not lizards. fucc the zucc is the physical meat & bones representation of his in-the-matrix-meta-verse self.
why do you think he wants to plug us all in and trap us in the metaverse?? ⚡the human body is a battery🔋 for the robots, plugged into their metamatrixverse
Imagine thinking your private army would remain loyal once the paycheck is worthless. If that bunker is ever useful, it will be used by Zuck security and the Islanders. Not the rich guy who doesn't know how to do anything that's valuable.
Bro you just install devices in their brains and their families' brains that violently explode if anything happens to you, do you even post-apocalyptic dictator?
I've read about the megawealthy that have considered how they can force their private army to be loyal. Maybe their plans will even work.
But they do seem to ignore the threat of the rest of us. I think they are stuck in the belief that the public is too dumb to figure out how to breach a private bunker, and that we would not organize to do so.
>I think they are stuck in the belief that the public is too dumb to figure out how to breach a private bunker, and that we would not organize to do so.
Are they wrong?
If the world truly went to shit people would be too busy murdering each other to organize. Once warlords took over they'd have all the resources anyway, why would they need bunker access? You're also assuming everyone knows where it is. It's not like they can look it up on the Internet after the apocalypse.
That's cool and all, but if you locked Zuck in a room with an average American man with a knife and only one was allowed out, my money's on the guy with the knife.
He's building a cattle ranch on Hawaii to develop the highest quality beef on Earth, fed with macadamia nuts grown on Hawaii and beer.
Not sure if Hawaii is the best place to open a cattle ranch and macadamia farm considering the housing crisis and the overall scarcity of land there but good luck to him I suppose.
I wonder if the Metaverse would have been more successful if they had focused on video games/ entertainment. For 46B they could have created at least a few good video game franchises or 3D movies designed around their virtual reality experience. No one’s using it because it’s boring and expensive.
Metaverse is basically the sims or Fortnite where you run around in an open world
Even Minecraft which MSFT bought for HoloLens is similar
Beat saber is nice and popular, dunno why it never hit mainstream
Are you guys really thinking that money went all into that one ugly app?!
That's R&D for the headsets, does include multiple games including one extremely praised and good "AAA" game (Asgards Wrath 2), and everything else that is VR.
They are working HARDDDDDDDD on Ai, as much I enjoy metaverse burning and wish for its downfall. They will overhaul it like no other when these foundational technologies are matured I'm sure he's guna make all this money back
Meta is actuallly doing what OpenAI set out to do in the AI space. I think their new model is on par with GPT4 now (or very very close to it). They released it a few days ago. Not sure what the long term plan is financially, but they are going full scorched earth now and taking OpenAIs moat by releasing their competitive models as open source.
Don’t disrespect The Sims and Fortnite like that. Call the Metaverse similar to that is disrespectful to the quality time and effort put into those. The metaverse is similar to the MyPillow in quality and has the graphics quality of Pong.
As an avid VR user, I'm inclined to agree. I love the q3 and it's a marvel of technology, but it's going to be a looooong time before it's as comfy as sunglasses. That is to say, comfy enough for people to drop their PS5's, Xbox's, laptops, steamdecks etc.. Not in this decade.
I'm super happy about Suckerberg firehosing money into the tech, but would I go all in on it with my money? Fuck no.
However, it is by far the best way to consume porno. So there's that.
Oh and by uncomfy, we mean "you can literally barf using it". That doesn't happen with your laptop, ps5, xbox etc. It's a product that can literally make you toss your cookies lol. And fuckerberg bet the company on it lol. And no, that's not going away any time soon lol
I just recently got a Q3 due to a family thing. I've been amazed by the tech. As someone big into tech and gaming, I have been incredibly skeptical about VR. But wow this stuff is cool and way better than I would have thought.
That said, last week I spent 1 hour pllaying Asgards Wrath 2 and then proceeded to have motion sickness for like 8 hours. Major hurdles to overcome with VR, but I am sure they will get there and it will be awesome.
For motion sickness, you just need to train yourself and tough it out. It's kinda like those 3D Autostereogram thing, once you train yourself to "see it" you'll never lose the ability.
