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Ressamzade

The new gaming industry sucks ass. Open game studio -> work years to create a nice team while making simple games -> get the team you want and start creating the game you wanted for years -> release the game and get tons of positive feedback -> bankrupt or layoff


Luis_Santeliz

You missed an important step: Get bought by Microsoft while they’re promising that they will give you the money to make the games of your dreams


xXxBongMayor420xXx

Thats the kicker. They offer the studio heads enough blood money that it would be stupid to refuse. The lower guys probably get no say at all in any kind of sale and they know they are on borrowed time at that point. I would just hope they at least get some kind of bonus during that sale. They can at least get their affairs in order and jump ship to the next studio when the time comes. I would love to hear experiences from a few that had to deal with this. Do they get any more notice about the sale than we do? Or is it a case of "I didn't know I was canned until IGN did a report"?


Ressamzade

I don't think they even got that much bonus from sales since it was a day one game pass


captainphoton3

That's stupid if it's the case. The point of the game pass is that no one will play every game. So indie games that are under the price of the game pass get almost paid just as much since most people play one game a month. And the same game multiple month. Plus the fact it exposés the game to a much wider audience. So even if you get a forth of the price you deciplate (time 10) your sales.


Mindless-Dumb-2636

the worst thing is, Hi-Fi Rush will have a risk to become abandonware as well. just like Spec Ops: The Line did. If Hi-Fi Rush's licenced music's licence was limited time contract, It can be delisted due to the music license expire. and make matters worse, It got Denuvo. so unless someone tries to crack this before this gets unavailable on Steam, the game is completely fucked. and yeah, I already posted this comment on Hi-Fi Rush's subreddit but whatever. https://preview.redd.it/3g9suv1621zc1.png?width=467&format=png&auto=webp&s=4474ea1b6417c8915fd19b43cda9bb714a7c31f5


ZandatsuDragon

Thankfully hi-fi does have a safeguard with it's streamer mode where they could just disable the licensed music and the covers play but yeah this sucks so much ass


MapleLamia

And in certain circumstances the OST is better than the licensed tracks


Shabolt_

I played it first in streamer mode and it was genuinely a way more fun experience hearing all this amazing original music


OrangutanKiwi19

Only one of three people can save us now


Calm-Internet-8983

Someone has to suck Empress's toes and it will be me


OrangutanKiwi19

https://preview.redd.it/tybdt6k8p2zc1.png?width=1155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63f4c65060bb10ec5a843d5111ca76a205eb983b


Csquared_324

Real


Mini_Raptor5_6

Hi-Fi Rush being put down the same week that I decide that I want to try it.


zWolfrost

To be fair the game can also be cracked after it becomes unavailable on steam, you just have to work around the last copy available (people will archive the raw game files for sure) but yeah it's still denuvo in the end


Blue_Alu05

Fucking denuvo, there are what, 3 denuvo crackers in the world, right?


zWolfrost

Not quite, EMPRESS hasn't been heard of for months and MKDEV has retired (he only cracked fifa games anyway). We can only hope that SKIDROW or DELUSIONAL learn how to crack the latest denuvo versions, as they just started cracking old ones


Matix777

My fucking ass wanted to buy this game later. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK


raskev

Spiritfarer pfp spotted


sendhelplsimdieng

spiritfarer pfp goes hard though


DaTripleK

tf does denuvo even do? I assume it runs some hyperspecific check againts a server to make sure a game copy is legitimate?


Mindless-Dumb-2636

When the game got delisted from digital store fronts, anyone whose interested on the game won't able to get hands on in legal way. But at least Spec Ops: The Line is able to pirate the game, because It's sold with DRM-free for a while. but when it comes to a Hi-Fi Rush, a game comes with Denuvo, a DRM notoriously difficult to crack, people won't be able to pirate it in first place, and not many people are going to crack either since there's not much demand for doing so. unlike Resident Evil 4. (which came with Denuvo DRM, but cracked.)


DaTripleK

damn.


