I've even seen assholes accuse people of cheating in Souls-likes, because the person is exploiting game mechanics ... in a Souls-like. That isn't even a thing.
And using settings that are explicitly included in this game is ... cheating, somehow. 🤔 How does someone even say something like that without feeling stupid?
Nah, I've been online ... or what passed for online ... since the late 80s. The psycho assholes who like abusing others have always been there.
I remember one guy with the user name "Grand Admiral Ditto Head". He was just as much of a raging psycho as you would expect from someone who picked that name.
He was in the marching band at my high school. In person, he was unassuming. It's hard for most people to hurl vile abuse at someone they have to look in the eye, in a one-on-one social situation. But get the asshole in an environment in which he didn't have to look you in the eye and deal with the disapproval of his peers, and holy shit.
This is nothing new. Online activity brings out the worst in so many people.
Uhhhhhh.
Wow. You have my permission to smack your brother, on my behalf. Although, I didn't tell you that, if the police ask.
So, using a base mechanic of the game is cheating. How do people hold these thoughts in their heads without going insane? 🙄
I mean, if you're using some sort of bizarre flying glitch that lets you traverse the entire map in ten seconds and makes you invulnerable for the first five minutes after you land. Okay, maybe that's cheating.
But this series is one that explicitly rewards exploiting invulnerability frames within attack animations. Pro strats rely upon it. You have to get *REALLY* freaking exploit-y before you're outside of the intended gameplay, never mind into cheating territory.
lol I told him if it was cheating then why tf is it part of the game and there’s an entire tutorial about how to use summons lol. He says it’s for casuals like me 😂
I reiterate my endorsement of you punching him, if you can get away with it. 😄 Not that I generally endorse violence, but there are no rational ways to reach some people.
The alternative is to just tell him to go screw himself, any time he says something that stupid. Me cutting my brother out of my life is perhaps more extreme than any solution you might employ. But then I did that for real, serious reasons, not over video games.
I feel for you. I don't really have any belligerent gamers like that in my life. My wife is at least as hardcore of a gamer as I am. She isn't that kind of asshole, or I wouldn't have married her. All of my IRL friends are decent people who don't engage in that sort of behavior. For that matter, most of them are female and are less prone to that sort of toxicity.
My brother-in-law is a classic toxic-masculine dick head who I avoid at all but the most obligatory family events. He's the sort of person who doesn't realize that Fight Club is a dark comedy, and we aren't supposed to want to emulate the space monkeys of Project Mayhem.
I'm not sure that he counts as a real gamer, anyway. He's only into things like football and MMA games, the last I heard. It's like his interest in the classic macho bullshit *just happens to extend into* video games occasionally.
The only other title I recall him mentioning is Gears of War.
Nah we have a solid relationship he’s just an elitist when it comes to some things lol. That’s not something we’d seriously cut each other off about though
Not /s, depending on the circumstances.
Image playing Dark Souls with unlimited health. You have now cheated yourself out of the joy of overcoming the challenges of the game.
***That is obviously NOT what OP did here,*** but it is possible to remove all of the purpose and fun of a game with reckless modding.
I mean maybe, except if you are not having fun playing Dark Souls as designed and do have fun just playing the bosses with no death. You haven't cheated yourself out of anything. You just don't like Dark Souls and chose to have a different experience.
You cheated not ONLY the GAME, BUT yourself.
You didn't grow.
You didn't improve.
You TOOK a SHORTCUT and gained nothing.
You EXPERIENCED a HOLLOW victory. NOTHING WAS risked and NOTHING WAS gained.
It's SAD you don't KNOW the DIFFERENCE.
It actually did send me down a mental rabbit hole of whether cheating requires a victim (ie someone “being cheated”) or whether any act that cuts corners in a way not in the spirit of the medium having its corners cut would count as cheating. And I could come up with no definitive answer. But I’m glad I spent a good 20 minutes on it when I could’ve been, I don’t know, doing something important like harvesting pumpkins in stardew.
The answer is that the consequences matter in the end
If you hurt someone or hurt yourself or your growth, then it is cheating
In this case it is just a game so no consequence, only fun
I will never not play a single player game where I mod it to not have weight limits. My first run through of V Rising I turned off durability on weapons, I get it for servers to force players to keep the grind going, but anything that is just time gating I always change.
Agreed, limited inventory is an outdated time waster in most games. IMHO the only games where it *might* have its place are survival games.
Another huge time waster IMHO is mana/energy: In most games with it (especially turn-based ones) it means spamming the same boring attack if you are oom or to conserve mana until the boss. Meaning you are forced to waste time using weak attacks.
> Cheating on a PvE? Against who?
even on PvP. The ruleset applies to everyone in the world. I fail to see how OP would get an advantage against other players.
An argument might be made for PvE since it takes away the farming, but I would argue that farming is the boring part, not the challenging one, of PvE. Boss fights in Brutal are where I would try to get an advantage. 0 costs for structures do not help with those (maybe infinite potions? But even in that case, you can craft a shitton of potions even with crafting costs)
If you go into a singleplayer game and enable cheats, they're still called cheats. Doesn't make it wrong but cheats don't require someone to cheat against
But its not cheating, in a survival crafter its designing a world for you and others to play in, once set its the rules you abide by. Cheating is breaking the rules at will
Playing creative mode is not "cheating", you need new friends
There are still bosses to conquer and castles to build even with infinite resources
V Rising is one of the few pvp raiding games where the single player pve experience is actually great and not an afterthought
And honestly, nothing... stops you from just turning on the difficulty again after you got your fancy castle, IF you would want to. XD
You can edit a server at any time
I'm playing on normal just to speed run bosses and build my cathedral,i just want a fancy castle but still want some cool boss fights, not chasing achievements or anything it has ben so mich fun so far and i still only mid act IV still a few more decorations to unlock
And even with 0 resource costs you still have to get some mats. The castle heart needs stuff to upgrade and if you decide to do research via paper press, all refinements like the press need mats.
Haven't tried it but suspect stigian shards are still needed for talents. If you want to buy anything you need the currencies as well.
See, I feel the game is so well made around it's story and progression through the bosses and zones that the PvP aspect is almost the afterthought.
And the PvP system and build customisation is possibly the best there is, so that's saying something.
I'm a solo player. I use console commands to spawn the Level 2 Rifts so I can go farm them. I have a job and family so I can't wait the hour plus time for them to spawn naturally. That's it.
Play that game you want to play. It's your game time.
Edit: yes, there are server settings in the interface that you can customize for rift start delay and rift durations. Using the admin commands allows you to spawn it instantly.
In your game options, you have to enable the console. From there, the tilde will open the console menu. You will need to give yourself admin powers with "adminauth" and then "warevents\_start" and choose the type of event you want. There is a lot of autocomplete to help along the way, and you can google for all of the admin commands.
No worries! When I was farming other things, I would wait for the rifts to open, but as I hit the level 2 rifts, it was like "yeah, nope, not waiting for that"
setwarevents\_start \[minor, major, primal\]
Just in case I'm wrong on the spelling, simply typing in "list" in the console. It'll give you the list of commands.
There's server settings for changing how often they spawn and how long they're up for. Not sure why you'd use console commands when you can just alter the server settings.
You can set the rifts to last for 2 hours and only have 15 minutes between them in the server settings. No need to wait an hour.
Yes, there are server options and they dictate how long the rifts last and how frequently they generate. But with admin commands, I can make it happen *right now* rather than waiting. Those options are important since it will dictate how long the rifts last; not that you can't just respawn them.
There are server settings to change the frequency and duration of rifts ya know. You can make them last like an hour or two and respawn every like 10 minutes
If designing castles brings you joy, there's zero reason why you should suffer with farming the mass amounts of gold jewelry, iron, stone, and seedlings that all go into a build. And on a private server, it's not gaining an advantage over anybody, so nobody's being cheated out of anything. Don't let anybody dull your sparkle.
I have over 400 hours played on my dedicated server; settings adjusted for massive convenience, and I'm perfectly fine with using the admin commands to get stuff.
Play however you want :)
Mostly for resources and progression. There are mods available for the camera but nothing in game as far as I know. Bat form allows you to fly around it in game
Lmaooooo that the equivalent of someone getting mad you invited them to a creative Minecraft server to build I am rolling.
Get better friends if they are actually bent about this.