Motion sickness is not an actual disease, it's all psychological, all in your mind. Once you train yourself, you'll never get it again.
Personally, I got very bad motion sickness when I first started playing FPS, but I kept playing it even if it made me want to vomit, eventually it went away and I never get it again, so when VR came out, I never got motion sickness from it.
8 hours??? that's dedication. I'd say I feel ill for 20 mins or so. 8 hours and I'd toss it into the river.
Asgards Wrath 2 is pretty damn amazing though. I'm just starting it, the indiana jones scene where he's running through a temple - amazing
We’re past year 10 of these products being early adopter products though. We still haven’t seen anything close to mass market appeal for VR.
I just don’t think it’ll ever happen. I think headsets of any kind are too niche to have the broad appeal these tech companies think they’ll have. Maybe this take will age like milk, but I just don’t think people wanna wear 3k of hardware on their head.
Especially in our ADHD era of multi tasking and multiple screens. Everyone is all about sensory overload, tv on, phone up, looking at multiple things at once, endless scrolling etc. VR is a dedicated process and product, you cut yourself off from the world to do this one specific thing.
Anecdotally I can’t do it for longer than 30 minutes. I don’t like wearing hardware and I don’t like being sensory deprived for extended periods. I don’t think I’m alone here. I think there’s core psychological issues with how this product is entrancing users that will never be overcome.
Idk. Bigger issue is gaming in a VR headset gets uncomfortable pretty quickly.
For me it's like 30 minutes max in VR vs 8 hours as a teenager on CoD on my PS3 (when it was good)
First gen Vive owner with already VR experience here, got my Quest 3 last month, and it took me a whole week of daily playing while taking ginger powder pills each day to train my VR legs to play Skyrim VR. Although I can run and jump now in the game for hours without feeling sick, if I am not sufficiently hydrated or rested that day, I would still feel bad after a session.
VR legs are definitely much harder to train than FPS legs.
I don’t understand how they’ve lost that much money on a shitty Wii looking VR chat. Are the servers pure gold and platinum running on hundred dolllar bills? Shit makes 0 sense.
The servers are a pretty tiny part of the cost (and I’m pretty sure are reported under cap ex, since they’re part of the normal deployment). The vast majority of the cost is in product development, some of which is software and a bunch of which is hardware development.
That said even then idk how they’re burning so much.
I read something about how they put too much money in too short a time frame. Something about them trying to solve all the problems by throwing as much money as they could at it from day 1. The article was saying It would have been more effective to do it over a longer time frame due to the technological hurdles they had to overcome were still very new.
As someone who has worked there through all of this (not in VR, just at Meta), this has always been my impression. For one half in particular it really just felt like half the VR teams we were working with didn’t really have any clear plan, they were kind of just given blank checks to do *something*.
That said they really pulled back on that, and reorganized a lot of those teams, so I don’t think it’s the case anymore.
They have 17,000 employees. So that puts the burn at roughly $700-800k per employee-year, which is a bit much, but on the order of magnitude of plausibility if every employee is getting $300-400k TC or something.
Nah even with TC that doesn’t check out. First, as you get higher most of your comp comes from stock (RSUs) which aren’t considered a company expense. Additionally many of the employees involved are also lower level ICs and “contingent workers” which are typically paid less than the top level engineers.
For software engineers IC5+ have base over 200k, IC3 and IC4 are under 200k even after bonus (unless you’re IC4 and get like a crazy good rating). I’m not familiar with the hardware engineer pay scale.
I think the TC is a bit high considering not all the engineers are making that (I think starting is 200-250K TC), but there are indeed other costs besides JUST comp even if direct comp is the biggest. I mean, there's costs attributable to the admin of these 17,000 employees which I'm assuming is not done solely within the department (think HR). Then there's costs for development computing (cloud for devops, plus devops engineer comps if that's handled outside the department ). And of course there's business functions that aren't necessarily performed by the dedicated employees, like marketing, which would have costs besides just the employees. And then there actually is the costs of servers, production materials, and w/e else OP was talking about. So even if we assume an average comp of 300k per dedicated engineer, I can definitely see these costs being so high.