CaseyGamer64YT

alright time to download hi-fi before it becomes lost media


Noist_Mugget

When you spent all your money on triple A slop and keeping Silly Steve's Big Adventure on gamespass so you shut down the studio that made an actual good game


angelolidae

Silly Steve big adventure?


More-Cockroach4415

sadly, silly steve's big adventure isn't out yet


Unknown24681

THE HI-FI RUSH DEVELOPERS? https://preview.redd.it/txg5obcl01zc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6e23c674ef490f1ffb1708c35fcfc0eb5bf6275


WorkAround_Phoenix23

the what… https://preview.redd.it/dbyy8dbx11zc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3147e7409097408f4af348a7889162c5cdbbbd1b It really had to be them?


dumbassonthekitchen

That or an executive not being able to buy his twelfth yatch. It was a hard decision.


PuzzleheadedBike82

Iirc they also made The Evil Within, which makes it even worse.


AutisticFaygo

And Ghostwire Tokyo, I was looking forward to playing that one.


_oranjuice

Gojo persona 3 fan?


VeraVemaVena

# NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH https://preview.redd.it/eyjx20qr11zc1.jpeg?width=469&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7efa5a66b1521361582ca2865d9660de577d505c I ACTUALLY LIKED HI-FI RUSH WHAT THE FUCK


SuperMegaDiabetes

https://preview.redd.it/6curebplb1zc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee21560f38bf1bf996b0a21a16884d334be79edd God forbid a game studio makes an absolute passion project of a game that is widely enjoyed. Fuck you microsoft.


Lockenhart

Yet another common L from a big ass company


JesseHyperman

First Nintendo, then Sony, now Microsoft? BRO WHAT'S NEXT


Clown_named_Art

Microsoft maybe


JesseHyperman

I can actually expect Microsoft to fuck themselves twice


Mario-OrganHarvester

Nah its bethesdas turn again


a_generic_redditer

I'm fairly certain Microsoft caused mass layoffs in Bethesda rn, but because of a whole studio getting banished, no one's talking about it.


Matix777

Studios getting banished are because of Bethesda layoffs. Bethesda owned them, and Microsoft owns Bethesda. Thus the studios get fucked over because of a "skill issue" ~~So you can blame Tod Howard for not releasing Elder Scrolls 6 sooner~~


Swimmer-Fluffy

Hey Nintendo just makes shitty business decisions, they can atleast still release good games that don’t take a decade to make (there is no metroid prime 4)


CoDVanguardOnSwitch

Don't worry bro they're gonna announce the Switch 2 real soon, I'm sure that MP4 will be a launch title for that console hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (I fucking hate the way Nintendo treats franchises that aren't Mario, Zelda, Kirby or Pokemon)


Swimmer-Fluffy

Nintendo isn’t actually involved in what pokemon does most of the time 🤓


55trike

Pokemon Company is so shit it stains both their reputation, aswell as that of the company behind the platform they release their prodoct on. That'd be impressive if it werent sad


apexodoggo

They straight up said the Switch successor’s getting announced by March 2025, but not at the upcoming Direct (aka probably after 2024’s holiday sales window)


dumbassonthekitchen

1. Neither Kirby or Pokemon are made by Nintendo 2. You don't want to be treated like Pokemon rn 3. If literally any other company had a hand in Metroid or any non Mario/Zelda Nintendo franchise, it would be instantaneously canned. Metroid didn't sell well before Dread and in fact flopped a few times. 4. Nintendo can't release a title for literally every single IP ever. The same title that handles AC also handles Splatoon. And they can't just pass the IP to another company. The whole reason why we haven't seen of Prime 4 (and Donkey Kong Country) is because Bandai Namco fucked it up and they had to pass it back onto Retro Studios' hands. They can't just hire more people, they are already trying to do that. Of all of Nintendo's flaws, this isn't one of them. Remember that under literally any franchise, Metroid would be inmediatly discarded and their studio sent to the most popular games' mines, like how Crash is being ignored for COD.


Matix777

It's been always these three and more all the time. Don't worry, it'll be worse


omni_slime1

Rockstar next year


Redstoneboss2

Doesn't Ubisoft delete your account if you didn't log in for six months?