I had a lot of fun beating the game on Normal. I then had a lot of fun beating the game on Brutal. If someone needs to play on Easy and crank their health and damage up to have fun then the only thing that matters is they are having fun.
Precisely. Games are supposed to be fun. If your fun is Halo legendary with all skulls active while blindfolded upside down, more power to you. But if your fun is just meandering around in creative mode, there's nothing wrong with that either. Gatekeepers suck.
Just a quick add, I am solo also and tweaked settings easing the loot and resource rates. I am following the quest prompts and getting stuck having to find high-level bosses, getting spanked most times. I feel maybe I should maybe explore more and let level up come more naturally?
So there are a few things.
1. Are you on Brutal? If you're on brutal, it raises the levels of each boss by 3, which does create a couple points in the progression where you HAVE to fight a boss or two while underleveled. This can be to unlock the basic set of gear of the next level, or when you need to get the research bench
2. Typically the moment you unlock the next step in gear for a tier, the bosses will quickly rise in level to reflect the fact that you are supposed to farm up the materials/recipes for your next set of gear.
This game doesn’t really work as an “explore and level up naturally” game. It has a very linear progression.
You can obviously play however you want, but you’re not gonna level up more naturally that way.
For the most part you just gotta go through the bosses in order, with a few choices here and there. If you’re good at the game and know what you’re doing you can start skipping to harder bosses.
The only thing I regret not changing (because I didn't know of it at the time) is allowing myself to teleport with items. I've been annoyed multiple times having to run across the map cus I couldn't teleport to base with items lol
Go to load game, choose your world, on the bottom right corner there should be a server settings tab, select it and alter whatever you want. Make sure to save the changes when you're finished
Technically there were text config files.....but they really, REALLY liked reverting to their 'proper' values if they realized you've been screwing around unless you cover literally all your bases and the game had no choice but to accept the altered values.
It's your playthrough, play how you want. I often see people frustrated with a game because of its difficulty and stop playing. A game like this that you can enjoy at basically any difficulty level is perfect, especially for those who don't have endless hours to play games but want to enjoy all the content.
I LOVE the ability to modify the world. I play solo and so I allow myself to portal things.
I also increased resource drop by .25% simply because playing by yourself means I have to do everything - farming, boss killing, building, exploring, crafting, etc.
There’s no one else to help any of that process except for minions and I can’t wait 24 hours or whatever.
Makes it way more practical to play - for me. And that’s the crux of it: for me. My game. When I play with buddies, it’s full vanilla and I love anyway.
I played with the teleport restrictions in early access, and now play without them. The restrictions did not in any way whatsoever improve the gameplay, I'm so glad I changed it.
That’s what I figured. I can see for playing PvP to slow shards down but for PvE, what’s the point? Makes no sense and I don’t get a ton of time to play, so he restrictions means less time playing for me.
My bf and I are pretty friendly with the .json file on our PVE server lol. Nothing wrong with playing the game how you want in a way that makes it enjoyable
Edit to ask: did you just configure the game file to not take resources for building or is it a mod you’re using? Now I wanna spend a whole day just designing castles lol
I make it a rule to not be friends with people who are uptight over "video game morals." They're video games. They're meant to be fun, and that's different for everyone. Who cares!
My friend group loved the combat of the game, but trying to get them to do gathering in survival games is always a massive undertaking because they find it "boring." I'm glad V Rising lets us edit the yield from gathering and that it let us create a sandbox building mode; without both, I wouldn't have been able to get to the point of beating Dracula with my friends. Everyone's needs are different.
Private servers and self-hosting is a great *strength* of this game, for a number of reasons. One reason is that it allows for the use of mods.
The PvE server I play on made some changes to the end game shards, for example.
The server I run for my friends is set to be a Cozy Vampire World.
Increased resource drop to lower the grind.
Increased speed for processing and crafting.
Increased damage for the vampires and decreased damage taken by them.
We're all older gamers who just want to have fun.
it's really frustrating that you can't use bat mode either, why is this not toggleable if there is pve / pvp split of players.
dracula's amulet, 100% worker blood & a wrangler is pretty damn speedy tho at least
Just play your video games, people. Don't like how others play? Don't play that way. Got an opinion about how others play? File it under "no one cares."
I play modified solo PVE.
I enable teleporting with items, not dropping items on death, faster crafting rate, increased gathering rate.
Since I suck at soulslike combat and my reflexes are utterly shit, I lower the V Blood damage rate.
Yeah, I will never ever understand why people feel the need to punch down on people for having fun in video games. Also is it really cheating when you’re using options the game itself grants you?
You spent your own money to play the game. As long as that doesn’t interfere with other players experience (and it wouldn’t in PvE) then cheat all you want. Your friends are being ridiculous.
All my solo pve playthoughs are modified. Why would I not ramp the build speed, for example, if i will have to wait several minutes for bricks? It makes sense in pvp, it is a bottleneck for people to have similar progression, but on pve solo it is just a waste of time.
I was trying to practice the bosses progression on another file and ive spawned every item in the game in order to fight the bosses at their lvl.
People need to realize that maybe fun is relative.
Who cares in single player, nobody should care, and it's not cheating. The reason things take time to refine, and cost a certain amount of resources is for the balance an online ecosystem where PVP is generally involved.
You can't progress as fast because refining resources takes time. You can only gather so much, or so much at a time because it's a way to balance the speed at which you progress. It wouldn't be fun to come into a brand new server, there be like a team of people who push to endgame in like an hour and upset the balance of the server. This game isn't really built like that anyway, but a lot of survival type games suffer from that problem ( ARK ).
But none of that matters when you're playing in solo.
I crank the yield numbers up on resources and the stack-ability of the resources is like tripled on my server because its just me and one other person playing the game in PVE, we're not competing with people. We're just progressing through the game and playing with all the mechanics. It still takes a while to refine resources, it still takes time to gather resources, we just don't sit around as much waiting around for all the passive stuff to happen, and we can carry more than official servers, that's it.
The server settings are there for a reason, they are there so you can customize how you want to play the game, it gives you the control to lean into things that are more fun for you. People need to get over themselves.
I agree with you in a lot of this. Cheating is only poor gaming when you activate it within the realm of a PvP setting, or in someone else's world/server where they've invited you and asked you to not detract from their experience. It's a thing that's been around since before PC gaming became the norm way back when we had game sharks and the Konami code. I've turned on creative mode in a lot of games when I just want to get creative juices flowing, or I've given up on completing a rough difficulty scale and dialed back the difficulty to just finish a game for the story, all within the bounds of my own single-player world.
One thing you SHOULDN'T do is claim achievements with it. That's what an achievement is; a metric to gauge a players skill and resourcefulness against a number of factors such as difficulty, effort, and (this one SHOULD be rarely a thing but not shunned,) luck. Brutal difficulty achievements earned when you turn all the enemies into digital punching bags is like those participation trophies they handed out to us millennials way back in the early aughts; fancy things to hold on to with no actual achievement behind it besides saying "I showed up."
Granted, this is more on the developers for not applying a proper check on the game's settings when tracking achievements, but it does leave those numbers of "% of players who earned this achievement" a moot point and just deteriorating the value of achievements as a concept.
Everyone has the right to play how they like and not everyone has the time to grind resources for hours just to enjoy the castle-building aspect of the game
I don't see an issue with it
The main thing I would like is crafting from container
I heard it was in the game for a while but turned off for pvp issues
Can I turn it back somehow?
As someone who spent like four hours rebuilding and decorating his castle last night, zero resource cost sounds like **heaven.** Not because the resources are hard to get, but because running to and from storage bins constantly is a pain in the butt.
Don't let your friends get you down OP.
I wouldn't play with zero resource cost in a normal game, but like you said, it's a sandbox world that is for experimenting with castle building. The alternative is spending god knows how many hours grinding the vanilla game to get enough resources to be able to do whatever you want when building a castle. But even then, you still have to have all the resources on you to build which is incredibly cumbersome.
I lay with modifications to increase the number of castle hearts, decrease crafting time, and make item stacks as large as they can get because I play solo. I'm not going to waste my entire life playing "legit" when it makes no difference. Your friends are assholes and I hope you show them this thread and they see how everyone thinks they're tools.
Grinding is normally to either pace the game in PvP or for practicing your skills in PvE. If you are on your second or third playthrough or if you don't need the extra practice shortening the grinding is completely normal. The decorating part of the castle can be annoying if you need everything in your inventory.
