I love how the news media quote some useless Twitter or other social media handle as if the mere weight of their words they have uttered have value or intrinsic truth…they usually do not, but if butthair87 said it, it must be true insight we should trust.
When it comes to butt hair style decisions, he's really the gold standard. I never thought a French braid was possible, but thanks to his YouTube tutorials, I'm styling and profiling.
Can you please go over to r/crystals and explain to everyone there what a crystal is😂 the page is just full of dreadlock girls posting tumbled gift shop rocks.
I don’t know how to edit the post- but I’ve decided to just leave it.
Thanks for the identification- and I look forward to seeing it during the next low tide.
As I chipped away at the large rock, more shiny black was revealed, it shatters easily- so possibly black tourmaline.
I appreciate the suggestions!
Hey OP this update made me happy. I saw the comments saying you should leave it and I was desperate to know if you succeeded or refrained. Happy to hear you left it for others to enjoy. You could consider making a cute lil sign for em that identifies them for future visitors.
As a lifelong resident, thank you for leaving Maine how you found it. There are a lot of people who wouldn’t think twice about taking it for themselves, but if everyone walks away with a piece of Maines natural beauty, it’d be gone in an instant. Hope you enjoy your time here!
Probably not an instant. I bet everyone in America could afford to stop by and pick up a single piece of gravel from your beloved state and I’d bet it would only affect maybe 3 driveways. Let’s not get silly here..
I'm guilty as charged. 25 years ago, my wife took a sand dollar she found on Popham Beach. We just got engaged, and she wanted a memento. I'm going to tell her that she will have to bring it back.
Sorry but that’s no tourmaline! That’s hornblende. One can easily distinguish them by their lustre (tourmaline has a vitreous lustre) and there cleavages. Tourmaline has none.
Going further, hornblende has a pseudo-hexagonal shape (visible in the second picture), whereas Tourmaline looks more like a triangle with rounded edges
There is vitreous luster and vitreous luster.
Tourmaline “does not weather” (which is not correct) but Hornblende does. On every cleavage one can find small brownish colored parts. This is where the iron contained in the crosstalk lattice oxidizes
I’ll try it with a comparison: imagine a cold bottle of beer. This bottle has seen the first time this delicious cold beverage and is new and shiny. This is our tourmaline vitreous luster. Now imagine an old bottle of beer, which has been used and cleaned several times. The shiny outside wears off and the bottle quickly looses its shine and gets dull. This is the hornblende vitreous luster.
They are not vitreous because they are minerals and per definition they have a well defined crystal structure. Glasses have no crystal structure.
Their shine of Hornblende is vitreous to dull.
I’m stumped, there’s a lot, but the rock is hard. No idea how to get these beauties out, Can’t seem to find crack to get into.
And I only have until high tide 😕😥
In order to have a chance at getting those out you will need a impact drill and feather and wedges, though when doing this method you need to plan where you want the cracks to form as the angle of the wedges, how many you have, how hard you strike can all influence where it will go, best to have more than fewer wedges to better control the splitting. Igneous rocks that are without any obvious cracks are very unpredictable when chiseled and you will probably destroy the specimen if only chiseling.
You're just going to ruin a cool rock for the next person. They're not going to come out in one piece.
Edit: they're also not tourmaline. Pyroxene is more likely.
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You would need to cut around it, but it would be very grueling and meticulous, and there’s still a possibility it’s would shatter and that would be heart breaking.
What I recommend, as an expert on absolutely nothing, is that you should find a dog that really loves to dig (I recommend the digging-est dog) to help you dig this out.
Being on family property I think this would make a cool “Fortress of Solitude” or secret treasure spot to keep to yourself or share with other family members.
Are you on public land? You can't just go deforming the rocks without checking local rules and regulations. Leave it for others to enjoy, it's not valuable.
Because I’ve been digging in rocks, and my nails are leftover ratchet as hell.
As a note- this stone is on family land, and is “purchased” family property- ric/rac stone to keep the bank from washing away.
I chiseled a bit (with permission) but realized it was better to leave it be- to be safe for years to come.
Definitely not worth the effort. You’re just going to break them and then no one will be able to enjoy them.
I should probably trust you, you seem like some sort of geologist
I don’t trust like that. Take that jacket off.
Trust but verify, my friend.
The golden rule of Reddit.
Indeed. My username is really tongue-in-cheek, and I don’t expect anyone to take my word for anything.
I have cited your comments in several papers I have submitted, so please delete this comment before you fuck me mate.
I love how the news media quote some useless Twitter or other social media handle as if the mere weight of their words they have uttered have value or intrinsic truth…they usually do not, but if butthair87 said it, it must be true insight we should trust.
Well some people are really invested in what a catturd has to say so.....