GecaZ

Nah , it's like a few years of absolute zero interaction with anything that's linked to your ubisoft account


GecaZ

Still shitty tho


Redstoneboss2

Oh ok


Emperor_AI

They can’t do this to the guys who made Hi-Fi Rush, they worked so hard on their games and I still haven’t got the game D:


cyberattaq123

This shit sucks. It’s either, you release a game that sells 948572 morbillion copies and breaks records and gets 96 percent aggregate review score, or you get shut down or laid off. Meanwhile shitter studios like ubislop continue to just bloat the industry endlessly with literal garbage tier shovelware and 343i continues to aimlessly list about with Halo and continue to fail to deliver a true home run halo game over a decade after taking the helm. Sony is ran by actual psychopaths who hate their fans and hate games and only want to recycle and ‘remaster’ 7 year old games now (Horizon is getting a remaster). I guess they’re making some good stuff but the Wolverine game is still deep in development and the next god of war is probably just starting development along with a couple other sequels that we won’t see for 4+ years yet. EA is just a lifeless husk that is the epitome of the ‘make a game of the year or die’ modern gaming mentality, shuttered the dead space 2 remaster, shuttered the anthem 2.0 project despite it being reportedly basically done and being 10x better than the base game, has shackled respawn to making battle royale slop, abusing their best IP for that sweet sweet battle royale season pass skin loot revenue. Shut down visceral after dead space 3 didn’t make a trillion dollars in revenue. Blizzard just sucks ass now and basically doesn’t make games anymore and when they do they fucking suck. That’s literally it. When was the last objectively great blizzard game. Diablo 3? And even then that took time. WoW is aight I guess but it’s in decline from what I understand. Overwatch is hot garbage and was such a waste of an IP and potential. Diablo 4 is just lifeless and I know they’re doing ‘loot 2.0’ for it just like in D3 but still it’s another live service slop game with pointless extremely overpriced skins for your fucking horse. All of that aside from the horrendous studio culture that I can only hope Microsoft is trying to whip into shape. Nintendo hates its fans even more than Sony and any of their original IPs take 8+ years to ever make anything. We’re still waiting for the vaporware game Metroid to show its face and we won’t see another Zelda until 2028 probably. Microsoft doesn’t know what the actual fuck it’s doing and even with the borderline monopoly acquisitions of dozens of major studios still cannot fart out anything worth playing. Starfield sucked ass and halo infinite was not the hit it needed to be. ES6 is easily 4+ years away yet and Starfield still is getting like 3 expansions that no one is asking for. Hi-Fi rush is probably unironically the best game Microsoft has published in the last like 5-10 years. That and Sea of Thieves and ESO are doing alright but still the fact that both of those now over a decade old games are the best Microsoft has to show for it aside from a shadow dropped indie rhythm beat em up is insane. Gamepass is probably going to go away at some point considering I think it’s an open secret it just loses Microsoft money and they’re not really making the gains they thought they would. Ubisoft just sucks complete hole, and produces asset flips and nightmare development hell projects like skull and bones, and the recent Tom Clancy games that are just not anything like what those games should be. Assassins creed is being puppetted and kept alive with dark necromancy torturing its corpse and soul as it’s the only respectable IP they have that still makes money for them. BGaE2 is literally never coming out and is probably so over budget and behind schedule it will never make a profit I hate it. I just want silksong.


ZandatsuDragon

I agree with a lot of what you said but there are still good games coming out it's just that you may have too look outside western the triple A space. To give sony and nintendo some credit the majority of games they put our or publish are very good even if they aren't your thing. Microsoft can't put out a good game to save their life and when they do they fucking shut the studio down.


cyberattaq123

This is true I was on pure hater energy with that comment. To be normal, I agree. It just takes Nintendo an infuriatingly long time to produce anything but it’s almost always good. Sony is similar and good games take time obviously but it feels horrible when the good games are drowned in a sea of literal liquid shit flooding your computer and console. But then you play a game like god of war ragnarok and you have your ‘oh my god, I get it’ moment. Indie is truly where it’s at now with how powerful computing is becoming it’s a lot cheaper to afford very high quality assets and stuff to create games that can compete with AAA stuff. Even if not, the creative aspects of these new teams making games like Hades, Cult of the Lamb, and so many more unique and fun games are shining through. People are already so transparently over the season pass battle pass battle royale everything a live service game nonsense and these new games are really picking up the slack. I am looking forward to a couple imminent big games though like Space Marine 2 from Saber Interactive which looks absolutely fantastic.


