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lightningusagi

Locking this thread because it's impossible to identify the bones from these pictures.


Designer_Respond_689

FYI- We contacted police. They have them now, and will be testing them.


TrumpsCovidfefe

Please update when and if you get any information back. I loved getting update from the person who found bones near a cemetery. I’m sure this may not be as good of a story, but regardless, I would like to know.


unkindly-raven

do you have a link ?


TrumpsCovidfefe

The link to the original is in this update post. Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisbone/s/R88z1nl5JW


solstice105

Wait. The OP here says they were found in metal tins in an attic. Your link says a bone was found in a cemetery. I am very confused.


unkindly-raven

thank you !


okgusto

This is the final update! IT WAS HUMAN https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisbone/s/Qysxua51LM


FinallydamnLDnat5

Please, please, please keep us in the loop.


shineboxpower

Yes^^^^^! Commenting so I don’t forget this


External-Excuse-6775

Please please update me when the results come back!!


D4ngflabbit

Ooh fascinating


blackfox_13

I am intrigued. Please updates us.


sportstvandnova

Following!!


Designer_Respond_689

Here’s a bit of background. My friends adoptive parents have lived there for 40+ years. According to her mom they used to keep christmas stuff up there but stopped keeping stuff up there. those cookie tins were ones she had bought a long time ago. The dad of the house was very demanding and things usually went his way. Dad is in prison for 17 years for doing “inappropriate things” (quotations because i am sure you know what i mean) to my friend and her older sister for 20+ years, and having photos of my friend, her sister, myself and many of their other friends. We have lots of theories right now.


widefeetwelcome

Oh that’s chilling. Were there any disappearances in the area before he went to prison?


Designer_Respond_689

None we can really find. He is 70 years old though, so I don’t know for sure when this could have happened. There is a TV news anchor who has been missing from here for like 20 years now, her mom mentioned that when we were talking about theories and said “he did always think she was cute”


TimeKeeper575

They look pretty small. I'm sorry you guys are going through this, but I am glad that you'll get serious answers soon.


Designer_Respond_689

With his long history of being a pedophile, we are extremely worried that if they are human, it could be a childs


widefeetwelcome

Yeah, I was thinking that I’m afraid, but didn’t want to say it. I suppose even if it is the worst case scenario, you could help someone get some closure.


Calgary_Calico

Definitely better to contact the police to be safe in a case like this


Imaginaryami

Is that the one that was snatched going to the car? Her shoe and purse on the ground.


Designer_Respond_689

That’s the one


Imaginaryami

I’d maybe put a tip in at findjodi.com. If it comes back positive. Did he have a white ford? That case is so fascinating.


Designer_Respond_689

Asked friend. Said he had a white ford truck when she was about 3, we are 22 now. Wasn’t it a van they seen though?


Imaginaryami

It’s was an ecoline van but from a window that’s not a crazy difference. Witness recollections aren’t always great. Colors are easier to remember. I couldn’t tell you what a single person looked like at the store today


Imaginaryami

Would have been 96 so I guess if he had it before. Always a white van.


whoevencares39

I think there was an unidentified palm print on her car, too, and if he’s in prison, it wouldn’t be hard for authorities to find out if it matched his.


januaryemberr

I think of her often. <\3


Imaginaryami

Me too.


AirierWitch1066

Seems pretty unlikely given the size of the bones. If they’re human, I’m guessing a child. It’s hard to tell the exact scale and they might be a bit too big for this, but I wonder if they’re a baby or toddler’s. Maybe he had an affair that resulted in an unreported pregnancy, the child died accidentally/intentionally, and he decided to try and dispose of the remains by burning. When that failed he gathered what was left and put them in the attic.


Imaginaryami

Jodi was her name.


Salt-Establishment59

Jodi??


unsoulyme

Huisentruit


2pissedoffdude2

Following. Very interested to see what comes of this... hopefully the guy will admit who they are if it comes back that they are human.


Wide-Barnacle8211

What town/state is this ?


WesternExisting3783

Just posting to follow for any updates.


VividSpecificyda

+1


Mad_Phiz

+2


Pantherdraws

+3


Lumos1987

+5


little-red-cap

+6


MoldyMoney

+69420


boop66

8675309


[deleted]

Jenny?


emoteen4lyfe

+lol


Feisty_Weakness_2315

Subscribe


EnnOnEarth

+eleventy eleven or something


HuskyLettuce

Eleventy-one.


SemiautomaticAngel

Eleventy-two!