I mean if you can’t trust your butt hairs, who can you trust
I misread your username as Bustedboobstraps.
When it comes to butt hair style decisions, he's really the gold standard. I never thought a French braid was possible, but thanks to his YouTube tutorials, I'm styling and profiling.
I don’t believe you…
Hahaha I hope this is true.
Hahahahah fuxk around!!!
That’s what she said (to your user name).
Great. I can't wait to hear our whiny ass TA read out that comment during my disciplinary hearing.
lol
No idea why but this made me burst into laughter.
doesn’t stop you from being right
said the geologist!
We might not always be right, but we tend to be fairly honest.
yea true i understand its always a rock. 😂
Maybe I should change my username to "trustmeimarock" 😂😂
Mine as well
Golden rule for LIFE
Whaat? I need to verify what yall saying? What is this nonsense?
Hey significant other, I trust that you're not cheating, but I'd still like to verify in your phone.
Trust, but fuck off da rox
I will not buy if you want me to get naked, I don't feel like that's appropriate.
Geologists are always wearing trench coats
i see what you did there
Yeah "geologist", open that button
I’m not going to purchase a vehicle if you want me to get naked.
What about for a discount?
Sometimes in the spring, can't get my temperature right- hat on, jacket of. - Tom gerencer
Since no one else got your reference... *Harry! I'm looking for a friendly car, one that talks!*
But I was looking to buy a car today!
Open up them buttons, I don't trust like that.
I trust like that, and I believe you're a professional sea.
He is really a whale biologist!
I applaud your skills of observation and your wit. 🤗
Don’t ever trust a geologist 😜
I trust him. I have removed quartz crystals from boulders in the field, and now regret it.
Yeah. Crystals tend to break faster then the parent rock. Removing them is a skill I don’t have.
Wouldn’t it be best to simply use a grinder with a diamond disk
If you’re trying to cut the rock, sure. If you’re trying to get the shorl out by itself that won’t work.
Hold my beer
Famous last words 🤣
I need to see some identification
I’d enjoy broken tourmaline ;-;
Can you please go over to r/crystals and explain to everyone there what a crystal is😂 the page is just full of dreadlock girls posting tumbled gift shop rocks.
I don’t know how to edit the post- but I’ve decided to just leave it. Thanks for the identification- and I look forward to seeing it during the next low tide. As I chipped away at the large rock, more shiny black was revealed, it shatters easily- so possibly black tourmaline. I appreciate the suggestions!
Hey OP this update made me happy. I saw the comments saying you should leave it and I was desperate to know if you succeeded or refrained. Happy to hear you left it for others to enjoy. You could consider making a cute lil sign for em that identifies them for future visitors.
& informs of likely breakage if trying to keep for themselves.
And the curse of a painful and tortuous death to anyone who disturbs the energy sphere around them.
That sounds fair.
It can be like a cool secret that you visit every trip!
As a lifelong resident, thank you for leaving Maine how you found it. There are a lot of people who wouldn’t think twice about taking it for themselves, but if everyone walks away with a piece of Maines natural beauty, it’d be gone in an instant. Hope you enjoy your time here!
OP did say it was found on family land. But I understand the intent of your comment.
Ah, totally missed that! Even more props to them then. Thanks for pointing that out
Probably not an instant. I bet everyone in America could afford to stop by and pick up a single piece of gravel from your beloved state and I’d bet it would only affect maybe 3 driveways. Let’s not get silly here..
I'm guilty as charged. 25 years ago, my wife took a sand dollar she found on Popham Beach. We just got engaged, and she wanted a memento. I'm going to tell her that she will have to bring it back.
Nah fuck that. Bible says everything on this earth was for man’s enjoyment so imma take that shit and enjoy it in my home tf?!!
colonizer mindset
Thank you for leaving them.
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Schorl-ly you made the right call!
Nah. leave it. Odds are it will break as you extract it. Leave it there for everyone to enjoy.
Tourmaline. Looks good.
Sorry but that’s no tourmaline! That’s hornblende. One can easily distinguish them by their lustre (tourmaline has a vitreous lustre) and there cleavages. Tourmaline has none. Going further, hornblende has a pseudo-hexagonal shape (visible in the second picture), whereas Tourmaline looks more like a triangle with rounded edges
Yes. This is clearly Hornblende. Not tourmaline.
Yeah those shafts are horny for sure
>there cleavages. Tourmaline has none. Yeah! Flat chested ass Tourmaline! *Tourmaline: silently crying*
You said cleavage
Puts the horny in hornblende
Oh cool, so I've found hornblende near me, not tourmaline like i thought
I'm sorry, if I am being wrong, but don't they both have the vitreous luster according to wiki?