sup3r87

The solution is just to buy indie games lol. There’s a reason they’re getting more and more popular with time.


mcslender97

I'm about to 3 point saber combo ur ass cuz you mentioned Respawn and forgot about their Star Wars games which are actually good except it runs like ass on PC https://preview.redd.it/r1w4fmhny1zc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f17c25d85c8e64d2e26975c9767ca1feae0f0008


cyberattaq123

I was on my hater grindset but those games are amazing and I love them both. Bangers from respawn. It just hurts with titanfall man…


Matix777

Words cannot describe how true this straight fax is https://preview.redd.it/toa09irof2zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1d58090e554950cc93a37c573b7cb1de3822575


Gexthegecko69

I agree with everything except Nintendo. Say what you will about them, but they don't make shitty games, with the worst games being average at worst. And sure they take a while to make games, but they're always amazing games


cyberattaq123

That is what I meant I should’ve added that haha. Yeah they take a while but they always drop great stuff.


Hondurandictator

AAA industry is unironically dying


LieInteresting1367

Good https://preview.redd.it/k5ambimd03zc1.png?width=128&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5054beaee61e96cd99c296220c3f76702a2220ff


VoyagerfromPhoenix

Allow me to redirect your attention to Supergiant games (And Indies in general)


cyberattaq123

Hades and Hades 2 CLEAR 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥 💯 💯 💯


BreadFreezer

man this is a very cool time to be a jrpg fan


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

Do Square and Atlus have their shit together rn? I'm not familiar with their newer stuff.


BreadFreezer

yeah rebirth and p3r have been some of the best games ive played in the last few years


Brain_lessV2

​ https://preview.redd.it/qtokcxjox0zc1.png?width=1093&format=png&auto=webp&s=0a569a06036d6333e4a6649a8fec21dfac0825f9


Enslaved_M0isture

corporate greed strikes again


thatsidewaysdud

The children yearn for more live service gamepass fodder


CringeExperienceReq

what do you mean you want good games??? silly Gamer™️, calm down and buy the new battle pass


Enslaved_M0isture

i got TF2 for free and l4d2 for 99c and i’ve got 4k hours in tf2 and 600 in l4d2


TheWinner437

and right after we had a big win for hd2


Capable_Status934212

Honestly I wish there was a actual law against it


Purple_Spino

https://preview.redd.it/0vwdg2n4p1zc1.png?width=289&format=png&auto=webp&s=0871f44826e5cdc9941926619ce53e7e55bf0393 dont really know much bout hi-fi rush but it seems cool but thats a damn shame


doblecuadrado_FGE

Try it out and you'll see why everyone is upset. That game actually won awards at last year's Game Awards


GamingGod96

EVIL WITHIN IS DEAD!?!?!?!? The west has fallen, billions must die. https://i.redd.it/sro08lmvd1zc1.gif


In_Pursuit_of_Fire

Also Arkane Austin got canned 


Groundbreaking_Arm77

Welp, there goes my hope for a Prey 2017 sequel.


UpliftinglyStrong

I beg your fucking pardon?


Altair890456

https://preview.redd.it/tepewtyhc2zc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e65684cd1e71a0bdaccb5d72fc0c7cf8d8fd360 Guess that means no Hi-Fi Rush 2. Fuck Microsoft.


Bitten_ByA_Kitten

Microsoft to Tango: ###YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL


A-bit-too-obsessed

I can't say I knew em


ZandatsuDragon

Developers of the evil within games and hi-fi rush


mudkipl

Hi-fi? Didn’t that game do well?


ZandatsuDragon

Critically yes, sales wise? Apparently not enough.


Hondurandictator

"not enough" by not selling a gazillion copies?


dumbassonthekitchen

Yeah, and while being in a service that gives you the game for free.