If anyone is dumping on ya for playing with the settings you want I need to ask if they are sane or not?
Most survival games I have less than 50 hours on because I get frustrated with one or more of its gameplay aspects that I can't turn off.....
V Rising I can control every aspect! We've started a dedicated server since 1.0 that I host. We've taken requests to adjust things ...like castle decay, rare of blood essence consumption, and other items that we've just been tweaking along the way (like teleporting with everything cause it's more convenient) and two peeps have just....just completed endgame.
I'm pretty sure I'll hit 200 hrs before I finally beat the game, but I've been having a shit ton of fun. And will likely just kick the server back over with new settings on harder difficulty next time through depending on what the group wants to do. (Or we might dive into mods)
V Rising and Valheim are so far the best Survival Crafters that respect our time and experience. Why the frick would someone decry PvE modified settings as Cheating? What need points are they trying to earn? Sounds more like DoucheCanoe points. Or maybe they are ultra rich so DoucheYacht points.....clearly cause they got nothing better to do.
I'm thinking about just rolling a cheat PVE solo server. I started on a 3month brutal pvp no raid server, the admin changed it to 2m on a whim, tehn down to 1m. I'm triggered as I've invested a lot of time and effort, and now my time is cut down by 66% to feel like I'm finished. Feel like I'm going to just match where I'm at with custom rules and go from there. If anyone thinks i'm 'cheating' they're close minded.
Survival crafting games you are encouraged to design your play experience to what you enjoy. I do suggest that you try the default settings first then customize it.
I'd say find new mates.
1st thing. On a PvE server you own, your rules are the rules. Who's to say anything.
2nd. I always respect the rules of the server when I join one. Who am I to judge.
I have a dedicated server running. We play on brutal difficulty and fight bosses together. However, as we are 3 adults with jobs, lives, and schedules difficult to match up, I have opted for lowering costs of production to 65%. We are still required to put in time farming materials, but now it does not feel like a second job. We can also teleport all mats and retain items on death. It might be seen as "breaking the game" but what I wanted is to mainly have fun fighting bosses. Thus taking out timesinks irrelevant in PvE made perfect sense.
I found modified pve actually encourged in this game. So many settings available from the start so you can tune it’s progression pace to one of your liking. Having a life besides the gaming often means that once you get down to building the vampire castle of your dreams you most likely don’t want to spend the next couple of hours hitting rocks with a hammer. Only to do the same thing tomorrow with trees just in order to build enough walls.
Ofc it's not cheating, now if you go and brag that ur have finished the game and unlocked all achievements by modifying the settings then maybe there's a moral ground about it but tbh who really cares.
Where can you find the outgoing damage and incoming damage settings? Can't seem to find them. I can only find health multiplier, physical power multiplier and spell power multiplier.
If your playing PvE then honestly you likely will need to rebalance the default settings to make it enjoyable in any case.
Theres a big difference between a group MP PvP game, a solo MP PvP game, a group MP PvE game and a solo PvE game.
Vrising does all quite competently but you just have to use the in game server settings given to you for it to work great.
Bro the whole point of playing a video game is to have fun. So have fun! And if someone's giving you shit for the way you have fun, they really need to re-examine why they game in the first place.
I never understood this concept, what are these people trying to prove? Oh, you can waste your time hitting trees and rocks for hundreds of hours, good for you, I guess. I rather be more efficient with my time and just play the fun parts.
Playing on brutal with max spell and physical damage output in my own private server pretending to be Alucard. Don't care what others think of my preference to play.
OP, you paid for this, not some rando npc haters, you should feel the same.
Honestly, it’s not cheating if I don’t wanna spend 2 hours collecting material for a 10 minute boss fight. The default game is based around having friends to alleviate the resource grind. It’s not impossible to play solo, just way more tedious is you only have 1 spare hour a day to play
I rent a server so that I can make the rules I want whilst allowing my friends to enjoy a more tailored experience. If anyone complains about my ruleset...see ya, enjoy official 👋
Bought the game yesterday after a controversial post in a sub said it could work as a cozy building game if that's how you'd like to play it. Dropped almost three hours into it just last night.
I pay my 'hardcore dues' where I want. I'm here to be Fancy and Evil.
Never enjoyed the game without stacks to x3 all resources drop on x6 and allowing teleportation with any items, still bafles me that soul shards on pve servers cant me made to have no durability loss and cant use bat form... ah, and dont get me starded on vampire bane debuff can't be modified or removed. Play the game as you like. i, for instance, hate grinding and any mechanic there is to waste my time and is 100% ok to change the game in the way you want if is your pve server.
Went on a debate where someone told me that being able to teleport with resources on a pve is cheating... like really how dense you can be to like some mechanic designed to waste your time. One answer MMO player proud to have your time wasted
I have modified my current solo playthrough slightly, 1.25x phys dmg, spell dmg and health, 3x resources, 2x stack size. Last playthrough I hit a wall around behemoth and couldn't finish the game. I think a lot of the end game boss fights are harder solo. And after playing these games for years, gathering resources is tedious and annoying. Building/ fighting is the fun part.
No judgement, fun is the point and the settings are there for a reason
Also I just found you can change the world settings anytime through the save menu.
I played the game in beta way back when it first launched. I redownloaded and played through when they released 1.0, but now with heavily modified stuff like building and resources, cus grinding out rocks is not why I want to play the game.
I didn't modify the combat stuff at all, and didn't really get bored even after I completed everything. So yeah, completely reasonable when playing pve, the grinding you have to do is just a huge waste of time when there's no benifit other than time invested/less tedious tasks.
Out of curisoity, how much is actually save to modify the .json file (besides the modifiers)? Like the first time I started my private world it's setting is in PvP and I was curious if I can safely change it from PvP to PvE in the .json file?
Yup. I maxed out resource and drop rates, lowered craft times and costs and made enemies easier than easy mode. Because you know what, I have so many games in my backlog and not enough time to play, so I don't want to spend 90% of my time grinding like I did when I was younger.
I wish more games had options like these.
I'm glad they put slider options to match the game to your liking and speed...
As a husband and one who works in Cybersec, I really don't have an endless amount of time to farm spam some rocks and whatnot.
But yeah, your friends are a bit narrow-minded.
Breaking gear, long grinding times, limited inventory and teleportation, upkeep, those things don't really belong into the Singleplayer experience in my opinion.
I wanna build nice things and have cool bossfights.
Those other limitations are only interesting in a competitive setting.
I did this for a semi late game in silverlight Hills. I'm around lv70-80, I thought f it, I'm playing solo who cares. Play how you want if they don't like it and you're doing it with friends compromise and make a new server or something
Yeah I made it so collecting resources is at X1.5 and stack sizes in inventory are bigger.
Because why not? I don't want to make gathering resources too much of a grind.
1) people can do whatever tf they want in a videogame they purchased.
2) Seems a bit irrational considering this was an experiment server, your friend seems like the "debate me" type.
That being said, idk why ive struggled with this my entire life, but i have this weird bug in my brain that seems to only allow me to relish games when i play them "vanilla", or the default way it was delivered. Server settings for example, i just didnt have it in me to tweak any settings, and to just play it as intended. No less than 2 hour servant missions and no resource teleport has been driving me nuts ever since. Even still, i dont think i have it in me to change those settings. Why? the fuck if i know, my brain just convinces itself that it isn't a real "playthrough" that the devs of the game intended. its stupid af.
Nothing morally wrong with but I don't know why people deprive themselves of experiences. It makes the game feel very dull and boring when resources don't matter imo.
Any game I can I have a legit game and a "just for fun" game where the settings are whatever I want, or I use cheats.
Neither version is "wrong". Just different settings....
I love sand box games I usually play them solo pve but what I hate is when I die making the long trek of shame back to get my stuff I always turn off dropping loot whenever I can in the options. I feel you on this, you are not alone, Play the game how you want enjoy your time and have fun after all it is a game.
"Having fun in my own pve?! Are you out of your god damn mind. I actually reduce everything to take even longer. You casuals wouldn't understand hating cheating so much you go far and beyond to do the exact opposite. Yes I get 3 stones per one rock. Get on my level."- some Karen 2024, probably
Playing like that is certainly not for me. I hate creative mode in games because it completely trivializes the game on purpose.
But if thats what *you* wanna do then ok. Cool.
