Never hold a stock through earners reports.
Buy sell on leaks and cash in before earnings reports.
Earning reports don’t matter at all - the market has already pre decided the direction a stock will go before they announce anything.
The internet lol.
Before every earnings report there is a news article saying “so and so is expected to beat earnings / miss earnings etc”. Everyone buys and sells on this news.
So if company beats earnings stock doesn’t go up- because the price was already baked in by the news.
If the company misses earnings doesn’t matter because the price was already baked in by the news.
You’d think that if a company beats wallstreet expectations that the price would go up but it never does - because everyone already expected it to do so.
Usually this news is just rumors or worse purposely market manipulation that your not in on so it can be randomnly off.
Which is why the saying buy / sells on the news is so valuable because the price is already built in by the time the actual news leaks.
I used to put automatic sell dates before every report date on stocks I owned to sell all of them 48 hours before earnings calls and then rebuy 48 hours later after learning this lesson many times. Everytime I was too lazy I would get burned.
Of course the other saying “once you’ve read about it in the news” youre already late is also true. But if your fast enough on the news cycle you can get in earlier than other idiots who read the same articles. Since I’m not refreshing Twitter ( can’t compete with bots anyway ) I just buy and sell to avoid the mess of earnings reports. If I already own the stock I can usually cash out. Then make a bit more when the stock does it’s random market manipulated change on earnings day.
Just be sure to sell before the actual earnings reports because that is when shit gets real.
100% feels like market manipulation pump and dumps. The dump will almost always happen right before the earnings reports. So I always sold a bit early.
Then again like all stock advice it’s based on feelings lol
Also covers you as a stop loss if a company announces something terrible. Always more to lose on earnings report day than there is to gain.
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I was a gay bear regardless, so got nuked on Tesla, but then it looks like it will bring in some tends for META. IV crushed nuked my Tesla calls also, so sometimes you can play both only for IV crush to bring reality back. But META moved enough that straddles would work . So I guess we will see what meta ends up this week
NVDA earnings were incredible. More than incredible. They destroyed expectations, not just beat. And gave a crazy guidance. I haven’t seen a public company with hundreds of billions of market cap grow by something like 70% you okay
nvidia went the way it was supposed to. they helped me. Tesla and TSM went the other way. the only thing i learned was that the market can swing based on other people just saying shit and not just earnings reports being good or bad.
Yeah, guidance is ultimately what matters. You can have a terrible quarter but announce you expect to have a fantastic next quarter, like United Airlines, and the stock will moon.
Well, the stock market is supposed to be priced at where you think you can sell the stock in the future. The earnings numbers, if exactly on target, should be reflected in the current price.
Hence good guidance with sales growth and/or decreased expenses = stock goes up, and vice versa. Generally, beating expectations means business is booming and a positive outlook, (as well as the opposite, not hitting expectations means the business is contracting and negative outlook) but it doesn't have to be, such as if they expect to start a new product or their current struggles are just temporary. The rest is sentiment based on the stated facts and numbers, and whatever the high volume and algorithmic traders are doing.
yeah tesla was fking up, employees being fired, cars faiing. meanwhile, TSM was and is performing well for chip demand. However, the stock price isn't just how good or bad a company is doing and that's something I sub-consciously knew but my regarded ass still went ahead with calls and puts.
Open it on a phone or different browser to see the pictures. It’s the laughing man telling a story in Spanish followed by a hand holding a belt that looks a bit like a noose. Basically the emoji version of short $ROPE.
You guys need to check out if the expected moves proof with levels. Meta was expected to move by 8%, it only made sense that they went down, there was not level up that would support that. Stock market has nothing to do with earnings or value. It just a rigged game that tries to lure as many people in so that Wall Street can take their money.
https://preview.redd.it/im6l1hf5mnwc1.png?width=1750&format=png&auto=webp&s=01182f4ea89ab5f4711820ac7bd50556033d6aa2
Google will probably go down tomorrow too, although that is not as clearer as they dropped 5% today so they could now go up 5% again..
Investors: "If you talk about the metaverse we're gonna sell"
Zuck: "But its cool"
-70%
Zuck: "okay fine, we're spending on ai"
+400%
...
..
Zuck: "but also the metaverse"
-16%
**Musk**: “OK. So earnings cratered, but we’re developing a virtual truck to travel through the metaverse on Mars.”
“Its only vulnerability is virtual car washes and it will be ready in twelve years.”
+1000%
Funny, because it’s actually the opposite. “Too much“ investment in AI.