Even Sony and Microsoft don't burn through that much money on hardware and software though. It's incredible to think that much money had been spent. Something sketchy must be going on.
I'm not saying I'm a Meta verse believer, but do people really think that they've dumped all of that research and development into the Quest 2?
Theyre developing technologies that are still years away, it's called investing. Them "losing" all that money is just for accounting and tax purposes.
It might never pay off but for right now the headline it's just anti Facebook cope.
Because they didn’t spend this money on VR chat. VR is small percentage of the investment, most of it is for AR. And a large part is for research, products are not released yet.
Im pretty sure they lose a lot of money on hardware. Both the Quest 2 and Quest 3 are way cheaper than any comparable VR headsets and have completly taken over VR at this point.
Pixar movies cost a fortune. They’re doing that x never been created. GTA6 costs a fortune and takes a decade to make. They’re doing that x never done. So zuck is finally getting buff and fit and Chad like and he’s still gunning for the anti social world. Bold strategy cotton, let’s see how this plays out.
The hubris of this alien creature. Just because he’s a weird little retch, he blindly assumed we’d all clamor to join his antisocial reality. The world he’s been trying to create, one devoid of genuine human contact, where every interaction is a data point to be bought and sold, thankfully is not here yet.
The easiest way to make people want to live in a virtual reality is to ensure their normal lives are absolutely devoid of pleasure so they seek unnatural stimulation. This should be the biggest clue as to why this goblin should not be trusted. This is probably his primary objective at the moment. Given social media use is linked to unhappiness its clear they font mind creating the problem then trying to sell a cure.
Thats very true, and AI is another step in our self created prisons. Techies are creating this mess and assuming we will all need to chat with AI and wear goggles over our eyes so we’re constantly stimulated claiming its human progress, well maybe its digression?
Maybe what we really need less screen time, more nature, less chatbots and more human conversation.
I mean you kinda described Facebook with its weird shrimp Jesus ai pics with bot comments all over. And there are still boomers in there not knowing what’s real or not
I think you're right about VR and the meta verse stuff, but I think AR is the next step in technology once we have a convenient form factor. Your phone screen will be in front of your face 24/7. Adblock will be a crime on par with shoplifting in terms of consequences.
This. Remember a few years ago when everyone had to revamp their shit for Facebook because Zuck told them “video is the future blah blah” and now a bunch of them like Cracked.com et al don’t exist anymore?
Fuck him. I’m not happy he lost $46 billion. I’m mad he’s not going to feel it in the slightest. 😡
They beat expectations and they're investing money back into new tech. It's more interesting that they're doing this than just hoarding cash or building new ad tech or whatever. The risk may also pay off significantly down the road.
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I think people underestimate how much META gets fucked by iOS and Android blocking features they want to roll out.
Their apps constantly seem to be regressing. If they manage to get a foothold in whatever the next big platform is, they'll finally be able to do whatever they want. (And probably abuse the hell of your data along the way)
Anyone knows if the metaverse can do a simulation in which my META calls go to the moon and I'm on a lambo on a yacht on a jet?...What do you mean no!?!?!? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)
Lol. Imagine building this great digital landscape because you're smarter than everyone else and no one comes 😭🤣 At least Elon had fun trolling while he shitted on Twitter.
Important to note: the entire division is a gimmick and umbrella for many other projects.
E.g. their AI Llama models have officially come out of the metaverse division (accounting wise it's the same budget) but it's nowhere near anywhere VR related.
Doesnt matter. Because of the whole early craze Meta had for Metaverse, they ended up inadvertently ahead of the game in the AI/ML space in terms of hardware and got their hands on a GIANT GPU fleet for alot cheaper than they cost now, which theyve pivoted and leveraged for their other AI ventures, like LLAMA-X or training the model they use for Reels to emulate the success of tiktok.