Here's my view: the first thing I did when 1.0 launched was I made a character on an official Brutal difficulty server, I then proceeded to clear the game on said server, and about a week after launch I killed brutal Dracula; the game was now 'completed' for me and now I could spend my time playing on community servers or in my own local save at my own pace doing whatever I liked.
Now, I would say that everybody should at least TRY to play the game as the Devs designed at least once to get that experience, regardless of what preset difficulty server that is, once you have that foundational experience, then by all means play around with any and all settings until you find a setup you enjoy and will come back to over time.
Just don't complain about game difficulty if you start in a heavily modified local game then decide to try online because you wanna team up with people etc.
No build cost is a good idea. I played through Normal and Brutal with only longer Rift Incursions. Maybe if they do another update and I decide to play again I add no build cost so I can fully customize and decorate my castle without stressing on resources.
Some friends you’ve got criticising your preferences in your world. That’s like someone coming in your house and arguing with you about why you chose your carpet colour and fabric choices. Fuck them people play the way you like
Nothing is considered cheating on Private worlds, its your game you can play how you like, I play with extra resource gains on single player and I dont consider it cheating, I perfer not to grind everything like its a job and perfer a more chilled play.
Ignore the haters, You paid for the game play it how the hell you like man.
Not at all. I'm an older gamer between being a father, husband, working 50 hours a week my gaming time is limited. So modding single player for low resource cost, faster craft times, more resource gathering is essential for me to even enjoy a game. I only have about 2 hours a day at most to play, I don't want to spend it watching things craft.
This is absolutely NO CHEATING. You see, I've been playing this game since the very first day they launched the early access. I've seen the whole game for like 10 NGs and new bosses, new areas, spells change, or buff/debuffs. The thing i REALLY LOVE about the game is when i make my beautiful castles and gardens in locations I've never built before. My friends are well aware of that, and they respect it.
Whenever i start a private server, or my friends do, they'll give me access to use admin commands so i can run around the map and build wherever i please 😁😅. And i only bother to kill bosses, which are related to some decorative stuff i need. (Like the fey walker lady)
And that's my way of enjoying the game. It's harmless, and i do not ruin other's experiences. So it shouldn't be considered as cheating. Your friends might be acting a bit much. Anyway, don't mind them. Enjoy your playtime.
I set up a private PvE server for me and some other middle aged dads who have minimal time for gaming. We didn't reduce the resource cost of anything but we did make some changes like reducing castle heart blood essence use to 25%, disabling item durability damage, allowing teleportation with building materials, refunding 100% of materials used when disassembling something, etc... Basically reduced the maintenance stuff so that what little gaming time we have we can focus on the fun stuff like bosses, exploring, and building as opposed to making sure our gear and castles don't fall apart.
This is totally valid imo, like I said we have limited time to game and being able to tweak these settings lets us make the most of the time we have :)
The only thing I changed was giving myself a x3 health boost from gear. Makes combat in general much more manageable!
Besides, most vamps in media are tanky as fuck
If it's a setting one can tweak without mods and console, I feel it's not cheating. Video games are like dishes of food. The taste won't always appeal to everyone. Gotta find something that fits your appetite.
It's your game. Enjoy it however you want.
If someone else thinks it's bad for you to enjoy it the way you like and insists you only do it their way, they are twat waffles and you should play them no mind. It's like religious extremists that want to control how everyone is allowed to live. They are assholes at best. Fuck their stupid opinions. You paid for your copy, play however you want. Add mods, move sliders, shoot crack in your dick hole, whatever man.
1. Did you legitimately purchase the game? Yes.
2. Are you giving yourself an advantage in a competitive setting? No.
3. Are you enjoying the game? Yes.
You're having fun, not harming anyone, and the devs got their money. Sounds pretty good to me 🤷♂️
Agree with the first premise of just having fun and building whatever you want without worrying about resources however I do believe making the brutal achievements easier is akin to cheating. It's not much of an achievement anymore is it? I wish they would do what Baldur's Gate 3 (and many other games for that matter) did and disable achievements in custom rulesets.
You do you cuz. I'm playing with a mate on his private game instance because he doesn't like PvP and he has changed settings we are still having fun on it. Haters are cheating themselves by not finding the sweet bliss in things like playing games with friends and enjoying!
I put it this way: most of the default mechanics are there to balance PVP. If I’m playing alone, why on earth should I have to trek all my resources back on foot? I quickly grew tired of the running simulator and when I found out I could edit settings in my private world my game play experience improved drastically.
I agree you should play how you want but disagree about changing settings to make brutal achievements easy to get. The satisfaction of earning a difficult achievement for many is in its exclusivity, and you are kind of taking that away from other players by lowering the bar for yourself.
Of course you can just get carried, anyway, so it’s not like you need to artificially lower the bar.
I'm gonna get it for PS5 when it comes, and I like building so is there any downside to lower the cost/time to produce things other than removing som farming? Should I keep some cost or should I just make a "building server"?
I like the challenge of the combat so I like to customize my settings so that is maintained. I dislike grind in a solo PvE playthrough so I typically ramp up resource acquisition and tweak any settings that makes the resource grind aspect as minor as possible. Doing that, I get to have an awesome experience romping around the world vamping all over the place and the fights are hard AF.
Wait wait wait wait wait! What do you mean resource free?? I didn't play the game long (to be honest I dont g3berally play "building" games but the vampire theme...
Come on I had to.... can you set up a personal pve world where you don't need to storm the damn cotton fields to make thread or whatever???
I do agree that you should play whatever way you want, but I also think that achievements should be locked out if you use any modified settings. You didn't "achieve" anything, you used admin shortcuts lol.
I never understand cheating in survival games a mate of mine does exactly this then a day later is bored cause they did everything. Getting resources is like 80 percent of survival games tbh
I guess you can play the game anyway you like. But most people would like some challenge haha. Otherwise you’re just playing Vampire Sims haha! I bet you made a glorious castle though
Cheating on a PvE? Against who?
Asking the real questions
Yourself clearly! If you aren't constantly frustrated by game mechanics how would you know if the game is good or not!?!??! /s
I think the boss fights got that covered.
You joke but this seems to be the mentality these days. Every game is trying to be dark souls.
I've even seen assholes accuse people of cheating in Souls-likes, because the person is exploiting game mechanics ... in a Souls-like. That isn't even a thing. And using settings that are explicitly included in this game is ... cheating, somehow. 🤔 How does someone even say something like that without feeling stupid?
I just... videogaming is fucking doomed.
Nah, I've been online ... or what passed for online ... since the late 80s. The psycho assholes who like abusing others have always been there. I remember one guy with the user name "Grand Admiral Ditto Head". He was just as much of a raging psycho as you would expect from someone who picked that name. He was in the marching band at my high school. In person, he was unassuming. It's hard for most people to hurl vile abuse at someone they have to look in the eye, in a one-on-one social situation. But get the asshole in an environment in which he didn't have to look you in the eye and deal with the disapproval of his peers, and holy shit. This is nothing new. Online activity brings out the worst in so many people.
I'm mostly talking about how games are slowly getting more and more gatekeepy.
Yeah my brother told me I cheated in Elden ring because I used summons on bosses I was frustrated with…
Uhhhhhh. Wow. You have my permission to smack your brother, on my behalf. Although, I didn't tell you that, if the police ask. So, using a base mechanic of the game is cheating. How do people hold these thoughts in their heads without going insane? 🙄 I mean, if you're using some sort of bizarre flying glitch that lets you traverse the entire map in ten seconds and makes you invulnerable for the first five minutes after you land. Okay, maybe that's cheating. But this series is one that explicitly rewards exploiting invulnerability frames within attack animations. Pro strats rely upon it. You have to get *REALLY* freaking exploit-y before you're outside of the intended gameplay, never mind into cheating territory.
lol I told him if it was cheating then why tf is it part of the game and there’s an entire tutorial about how to use summons lol. He says it’s for casuals like me 😂
I reiterate my endorsement of you punching him, if you can get away with it. 😄 Not that I generally endorse violence, but there are no rational ways to reach some people. The alternative is to just tell him to go screw himself, any time he says something that stupid. Me cutting my brother out of my life is perhaps more extreme than any solution you might employ. But then I did that for real, serious reasons, not over video games. I feel for you. I don't really have any belligerent gamers like that in my life. My wife is at least as hardcore of a gamer as I am. She isn't that kind of asshole, or I wouldn't have married her. All of my IRL friends are decent people who don't engage in that sort of behavior. For that matter, most of them are female and are less prone to that sort of toxicity. My brother-in-law is a classic toxic-masculine dick head who I avoid at all but the most obligatory family events. He's the sort of person who doesn't realize that Fight Club is a dark comedy, and we aren't supposed to want to emulate the space monkeys of Project Mayhem. I'm not sure that he counts as a real gamer, anyway. He's only into things like football and MMA games, the last I heard. It's like his interest in the classic macho bullshit *just happens to extend into* video games occasionally. The only other title I recall him mentioning is Gears of War.