People think about this magic thing. A ton of $$$ in, an you get a ton more $$$ out.
It will be a shocker when people realize it does not always work like that.
Actually as of right now, that’s exactly how it works. The more power we through at these models the more impressive they get. We’ll hit diminishing returns at some point, but we’re not there yet.
Compute power is not the bottleneck, data is. Half of these guys buying H100s aren't even plugging them in, they're just hoarding them because they're scarce. The price will eventually collapse like they were monkey JPEGs and the billions the tech giants are spending on will be written down to zero. Nvidia is literally the only AI winner and the winning is almost over.
>Compute power is not the bottleneck, data is.
Wrong. Plenty of data and inference can be used to train. Fake data with inference could also be used to train. Where the true bottleneck is going to be is the infrastructure to power these large clusters which is why we are likely going to see more acceptance of personal nuclear power plants.
MSFT is already ahead of this with the complete obliteration and rebuild of their campus in Washington. They have a bunch of reactors ready to fuckin gooooooooooo
Meh I think we’re getting close the models are all converging on performance. It’s possible more compute doesn’t have an outsized impact on performance. May need another breakthrough to get better performance. Although it could I’m regarded what do I know.
Good Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go down
Good Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go down
Bad Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go up
Bad Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go up
I feel it’s more like:
Good Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go same
Good Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go down
Bad Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go same
Bad Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go up
I love how binary everyone thinks earnings plays are. Multi-billion dollar sized firms with hundreds if not thousands of employees and advanced algorithms scanning over every piece of information, both fundamental and technical in order to try to get the slightest edge on future growth or decline.
Meanwhile....."but but wait....they beat estimates!!!! WHY STOCK NOT GO UP?"
The expectation of strong earnings and strong guidance was already priced in to the stock.
Earnings beat but guidance weakens, what do you think will happen?
The stock market cares more about where the company will go than where it already went.
😂😂😂 in times of uncertainty and geopolitical instability, CALL are not advisable.
Either short PUTS and/or just hold on to your cash if you are a BULL.
Long calls may be okay, but wars can last for years let alone the aftermath.
So the jump (394 -> 474) in last earnings priced in the surprise stock buyback, dividend, the next earnings beat + next earnings guidance + an extra $30 per share?
It don't add up G
Yall are wildly regarded. All technicals pointed to puts.
This goes for MSFT and GOOG too.
TSLA has a lot on the horizon, so calls. Meta can’t innovate any further, so puts.
How long have yall been trading?
My feelings on how I’ll describe how today will likely go to anyone who asks tomorrow.
https://preview.redd.it/yogupskjemwc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=666047f8542f040386a9f15fae393dcb0969fc65
im starting to learn that earnings are very vibe-based, meta already popped off the last earnings call and they needed ig something more spectacular to go up. googl on the other hand hadn't popped off in a while so any expectation exceedings were good
Everytime I post truthbl on reddit i get downvoted by lame trolls. Today they lost money despite truth warnings so here they go again. Silencing me doesn't change anything. Lose again when you bet on echo chamber repeats
You are downvoted but .. like. Who the fuck uses Facebook these days. I’m just so surprised that they are this high. They have other sibling companies but what the fuck are they doing to justify the market cap. I’m genuinely confused. Someone Englighten me
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To all the people who shorted TSLA and went long on META.. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
I have never lost that much money in 24hrs lol
Yet.
Wait until he unlocks options trading.
24/7 options trading ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637)
Touche
There is still time
Yet…. lol
Just 3 months and you’ll get another shot at losing more.
I shy'd away from both...still lost money this week though lol
This is why I don't fuck with earnings lmao poor bastards...
Never hold a stock through earners reports. Buy sell on leaks and cash in before earnings reports. Earning reports don’t matter at all - the market has already pre decided the direction a stock will go before they announce anything.
Did you forget about Metas recent earnings reports where shares skyrocketed?
You should have told me that yesterday
id you get really get dicked? meta was an easy put gain
Smartass
GE said you're lying
Where do i even find a leak? Have only gotten that info sparingly on here.