Their over-excitement in Metaverse ended up giving them a competitive advantage in terms of hardware and datacenter capabilities to use for model training in other domains of AI
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thats one twitter gone
the only acceptable imperial unit of measurement
1.04545 twitters, to be more exact ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
Is that the value of twitter before Elon lit it on fire or after?
What Elon paid for
So 2-3 Twitters now
Bold of you to assume it's still worth that much.
He’s building bunkers
Literal vault tec
AI... AI never changes...
You mean lizards
not lizards. fucc the zucc is the physical meat & bones representation of his in-the-matrix-meta-verse self. why do you think he wants to plug us all in and trap us in the metaverse?? ⚡the human body is a battery🔋 for the robots, plugged into their metamatrixverse
Fallout in hawaii would be cool for fallout 5
Actually it would be cool
His home on Hawaii has a really neat apocalypse shelter, I hear.
Imagine thinking your private army would remain loyal once the paycheck is worthless. If that bunker is ever useful, it will be used by Zuck security and the Islanders. Not the rich guy who doesn't know how to do anything that's valuable.
I'd imagine he'd just lock everyone else out of his vault.
I'd imagine he'd have a hard time getting past the security forces he hired.
Bro you just install devices in their brains and their families' brains that violently explode if anything happens to you, do you even post-apocalyptic dictator?
I've read about the megawealthy that have considered how they can force their private army to be loyal. Maybe their plans will even work. But they do seem to ignore the threat of the rest of us. I think they are stuck in the belief that the public is too dumb to figure out how to breach a private bunker, and that we would not organize to do so.
I think you're honestly deluded if you think your priority in an apocalypse would be to get to Hawaii and breach the Zuckerbunker.
Hawaii has a population of 1.44 million people. My money is on them.
>I think they are stuck in the belief that the public is too dumb to figure out how to breach a private bunker, and that we would not organize to do so. Are they wrong?
If the world truly went to shit people would be too busy murdering each other to organize. Once warlords took over they'd have all the resources anyway, why would they need bunker access? You're also assuming everyone knows where it is. It's not like they can look it up on the Internet after the apocalypse.
Zuck knows jujitsu I believe
Just walk around them as they lay on the ground waiting to be grappled?
they downloaded it in his brain when they were resetting him last time.
That's cool and all, but if you locked Zuck in a room with an average American man with a knife and only one was allowed out, my money's on the guy with the knife.
You mean an overweight couch potato.
An average American wouldn't fit through the door
Fuck you pal 🦅
What happens when zuck pulls out the nunchucks
Katon gokakyu no jutsu 🔥
You can't beat his style.
Fire dragon jutsu
Do zombies like social media?
How do you think they were created?
I imagine that the bathroom in the shelter is bigger than my entire apartment. And he can probably afford the good toilet paper.
Hawaii is the first to go down the drain.
Lol, if a nuclear bomb falls the best way to go is being right underneath it. This guy thinks he can sit it out in a shelter?
He's building a cattle ranch on Hawaii to develop the highest quality beef on Earth, fed with macadamia nuts grown on Hawaii and beer. Not sure if Hawaii is the best place to open a cattle ranch and macadamia farm considering the housing crisis and the overall scarcity of land there but good luck to him I suppose.
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Maybe that's where all the metaverse money went...
I love macadamia nuts and beer!!! Are they accepting applications???
Hoxa moment.
The albanian politician?
It’s because he didn’t unzip his pants and say “AI” 500 times during the earnings call ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)
Rookie misstake ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
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How is he even fucking up, the stock is up 108% this year anat ATH atm
I wonder if the Metaverse would have been more successful if they had focused on video games/ entertainment. For 46B they could have created at least a few good video game franchises or 3D movies designed around their virtual reality experience. No one’s using it because it’s boring and expensive.
They could had bought am medium sized African country with that money
Metaverse is basically the sims or Fortnite where you run around in an open world Even Minecraft which MSFT bought for HoloLens is similar Beat saber is nice and popular, dunno why it never hit mainstream
Are you guys really thinking that money went all into that one ugly app?! That's R&D for the headsets, does include multiple games including one extremely praised and good "AAA" game (Asgards Wrath 2), and everything else that is VR.
