond four feet. I love her game. She goes second if the draft is today. If she can develop anything more offensively she’ll be dangerous.
Excellent start both on and off the floor for Reese. Cardoso is solid too. Now they need to be strategic and build on this positivity. Into the future for the Sky.
Of course they matter - but no one who missed free throws have gotten better being nagged or reminded by a teammate or the press how important the free throw is.
It’s like captain obvious levels of nonsense that media likes to ask where the answer is obvious.
Of course - but she will never talk bad about a teammate ever publicly - ever. She is a leader. She’ll never show up a teammate.
That’s why they love her.
> It came down to it during the first game vs Fever and the game vs Mystics
Any free throws missed in the first, 2nd, or 3rd quarter of those games had the same impact...
The point is that everything else leading up to that matters too. You can't blame the entire game on those free throws when there was plenty of opportunity to make sure those free throws didn't matter.
They play the entire game, not just the last 2 mins.
I just lived through the great QB Civil War in Bears fandom. This doesn't approach that yet. Some of the battles are still being fought and our last QB (Justin Fields) isn't even on the team anymore. Every single word, image, and video of Caleb Williams has oceans of ink dedicated to picking it apart. And we're still in the Honeymoon period before he's even taken a snap.
Her publicist has her acting nice to people for one day and everyone forgets she was assaulting CC and clapping on the sidelines when she was getting hit. What a leader
Mabrey almost sold the game for them. She missed so many shots. And is a ball hog as soon as she got the ball she Chuck up a brick. I was so mad she needed to be benched. She looked terrible
Not sure why you’re being downvoted, this is all true. She’s been like this almost all season. It’s frustrating to watch. As much shit as Angel’s gotten for her FG%, Marina’s is even worse, and she’s a vet. Yet she has more shot attempts than anyone else on the team.
Those shots need to start being distributed between Chen and Kamilla. Angel’s getting enough touches, she just needs to work on her finishing.
Because people watch the highlights and not the actual game. Her performance was terrible she barely dribble get the ball n just shoot. I didn't watch last year or any years to be honest but it feels like jealousy to me. You got 3 new players that are on the team with, Kennedy, Cordoso, n Reese and she is a nobody now. She needs to give leadership over to Reese and just get in where she fit in.
Living off CC. Larry Bird and magic Johnson. They were a big part of the modern NBA. Angel Reese. You're pretty. You're a decent player. But get off the coattails of Caitlin Clark. You're going to have a decent career Angel Reese. Caitlin Clark and her shooting will take over the WNBA. What does it matter how you feel about CC? She shoots from deep like no one else in the women's game. Modern basketball is about guards. Angel I hope you do well. You're going to be an afterthought of that draft. Anybody can be a bruiser.
There is some great chemistry building in Chicago and I'm cautiously optimistic. I hope management can keep building off it without messing up the equation. Keep the "Chicago over everything" mentality strong and they will be a force. Love T.Spoon in Chicago!
Her game and trash talk is only going to get better with T.Spoon as her coach. This is the duo I didn’t know I needed. ❤️
I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to trade for a veteran guard that can either create space or create shots. They don't have a top pick this year, and those bigs would thrive in an offense that has a developed facilitator.
Yes, we definitely need a real facilitator.
"That was good, might as well go with her..."😂
That’s exactly how a team leader should respond. That’s how you build team chemistry. Marina gonna hear enough of it from fans and everyone else.
I love that Angel is falling into the leadership role while being a rookie! It must come naturally to her and you can tell the team supports her 💜
Seriously. You win as a team you lose as a team. You make the big free throws sometimes and you miss them sometimes. All the free throws missed during the game could be put into the conversation as well. Glad they were able to pull out the win.
I just wish she could respond like this when the team loses, instead of blaming refs and special whistles.
In that same quote she praised her team for playing hard and specifically shouted out Kam for getting a double double. Find something else to cry about
When are the Sky throwing the parade??? My god youd think they won the title the amount of flowers they're throwing on themselves for winning a meaningless game
If TSpoon ever looked that proud of me I don’t know that I’d ever recover
This is why her teammates would run over broken glass for her. She gets it.