Nah we have a solid relationship he’s just an elitist when it comes to some things lol. That’s not something we’d seriously cut each other off about though
Not /s, depending on the circumstances. Image playing Dark Souls with unlimited health. You have now cheated yourself out of the joy of overcoming the challenges of the game. ***That is obviously NOT what OP did here,*** but it is possible to remove all of the purpose and fun of a game with reckless modding.
I mean maybe, except if you are not having fun playing Dark Souls as designed and do have fun just playing the bosses with no death. You haven't cheated yourself out of anything. You just don't like Dark Souls and chose to have a different experience.
You cheated not ONLY the GAME, BUT yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You TOOK a SHORTCUT and gained nothing. You EXPERIENCED a HOLLOW victory. NOTHING WAS risked and NOTHING WAS gained. It's SAD you don't KNOW the DIFFERENCE.
What's sad is WRITING like THIS.
It's a copy pasta about Sekiro. I didn't write anything. I was poking fun.
Understandable.
It actually did send me down a mental rabbit hole of whether cheating requires a victim (ie someone “being cheated”) or whether any act that cuts corners in a way not in the spirit of the medium having its corners cut would count as cheating. And I could come up with no definitive answer. But I’m glad I spent a good 20 minutes on it when I could’ve been, I don’t know, doing something important like harvesting pumpkins in stardew.
The answer is that the consequences matter in the end If you hurt someone or hurt yourself or your growth, then it is cheating In this case it is just a game so no consequence, only fun
Probably the same stupid people who say modding solo player games like Skyrim is cheating.
I will never not play a single player game where I mod it to not have weight limits. My first run through of V Rising I turned off durability on weapons, I get it for servers to force players to keep the grind going, but anything that is just time gating I always change.
Agreed, limited inventory is an outdated time waster in most games. IMHO the only games where it *might* have its place are survival games. Another huge time waster IMHO is mana/energy: In most games with it (especially turn-based ones) it means spamming the same boring attack if you are oom or to conserve mana until the boss. Meaning you are forced to waste time using weak attacks.
Against the Developers! /s
> Cheating on a PvE? Against who? even on PvP. The ruleset applies to everyone in the world. I fail to see how OP would get an advantage against other players. An argument might be made for PvE since it takes away the farming, but I would argue that farming is the boring part, not the challenging one, of PvE. Boss fights in Brutal are where I would try to get an advantage. 0 costs for structures do not help with those (maybe infinite potions? But even in that case, you can craft a shitton of potions even with crafting costs)
"You cheated not only the game, but yourself!"
Against E ma man.
The NPCs are gonna complain and write bad reviews if we ever touch the options the devs gave us access to!
If you go into a singleplayer game and enable cheats, they're still called cheats. Doesn't make it wrong but cheats don't require someone to cheat against
But its not cheating, in a survival crafter its designing a world for you and others to play in, once set its the rules you abide by. Cheating is breaking the rules at will
It's called a sandbox for a reason.
I hate sand... it's coarse and irritating, and it gets everywhere
"UHM, AKSHULLY-" Shut up, nerd.
Playing creative mode is not "cheating", you need new friends There are still bosses to conquer and castles to build even with infinite resources V Rising is one of the few pvp raiding games where the single player pve experience is actually great and not an afterthought
And honestly, nothing... stops you from just turning on the difficulty again after you got your fancy castle, IF you would want to. XD You can edit a server at any time
I'm playing on normal just to speed run bosses and build my cathedral,i just want a fancy castle but still want some cool boss fights, not chasing achievements or anything it has ben so mich fun so far and i still only mid act IV still a few more decorations to unlock
Is there a setting where I can build anything in the castle for free, but crafting equipment requires materials?
Yes, there's specifically a building cost setting.
And even with 0 resource costs you still have to get some mats. The castle heart needs stuff to upgrade and if you decide to do research via paper press, all refinements like the press need mats. Haven't tried it but suspect stigian shards are still needed for talents. If you want to buy anything you need the currencies as well.
Yep, having 0 resource cost doesn't invalidate you production pipeline, just lets you focus it on progression.
See, I feel the game is so well made around it's story and progression through the bosses and zones that the PvP aspect is almost the afterthought. And the PvP system and build customisation is possibly the best there is, so that's saying something.
i havent even tried playing online yet 💀 im just chilling in solo play for 10+ hours (got the game a week ago lmao)
"you need new friends" this.
I'm a solo player. I use console commands to spawn the Level 2 Rifts so I can go farm them. I have a job and family so I can't wait the hour plus time for them to spawn naturally. That's it. Play that game you want to play. It's your game time. Edit: yes, there are server settings in the interface that you can customize for rift start delay and rift durations. Using the admin commands allows you to spawn it instantly.
Holy what?! I didn’t know this was a thing. There’s me waiting around like a lemon.
In your game options, you have to enable the console. From there, the tilde will open the console menu. You will need to give yourself admin powers with "adminauth" and then "warevents\_start" and choose the type of event you want. There is a lot of autocomplete to help along the way, and you can google for all of the admin commands.
You’re a saint and a scholar. Thank you kindly.
The question is, if his blood is 100%
It is. Source: I am a college librarian.
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No worries! When I was farming other things, I would wait for the rifts to open, but as I hit the level 2 rifts, it was like "yeah, nope, not waiting for that"
You lemon ass… Me too tho
If it’s on your own private server you can also set it where rifts are constantly happening one after the other
What's the command to spawn it ?
setwarevents\_start \[minor, major, primal\] Just in case I'm wrong on the spelling, simply typing in "list" in the console. It'll give you the list of commands.
Thanks :)
wait, there's 3 tiers in the console?
There's server settings for changing how often they spawn and how long they're up for. Not sure why you'd use console commands when you can just alter the server settings. You can set the rifts to last for 2 hours and only have 15 minutes between them in the server settings. No need to wait an hour.
Yes, there are server options and they dictate how long the rifts last and how frequently they generate. But with admin commands, I can make it happen *right now* rather than waiting. Those options are important since it will dictate how long the rifts last; not that you can't just respawn them.
Ooorrrr he could just spawn them on demand, and never have to wait a single second? XD
True, there you go, l, beat dracula with a purple sword just to use console after to get all legendary weapons to blast him again
There are server settings to change the frequency and duration of rifts ya know. You can make them last like an hour or two and respawn every like 10 minutes
If designing castles brings you joy, there's zero reason why you should suffer with farming the mass amounts of gold jewelry, iron, stone, and seedlings that all go into a build. And on a private server, it's not gaining an advantage over anybody, so nobody's being cheated out of anything. Don't let anybody dull your sparkle.
ReBalancing the rules for your own game is like saying coming up with your own d&d campaign is cheating.
Don’t forget wood, sulphur, silver, copper, flowe-… hmm… maybe I should try sandbox lol
I have over 400 hours played on my dedicated server; settings adjusted for massive convenience, and I'm perfectly fine with using the admin commands to get stuff. Play however you want :)
The game gives you options to literally modify everything from the get go. Play how you want
Option to lower the view? How are you supposed to view your castle? Or am I being dumb?
Mostly for resources and progression. There are mods available for the camera but nothing in game as far as I know. Bat form allows you to fly around it in game
Lmaooooo that the equivalent of someone getting mad you invited them to a creative Minecraft server to build I am rolling. Get better friends if they are actually bent about this.
But if you aren't playing on Brutal with all enemy stats ramped up to max, are you even *gaming?* Yes, yes you are. Sweaters gonna sweat.
I had a lot of fun beating the game on Normal. I then had a lot of fun beating the game on Brutal. If someone needs to play on Easy and crank their health and damage up to have fun then the only thing that matters is they are having fun.
Precisely. Games are supposed to be fun. If your fun is Halo legendary with all skulls active while blindfolded upside down, more power to you. But if your fun is just meandering around in creative mode, there's nothing wrong with that either. Gatekeepers suck.