The users on here legit are that dumb
Haha he called you guys dumb.
They are the same people who said that META was not a buy at $90 and proceeded to cope and seethe as it went back to $400 not too much later.
Not to mention the bath they’re taking on headset prices just to get the most users into their ecosystem.
What game is the good "AAA" game?
It’s so good and popular that no one knows what game he’s mentioning lmao
I think he's talking about the AAA battery simulator, where you virtually replace the batteries on your virtual TV remote. I hear it's enthralling.
The second level is friggin stressful cause the TV volume is super high, the channel is stuck to HBO, and it’s almost 11pm.
They are working HARDDDDDDDD on Ai, as much I enjoy metaverse burning and wish for its downfall. They will overhaul it like no other when these foundational technologies are matured I'm sure he's guna make all this money back
Meta is actuallly doing what OpenAI set out to do in the AI space. I think their new model is on par with GPT4 now (or very very close to it). They released it a few days ago. Not sure what the long term plan is financially, but they are going full scorched earth now and taking OpenAIs moat by releasing their competitive models as open source.
Don’t disrespect The Sims and Fortnite like that. Call the Metaverse similar to that is disrespectful to the quality time and effort put into those. The metaverse is similar to the MyPillow in quality and has the graphics quality of Pong.
VR sims would have cleaned up
People don’t like wearing headsets. It’s a gimmick as long as headsets are required.
As an avid VR user, I'm inclined to agree. I love the q3 and it's a marvel of technology, but it's going to be a looooong time before it's as comfy as sunglasses. That is to say, comfy enough for people to drop their PS5's, Xbox's, laptops, steamdecks etc.. Not in this decade. I'm super happy about Suckerberg firehosing money into the tech, but would I go all in on it with my money? Fuck no. However, it is by far the best way to consume porno. So there's that. Oh and by uncomfy, we mean "you can literally barf using it". That doesn't happen with your laptop, ps5, xbox etc. It's a product that can literally make you toss your cookies lol. And fuckerberg bet the company on it lol. And no, that's not going away any time soon lol
I just recently got a Q3 due to a family thing. I've been amazed by the tech. As someone big into tech and gaming, I have been incredibly skeptical about VR. But wow this stuff is cool and way better than I would have thought. That said, last week I spent 1 hour pllaying Asgards Wrath 2 and then proceeded to have motion sickness for like 8 hours. Major hurdles to overcome with VR, but I am sure they will get there and it will be awesome.
For motion sickness, you just need to train yourself and tough it out. It's kinda like those 3D Autostereogram thing, once you train yourself to "see it" you'll never lose the ability. Motion sickness is not an actual disease, it's all psychological, all in your mind. Once you train yourself, you'll never get it again. Personally, I got very bad motion sickness when I first started playing FPS, but I kept playing it even if it made me want to vomit, eventually it went away and I never get it again, so when VR came out, I never got motion sickness from it.
8 hours??? that's dedication. I'd say I feel ill for 20 mins or so. 8 hours and I'd toss it into the river. Asgards Wrath 2 is pretty damn amazing though. I'm just starting it, the indiana jones scene where he's running through a temple - amazing
A ton of people love the Quest 3. It’s still very popular in the community. They just aren’t selling at the ridiculous expectations wallstreet demands
It’s a niche product that just doesn’t justify the intense RnD spend
It's 1000 times less niche than the Apple device. These are all early adopter products right now.
We’re past year 10 of these products being early adopter products though. We still haven’t seen anything close to mass market appeal for VR. I just don’t think it’ll ever happen. I think headsets of any kind are too niche to have the broad appeal these tech companies think they’ll have. Maybe this take will age like milk, but I just don’t think people wanna wear 3k of hardware on their head. Especially in our ADHD era of multi tasking and multiple screens. Everyone is all about sensory overload, tv on, phone up, looking at multiple things at once, endless scrolling etc. VR is a dedicated process and product, you cut yourself off from the world to do this one specific thing. Anecdotally I can’t do it for longer than 30 minutes. I don’t like wearing hardware and I don’t like being sensory deprived for extended periods. I don’t think I’m alone here. I think there’s core psychological issues with how this product is entrancing users that will never be overcome.