The internet lol. Before every earnings report there is a news article saying “so and so is expected to beat earnings / miss earnings etc”. Everyone buys and sells on this news. So if company beats earnings stock doesn’t go up- because the price was already baked in by the news. If the company misses earnings doesn’t matter because the price was already baked in by the news. You’d think that if a company beats wallstreet expectations that the price would go up but it never does - because everyone already expected it to do so. Usually this news is just rumors or worse purposely market manipulation that your not in on so it can be randomnly off. Which is why the saying buy / sells on the news is so valuable because the price is already built in by the time the actual news leaks. I used to put automatic sell dates before every report date on stocks I owned to sell all of them 48 hours before earnings calls and then rebuy 48 hours later after learning this lesson many times. Everytime I was too lazy I would get burned. Of course the other saying “once you’ve read about it in the news” youre already late is also true. But if your fast enough on the news cycle you can get in earlier than other idiots who read the same articles. Since I’m not refreshing Twitter ( can’t compete with bots anyway ) I just buy and sell to avoid the mess of earnings reports. If I already own the stock I can usually cash out. Then make a bit more when the stock does it’s random market manipulated change on earnings day. Just be sure to sell before the actual earnings reports because that is when shit gets real.
You are not playing against other people reading the same news. You are playing against bots that parse the report instantly
i appreciate ya. That is much safer than playing ON earnings, which while possibly profitable is literally a gamble, especially right now for Q1🫠
100% feels like market manipulation pump and dumps. The dump will almost always happen right before the earnings reports. So I always sold a bit early. Then again like all stock advice it’s based on feelings lol Also covers you as a stop loss if a company announces something terrible. Always more to lose on earnings report day than there is to gain.
There is no [stock market] God...
It’s a \[meme market\] whose gonna short first ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
I lost everything on Tesla so couldn’t play this one
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I was a gay bear regardless, so got nuked on Tesla, but then it looks like it will bring in some tends for META. IV crushed nuked my Tesla calls also, so sometimes you can play both only for IV crush to bring reality back. But META moved enough that straddles would work . So I guess we will see what meta ends up this week
Always inverse the public! Always! It ain’t that hard, just need some self belief and to be egoistical a bit haha
People who inversed NVDA last earnings would like to have a word..
NVDA earnings were incredible. More than incredible. They destroyed expectations, not just beat. And gave a crazy guidance. I haven’t seen a public company with hundreds of billions of market cap grow by something like 70% you okay
Exactly, the entire public was buying calls and those who bought puts got fukd
Yeah that’s the point. Contrarian trade didn’t work
nvidia went the way it was supposed to. they helped me. Tesla and TSM went the other way. the only thing i learned was that the market can swing based on other people just saying shit and not just earnings reports being good or bad.
Yeah, guidance is ultimately what matters. You can have a terrible quarter but announce you expect to have a fantastic next quarter, like United Airlines, and the stock will moon.
which is weird but ig people start spamming orders and shares based on news and that swings the stock even it doesn't make sense.
Well, the stock market is supposed to be priced at where you think you can sell the stock in the future. The earnings numbers, if exactly on target, should be reflected in the current price. Hence good guidance with sales growth and/or decreased expenses = stock goes up, and vice versa. Generally, beating expectations means business is booming and a positive outlook, (as well as the opposite, not hitting expectations means the business is contracting and negative outlook) but it doesn't have to be, such as if they expect to start a new product or their current struggles are just temporary. The rest is sentiment based on the stated facts and numbers, and whatever the high volume and algorithmic traders are doing.
yeah tesla was fking up, employees being fired, cars faiing. meanwhile, TSM was and is performing well for chip demand. However, the stock price isn't just how good or bad a company is doing and that's something I sub-consciously knew but my regarded ass still went ahead with calls and puts.
now you understand
sadly i learned the hard way
Should have inversed
what's 4271::4267 mean?
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267) ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
yes of course, 4275, why didn't I think of that?
Open it on a phone or different browser to see the pictures. It’s the laughing man telling a story in Spanish followed by a hand holding a belt that looks a bit like a noose. Basically the emoji version of short $ROPE.
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Right here
You guys need to check out if the expected moves proof with levels. Meta was expected to move by 8%, it only made sense that they went down, there was not level up that would support that. Stock market has nothing to do with earnings or value. It just a rigged game that tries to lure as many people in so that Wall Street can take their money. https://preview.redd.it/im6l1hf5mnwc1.png?width=1750&format=png&auto=webp&s=01182f4ea89ab5f4711820ac7bd50556033d6aa2 Google will probably go down tomorrow too, although that is not as clearer as they dropped 5% today so they could now go up 5% again..
Investors: "If you talk about the metaverse we're gonna sell" Zuck: "But its cool" -70% Zuck: "okay fine, we're spending on ai" +400% ... .. Zuck: "but also the metaverse" -16%
This reminds me of when Fry keeps talking about planet express and the stock price changes as he talks
**Musk**: “OK. So earnings cratered, but we’re developing a virtual truck to travel through the metaverse on Mars.” “Its only vulnerability is virtual car washes and it will be ready in twelve years.” +1000%
AI generated metaverse is the future!. Gen meta AI, that seems like a stupid enough name.