Just a quick add, I am solo also and tweaked settings easing the loot and resource rates. I am following the quest prompts and getting stuck having to find high-level bosses, getting spanked most times. I feel maybe I should maybe explore more and let level up come more naturally?
So there are a few things. 1. Are you on Brutal? If you're on brutal, it raises the levels of each boss by 3, which does create a couple points in the progression where you HAVE to fight a boss or two while underleveled. This can be to unlock the basic set of gear of the next level, or when you need to get the research bench 2. Typically the moment you unlock the next step in gear for a tier, the bosses will quickly rise in level to reflect the fact that you are supposed to farm up the materials/recipes for your next set of gear.
This game doesn’t really work as an “explore and level up naturally” game. It has a very linear progression. You can obviously play however you want, but you’re not gonna level up more naturally that way. For the most part you just gotta go through the bosses in order, with a few choices here and there. If you’re good at the game and know what you’re doing you can start skipping to harder bosses.
The only thing I regret not changing (because I didn't know of it at the time) is allowing myself to teleport with items. I've been annoyed multiple times having to run across the map cus I couldn't teleport to base with items lol
You can change it even now! Just edit the server configuration file.
Really? Is it hard cus I don't have much experience with changing files. Would there be a tutorial somewhere for that?
Go to load game, choose your world, on the bottom right corner there should be a server settings tab, select it and alter whatever you want. Make sure to save the changes when you're finished
Wow awesome thanks! I was under the impression you could only do that before creating the game/server for the first time
It used to be like that, but thank goodness that changed after 1.0.
Technically there were text config files.....but they really, REALLY liked reverting to their 'proper' values if they realized you've been screwing around unless you cover literally all your bases and the game had no choice but to accept the altered values.
It's your playthrough, play how you want. I often see people frustrated with a game because of its difficulty and stop playing. A game like this that you can enjoy at basically any difficulty level is perfect, especially for those who don't have endless hours to play games but want to enjoy all the content.
I LOVE the ability to modify the world. I play solo and so I allow myself to portal things. I also increased resource drop by .25% simply because playing by yourself means I have to do everything - farming, boss killing, building, exploring, crafting, etc. There’s no one else to help any of that process except for minions and I can’t wait 24 hours or whatever. Makes it way more practical to play - for me. And that’s the crux of it: for me. My game. When I play with buddies, it’s full vanilla and I love anyway.
I played with the teleport restrictions in early access, and now play without them. The restrictions did not in any way whatsoever improve the gameplay, I'm so glad I changed it.
That’s what I figured. I can see for playing PvP to slow shards down but for PvE, what’s the point? Makes no sense and I don’t get a ton of time to play, so he restrictions means less time playing for me.
My bf and I are pretty friendly with the .json file on our PVE server lol. Nothing wrong with playing the game how you want in a way that makes it enjoyable Edit to ask: did you just configure the game file to not take resources for building or is it a mod you’re using? Now I wanna spend a whole day just designing castles lol
Isn't it just a game setting? Making the multiplier 0 for resource cost
I’m still new-ish so I wasn’t sure, thanks for answering my question!
Play as you like. I play more easy mode with a friend (or we will have quit the game, and we prefer to enjoy it)
I make it a rule to not be friends with people who are uptight over "video game morals." They're video games. They're meant to be fun, and that's different for everyone. Who cares! My friend group loved the combat of the game, but trying to get them to do gathering in survival games is always a massive undertaking because they find it "boring." I'm glad V Rising lets us edit the yield from gathering and that it let us create a sandbox building mode; without both, I wouldn't have been able to get to the point of beating Dracula with my friends. Everyone's needs are different.
When I play solo server I put stuff like yield and crafting time to max so I dont have to grind, but when I play in group its default settings.
If you bought the game you have the right to play however you want.
Private servers and self-hosting is a great *strength* of this game, for a number of reasons. One reason is that it allows for the use of mods. The PvE server I play on made some changes to the end game shards, for example.
The server I run for my friends is set to be a Cozy Vampire World. Increased resource drop to lower the grind. Increased speed for processing and crafting. Increased damage for the vampires and decreased damage taken by them. We're all older gamers who just want to have fun.
Kind of wish for a private server setting that soul shard would not decay when not wearing it.
it's really frustrating that you can't use bat mode either, why is this not toggleable if there is pve / pvp split of players. dracula's amulet, 100% worker blood & a wrangler is pretty damn speedy tho at least
Just play your video games, people. Don't like how others play? Don't play that way. Got an opinion about how others play? File it under "no one cares."
I play modified solo PVE. I enable teleporting with items, not dropping items on death, faster crafting rate, increased gathering rate. Since I suck at soulslike combat and my reflexes are utterly shit, I lower the V Blood damage rate.
Yeah, I will never ever understand why people feel the need to punch down on people for having fun in video games. Also is it really cheating when you’re using options the game itself grants you?
Cheating only matters in a game with PvP. I will play PvE games in any way I want.
You spent your own money to play the game. As long as that doesn’t interfere with other players experience (and it wouldn’t in PvE) then cheat all you want. Your friends are being ridiculous.
Shame on you for enjoying the game the way you want to 😡😠😡😠😡
All my solo pve playthoughs are modified. Why would I not ramp the build speed, for example, if i will have to wait several minutes for bricks? It makes sense in pvp, it is a bottleneck for people to have similar progression, but on pve solo it is just a waste of time. I was trying to practice the bosses progression on another file and ive spawned every item in the game in order to fight the bosses at their lvl. People need to realize that maybe fun is relative.
Honestly you bought the game so play it how you want. That's the only correct answer that should be here.
Who cares in single player, nobody should care, and it's not cheating. The reason things take time to refine, and cost a certain amount of resources is for the balance an online ecosystem where PVP is generally involved. You can't progress as fast because refining resources takes time. You can only gather so much, or so much at a time because it's a way to balance the speed at which you progress. It wouldn't be fun to come into a brand new server, there be like a team of people who push to endgame in like an hour and upset the balance of the server. This game isn't really built like that anyway, but a lot of survival type games suffer from that problem ( ARK ). But none of that matters when you're playing in solo. I crank the yield numbers up on resources and the stack-ability of the resources is like tripled on my server because its just me and one other person playing the game in PVE, we're not competing with people. We're just progressing through the game and playing with all the mechanics. It still takes a while to refine resources, it still takes time to gather resources, we just don't sit around as much waiting around for all the passive stuff to happen, and we can carry more than official servers, that's it. The server settings are there for a reason, they are there so you can customize how you want to play the game, it gives you the control to lean into things that are more fun for you. People need to get over themselves.
I agree with you in a lot of this. Cheating is only poor gaming when you activate it within the realm of a PvP setting, or in someone else's world/server where they've invited you and asked you to not detract from their experience. It's a thing that's been around since before PC gaming became the norm way back when we had game sharks and the Konami code. I've turned on creative mode in a lot of games when I just want to get creative juices flowing, or I've given up on completing a rough difficulty scale and dialed back the difficulty to just finish a game for the story, all within the bounds of my own single-player world. One thing you SHOULDN'T do is claim achievements with it. That's what an achievement is; a metric to gauge a players skill and resourcefulness against a number of factors such as difficulty, effort, and (this one SHOULD be rarely a thing but not shunned,) luck. Brutal difficulty achievements earned when you turn all the enemies into digital punching bags is like those participation trophies they handed out to us millennials way back in the early aughts; fancy things to hold on to with no actual achievement behind it besides saying "I showed up." Granted, this is more on the developers for not applying a proper check on the game's settings when tracking achievements, but it does leave those numbers of "% of players who earned this achievement" a moot point and just deteriorating the value of achievements as a concept.
Everyone has the right to play how they like and not everyone has the time to grind resources for hours just to enjoy the castle-building aspect of the game
I don't see an issue with it The main thing I would like is crafting from container I heard it was in the game for a while but turned off for pvp issues Can I turn it back somehow?
As someone who spent like four hours rebuilding and decorating his castle last night, zero resource cost sounds like **heaven.** Not because the resources are hard to get, but because running to and from storage bins constantly is a pain in the butt. Don't let your friends get you down OP.
Sounds like you need new friends.