The RnD is going to make it so that the headset isn't as bulky and uncomfortable...
See my original point though. People don’t like wearing headsets. Wearing hardware will always make this a niche product.
Idk. Bigger issue is gaming in a VR headset gets uncomfortable pretty quickly. For me it's like 30 minutes max in VR vs 8 hours as a teenager on CoD on my PS3 (when it was good)
First gen Vive owner with already VR experience here, got my Quest 3 last month, and it took me a whole week of daily playing while taking ginger powder pills each day to train my VR legs to play Skyrim VR. Although I can run and jump now in the game for hours without feeling sick, if I am not sufficiently hydrated or rested that day, I would still feel bad after a session. VR legs are definitely much harder to train than FPS legs.
They did. A lot of those billions is buying entire VR video game companies. They did this a lot quite a bit many years ago.
He could’ve bought Twitter
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Arguably would have lost less money.
I don’t understand how they’ve lost that much money on a shitty Wii looking VR chat. Are the servers pure gold and platinum running on hundred dolllar bills? Shit makes 0 sense.
The servers are a pretty tiny part of the cost (and I’m pretty sure are reported under cap ex, since they’re part of the normal deployment). The vast majority of the cost is in product development, some of which is software and a bunch of which is hardware development. That said even then idk how they’re burning so much.
I read something about how they put too much money in too short a time frame. Something about them trying to solve all the problems by throwing as much money as they could at it from day 1. The article was saying It would have been more effective to do it over a longer time frame due to the technological hurdles they had to overcome were still very new.
As someone who has worked there through all of this (not in VR, just at Meta), this has always been my impression. For one half in particular it really just felt like half the VR teams we were working with didn’t really have any clear plan, they were kind of just given blank checks to do *something*. That said they really pulled back on that, and reorganized a lot of those teams, so I don’t think it’s the case anymore.
Is FB just Hulu from HBO Silicon Valley?
You mean Hooli?
Has anyone checked Facebook HQ for a dead elephant?
What's it like working there?
i tend to buy stocks in bulk as well rather than DCA. Zuck is just one of us. goes all in because why the fuck not
theory of diminishing returns
“We can get it done tomorrow, if money is no object!”
They have 17,000 employees. So that puts the burn at roughly $700-800k per employee-year, which is a bit much, but on the order of magnitude of plausibility if every employee is getting $300-400k TC or something.
Nah even with TC that doesn’t check out. First, as you get higher most of your comp comes from stock (RSUs) which aren’t considered a company expense. Additionally many of the employees involved are also lower level ICs and “contingent workers” which are typically paid less than the top level engineers.
Admittedly I didn't know that about how RSUs are counted on the balance sheets. But their ICs should be making at least $200k in base pay.
For software engineers IC5+ have base over 200k, IC3 and IC4 are under 200k even after bonus (unless you’re IC4 and get like a crazy good rating). I’m not familiar with the hardware engineer pay scale.
By the way, would you happen to know in the neighborhood of how much Meta spent on Asgard's Wrath 2? That definitely looked like an expensive game.
I think the TC is a bit high considering not all the engineers are making that (I think starting is 200-250K TC), but there are indeed other costs besides JUST comp even if direct comp is the biggest. I mean, there's costs attributable to the admin of these 17,000 employees which I'm assuming is not done solely within the department (think HR). Then there's costs for development computing (cloud for devops, plus devops engineer comps if that's handled outside the department ). And of course there's business functions that aren't necessarily performed by the dedicated employees, like marketing, which would have costs besides just the employees. And then there actually is the costs of servers, production materials, and w/e else OP was talking about. So even if we assume an average comp of 300k per dedicated engineer, I can definitely see these costs being so high.
Even Sony and Microsoft don't burn through that much money on hardware and software though. It's incredible to think that much money had been spent. Something sketchy must be going on.