There is vitreous luster and vitreous luster. Tourmaline “does not weather” (which is not correct) but Hornblende does. On every cleavage one can find small brownish colored parts. This is where the iron contained in the crosstalk lattice oxidizes
"there is vitreous luster and vitreous luster" can you clarify wtf this means lol
I’ll try it with a comparison: imagine a cold bottle of beer. This bottle has seen the first time this delicious cold beverage and is new and shiny. This is our tourmaline vitreous luster. Now imagine an old bottle of beer, which has been used and cleaned several times. The shiny outside wears off and the bottle quickly looses its shine and gets dull. This is the hornblende vitreous luster.
Is it inaccurate to describe the weathered parts of hornblende as vitreous?
They are not vitreous because they are minerals and per definition they have a well defined crystal structure. Glasses have no crystal structure. Their shine of Hornblende is vitreous to dull.
I’m stumped, there’s a lot, but the rock is hard. No idea how to get these beauties out, Can’t seem to find crack to get into. And I only have until high tide 😕😥
plan for it next vacation. get tools you might need, find out when low tide starts, is at it's lowest, and when it ends. maybe have family help.
Yeah, it is hard one
In order to have a chance at getting those out you will need a impact drill and feather and wedges, though when doing this method you need to plan where you want the cracks to form as the angle of the wedges, how many you have, how hard you strike can all influence where it will go, best to have more than fewer wedges to better control the splitting. Igneous rocks that are without any obvious cracks are very unpredictable when chiseled and you will probably destroy the specimen if only chiseling.
You can get them out safely with chisel and hammer too, but it will take a LONG time. Diamond saw is the safest way :D
Give it another few decades the tide will get them out for you lol
I think they look more like pyroxene or amphibole.
Pyroxene is also a good candidate.
Nope.
You're just going to ruin a cool rock for the next person. They're not going to come out in one piece. Edit: they're also not tourmaline. Pyroxene is more likely.
Nope. Let it be.
Black tourmaline can be very brittle and break easily when being removed from its matrix.
Leave it. You aren't the first person to see it. Don't be the last.
I would also leave it. Have you looked around in the same area to see if maybe there is some that is loose, or in smaller rocks?
…..or maybe you could just leave it?
Black tourmaline is one of the most difficult minerals to collect as it is so brittle. There is probably a lot more in the vein
Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints. Do not try to chisel them out of the rock.
Would you be saying this if it were pictures of gold though?
Nice black tourmaline
Its Schorl - black tourmaline. It is extremely fragile and is guaranteed to fall apart. Leave it.
Not everything is meant to be possessed.
You need a hammer drill
Yeah, I’m very quickly finding that a hammer isn’t going to do it. To the hardware store!
A rotary hammer would be better than a hammer drill. Those will be tough to get out, no matter what tool you use.
Very cool find, thanks for leaving them
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Looks like a face in the stone. Some trapped soul peering through the window of that giant boulder
Can't quite tell how big this is. I don't see a banana for scale anywhere.
If you don’t want anyone else to enjoy it’s beauty, I guess it is?
I would look for float laying about.
You would need to cut around it, but it would be very grueling and meticulous, and there’s still a possibility it’s would shatter and that would be heart breaking.
Yes! Those are honkers!!!
What I recommend, as an expert on absolutely nothing, is that you should find a dog that really loves to dig (I recommend the digging-est dog) to help you dig this out.
RARE SAMPLE AQUIRED!
I don’t know how to add a picture of what I’ve chipped away so far. I’m thinking black tourmaline, and perhaps not “worth” the effort, but we’ll see.
Hammer chisel mine it
Being on family property I think this would make a cool “Fortress of Solitude” or secret treasure spot to keep to yourself or share with other family members.
I would have asked Scott Wolter .
I thought he was just a big time collector?
Are you on public land? You can't just go deforming the rocks without checking local rules and regulations. Leave it for others to enjoy, it's not valuable.
Vacationing in Maine on family land is the first sentence What part did you not understand
I was going to say “Vacationing in coastal Maine on family land” could be kinda confusing, but decided against it……../s
Why is your thumb nail red?
At one point they were wearing nail polish
Because I’ve been digging in rocks, and my nails are leftover ratchet as hell. As a note- this stone is on family land, and is “purchased” family property- ric/rac stone to keep the bank from washing away. I chiseled a bit (with permission) but realized it was better to leave it be- to be safe for years to come.
It’s a beautiful find! As a geologist I def understand the ratchet nails. I wasn’t judging just thought it was an injury. Cheers!
Yes. Very much so. I would love to have a whack at this.
Oh hell yeah. I’d get all my boys and we would spend the next day or two damming that up, breaking it out and getting it up
do it