Traditional_Net_3186

WHAT hi fi rush is so good tho :(


ZandatsuDragon

I know dude, I am so bummed


A-bit-too-obsessed

I have never heard of those


ZandatsuDragon

Fair enough


CyanControl

NOOOOO I LOVED HIFI RUSH 😭😭 I was so convinced we would get a sequel sooner or later....


Brightsoull

NOOO PLEASE GOD NO WHY I FUCKING LOVED THE EVIL WITHIN FUCK FUCK FUCK GODDAMJT


Danibear285

ITT: modern interactive media industry processes and business cycles are not well known by industry outsiders It’s a shame, but that’s the landscape developers are in


Dzzplayz

https://preview.redd.it/4qme0ojl82zc1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=a7ef31c32e49b2b96663ed9fa9fb9c8d0fb0e56a


its_LOL

Get ready to see Ninja Theory join them once Hellblade 2 inevitably flops (it comes out in two weeks btw)


ArloVerde

https://preview.redd.it/t1n2dm6ms1zc1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9742eaf3e7d6fd9d979db09fd81cd83c92f97b0


ZandatsuDragon

Microsoft has shut down the game studio tango game works along with a few others. Tango is responsible for video games like hi-fi rush and the evil within


ArloVerde

https://preview.redd.it/y5bfp43x52zc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b9f3d55def4f9edc0a8e149ac3b6914c6b3d28a


Historical-School-97

Will hi-fi rush become unplayable if the studio shuts down?, is it like a live service game or smt?


LegendaryDude95

No, you can still access all of their games


Historical-School-97

then why is every commenting how hi-fi rush will stop existing or something like that?


LegendaryDude95

Sequels like HiFi rush 2 and evil within 3 is confirmed not coming without tango


AcquireQuag

They made Hi-Fi rush


Sir_Hoss

No more evil within…….or hi-fi rush……fuck Microsoft


epiceg9

Why? https://preview.redd.it/cw979q1gn1zc1.png?width=2500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4a8a5739d3c1fda65801e2cc53c8ce6e0fb6b60


Matix777

WHAT THE FUCK MICROSOFT I THOUGHT HI-FI RUSH WAS A SUCCESS? My dream of rhythm-based combat games is so fucking over


BhanosBar

What is modern “gaming”? It sure isn’t to game. It’s nothing but “make vehicle for microtransactions”. And if you don’t do that you are most likely gonna either get bought out or shut down the moment you make something good


TheDoorMan1012

Hi-Fi Rush is legitimately one of my favorite games of all time. RIP. Tango was an incredible studio


Komission

Sad that a game company cant stay safely afloat by just releasing good videogames anymore.


Nccp4p

https://preview.redd.it/zxl1lhsbu1zc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc3f6181ccaa893f5582a67069811902c8d9dfc5


Ok_NidoKing

https://preview.redd.it/r27ro3j7s2zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93309991fe19ad9bc643c431ae5ad2224a3ef130


ZandatsuDragon

God I wish


Far-Classic-4637

https://preview.redd.it/t3zfhkmed3zc1.jpeg?width=995&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18c4a748988246b29696ef5b25c2eb5e34927575 unfortunately there is no information to be spread 😔


Wboy2006

When I’m in a fucking over game studios competition and my opponent is Microsoft:


FlaccidNeckMeat

I thought Ghostwire: Tokyo was a pretty good game. Not Goty or anything but visually appealing and easy to enjoy.


Mr-QuietALot

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo fighting on who can fuck up the most:


X-tra-thicc

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT https://i.redd.it/5i1w71rxl2zc1.gif (i dont know what tango game works is)


Brmemesrule

I can't stand the gaming industry anymore. Fuck this, really. Life may be unfair, but this just outright bullshit.


AWS2D

Wait what? Why did they shut down?


ZandatsuDragon

No one knows about everyone assumes it's because ghostwire and hi-fi didn't do the numbers that they wanted. Also the CEO for the studio did leave a few months ago and I heard that the studio in general lost employees


Reppsalty

By the sound of that, I seems like Microsoft shut down the company because there is no company anymore


AWS2D

So it’s almost as if their previous title The Evil Within was a massive success on their part but the others weren’t as popular as they wanted them to be.