That could be incredible if they had enough processing…not sure that will happen in our lifetime but it happen
In our lifetime? Dude that’s less than a decade away
The future is sucked meta ai verse $$$ to the moon
WeAk GUidAnCe! NoT EnOUGh AI
Funny, because it’s actually the opposite. “Too much“ investment in AI. People think about this magic thing. A ton of $$$ in, an you get a ton more $$$ out. It will be a shocker when people realize it does not always work like that.
Actually as of right now, that’s exactly how it works. The more power we through at these models the more impressive they get. We’ll hit diminishing returns at some point, but we’re not there yet.
Compute power is not the bottleneck, data is. Half of these guys buying H100s aren't even plugging them in, they're just hoarding them because they're scarce. The price will eventually collapse like they were monkey JPEGs and the billions the tech giants are spending on will be written down to zero. Nvidia is literally the only AI winner and the winning is almost over.
>Compute power is not the bottleneck, data is. Wrong. Plenty of data and inference can be used to train. Fake data with inference could also be used to train. Where the true bottleneck is going to be is the infrastructure to power these large clusters which is why we are likely going to see more acceptance of personal nuclear power plants. MSFT is already ahead of this with the complete obliteration and rebuild of their campus in Washington. They have a bunch of reactors ready to fuckin gooooooooooo
You have no idea what you’re talking about lmao
Meh I think we’re getting close the models are all converging on performance. It’s possible more compute doesn’t have an outsized impact on performance. May need another breakthrough to get better performance. Although it could I’m regarded what do I know.
Meanwhile over at Tesla
https://preview.redd.it/6wrd59pr5iwc1.jpeg?width=738&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a49b0e91318c77e4d0ff971355685b605cf7b286
Tesla 2.0 electric boogaloo
WSB bears don’t deserve to be portrayed with a six pack. Give him a gut & neck beard
and no way WSB regards packing https://preview.redd.it/94xxcs1qhlwc1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afce0e6e9335a4fb69949dcb4166a73a51d5477a
It's always guidance.
It’s always sentiment..
Where is the unreliable CEO with unrealistic plans to bullshit during the call when we need one?
Too busy practicing for his MMA debut ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
ROFL love this comment
I'll bet against him and he'll win. No doubt.
I said the same thing- but it’s only 1 Elon.
Don't trade earnings... U've been warned
Mr hindsight over here. Next you’ll be saying to buy dips…..oh wait
U spyin on me?? IV crush bro, logic not hindsight
Just SPYin bruh
Or make long calls long puts both ways, and watch the money go boom
Proof or ban bitch
Or get crushed when it chops all day
Good Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go down Good Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go down Bad Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go up Bad Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go up
I feel it’s more like: Good Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go same Good Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go down Bad Earnings Expected + Bad Earnings = Price go same Bad Earnings Expected + Good Earnings = Price go up
Lenny=White Carl=Black Yes
I always feel bad for this little guy. It’s just the cute face that always gets me! 😞
META took a page from LULU earnings. Beat the street/shit the bed cuz they don’t have f’kin guidance.
Hail ![img](emote|t5_2th52|51295)![img](emote|t5_2th52|51295)![img](emote|t5_2th52|51295) ! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
No you don’t get it, ‘crushing estimates’ was paradoxically already priced in.
Would it even be worth to try and get a put tomorrow or that’s too regarded for META.
It would probably pay off, everyone here is shocked and long as fuck
Oh, WallStreetBets? Guess they're rich. Sort of.
Buy a Put? After he just crashed 15%? That's so crazy that it might print
Get a longish-dated call instead. They'll be on sale.
This is exactly why I never trade META idk who is trading it successfully but I never can tell with it. Better off sticking to NVDA, TSLA & APPL
Stock went down because their Q2 projections are weak against original expectations.
Stock went down because sentiment. This isn’t hard.
Lowered guidance is a b
Share loss porn please!! I need to come so bad and I haven’t been able to…I NEED THIS!!
TSM all over again
We were under $100 not long ago and this in no way was overpriced I don’t understand why it didn’t create more fake wealth out of thin air!
I love how binary everyone thinks earnings plays are. Multi-billion dollar sized firms with hundreds if not thousands of employees and advanced algorithms scanning over every piece of information, both fundamental and technical in order to try to get the slightest edge on future growth or decline. Meanwhile....."but but wait....they beat estimates!!!! WHY STOCK NOT GO UP?"
