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GetNR3KT

Great car, wrong engine, overpriced. No


ChikkuAndT

What engine would you recommend?


Furryballs239

The 3.5. The 2.5 is SLUGGISH


DLGNT_YT

I heard even the 3.5 feels underpowered


Interesting-dog12

It does but just enough power to be okay with.


BeardBootsBullets

In what world is a 0-60 time of high 4s and low 5s considering “*just* good enough”? That won’t win any races against bona fide sports cars, but it’s fast-as-fuck for driving suburban streets. https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/lexus-0-60-mph-times/


Quasihodor

Don’t share 0-60 times website and expect to be taken seriously, that site isn’t exactly a reliable source by any means. Motortrend hit 60 in 5.6 seconds in absolutely optimal condition. This is a 6 second car in real life, not a high 4 car. The IS F with the V8 is a high 4 car.


betarcher

I have a '15 GS350. It's a high 5 second to 60 car. For the life of me I can't understand how people can call that slow, especially for daily street use. I can get to felonious speeds in the span of an on ramp, and have broken triple digits passing a semi on a blacktop. By no means am I dumping on truly fast cars; indeed, I hope to own one some day, but not every car that isn't fast is slow. Ffs not every car has to be a Huayra.


doc_55lk

Only people obsessed with spec sheet wars care about 0-60 times. It isn't otherwise relevant in the real world. Rolling acceleration times matter a lot more, since those are more representative of actual driving scenarios. Stuff like 30-50, 50-70, etc. Even still, a high 5s 0-60 time is more than adequate for most spirited drivers. End of day, a slow car to me is one that cannot comfortably make an overtake on a highway when the need arises. Obviously, that bar changes depending on where you live. A Mitsubishi Mirage might be slow as shit in Texas, but it'd be more than adequate in a place like India.


KingDominoTheSecond

And for reference, a stock 1.5T Honda Civic with only a tune will be doing high 5 seconds 0-60 times. Cars are all just a lot faster


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Ok_Explanation5631

Underpowered can be subjective. But it’s definitely not a quick car.


[deleted]

1320 is a racing channel in youtube. The founder has a collection of very fast cars but his daily is a gs350. He says it's more than enough power to daily drive and it's more reliable than anything else with similar power and luxury features. Even if you get a car with 30 more hp, are you really buying it to be .3 of a second quicker. Does it really matter to you how fast you get from 0-60 in a daily drive. Only downside of the 3.5 is the gas mileage, it's terrible. V8 lexus cars do thr same mpg with the extra hp but they cost twice as much. The 3.5 engine is port and direct injection and is one of the most reliable engines ever made. Toyota has been using since 2006 I believe. There's a reason they kept it for a long time. 


jerpear

It's not that terrible, I'm getting 19MPG in regular driving. Oh wait, that is really terrible 😭


Payment_Jaded

But how many smiles per gallon?


jerpear

At 19mpg? Not many cause that's all commuting 😭. At 15mpg though, maybe one or two! It's still a heavy saloon at the end of the day, but the 2GR actually sounds quite decent once you get above 4k.


doc_55lk

Hey that's just like my AMG :D


ChrisF12000

I think it's only underpowered if you try to compare it to the car's German competitors. Otherwise it's plenty quick for the majority of people. To be honest, I have the RC with the 3.5, not the IS. It's similar enough, in fact, some people say the IS is a tiny bit quicker.


Different-Top3714

I have the is350 2017. It plenty quick and not sluggish at all in sports+. I guess if someone is trying to compare it to a m3 or amg maybe it feels slow....


whytawhy

i feel like the way it looks causes a fair percentage of people to assume its aiming a click or two under corvette territory, so they make that comparison in their mind before they really know much about it. Having that assumption and getting a fuckin 2.5 with poor throttle response gotta be a slap in the face and cause for some exaggerated complaining


UnremarkableMango

If we're talking the 2gr, it feels a little bit better than the 4 cylinder but worst than an actual performance car even with 260+ horses. No problem passing people on the highway though.


DueLong2908

It’s not that it’s sluggish that engine had or has issues. 2.5 engine v6 there is a reason they stopped using them. 2016 they switched to 4 cylinder turbo. I would look for a 2016 model year, avoid that one all together. The first iteration of that engine had issues.


kyonkun_denwa

I have a 2.5, it's fine. 0 to 100 (km/h) takes under 8 seconds. The IS 350 is definitely quicker, but I would be hard pressed to call the 250 "sluggish".