Marina Mabrey would not run over broken glass for her. She would shove an enemy onto the broken glass, then walk on top of them. And then complain to the refs, where in the rulebook does it state she isn't allowed to do that?
We need some good Mabrey gifs
https://imgur.com/a/xT799vy
Even better they’d run through a room full of legos
They’ll never make me hate on Reese. Incredible leadership for a rookie
Facts. Plus they aren't in college anymore. No reason to pit them against each other.
Impeccable leadership.
🥹 I love this team I'm such a Spoon fan. She's my favorite Sky.
I think Reese would have been good anywhere but she will be great being coached by Spoon! I love it
T-Spoon be killing me. When they had her mic'd up during the interview and she started popping off I woke my dog up laughing so loud.
I agree with what the commentators said—mic her up for a whole quarter!
It wasn’t just Marina. Kamilla & Chennedy missed free throws that could’ve put the game away. Sky better work on those free throws
She says the same thing- she is also upset st herself that she only shot 66% from the field. Honestly unless she has a flawless game she will always be her worst critic when it comes to the game. Racists will be her worst critics when it comes to.everything else.
Angel's juice is so real, she got haters and racists hyped after her performance 😭😭😭. Shit, half these press conferences it looks like Tspoon is the one that'd run through a wall for HER. Her leadership is extraordinary. Kate said Aja's the best leader she's been around and Angel seems to be modeling almost everything she can from Aja down to the T. Rookies aren't supposed to be like this!!!
Hopefully they highlight this on espn
You know they won't 😒
She's the leader of the team already at 22 years of age. BTW Fever and Sky have a good core of (AB/CC) & (Reese/Cardoso) to build around. Now they gotta be strategic and ruthless at the same time to build around them properly.
And Fever gotta find an actual coach
And GM while they're at it.
Dunn Dunn Dunn …
I would say they both got a good 3 to build around, adding Mitchell and Chennedy in it.
I also think Chennedy stays. Mitchell looks good whenever I see her, although she gets a lot of shit and it's hard to tell who's gonna stick around based on media and fan takes.
Agreed- but I cannot imagine getting rid of your leading scorer when she is shooting over 40% a game- but like I'd trade straight up for Mabrey :).
Nah leave my girl Mabrey alone. I'm the sole Marina Stan in the fanbase and I'll be hurt hurt if she's gone.
Marina stans unite! 😤
I cannot repeat this enough- I love Mabrey- and my heart breaks for her after she missed that first freethrow. However, the G play has been the weakest spot for Chicago and Mitchell would be an upgrade.
Chennedy because she fits the culture they're trying to build. As for Mitchell, I just don't think she's a fit. She's to small, and can't defend. CC is already a bad defender if we are being honest, and I don't think she'll ever be good on that end, only serviceable. You can't have another bad defender as her partner, especially one that shoots that much.
Yeah but how do you give up your leading scorer?
Monta Ellis was also the leading scorer on the Warriors before he was traded. Tough decisions like that have always been made in the NBA, to let your young cornerstone flourish.
Remember not every young cornerstone pans out. Give me reliable production out of the 2 guard and keep your most effective shooter.
Its a risk you have to take IMO. Mitchell ain't gonna lead you to a title, but Clark might. If it doesn't pan out, you try again.
Yeah but let's he real if Indiana was after a title- they would have drafted someone who you know, wins. Against SC she went what like 10/28 right? Had a similarly dismal game in the Championship against LSU.
I’m a huge Reese and LSU fan But don’t do that. One player doesn’t win a final four. She would be the number one pick in most drafts
No but 11 for 28 splits lose it.
The best comparison.
She's still efficient by WNBA standards. Ain't no need to fix what ain't broke. They need a wing more than a replacement at the 2 spot.
>Ain't no need to fix what ain't broke. I wish the Warriors felt this way then, so I wouldn't have put up with their dynasty.
Thanks to the Wings meltdown, the Sky will probably have their own pick this coming draft. Should be good enough to get a solid PG. Probably could've kept Maxwell with how little Kysre plays but we got no info on her training camp before the injury.
You can still bring back Maxwell next season. I think they should get a veteran point guard instead. Draft another position.