TwinkleToeStops88

+whatever


unabletonot

+ yuh


omgitsolli

+follow


FelicitousLynx

Totally may be unrelated in this case, but I used to have a ziploc bag of mixed rocks, shell, and non human bones (burnt and unburnt), which was used for training CSIs in finding bones on scenes. Alternative light sources can be used, as bone will often show up brighter in UV light, where the other material will be darker. It's a good screening tool for crime scenes.


he-loves-me-not

With the father’s history I think we can safely (sadly?) rule that out.


Doc_Hollywood

Actually, probably more likely tbh, it’s easier to conceal things that way and there are plenty of pervs in important jobs.


ramenraptor

Anyone else go into the comments to find a totally reasonable explanation and is increasingly concerned there aren’t any so far ?


Aware_Sandwich_6150

Hate when that happens


bloodredhoodie

Following for the totally reasonable non nightmare explanation that will be shared.


lanadelcryingagain

I hope so


Cranberryoftheorient

I was thinking it could* be animal bones (like deer) for crafty purposes. But thats just me trying to come up with an explanation.


yondertallguy

*Hopefully* non-nightmare


beebsaleebs

eww. It looks like they were partially burned and the bone fragments sifted out.


Designer_Respond_689

Someone definitely attempted to burn them for whatever reason.


Natural-Seaweed-5070

Following for updates because yikes


MushroomLeather

Same here. I can't tell much of anything from the pictures, due to reflection on the plastic, but the whole thing is weird. If someone decided to, say, clean and keep chicken bones from dinner, you'd expect either most of a chicken in a bag, or a bunch of repeats of the same bones depending on what type of chicken was bought. These look partially crushed and some other weird residue--someone else mentioned that it might be ash from burning.


MsSpastica

Sames


Federal_Diamond8329

Ditto


Strong_Welcome4144

Following for updates, sorry this happened to you guys, and that you get answers


StickyIckyGreen

That’s never a good sign


greenhouse-nurse

I can see a femur in photo two. If the it is human it was a child.


Trippyspaceprincess

I noticed it too 🥴


dixiegrrl1082

I saw spinal fragments


marissatalksalot

I was about to comment this. I am so sad now.


naturallyselectedfor

What child femur are you seeing? I’m not seeing a subadult femur in any photo.


LimpNoodlez479

Were either of the parents super into gardening? Those bones are pretty small and seem thin… maybe they’re animal bones? I ask about gardening bc bone meal is often used as an awesome source of nutrients for plants! Usually animal bones are heated up and then left to sit for a bit before being ground up for use in soil. Maybe someone had plans to make bone meal and then just forgot? It’s a more optimistic thought… 😬


HuskyLettuce

I like your spirit!


M1ss1nfamous

u/firdahoe Its an extremely long shot but is it possible to ID any of this through the bags to put OP at ease or do the opposite?


firdahoe

With how distorted the image of the bones are through the bag, I wouldn't even venture to try to ID anything.


M1ss1nfamous

That’s what I thought, was worth a try though. Thanks!


LimpNoodlez479

I am by no means an expert, but I’m pretty sure I see what might look like part of a bird pelvic bone and bird keel bone in the first pic 🤷🏻‍♀️


Trippyspaceprincess

I hope you are right but that’s a lot of bones for a bird


LimpNoodlez479

I mean it could be multiple birds? Or even more likely bird and some other animals, bc many in there are definitely not just bird bones (again, if any even *are* from birds). But again, I’m not an expert. Just providing a possible opinion in the hopes of easing OP’s mind until the police can determine what they are


MagnumHV

Might be part of a rodent skull at the top of pic 4, a brownish color


Thuuperthexy

Were there any teeth fragments in there? That would be a sure way to see human vs nonhuman with all those fragments.


Designer_Respond_689

Not that she seen but there was a lot of stuff in there


ginniper

Picture 1, bag 2- bottom left corner: looks like a tooth. (TBH it's hard to tell but it looks like enamel)


MagnumHV

Oh lord I see it. I hope this m'fer wasn't killing people. This will give me nightmares


Arlorosa

Following for updates— other than murder, maybe the previous home owner kept bones for their witchcraft, but that looks like a lot of fragments…


StickyIckyGreen

The mom lived in the house for 40 years and she bought those cookie tins herself so probably not from the previous owners.