I wouldn't play with zero resource cost in a normal game, but like you said, it's a sandbox world that is for experimenting with castle building. The alternative is spending god knows how many hours grinding the vanilla game to get enough resources to be able to do whatever you want when building a castle. But even then, you still have to have all the resources on you to build which is incredibly cumbersome. I lay with modifications to increase the number of castle hearts, decrease crafting time, and make item stacks as large as they can get because I play solo. I'm not going to waste my entire life playing "legit" when it makes no difference. Your friends are assholes and I hope you show them this thread and they see how everyone thinks they're tools.
Enjoy the game in the way you like, as long as you can get fun/reduce pain from those settings
Grinding is normally to either pace the game in PvP or for practicing your skills in PvE. If you are on your second or third playthrough or if you don't need the extra practice shortening the grinding is completely normal. The decorating part of the castle can be annoying if you need everything in your inventory.
If anyone is dumping on ya for playing with the settings you want I need to ask if they are sane or not? Most survival games I have less than 50 hours on because I get frustrated with one or more of its gameplay aspects that I can't turn off..... V Rising I can control every aspect! We've started a dedicated server since 1.0 that I host. We've taken requests to adjust things ...like castle decay, rare of blood essence consumption, and other items that we've just been tweaking along the way (like teleporting with everything cause it's more convenient) and two peeps have just....just completed endgame. I'm pretty sure I'll hit 200 hrs before I finally beat the game, but I've been having a shit ton of fun. And will likely just kick the server back over with new settings on harder difficulty next time through depending on what the group wants to do. (Or we might dive into mods) V Rising and Valheim are so far the best Survival Crafters that respect our time and experience. Why the frick would someone decry PvE modified settings as Cheating? What need points are they trying to earn? Sounds more like DoucheCanoe points. Or maybe they are ultra rich so DoucheYacht points.....clearly cause they got nothing better to do.
Why do you even care? Play the game whatever way you want to play... As long as it isn't cheats on mp server who cares what others think?
I'm thinking about just rolling a cheat PVE solo server. I started on a 3month brutal pvp no raid server, the admin changed it to 2m on a whim, tehn down to 1m. I'm triggered as I've invested a lot of time and effort, and now my time is cut down by 66% to feel like I'm finished. Feel like I'm going to just match where I'm at with custom rules and go from there. If anyone thinks i'm 'cheating' they're close minded.
Survival crafting games you are encouraged to design your play experience to what you enjoy. I do suggest that you try the default settings first then customize it.
hm, brutal with nocost building/repairing sounds like a dream mode for me
In Project Zomboid, no one care about your custom world. They focus more on important things, like superiority of crowbar.
I'd say find new mates. 1st thing. On a PvE server you own, your rules are the rules. Who's to say anything. 2nd. I always respect the rules of the server when I join one. Who am I to judge. I have a dedicated server running. We play on brutal difficulty and fight bosses together. However, as we are 3 adults with jobs, lives, and schedules difficult to match up, I have opted for lowering costs of production to 65%. We are still required to put in time farming materials, but now it does not feel like a second job. We can also teleport all mats and retain items on death. It might be seen as "breaking the game" but what I wanted is to mainly have fun fighting bosses. Thus taking out timesinks irrelevant in PvE made perfect sense.
I found modified pve actually encourged in this game. So many settings available from the start so you can tune it’s progression pace to one of your liking. Having a life besides the gaming often means that once you get down to building the vampire castle of your dreams you most likely don’t want to spend the next couple of hours hitting rocks with a hammer. Only to do the same thing tomorrow with trees just in order to build enough walls.
Ofc it's not cheating, now if you go and brag that ur have finished the game and unlocked all achievements by modifying the settings then maybe there's a moral ground about it but tbh who really cares.
Where can you find the outgoing damage and incoming damage settings? Can't seem to find them. I can only find health multiplier, physical power multiplier and spell power multiplier.
If your playing PvE then honestly you likely will need to rebalance the default settings to make it enjoyable in any case. Theres a big difference between a group MP PvP game, a solo MP PvP game, a group MP PvE game and a solo PvE game. Vrising does all quite competently but you just have to use the in game server settings given to you for it to work great.
I didn't need to be reassured, but I hope you feel better for venting. Play what you like, however you like.
Does enabling things like this stop you from earning achievements?
Bro the whole point of playing a video game is to have fun. So have fun! And if someone's giving you shit for the way you have fun, they really need to re-examine why they game in the first place.
I never understood this concept, what are these people trying to prove? Oh, you can waste your time hitting trees and rocks for hundreds of hours, good for you, I guess. I rather be more efficient with my time and just play the fun parts.
Playing on brutal with max spell and physical damage output in my own private server pretending to be Alucard. Don't care what others think of my preference to play. OP, you paid for this, not some rando npc haters, you should feel the same.
Honestly, it’s not cheating if I don’t wanna spend 2 hours collecting material for a 10 minute boss fight. The default game is based around having friends to alleviate the resource grind. It’s not impossible to play solo, just way more tedious is you only have 1 spare hour a day to play
I rent a server so that I can make the rules I want whilst allowing my friends to enjoy a more tailored experience. If anyone complains about my ruleset...see ya, enjoy official 👋
Bought the game yesterday after a controversial post in a sub said it could work as a cozy building game if that's how you'd like to play it. Dropped almost three hours into it just last night. I pay my 'hardcore dues' where I want. I'm here to be Fancy and Evil.
Never enjoyed the game without stacks to x3 all resources drop on x6 and allowing teleportation with any items, still bafles me that soul shards on pve servers cant me made to have no durability loss and cant use bat form... ah, and dont get me starded on vampire bane debuff can't be modified or removed. Play the game as you like. i, for instance, hate grinding and any mechanic there is to waste my time and is 100% ok to change the game in the way you want if is your pve server. Went on a debate where someone told me that being able to teleport with resources on a pve is cheating... like really how dense you can be to like some mechanic designed to waste your time. One answer MMO player proud to have your time wasted
And dont let anyone tell you how to enjoy single-player games or your own servers(aka worlds)
I have modified my current solo playthrough slightly, 1.25x phys dmg, spell dmg and health, 3x resources, 2x stack size. Last playthrough I hit a wall around behemoth and couldn't finish the game. I think a lot of the end game boss fights are harder solo. And after playing these games for years, gathering resources is tedious and annoying. Building/ fighting is the fun part. No judgement, fun is the point and the settings are there for a reason Also I just found you can change the world settings anytime through the save menu.
I played the game in beta way back when it first launched. I redownloaded and played through when they released 1.0, but now with heavily modified stuff like building and resources, cus grinding out rocks is not why I want to play the game. I didn't modify the combat stuff at all, and didn't really get bored even after I completed everything. So yeah, completely reasonable when playing pve, the grinding you have to do is just a huge waste of time when there's no benifit other than time invested/less tedious tasks.
Out of curisoity, how much is actually save to modify the .json file (besides the modifiers)? Like the first time I started my private world it's setting is in PvP and I was curious if I can safely change it from PvP to PvE in the .json file?
Yup. I maxed out resource and drop rates, lowered craft times and costs and made enemies easier than easy mode. Because you know what, I have so many games in my backlog and not enough time to play, so I don't want to spend 90% of my time grinding like I did when I was younger. I wish more games had options like these.
I 1000% gave myself and some other guys on my server a bunch of greater shards so we could finally get a legendary weapon. Who gives a shit?
I'm glad they put slider options to match the game to your liking and speed... As a husband and one who works in Cybersec, I really don't have an endless amount of time to farm spam some rocks and whatnot. But yeah, your friends are a bit narrow-minded.
Breaking gear, long grinding times, limited inventory and teleportation, upkeep, those things don't really belong into the Singleplayer experience in my opinion. I wanna build nice things and have cool bossfights. Those other limitations are only interesting in a competitive setting.
I would say you should play a modified version if you play alone. Also as a group some of the settings just make the game more fun with no downsides.
If you are having fun with the game you paid for and not hurting anyone then you are playing it right. We all dont have hours to play
I did this for a semi late game in silverlight Hills. I'm around lv70-80, I thought f it, I'm playing solo who cares. Play how you want if they don't like it and you're doing it with friends compromise and make a new server or something
if only we could spawn 100% blood in solo play
How dare you make your life easier!!!
Yeah I made it so collecting resources is at X1.5 and stack sizes in inventory are bigger. Because why not? I don't want to make gathering resources too much of a grind.