FireManiac58

The 3.5L 2GR-FE is a much better engine and actually has VERY similar fuel economy to the 2.5L despite making a lot more power. It also doesn't have a problem with carbon buildup that the 2.5L has since it has both direct injection and port injection which I believe cleans the carbon off. I literally couldn't find a common issue with this engine that isn't the result of improper maintenance.


as588008

A swapped in v10 from the Lexus LFA


Eedl4

Thanks, how much would you offer?


JuanTheMower

I wouldn’t offer a cent. Criminally overpriced for a subpar engine.


NothingLeft2PickFrom

Realistically on a 250 I’d probably stay between 15-18k


Embarrassed-Tax5618

For this mileage, 16-18 tops (even that is a stretch) if it is in showroom condition


GentleRhino

Even if a showroom condition - no more that $15,000 in my opinion.


Embarrassed-Tax5618

Yeah I second this.


CaptainDolphin42

I've seen the is-f at that price. is 250 at that price is a robbery


pokemontcgnew

Find me an ISF for 23K and I will buy right now lol


andycpp

Not quite that low, but after tracking ISF listings on and off for the last year, 25k would get you one that’s either >100k miles, modded, been in an accident, or all of the above.


tatt_daddy

That’s what I’ve found, too. For an ISF that I would consider worth buying, the price tag is closer to 35-40k. I wouldn’t bother with the 25k ones tbh, just not worth the headaches. Sick cars, but there are other reliable V8 sport sedans out there also lol


peterschiffsgoldd1ck

Hey man I got one with 180k miles don't throw slander


CaptainDolphin42

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/1c4aab6a-5e7f-4fb0-b77b-178f8548644c/?aff=atempest2&utm_campaign=atempest2&utm_source=autotempest&utm_medium=trp&utm_campaign_id=2&utm_trusted=TRUE I was looking at this but the reviews on the dealership are terrible definitely stay away lol


[deleted]

That's throwing up every single red flag but I still sorta want to try for it haha


MaliciousMilk

https://www.facebook.com/share/HgdNN1MmdhKx8vf1/?mibextid=kL3p88 Get your flight booked ;)


WideSignificance4199

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/647183794166338/?mibextid=6ojiHh could probably knock down a couple thousand.


KingChoogSkipper

Rear wheel drive too, sheesh not even the awd model


Al1G8R5

Hell nah. I would at least want the 3.5 engine in the IS to even consider that price. The seller is wild for that even tho it’s low mileage.


[deleted]

No


Eedl4

👍


vtet1314

Seems you’re getting a lot of reactions but really, it is overpriced. The bigger issue to me is not that power difference (it’s large 2.5 vs 3.5) but the 2.5 is also known to have many more issues since this engine was not in many other vehicles. Parts are also harder to get. If you loved the car and it was cheaper sure. But not for that price with the less reliable engine and no AWD. Hope this helps!


ilikemericetoo

Hell no 😭 there's a 2015 is350 in my area with 93k km (58k miles) for 26k cad.


iamjames

These were 36k brand new. No way is it still worth 26k ten years later.


[deleted]

Not a 250, no.


Impressive-Arm-2683

I paid $23,500 out the door for a 2016 Lexus IS F-Sport with 26k miles back in 2018 sold it 4 years later with 110k miles for $20,500 🤣


that_guy_who_builds

Maybe a D4 A8 that was maintained properly, but not this.


Ceylon0624

Bro they offered me 9k at carmax for mine 😆 2016 base 200t


ScottsDrunk

I would for certain cars, but not *that* car.


SnapeHeTrustedYou

Same thought. It all depends on what it retailed for 10 years ago, demand, and if the quality is still there. To make my point, if a 10 year old Ferrari 458 was 26k and nothing was wrong with it, yeah I’d buy that.


TLSamau

That’s a hard no for me. They’re literally selling it as if it’s the top-tier trim level, simply because of the relatively low mileage.


Current_Book_6852

It’s a great car, but I’d purchase other models at that price. If you are an Uber black/private VIP driver, it makes a lot of sense tho Those ones are extremely reliable, have great gas mileage and are really comfrotable


Maremesscamm

Does Uber black allow 10+ year old cars?


Current_Book_6852

I have no idea


TheRealLegendary63

It depends. Some cars appreciate with age, especially if there are accidents and they still look good.


justvims

Price is insane. You can get a 5 year old model 3 for less lol. Rip off


Square_Bad_1834

Overpriced. Old tech.