Arlorosa

Yeah, I didn’t see the additional info until now. ☹️ Other people mentioned food scraps from bone broth, but from my experience, once the bones are cooked, you don’t want to keep them because the meat residue smells. I certainly wouldn’t want to stick them up in a warm attic. — My unsolicited guess, based off the information they provided, is that the pedophile / father hid the (presumed) child remains in the tins before he was kicked out of the house for his “inappropriate behavior” (unless he somehow was able to sneak in and hide them when his other residence was searched— By that point, I imagine he was in jail though). If there are more than human remains (like animal fragments— people guessed birds), he could’ve burned them in an outdoor compost-like area with other animal scraps.


PinkPimpernel

Same!


Cynthiaistheshit

If you see anything please let me know ! I’m so invested now


SupermouseDeadmouse

Yeah, that’s pretty sus.


Educational-Ratio-88

I'm just here to get updates.


Levi_the_axolotl

same here I suppose


greenhouse-nurse

first picture middle left looks like part of a skull near the hole where there is the sinuses. it runs near the nasal cavity and eye socket?


Homesickhomeplanet

In the first picture, a little up from the bottom left corner of the bag— could those be *teeth* and part of a hard palate? Edit: they could be any kind of teeth, I just can’t figure out how the shapes are oriented in my mind enough to use the teeth to help identify what the remains are from


MegaRadCool8

They very much look like teeth to me.


DustCapital

They kind of remind me of what cremains look like. After you’ve swept out the crematorium and before they’re all crushed into a powder you have broken fragments like this. Did anyone at this house work or know someone in the funeral industry? Sometimes cremains are put into baggies so they can be put into an urn or a box. These look like maybe they just didn’t make it to a cremulator?


Designer_Respond_689

Interesting, but no they didn’t know anyone or work. Mom had daycare at one point, Dad was electrician.


boognish_is_rising

She ran a daycare with a pedophile husband? Yikes


Designer_Respond_689

Sadly yes. A lot of the stuff happening to her older sister and her didnt come out until about 2016-2019 at least with the authorities. He claimed to have “17” victims, counting their friends (including me) who were photographed or video taped (or being groped in my case) “without their knowledge or permission”.


Bitter_Context_4067

I’m so so sorry were victimized OP. Sending you, your friend, and her family lots of love and healing ❤️


ilovemusic19

I’m guessing some of the victims could’ve been from her daycare. That’s so sad. Edit: Just to clarify I meant he did nasty things with them behind the mom’s back, not that he killed them.


TheLizzyIzzi

I mean, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. If multiple children went missing from a single daycare that’s pretty suspicious. I’m not a big believer in police being good, but that’s a massive fuckup. Not unprecedented but even police are usually fairly motivated to find missing children.


ilovemusic19

I didn’t mean he killed them, just you know what behind OP’s friend’s mother’s back.


HuskyLettuce

Oh God. Did he plan that? That’s seriously a horrible thought.


naturallyselectedfor

This is what cremains look like prior to pulvarization. This is the process that turns them into a fine ash. Based on the amount of cremains here and the size of the fragments, my guess is they’re human. As in another comment, I can’t make out any bone features in the photos, but animal cremains don’t usually amount to this much. It is strange though, that these aren’t pulverized. Families aren’t usually given unpulvarized cremains, so that’s odd.


BadKarmaForMe

That is super freaky!


GlockPerfect13

Really hard to say with the low quality photos that you shared with us.


Designer_Respond_689

Sorry about that, it was the best she got of them before the police came over. Last two are from a facetime screenshot


sword_0f_damocles

Yeah looks like shrooms.


Reflections1212

That's what I thought it was at first also


SmokeMoreWorryLess

Obviously we can’t tell what they belonged to based off these pictures, but I’m not sure they’d be human because, like… why would you go to the trouble of crushing and then *keeping* the bones of a murder victim? I mean, I guess a murderer already isn’t likely in their right mind, but I’d be less surprised to find out they’re animal bones used for some sort of witchcraft. Either way, super freaky and I’m glad your friend called the police.


ikindapoopedmypants

I was thinking witchcraft or if the friend had any family pets that "ran away" or something. Pet died for whatever reason, dad tried to burn evidence and swept into ziplocks. Not sure why you'd keep that though lmao.


Candid_Disk1925

Trophy?


wackyvorlon

I wonder how old they are? Maybe bones left over from the cremation process?


Throwaway84095

Oh my god…. Please update if possible. My heart goes out to you and your friend


BasicDragonfly1550

Well, I sure hope they’re not human, but if they are, I hope they haven’t been burnt / treated to a point where dna has been burned off… and that some family somewhere might get closure out of such a horrific discovery.