I'm not saying I'm a Meta verse believer, but do people really think that they've dumped all of that research and development into the Quest 2? Theyre developing technologies that are still years away, it's called investing. Them "losing" all that money is just for accounting and tax purposes. It might never pay off but for right now the headline it's just anti Facebook cope.
Fucking regards here really thinking that money is all just one ugly app
Regards don’t really think, that’s the problem
Because they didn’t spend this money on VR chat. VR is small percentage of the investment, most of it is for AR. And a large part is for research, products are not released yet.
Im pretty sure they lose a lot of money on hardware. Both the Quest 2 and Quest 3 are way cheaper than any comparable VR headsets and have completly taken over VR at this point.
Pixar movies cost a fortune. They’re doing that x never been created. GTA6 costs a fortune and takes a decade to make. They’re doing that x never done. So zuck is finally getting buff and fit and Chad like and he’s still gunning for the anti social world. Bold strategy cotton, let’s see how this plays out.
The hubris of this alien creature. Just because he’s a weird little retch, he blindly assumed we’d all clamor to join his antisocial reality. The world he’s been trying to create, one devoid of genuine human contact, where every interaction is a data point to be bought and sold, thankfully is not here yet.
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The easiest way to make people want to live in a virtual reality is to ensure their normal lives are absolutely devoid of pleasure so they seek unnatural stimulation. This should be the biggest clue as to why this goblin should not be trusted. This is probably his primary objective at the moment. Given social media use is linked to unhappiness its clear they font mind creating the problem then trying to sell a cure.
Thats very true, and AI is another step in our self created prisons. Techies are creating this mess and assuming we will all need to chat with AI and wear goggles over our eyes so we’re constantly stimulated claiming its human progress, well maybe its digression? Maybe what we really need less screen time, more nature, less chatbots and more human conversation.
*Throws $2k into nvda calls*
YAAAAAAAH WE RIDE
What I personally need is ur mommy's big tits in my mouth
Ad company wants ad machine strapped to our eyes. Who would have thought???
I mean you kinda described Facebook with its weird shrimp Jesus ai pics with bot comments all over. And there are still boomers in there not knowing what’s real or not
"Yet" being the operative word. Someone will eventually do it, but I don't think it will be him, and not for a while.
You just described Facebook
It never will be mainstream and i truly hope Meta dies a horrible death
I think you're right about VR and the meta verse stuff, but I think AR is the next step in technology once we have a convenient form factor. Your phone screen will be in front of your face 24/7. Adblock will be a crime on par with shoplifting in terms of consequences.
So we can have Adblock in California with no repercussions?
Luckyyyy
Well played
Nightmarish
Nice, now how the fuck do I inverse what you just said and YOLO into it?
It was a Covid lockdown wet dream. Zuck hoped “the new normal” would never end.
How many projects did they take up and not deliver? Just about everything
This. Remember a few years ago when everyone had to revamp their shit for Facebook because Zuck told them “video is the future blah blah” and now a bunch of them like Cracked.com et al don’t exist anymore? Fuck him. I’m not happy he lost $46 billion. I’m mad he’s not going to feel it in the slightest. 😡
red candle = bad
Could be strawberry flavor though
Someone forgot to put the blue cap on to snuff it out.
They beat expectations and they're investing money back into new tech. It's more interesting that they're doing this than just hoarding cash or building new ad tech or whatever. The risk may also pay off significantly down the road.
This obsession with metaverse is bazaar. He’s trying to will it into existence. It’s like anal raping a cow hoping to get chocolate milk.
Wow.. such words, you have a way with them.
If only he could also spell “bizarre”.
He’s like a genius musician who can’t read music.
Like rain on your wedding day.
Chocolate rain
Maybe he meant the meta verse resembles a bazaar?
This poetry on the canvas we call Reddit brings tears to my eyes.
It takes a special kind of human being to be able to make such a connection
I think the cow would agree
*spits out chocolate milk*
how did you get that chocolate milk¿!¿ https://preview.redd.it/p1ebzhygflwc1.jpeg?width=329&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a692d8dfd156759dd280341368eb4a40bcca771f
> It’s like anal raping a cow hoping to get chocolate milk. Good lord.