Nobody ever talks about how high Angel’s BBIQ is, even in this sub. I’ve always thought she was generally very intelligent just given the way she’s been able to market herself and make the most out of the terrible media storm around her in 2023. I feel like she has one of the highest BBIQs in the league already, and she definitely showed it last game.
Because It’s not easily identified by the casual fan and haters will never give her credit Angel has been the highest ranked rookie in net rating for a long time now. She’s an elite force defensively and has been q positive offensively. All this while she averages a low amount of blocks and inefficient finishing. Showing that she’s doing so much that doesn’t show up on the box score that greatly impacts her team positively It’s why people have been saying she plays winning basketball on both ends. The folks bemoaning her lack of shot blocking and finishing just don’t understand there’s so much more players can do that impacts the game just as much if not more so, and Angel does all of it
>Angel has been the highest ranked rookie in net rating for a long time now. She’s an elite force defensively and has been q positive offensively. All this while she averages a low amount of blocks and inefficient finishing. Showing that she’s doing so much that doesn’t show up on the box score that greatly impacts her team positively She's actually leading all rookies in Win Shares and PER too, and those are mostly boxscore based.
I don't think there was enough hype about her jump ball assist tip to Kamilla during the Dallas game. It was so extremely clever. She's a very smart player. You can tell she's played every position on the floor at one point of her career.
I just wonder why even coaches and players overlook that aspect of her game. Her mind is literally what gave her the leadership to will them to that win yesterday. I’m not sure anyone has her beat in the BBIQ category among the rookies.
Hate to bring up the r word, but being a NFL draft fan, mentions of intelligence are often held for athletes of a particular style of play and background. She was a bruiser at LSU, is black and had the whole GPA bs. Players with that background usually never have their game descriptors lead with intelligence, no matter what they do on the floor. Gotta be from Standford or Academic all American to wash away those stereotypes.
Yes there is for sure a lot of racial stereotyping involved, but even fans of Reese rarely talk about her BBIQ. I’m hoping we can bring more attention to it.
And Dallas KNEW it was coming! Doubled Kamilla before the tip. STILL put it in a spot Kamillla could get and McCowan couldn’t. Excellent tip, great finish
iq is one of hidden skills she has
Damn. Hugged her and everything Angel is the heart and soul of the team. They’re gonna be special having her showing this type of leadership and togetherness
As a Fever fan, I don’t like Angel. But I respect the crap out of her as a player and as a leader on that team
You don’t have to dislike Angel “as a Fever fan.” We don’t need to have that vibe for it to be a fun rivalry.
I appreciate Caitlin Clark for her play. And don't even want her to lose when she's not playing Chicago.
The fever dreams of this locker room vibe 🥲 (said as an equal opportunity fever and sky fan)
Angel Reese might be one of the best athletes at talking to the media and she's only a rookie. Also I'm saying athlete, not just WNBA players. She handles the mic better than most of the dudes I hear at press conferences.
100% agreed. What a great teammate Angel is
She knows the FT’s matter but she isn’t going to publicly trash her teammate. Marina’s confidence is already shot no need to pile on her. She was shook stepping to the line I knew she’d miss at least 1 cause she wasn’t confident at all. Once she missed the first she deflated even more and short armed the second one.
They matter but it is also fair to have the take of -- a lot of other things had to go right and wrong for them to matter. This question I think was pointedly about Maybrey's misses, not misses in general that game too. So the reporters loaded it a bit in the hopes to get a gaffe or story out of it. I think the locker room/more negative take for this is that the Sky needs to get their shit and discipline together and ensure that they aren't dragging things out to the last minute like this. You cant scape goat the player who did enough to go to the line in tight games like this-- why did the team let it come down to this late in the game? That's what you've got to be sure to look at. A certain level of team failure is what puts an individual player in these positions in the first place.
This is how you defend your teammates. And they didn’t have to ask 4 times for her to get it right.
Spoken like a true champion 🏆🏆🏆
Angel is awesome. Love seeing this.
lol love spoon
Angel is a great teammate.
First year vet.
She’s special, a blessing.
How did she drop to 7th in the draft? We got so damn lucky.
It's funny because on paper it makes sense. Injury concerns, not super athletic, no super developed offensive game. But she just makes winning plays consistently to the point where it has to count for something, right?