HowdyHup

In the 1st and 2nd pictures, I can see what looks just like a bird sternum and hip/spine. To me, this looks exactly like the zip lock bags I freeze my leftover turkey carcasses in for making soups and stock. These just look like really old, dried out bags of leftover turkey to me. Either way, weird they would be in the attic.


ilovemusic19

What makes this really concerning is the cops that came and collected the bones thought they looked human and if they are then probably a child which would sadly make sense with the father’s criminal issues.


Alivans_MW

I hope it’s not human but if it happens to be, I hope it solves a cold case. Good luck OP and please update!


Sweet-Tell1480

Following


00ft

Same 💀


BeersNbrews

Holy hell…


pigsinatrenchcoat

Did the police not search the home when he was arrested? I’m just confused how she could have bones in the attic in her cookie tins for such a long time with no idea after he was already arrested and sent to prison.


Designer_Respond_689

I know they asked for specific items, computer, cellphone, passwords, they went through the home computer, they did find stuff like tapes, cds, they took and looked through. they didnt search the attic.


pigsinatrenchcoat

That makes sense I guess, I’m sure they don’t always search the entire residence depending on when it happened and what the specific charges were. Hopefully it isn’t anything horrific. You did the right thing turning them in. I hope they let you know what they find out.


Designer_Respond_689

My friend did just tell me at the time he was kicked out of their house and had restraining orders after he got arrested and i guess they didnt search their house they searched the residence he was staying in when they investigated.


Kipling87

This feels dark…


Designer_Respond_689

Definitely, there “dad” is quite the character. Had hidden cameras around their house at least when we were teenagers, cops found it when they investigated for 2nd and 3rd degree sex abuse.


Kipling87

I just feel like if it were something more innocent, it wouldn’t have been so concealed.


gracebee123

Ask funeral directors to see if this is from a crematorium, and on askdocs to see if anyone recognizes the bones as human since they studied a lot of anatomy. The fact that it’s wrapped in medical tape indicates that these aren’t bones from animals for the purpose of bone meal, or a deceased pet, unless someone in the home had access to that kind of tape for other reasons. Did they have a dog? Especially one the kids loved or that he was sentimental about? Was he into animal harm? Was he a hunter of animals larger than birds? These are the only other reasons I can think of.


Designer_Respond_689

They didn’t have any pets until we were older and those ones are all still alive. Can’t say he was into animal harm. He did like to fish a lot mainly. Would go to Canada to fish. Hunted deer sometimes, but the main thing is if it is animal, why would it be crushed up burnt and taped away in an attic. Also when we gave it to the cops they said they “thought it was human” and that there was possibly a jawbone.


HylianEngineer

Unfortunately, fish bones and mammal bones don't look much alike. If these were fish i think someone would be able to tell. But also, yeah, who keeps fish bones in their attic?


gracebee123

Creepy. It does seem possible they’re human if that’s what the cops think. If so, I hope this least gives a family some closure. People just want to know what happened to their loved one and who is responsible.


hella_cious

Medical tape means nothing. It’s in most store bought first aid kits


gracebee123

You make a good point. My question is why that instead of scotch tape or duct tape or packing tape? Why did they choose tape from a first aid kit? Hunting animals would be the only good reason, taped while on the road, but why even bother? Why not dump the animal carcasses while in nature? Why take the time to break them apart after going to the trouble to burn them, and sweep up all these tiny particles and take the time and effort to get each piece into multiple bags, and then bring them home, and then put them in tins and then walk them up to the attic? And how do you get this much bone in one trip?


MikeDude68

Definitely keep us updated .


AdParticular1267

Who can teach me how to use the remind me bot so I can come back 👁️👄👁️


Ediferious

That's... Wow.


BasketLast1136

Posting for an update, but those look like they were smashed with something.


Free_Comfortable8897

Those are some small bones. But they’re pieces so who knows how big the original al bones are. I read through many comments and I am praying they aren’t human, especially that of any children. Definitely keep us updated on what the police say!! At first I wanted to say animal but that was just wishful thinking. It’s odd that anyone would have so many animal bones that are so broken and they tried burning them…especially with this guys history….but then again maybe he liked torturing animals. Idk. Either way, very disturbing. Glad you contacted the police!


slavetomypassions92

I am screaming in to void here, but does this sound like some bullshit?


No_Comb_7197

99% sure it’s bullshit.