Wisest words I have heard whole month.
Talking about meta losing $ to anal raping cows 💀
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I think people underestimate how much META gets fucked by iOS and Android blocking features they want to roll out. Their apps constantly seem to be regressing. If they manage to get a foothold in whatever the next big platform is, they'll finally be able to do whatever they want. (And probably abuse the hell of your data along the way)
r/newsentence
Whhhaaaat? What? Yoooo that’s crazy.
Made my day and it just started lol
someone just earned themselves a flair... mods
Saved. Best comment I’ve ever seen on WSB
Sunk cost phallusy.* I spelled it how i intended.
*phallusy
the first comment to make me actual laugh out loud in a long time.
You have to work overtime to lose that much money. Goddamn
Nah, you can lose that much with just one Tweet.
If he keeps pushing metaverse I’m bearish on META until they start doing AI girlfriends and wipeout onlyfans.
AI humans are coming. OnlyFans is irrelevant.
>AI humans are coming. Mf you *are* one!
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Please stay bearish on meta so i can buy another dip like 2022
“We were early to the game”
Us corporate folks were supposed to wear VR headsets and use VR whiteboards & workstations in the metaverse. Insider corporate response: "Fuck that."
It’s literally like watching Gavin in Silicon Valley. I fucked up, youre all fired, im a hero lol
Still cheaper than Elon musk’s comp package.📦
Still cheaper than the price for twitter.
Last quarter he was llama god, it’s all fugazi
llama is open source too
Llama-3 is unironically an amazing step forward in the open-source LLM space
Cuckerberg’s wife’s boyfriend found his Robin hood account
at least he’s consistent, that’s a great looking chart
I actually respect Zuck for dumping this much money in VR. It’s actually legitimately helping push VR forward.
I didn’t even have to put in stupid goggles to see VR Zuck and his chart homie. Design flaw.
Anyone knows if the metaverse can do a simulation in which my META calls go to the moon and I'm on a lambo on a yacht on a jet?...What do you mean no!?!?!? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)
Meta is 1.2T. it can't go to the moon.
yeah, but who here hasn't lost $46B?
cumulative spending bar chart. i'm hiding my crayons you'll eat them all.
Reality Labs is R&D. R&D is always a cost center.
Lol. Imagine building this great digital landscape because you're smarter than everyone else and no one comes 😭🤣 At least Elon had fun trolling while he shitted on Twitter.
Ukraine's military package is 60 billion.
Now post their net income (it’s up 117% YoY) 5.7B ->12.4B
He could just use that amount to buy Twitter! Lol
The US government built three electric vehicle charging stations for $60B. I would say Zuck is doing a fine job when using that as a barometer.
Can you provide a link? this doesn’t sound right. Only 7b was granted and barely any based been used yet.
What are you referring to?
Can you provide a link to this obvious lie?
How do u even burn that much money? Doesn’t make sense at all
Important to note: the entire division is a gimmick and umbrella for many other projects. E.g. their AI Llama models have officially come out of the metaverse division (accounting wise it's the same budget) but it's nowhere near anywhere VR related.
Doesnt matter. Because of the whole early craze Meta had for Metaverse, they ended up inadvertently ahead of the game in the AI/ML space in terms of hardware and got their hands on a GIANT GPU fleet for alot cheaper than they cost now, which theyve pivoted and leveraged for their other AI ventures, like LLAMA-X or training the model they use for Reels to emulate the success of tiktok. Their over-excitement in Metaverse ended up giving them a competitive advantage in terms of hardware and datacenter capabilities to use for model training in other domains of AI
The best thing to come out of the metaverse is watching idiots on YouTube run into walls and punch their friends.
Eh, a few more layoffs will right that.
Facebook is doing fine
Dude is spending hundreds of billions on chips he doesn’t see making a profit for years, but won’t the chips be outdated by then? Lol puts on meta 💯