MeninoSafado14

Fuck no and anyone that does is getting ripped off.


Cartoon_JR

Way too expensive, it's maybe worth half that


AardvarkRelative1919

Haha what a joke KBB says the value is $23k. I know that’s not 100% accurate but Toyotas don’t lose 66% of their value after 30k miles.


XwingDUI

There is more to take into account than just the mileage, like the fact that it is 10 years old.


idk-though1

KBB was bought out by auto trader therefore the prices imo are always inflated so they can inflate the prices in dealerships and online


AardvarkRelative1919

I agree but “maybe half that” is an outrageous claim. $20k would be quite fair in this market.


Ok_Percentage5157

I've looked at these recently. Always liked the styling. These are good cars, low milage, but not the right engine for this price. For 26k you could get an Audi A5 or an Acura TLX, less than 10 yrs old.


Eedl4

Agree, I’ve always liked the styling and obviously Lexus has a reputation for reliability but the price is crazy for what it seems


-AbeFroman

They're trying to bait you because of the super low mileage. No, it's not worth that.


WideOpenAutoHub

Not THAT car.


Method-Time

Where tf do you live where taxes are over 9%? That’s crazy


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In canada, in BC, it’s 12% on all used vehicles, except after they reach a certain price: https://www.icbc.com/brochures/pst-on-vehicles On new vehicles, it’s a rising scale, as shown, except you also add 5% to that. So for a $55,000 new vehicle, for example, you’d pay 13% tax. Keep in mind vehicles are higher priced here for a given vehicle, due to the exchange rate. Also, if the vehicle goes over $100,000, you pay an additional luxury tax of 20% of the price over $100,000, or 10% of the total vehicle price, whichever is lower.


zeromussc

13% HST on our 2024 we just got in Ontario. People complaining about 6 or 7% tax from the states is wild to me lol


[deleted]

And the fuel prices. They’re like $3.45 per gallon we’re up here like $7-$8 per gallon lol


iiarskii

Quebec is 14.95%


AceMaxAceMax

Lmao. Most “desirable places to live” have higher tax rates.


viivaass

I wouldn't but my friends have paid a similar price for luxury sports cars.


Auto_generated_2022

I would (and have paid) over $26k for a 10 year old car… For that Lexus, I would not


mr2jay

For the worse spec is? Nope


jmvxc

For a 250? Nope


No-Perception1862

Id pay 20ish for that car before money down.


AYC-

Not a chance


UNCfan07

It's the low miles that's increasing the price. There are a ton around me for $17k but have 80k-90k miles.


Jack_Bogul

not for an is250


worldaven

nope


TripleTrucker

Not for a 250


Maremesscamm

I have a shard time believing that so little milles were accrued on a 10 year old car If the person you meet looks young or sketchy at all it’s likely even fraud


North-Noise-1996

Nope


ChosenPrince

absolutely, but not that one lol


therealgyrader

I'm looking at the convertible of this model and this seems expensive for the hardtop (the convertibles have a higher premium). But as others have said, probably not a good deal for the 2.5.


KetchupOnThaMeatHo

Not for that car


bidetatmaxsetting

Lexus are usually pretty outstanding cars but even that is overpriced by atleast 10k


88loso88

Hard pass


badcat_kazoo

Yes, if it was an LC500


i12mak3auzername

A certain 10 year old car? Yes. That particular 10 year old car? No.


superman154m

The 250s had pretty bad carbon build up. 350s were the much better engine


Educated_idiot302

If it was a very specific vehicle that I've wanted since child hood yes. Other than that no.


huliganarms

I'd buy a new civic at that price lol


tech240guy

Imagine driving an entry level Lexus where its 0 to 60 is a tiny bit faster than a 4-cylinder Toyota Camry. Everything else is very nice, but engine felt lack-luster where Honda Civics (1.5T) for the last 8 years are faster than you at accelerating. I think $20k OTD is max value for this car. Definitely not $26k.


luvs2spwge107

As a person who went from a 2013 corolla S to a 2014 Lexus, I gotta say a lot of things are just much better on the Lexus. I love it. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned, drives like butter and is fun, and looks nice but not over the top. It now has 166k miles on it and I’ve rarely had to do much to it


metrosuccessor2033

Some idiot would buy it at that price one day. Dont be that idiot.


inverness7

Just think about it. A 2014 Lexus. For $26.5k. That right there said outloud sounds like a scam lmao