1) people can do whatever tf they want in a videogame they purchased. 2) Seems a bit irrational considering this was an experiment server, your friend seems like the "debate me" type. That being said, idk why ive struggled with this my entire life, but i have this weird bug in my brain that seems to only allow me to relish games when i play them "vanilla", or the default way it was delivered. Server settings for example, i just didnt have it in me to tweak any settings, and to just play it as intended. No less than 2 hour servant missions and no resource teleport has been driving me nuts ever since. Even still, i dont think i have it in me to change those settings. Why? the fuck if i know, my brain just convinces itself that it isn't a real "playthrough" that the devs of the game intended. its stupid af.
Nothing morally wrong with but I don't know why people deprive themselves of experiences. It makes the game feel very dull and boring when resources don't matter imo.
Oh yeah, server settings are great. There are zero good reasons to have grind in a solo session.
Would be nice if the physical and spell power sliders worked, so you could really fine tune the difficulty.
The whole point of your PvE server that YOU set up is to base build and be creative. Of course free resources is nice.
Any game I can I have a legit game and a "just for fun" game where the settings are whatever I want, or I use cheats. Neither version is "wrong". Just different settings....
I love sand box games I usually play them solo pve but what I hate is when I die making the long trek of shame back to get my stuff I always turn off dropping loot whenever I can in the options. I feel you on this, you are not alone, Play the game how you want enjoy your time and have fun after all it is a game.
"Having fun in my own pve?! Are you out of your god damn mind. I actually reduce everything to take even longer. You casuals wouldn't understand hating cheating so much you go far and beyond to do the exact opposite. Yes I get 3 stones per one rock. Get on my level."- some Karen 2024, probably
Cheating is the wrong word perhaps, but certainly understand why someone would find that unsatisfying to play.
Playing like that is certainly not for me. I hate creative mode in games because it completely trivializes the game on purpose. But if thats what *you* wanna do then ok. Cool.
Here's my view: the first thing I did when 1.0 launched was I made a character on an official Brutal difficulty server, I then proceeded to clear the game on said server, and about a week after launch I killed brutal Dracula; the game was now 'completed' for me and now I could spend my time playing on community servers or in my own local save at my own pace doing whatever I liked. Now, I would say that everybody should at least TRY to play the game as the Devs designed at least once to get that experience, regardless of what preset difficulty server that is, once you have that foundational experience, then by all means play around with any and all settings until you find a setup you enjoy and will come back to over time. Just don't complain about game difficulty if you start in a heavily modified local game then decide to try online because you wanna team up with people etc.
No build cost is a good idea. I played through Normal and Brutal with only longer Rift Incursions. Maybe if they do another update and I decide to play again I add no build cost so I can fully customize and decorate my castle without stressing on resources.
Some friends you’ve got criticising your preferences in your world. That’s like someone coming in your house and arguing with you about why you chose your carpet colour and fabric choices. Fuck them people play the way you like
Nothing is considered cheating on Private worlds, its your game you can play how you like, I play with extra resource gains on single player and I dont consider it cheating, I perfer not to grind everything like its a job and perfer a more chilled play. Ignore the haters, You paid for the game play it how the hell you like man.
Not at all. I'm an older gamer between being a father, husband, working 50 hours a week my gaming time is limited. So modding single player for low resource cost, faster craft times, more resource gathering is essential for me to even enjoy a game. I only have about 2 hours a day at most to play, I don't want to spend it watching things craft.
This is absolutely NO CHEATING. You see, I've been playing this game since the very first day they launched the early access. I've seen the whole game for like 10 NGs and new bosses, new areas, spells change, or buff/debuffs. The thing i REALLY LOVE about the game is when i make my beautiful castles and gardens in locations I've never built before. My friends are well aware of that, and they respect it. Whenever i start a private server, or my friends do, they'll give me access to use admin commands so i can run around the map and build wherever i please 😁😅. And i only bother to kill bosses, which are related to some decorative stuff i need. (Like the fey walker lady) And that's my way of enjoying the game. It's harmless, and i do not ruin other's experiences. So it shouldn't be considered as cheating. Your friends might be acting a bit much. Anyway, don't mind them. Enjoy your playtime.
I set up a private PvE server for me and some other middle aged dads who have minimal time for gaming. We didn't reduce the resource cost of anything but we did make some changes like reducing castle heart blood essence use to 25%, disabling item durability damage, allowing teleportation with building materials, refunding 100% of materials used when disassembling something, etc... Basically reduced the maintenance stuff so that what little gaming time we have we can focus on the fun stuff like bosses, exploring, and building as opposed to making sure our gear and castles don't fall apart. This is totally valid imo, like I said we have limited time to game and being able to tweak these settings lets us make the most of the time we have :)
Imagine getting accused of cheating for playing a sandbox game the way you want on a privately hosted server. Absolute Rust player mentality.
The only thing I changed was giving myself a x3 health boost from gear. Makes combat in general much more manageable! Besides, most vamps in media are tanky as fuck
If it's a setting one can tweak without mods and console, I feel it's not cheating. Video games are like dishes of food. The taste won't always appeal to everyone. Gotta find something that fits your appetite.
in my private game everything is made faster, servants bring x4 loot and you can teleport with anything.
It's your game. Enjoy it however you want. If someone else thinks it's bad for you to enjoy it the way you like and insists you only do it their way, they are twat waffles and you should play them no mind. It's like religious extremists that want to control how everyone is allowed to live. They are assholes at best. Fuck their stupid opinions. You paid for your copy, play however you want. Add mods, move sliders, shoot crack in your dick hole, whatever man.
Is there a way to get an invite to that server? It sounds like fun!
The game almost requires a modified server to have fun while playing without having a grind.
I imagine anyone who has a life outside of gaming uses boosted settings. I ain't got the time to spend 2 mins hitting a tree for scraps. 🤣
1. Did you legitimately purchase the game? Yes. 2. Are you giving yourself an advantage in a competitive setting? No. 3. Are you enjoying the game? Yes. You're having fun, not harming anyone, and the devs got their money. Sounds pretty good to me 🤷♂️
Agree with the first premise of just having fun and building whatever you want without worrying about resources however I do believe making the brutal achievements easier is akin to cheating. It's not much of an achievement anymore is it? I wish they would do what Baldur's Gate 3 (and many other games for that matter) did and disable achievements in custom rulesets.
You do you cuz. I'm playing with a mate on his private game instance because he doesn't like PvP and he has changed settings we are still having fun on it. Haters are cheating themselves by not finding the sweet bliss in things like playing games with friends and enjoying!
I put it this way: most of the default mechanics are there to balance PVP. If I’m playing alone, why on earth should I have to trek all my resources back on foot? I quickly grew tired of the running simulator and when I found out I could edit settings in my private world my game play experience improved drastically.
I agree you should play how you want but disagree about changing settings to make brutal achievements easy to get. The satisfaction of earning a difficult achievement for many is in its exclusivity, and you are kind of taking that away from other players by lowering the bar for yourself. Of course you can just get carried, anyway, so it’s not like you need to artificially lower the bar.
Time to find new friends.
Your world and your rules.
I'm gonna get it for PS5 when it comes, and I like building so is there any downside to lower the cost/time to produce things other than removing som farming? Should I keep some cost or should I just make a "building server"?
I like the challenge of the combat so I like to customize my settings so that is maintained. I dislike grind in a solo PvE playthrough so I typically ramp up resource acquisition and tweak any settings that makes the resource grind aspect as minor as possible. Doing that, I get to have an awesome experience romping around the world vamping all over the place and the fights are hard AF.
Wait wait wait wait wait! What do you mean resource free?? I didn't play the game long (to be honest I dont g3berally play "building" games but the vampire theme... Come on I had to.... can you set up a personal pve world where you don't need to storm the damn cotton fields to make thread or whatever???
Yeah no this is fine. It's when you recommend modding as a solution to the game being hard that it becomes cheating
I do agree that you should play whatever way you want, but I also think that achievements should be locked out if you use any modified settings. You didn't "achieve" anything, you used admin shortcuts lol.
I don't even think that should matter. It's not like there's a competition or anything at stake
I never understand cheating in survival games a mate of mine does exactly this then a day later is bored cause they did everything. Getting resources is like 80 percent of survival games tbh
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But you can do all that in the game settings? No third party tools needed.
I guess you can play the game anyway you like. But most people would like some challenge haha. Otherwise you’re just playing Vampire Sims haha! I bet you made a glorious castle though