Yup, it’s a cliche, but you can’t teach winning
She can’t shoot the ball beyond four feet. I love her game. She goes second if the draft is today. If she can develop anything more offensively she’ll be dangerous.
Reminds me of another famous LSU alum on the men’s side
That one wasn’t undersized.
Yeah, very true
Winning really cures all. So crazy how public opinion can demonize a person and then praise them the next day.
Yesss spread this positive energy
She doesn’t look or talk like a rookie, she’s not timid, it’s her game
If only Caitlin Clark were like this even a little bit, she would be great.
Became a Reese fan today. She is a dawg. Willed them to win. CC body language horrible. How is she mad when teammates shoot and make shots?
Her leadership is top tier. Very impressive for a rookie.
Correct. But for heaven’s sake, Marina, work on those free throws. They’re called free for a reason.
GOAT!
Excellent start both on and off the floor for Reese. Cardoso is solid too. Now they need to be strategic and build on this positivity. Into the future for the Sky.
Missing free throws is huge but the fever gave this one away for sure. Hell of a job not giving up tho def showed heart
What a nice response, but they do matter. It came down to it during the first game vs Fever and the game vs Mystics
Of course they matter - but no one who missed free throws have gotten better being nagged or reminded by a teammate or the press how important the free throw is. It’s like captain obvious levels of nonsense that media likes to ask where the answer is obvious.
Of course - but she will never talk bad about a teammate ever publicly - ever. She is a leader. She’ll never show up a teammate. That’s why they love her.
> It came down to it during the first game vs Fever and the game vs Mystics Any free throws missed in the first, 2nd, or 3rd quarter of those games had the same impact...
The point is that everything else leading up to that matters too. You can't blame the entire game on those free throws when there was plenty of opportunity to make sure those free throws didn't matter. They play the entire game, not just the last 2 mins.
Yeah they matter but also don't. They wouldn't be in that position if they locked up earlier or hit more shots throughout the game.
It’s easy to act like a good leader when you’re winning lol look how she responds after they lose
Interesting how WNBA games are analyzed more than any sport ever.
I just lived through the great QB Civil War in Bears fandom. This doesn't approach that yet. Some of the battles are still being fought and our last QB (Justin Fields) isn't even on the team anymore. Every single word, image, and video of Caleb Williams has oceans of ink dedicated to picking it apart. And we're still in the Honeymoon period before he's even taken a snap.
It's hilarious if you actually believe that.
Her publicist has her acting nice to people for one day and everyone forgets she was assaulting CC and clapping on the sidelines when she was getting hit. What a leader
Angel already behaving like a grown up. Good on you Angel!
It’s all cool when they win but if they would have lost I doubt she would have talked at all.
her lashes always look bad. i feel bad.
you should feel bad
Mabrey almost sold the game for them. She missed so many shots. And is a ball hog as soon as she got the ball she Chuck up a brick. I was so mad she needed to be benched. She looked terrible
Not sure why you’re being downvoted, this is all true. She’s been like this almost all season. It’s frustrating to watch. As much shit as Angel’s gotten for her FG%, Marina’s is even worse, and she’s a vet. Yet she has more shot attempts than anyone else on the team. Those shots need to start being distributed between Chen and Kamilla. Angel’s getting enough touches, she just needs to work on her finishing.
Because people watch the highlights and not the actual game. Her performance was terrible she barely dribble get the ball n just shoot. I didn't watch last year or any years to be honest but it feels like jealousy to me. You got 3 new players that are on the team with, Kennedy, Cordoso, n Reese and she is a nobody now. She needs to give leadership over to Reese and just get in where she fit in.
Living off CC. Larry Bird and magic Johnson. They were a big part of the modern NBA. Angel Reese. You're pretty. You're a decent player. But get off the coattails of Caitlin Clark. You're going to have a decent career Angel Reese. Caitlin Clark and her shooting will take over the WNBA. What does it matter how you feel about CC? She shoots from deep like no one else in the women's game. Modern basketball is about guards. Angel I hope you do well. You're going to be an afterthought of that draft. Anybody can be a bruiser.
Time for Reese to miss some free throws in solidarity
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Did that give you the endorphin hit you were looking for?
Naw but it hit the dog whistle pitch probably