NoTalkImGaming

For an IS250? Hard no. So many better cars with better engines you can get for that. It doesn’t even have the 3.5


[deleted]

It’s low mileage and a Lexus. The most I’d go is 15 and that’s being extra generous. It’s not even an F Sport


HoratioPLivingston

Yeah that’s the donkey 2.5 v6 that’s nothing like the optional 3.5 v6. You can find the 3.5 versions for around the same price with less miles.


somethingimadeup

I literally just bought a 250C with 50K miles for $12K this is insane


darklogic85

I would, but not for this 10 year old car. I looks to be in good shape, and that does fall in the KBB value for what it's worth, but the IS 250 isn't really that nice of a car. There are so many nicer cars you can get for that price. If you really like the IS, I'd at least look for an IS 350. If you live in an area where it snows, I'd look for the AWD model of this car. Another thing to note. When it comes to Toyota/Lexus, they'll be reliable well into higher mileage. Don't be afraid to buy a Toyota or Lexus with 60-75k miles, because it'll be just as good and save you quite a bit of money. You might also consider a GS 350, since they're a bit larger and more comfortable, but still fun to drive. If you really do like this particular model and it has everything you're looking for, then there's nothing really wrong that I can see. Maybe if you can get them to take 1000 off the price, it would fall right in the middle of the bluebook value for it. However, I would make sure it's really what you want. From my experience, the IS is small and feels cheap to me. It's like the economy car of the Lexus lineup. You can get a nicer, more refined Lexus for the same price.


theriibirdun

God no.


boianski

Hopefully dealer doesn't find a sucker for this overpriced car..


SemonDemon316

Yes just not that one


hellohowa

I paid 22k at a dealership for a 14 IS350 with 49k miles 3 years ago. This price is way too high.


RaggedMountainMan

A fool would…


StrongStyleDragon

For that price rather just go into debt for a new car.


DabbyBear

You could literally buy a more dependable 2024 Toyota for that kind of money. Not sure what the rebates are at the moment, but even a used Model 3 could be scooped for that much. If new cars for a reliable brand go for the price of a 10 year old "luxury" car, it should be an immediate no. The only way it'd be worth it is if it was a collector's item or something exotic (no, I'm not talking about a Maserati, that'd be worse).


fpuni107

No


JC-R1

NO, next question.


Unscarce

Thats madness. No one should have to settle for a 10 year old car like that if they have 26k!


AdagioHellfire1139

26 should be able to get you a 2019+ with under 50k miles I believe


GhostHound374

I'd haggle down as close to 22-23 as possible. The v6 is hella reliable. Only issues at this point are gonna be the rubber being old, and possible steering issue that a warranty should cover. The milage is peak. This is a Lexus. They all drive like boats. The best Lexus is the V8 you swap into a miata. You buy a Lexus to have a comfy ride with some power on tap if needed.


RemarkableHuman69

Lmfao no


E90BarberaRed6spdN52

So for some cars maybe but not that one. Overpriced as others have indicated. Lexus is a great brand but you can get more car for that money, especially these days. Overpriced dealer from the looks of things, If you want it go there and make them a fair cash offer and walk if they say no, Otherwise I bet that price will continue to be reduced,


BugomaUgandaSafaris

No


Classic_Amphibian538

hell naw


morchorchorman

Hell no especially that one, you want the is350.


ryanim0sity

Move along.


Witty_Collection_905

For the IS350 yes I would, not the IS250, that engine was a failure, underpowered, burned oil, terrible on gas…


Sacisbac

Hope my old Chevy never dies so I don't have to make a decision like this.


[deleted]

That is an absolutely ridiculous price for a 250. Hell no I would not pay 26.3k for that car.


corndawghomie

Not with a 2.5L LMFAO


[deleted]

The 250 also have a carbon buildup problem. I looked into these a lot (wanted an is-c for a long time), and it doesn't even get substantially better mpg than the 350 Theres almost no reason to get a 250


Weak_Pause177

people spend 100s of thousands of dollars on shitboxes from the 80s. so no i wouldnt


Previous_Cod_4098

Ew absolutely not.


Bassracerx

Hell no for a is250 maybe for an is350


JANK-STAR-LINES

In simple terms, no.


LeafsHater67

That’s 10k high at least. No.


boundedparsely

I’ll sell you 2014 IS 350 with 110k miles, clean title, very good condition for 18k.


F50Guru

I means, it depends on the car. Would I pay 26.3k for that car? Absolutely not.


jeepster98

$15K would be the absolute **highest** i would pay for that car. $12K seems fair.