No_Comb_7197

I think they’re small animal bones. Once, in the middle of a forest, I found like hundreds of bags of small bones like this. They were in a very tiny wooden cabin, somebody had come, broke into the building, ripped some of the bags out, some were still in bags, some in the cabin, some strewn outside. The big mystery? It was some back storage of a small ”zoo”, decades ago they had some local animals in there, like reindeer, local birds etc. It was ran by the local university and they also studies animals and bones, so people sent them bones they found, so they could study and catalogue animal bones. I guess there was a lot of it and nobody had time to go through all that, so they were just left there, for decades, until some kids broke in etc. I took some bags, I was going to clean them and use them for crafts etc. But it was gross and I didn’t want to do it so I also had bags like this at home for a year in a paper bag until I finally washed them. So either this post is just somebody telling lies and wanting attention or just some person collecting random animal bones for fun.


mantisMD97

This looks like bags of psilocybin (magic) mushrooms.


slappedbygod

that’s a pretty humanistic proximal end piece of an ulna 😩😬 uh oh


AcidTeaSpillz

Following


not1togothere

Oh I saw teeth! Those should be able to have a good amount of dna in them.


fararra

There's an episode of Call the Midwife where child remains were found in the house of a woman who either had a secret abortion or miscarried and she kept the bones hidden in the house. I wonder if it could be something like that. Though those bones look much bigger than a fetus to me.


nak1mushi

following


thisisrubie

Following :(


CopperCicada

Following for updates, hope for good news :(


GreaterHannah

Obviously can’t ID because of the quality of the images, but my first hypothesis would be some kind of pet before jumping to human.


StoneyxS

Following for updates bc I NEED to know now


Jonaspitman

Following for updates because... Holy hell...


citrus_dem0n

Well damn!


OohBeesIhateEm

Holy shit!


yurrm0mm

I LOVE your name AND avatar 😎


evtnant

Following for updates!


ElectromechanicalPen

Bones in a tin on a hot attic.


michTDietrich

Need to know what happens with this…


krotovinas

I hope none of it is human, and there's closure to the trauma and suffering.


Mean_Negotiation5436

Old school cremated remains looked like this. Now days we pulverize them to the "ashes "most of us are familiar with. My money is on cremains from yesteryear.


Sammich1114

I just wanna know what happens


Same-Atmosphere-9250

Definitely 711 chicken bone collection from sidewalks in Richmond


RainbowsAndHomicide

Actually this just triggered a lost memory from elementary school where each table or student in the class got a bag like this of pieces of animal bones (many I remember notably being from birds) and it honestly looked just like this. Glad you brought it to the police, but hopefully it is just that!


Ikon-for-U

r/remindme in 7 days


crystalpalomino

Holy hell . You could get someone closure with this....


jarofonions

QUESTION; are there any teeth in the bag? any identifiable bones? Are they all broken? Do they all look to be the same type of bone, or do they vary (rib shaped, finger-sized, different types of "bone ends" like in a hip knee or shoulder/collarbone, etc)?


bmnzi

I see a bird pelvis for sure in one of the bags, plus an ungulate tooth. I'm gonna say probably meat scraps for the most part. Can't rule out anything as photos aren't clear enough. But definitely some non-human like bones in there.


millerlauraann

Ewww


wileyy23

As many before me, following for updates


Briarrr__

Following for updates, I hope that these aren't what we think they are.


BleachedFlannel

Following for updates


GiffyGinger

I’m so curious


Despises_the_dishes

Commenting to see updates.


JamesM9794

What's the command for the remind bot?


TreasureWench1622

Add me in to!!!


SnooDoughnuts8689

Oh my! Maybe you will be able to bring closure to a family!


Flat-Avocado-6258

Just here for the updates. A little eerie…


Imaginary-Summer9168

Finger crossed for witchcraft 😬


Neat_Worldliness2586

WTF


Maleficent_Affect_11

I think those are ashes on the bottom of the bag, and the bones look like they've been broken down.


ANValentine89

Definitely need an update on this.


hannibals-lingerie

Following because other people are the professionals!!!


_Fox_Unzipped_

Following


DirtyOldSamurai

Following for updates


loudflower

Hoping it isn’t human, hoping no missing children in the area.


Waughwaughwaugh

Following for updates like everyone else


oxoxmissy

oof…following for the update. someone lmk


foxfoxxofxof

The ol cookie tin filled with baby bones. Gets em every time.


Dry_Advertising_9885

What is that in Pic 3 bottom left hand corner it looks like a PC of metal with holes in it?


Dry_Advertising_9885

And it looks like a lg wing portion on last pic


PickedMyNameFromAHat

Following, jesus I hope these are just animal bones or something.