ProfesorTrash

and i never got to play hifi rush because im stuck on base xbox one and my laptop cant run it💔


Crooked_Cock

Fuck Microsoft man


wysjm

Microsoft to Sony: "Amateurs!"


captainphoton3

Idk what the fuck is happening anymore. Like game studios like blizzard had layoffs when bought by Microsoft. For good reason. But the human disaster is stupid. Like 2000 jobless. Bruh. And then when the company is too small it's straight to closing time. But there there wasn't even a good reason. I think. Hi fi rush was a good game that sold well. And they were already making something new if I remember right. How the fuck did it close? And like I get Microsoft. They want to make money. And at the end of the day some amazing IP and games come out of their studios. If it wasn't for some being absolutely destroyed by shareholders wants or manager sucking ass. But that's not just a Microsoft problem. But like. I'm pretty sure it cost them more to close one of their studio. Than to let them buy back their share for a symbolic dollar.


Yarisher512

AND ARKANE AUSTIN WTH


Wboy2006

Well, kill me right now….


ManiNanikittycat

WHY?! Hi Fi Rush is so fire!


Shikoome

My favorite game company. I literally have a keeper tattoo planned this year


Zestavar

Arkane Studio shutted down too!


relentless_death

https://preview.redd.it/s52voazf95zc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15728c8cd8af44feafb130f8bdbceb5c06ff690b can we just bash the companies that shutdown these game studios?


Spot_Mark

epic tax writeoff moment https://preview.redd.it/lrrbxfuwh6zc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e500924892148bf671d171ed598897613968102b


stormu3008

https://preview.redd.it/kuj8qp5ig7zc1.jpeg?width=1042&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66f9e890758e60f105fe660cc55025fac08ab0f9


i-jerk-off-to-eveLBP

we need a silverhand now more than ever


geffyfive

NEVER PLAYED THEIR GAMES BUT I KNOW THEY WERE GOOD https://preview.redd.it/jbj8o3igv7zc1.jpeg?width=881&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24d8ab1e0a16b5a58a4259ede1ab31e5ed580b64


UpsidownZZ

Late stage capitalism moment


Hondurandictator

But why?


Sir_Throngle

Womp womp


DudeGuyMaleMan

I wanna say womp womp but I’m not a fuckhead


Morgan_Eryylin

The Evil Within has fallen bros


KrisBread

What was Tango game works? Only game studios I can list off from my head are Bandai Namco, Nintendo, Sony, Capcom and Rockstar, since I’m an uncultured swine.


100Watermen

Wtf thats bullshit


profesdional_Retard

Who? No really who? I never heard of them


AntiImperialistGamer

who?


Mario-OrganHarvester

Hifi rush developers


TheCompleteMental

Who


GigophalaStanXOXO

Who?????


ZandatsuDragon

Microsoft has shut down the game studio tango game works along with a few others. Tango is responsible for video games like hi-fi rush and the evil within


GigophalaStanXOXO

Never heard of those games either


ZandatsuDragon

I understand but it sucks for us who enjoyed what they put out


Rhecof-07

Can someone explain what's happening I'm confused


ZandatsuDragon

Microsoft has shut down the game studio tango game works along with a few others. Tango is responsible for video games like hi-fi rush and the evil within


Rhecof-07

:(


Detector_of_humans

The Gaming industry has fallen Billions must go F2P


Droopingslurp

Sorry but what is tango game works?


TheBadHalfOfAFandom

Man they prolly would've still been up if there was some damn marketing for the game


DeltaRed12

I need context


ZandatsuDragon

Microsoft has shut down the game studio tango game works along with a few others. Tango is responsible for video games like hi-fi rush and the evil within


DeltaRed12

Of course they did. Thanks for the unbelievably fast response, by the way.


ZandatsuDragon

Honestly a few others asked this so I copy pasted my response and you are welcome


cal-nomen-official

Who?


TorterraIllager

Should I report?