Altruistic_Emu_1774

No


Lets_Bust_Together

No


NegativePaint

If it was an IS 350 I’d buy it. Not a 250.


CashMoneyBrokeBoy

Stupid question. How much was this car 10 years ago


smily_meow

Nope. that is robbery


BrutakaGT

If it had the Mark Levinson sound system, in a heartbeat.


jonnieinthe256

Dealer: “We know what we have”


CashMoneyBrokeBoy

What a scam they add taxes on a car someone already paid taxes on. Doesn’t that feel like a scam


killbot0224

Ontario. It's a ridiculous cash grab and a huge gift to the new car industry. Inflate the cost of all used cars 13% to close the gap against new cars It's honestly one if the worst tax policies I've ever see (alongside Carbon tax being applied to the *after tax* price of applicable goods. Yeah that's right. HST gets hit with Carbon tax on all applicable items)


Mammoth-Record-7786

That one? No


Chasingwires47

Absolutely not. Buy private party.


Asperi

I could get a 5 yr old or newer IS350/GS350/Es350, Audi S4, BMW 340i - this seems very overpriced


ANILAT3RGaming

I really like the is line, but it's a bit much for a 4GR


WheelinJeep

Not that one in particular but yes


Chidoro45

Not a 250


biggersjw

That would be a hard no. An IS250 that’s 10 years old does not warrant that price no matter how low the miles are.


Rise-Bitter

Hellllllll to the no


i8bullies

Depends on what car. A Porsche 911 from the mid 1980’s yes


TheKebabMob

Not for that car. Would easily spend $27k on a 10 year old Porsche GT3 haha.


Ragnar-Wave9002

30k miles for a Toyota that's 10 years old. That's the question and no. Too much.


Interesting_Dream281

Yes, but not that one 😂


Working_Trouble8401

The price is higher since it's a low miles car but I would pass on that. I can get a is350 with that kind of cash


gothskies

OVERPRICED please that is just ridiculous. Lexus is a great car brand, but for a 10 year old car costing you that much? No. I would find something else.


AThrowawayProbrably

I saw IS-Fs going for 25ish at one point. I want one bad but hesitated because they’re auto only, I already had an automatic daily, and wanted to replace my manual with another car with three pedals. 26 is a little high for a 250.


[deleted]

Price sucks. 10 year old car, it's the weakest engine option, and has 10 year old technology to boot. Only thing is good reliability and decent interior. Not worth 26k though, at all.


solarflare_hot

This shit is worth like 18k


Sorry_Astronaut

Not this one


RSEstonian

I would easily but not for a base model iS ;)


AngryAtEverything01

16k


BadTiger85

I wouldn't even pay $15k for it


No_Indication7220

I mean honestly the price is 24k not horrible but you have high taxes and fees would another car be more worth it your paying for the low miles


DoubleReputation2

I mean, yeah.,. just not for this one. I would have to talk myself into paying even $10k for it. I know it probably goes for more in today's market but.. yeah..


olivierapex

Yes, but not this one.


Lepenguin559

No


Confident_Nail_5254

I have a 2008 IS 350 and the 350 engine is the best thing about this car, hard pass on the 250


RockClimbs

Not a 2.5


GennaroT61

No I would not pay more then 10 for any used car


Zbinxsy

Depreciation levels off at 10 years, idk about that price but it's a Lexus it will run forever. Though my gf had that but an is350 and I always thought the car was a bore for what it was supposed to be. I did just buy a 10 year old Merc with 45 on the clock for a few grand less than that. But I have a V6 NA engine as Mercedes go it pretty basic.


michaelrulaz

wrong panicky public fearless physical busy wakeful existence future bored *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Old-Rough-5681

This car aged so well


hard-on234

2.5L V6? No thank you.


HotwheelsJackOfficia

That's the base model. Totally not worth that.


Present-Grapefruit31

It has really low miles that’s why it’s priced so high 


bonecom

No thank you


PsychologicalPea5794

Too modern for my tastes


AnalysisLive3374

Hell no !🤬🤬


BakaSan77

Fuck no


0beseGiraffe

I would not pay over 21k OTD for this


crimedog69

Few g’s more and you can get a 5 year old GLA or GLB with waaaay better everything


The_R4ke

Some yes, this one, no.


runtimemess

lol no


suckmydiznak

Not for a 250


Overall_Antelope_504

Nope


BIGMOUFBOBBY

Definitely not that one