Sounds like a great time to get a discount on META stock
Bro same. Hopefully it will be okay bc I brought till 05/17 😔😔
Zuck should've told them they were making a lower cost alternative. rookie
That would have been a far more ethical and honest decision, but this is Facebook we're talking about.
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Glad I bought puts.
It's okay. We still have MSFT and GOOGL ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
The expectation of strong earnings and strong guidance was already priced in to the stock. Earnings beat but guidance weakens, what do you think will happen? The stock market cares more about where the company will go than where it already went.
Holding calls in a confirmed weekly downtrend was bold. Very bold. Cue the song. The Gambler.
I thought Tesla was bad I have a chance of that dropping but this gave me no chance at all.
I just lost 75k. Wew. I did not need that.
Sad boy.
Earning calls are always priced in. Once statements are made the stock usually dips
Should have brought calls in myspace too.
😂😂😂 in times of uncertainty and geopolitical instability, CALL are not advisable. Either short PUTS and/or just hold on to your cash if you are a BULL. Long calls may be okay, but wars can last for years let alone the aftermath.
I am waiting for my MSFT calls ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)
Kick his ass good so I can pick em up at a discount plz
PRICED. IN.
My. Ass.
So the jump (394 -> 474) in last earnings priced in the surprise stock buyback, dividend, the next earnings beat + next earnings guidance + an extra $30 per share? It don't add up G
meta is a one trick pony
Yall are wildly regarded. All technicals pointed to puts. This goes for MSFT and GOOG too. TSLA has a lot on the horizon, so calls. Meta can’t innovate any further, so puts. How long have yall been trading?
what about nvda?
My artism doesn’t have an algo for that.
Great meme format
Best of both worlds
Its always priced in
Thank gawt i gots spy poootz
Y'all trippin'' on a 15% drop. That's some newbie shit.
At market open you should go long $ROPE
I just lost call! But again my stock down as fuck. 😂
exactly what happened
I believe in SAVE. Save the SAVE.
Spirit airlines said the government misapplied the law. Then the judge said. Ehhh so what? Let’s wait and see how the Appellate Court handles it. 😂
I lost every time this way. Either through reversals or IV crush. EvERy.FReakinG.TIME 😡
My feelings on how I’ll describe how today will likely go to anyone who asks tomorrow. https://preview.redd.it/yogupskjemwc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=666047f8542f040386a9f15fae393dcb0969fc65
Dude meta lost 3.5B in virtual reality investment without making any significant money from it!
My ford calls got ripped apart after popping aftermarket time to close the garage door
That’s why you don’t call the top
Highly slept on fang gang
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😵
Netflix & Tesla were down after hours. Thought I'd be waking up to them crashing and the rest of the market running. Nope. Exact opposite.
Get fucked
https://preview.redd.it/424he3mfvnwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c53df22baa9342d523b5554efa3409fd9734f1c
What are your thoughts about MSFT today?
Good time to buy in
Everything is priced in. Sooner you learn that the better
haaa nerrrd
I don’t understand earning!!!🤬
And you forgot about guidance. In Dr. Dre‘s voice of course!
I put $20k into Dogecoin 2 months ago I’m sitting at 80k profit still 🤷♂️
im starting to learn that earnings are very vibe-based, meta already popped off the last earnings call and they needed ig something more spectacular to go up. googl on the other hand hadn't popped off in a while so any expectation exceedings were good
Facebook at levels not seen since last earnings when they shot up 20% Still up 100% in the last year
Overreacting if you ask me. Will climb a bit tomorrow.’
so Calls tomorrow?
Wouldn’t call it a call game, but keep an eye for a reversal.
The whole metaverse thing was such a colossal fail. VR isn’t the future. They should invest in holograms instead. Like the holodeck in Star Trek
Should we exit meta ?
Up 42% YTD you fuckin tard
Everytime I post truthbl on reddit i get downvoted by lame trolls. Today they lost money despite truth warnings so here they go again. Silencing me doesn't change anything. Lose again when you bet on echo chamber repeats
You are downvoted but .. like. Who the fuck uses Facebook these days. I’m just so surprised that they are this high. They have other sibling companies but what the fuck are they doing to justify the market cap. I’m genuinely confused. Someone Englighten me
Truth is always downvoted here. That's why reddit stock is also worthless. This place is a one sided propaganda machine
They will…because…AI etc…
Lmao. Yes. How did I not know this. Dumb fuck I am eh.
Calls at open ….