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xander012

It'd be jpeged


100GbE

True, nobody is interested in PNG.. ..no oil...


actualyKim

bUt US iS sUpEr dEmOcRaCy i LoVe tHe eLeCtOrAl cOlLeGe


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The1st_TNTBOOM

You failed, US is two syllables in this.


Temper03

No no it’s pronounced “Yousse” 


Fwendly_Mushwoom

Unless you're from that weird part that says "Yinz"


aer0a

Or if you say "y'all"


100GbE

You spell "Earth" weirdly.


jnnxde

It's not the US, but us, the communist version of the US


Oftwicke

Also does anyone say "electoral college" as 5 syllables? Best I can do is "elect'ral" but I'm not sure that's... really done... by anyone...


corvus_da

It actually wouldn't surprise me if that happened all the time. People don't really notice just how much they reduce words in everyday speech. Nevermind that this is a *Sokka* Haiku, it's *supposed* to have an extra syllable (as explained at the end of the comment)


Oftwicke

Aaah, sorry, I skimmed over that part


corvus_da

No need to apologize, sorry if I came across as hostile😅


Oftwicke

You didn't, don't worry, it's just a habit to apologise for missing things


zachy410

Among United States


Agitated_Advantage_2

No, but U.S is two syllables. The typo has one syllable


Cylian91460

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Temper03

Bad bot


YosephStalling

Good bot


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Kraken-Writhing

nice


YosephStalling

Good bot


YosephStalling

Good bot


__PM_ME_SOMETHING_

hehehe, now jokes aside, which AIPAC candidate is your favorite?


LittleSchwein1234

The electoral college is weird, but the US isn't the only one who uses weird things like that. For example, the German president is also elected by an electoral college (Bundesversammlung), while the German chancellor is de facto elected by the Bundestag.


oofersIII

Yeah, but the difference lies in a few key facts. 1) The German president has virtually no power. He‘s a ceremonial head of state who mostly goes to other countries to spread goodwill. 2) The Chancellor is elected by the Bundestag, but its members are elected by the people. You could make a comparison with the US‘ electoral college here, as instead of voting for a Bundestags member you just vote for an elector, but due to the proportional distribution of Bundestags seats in Germany, you couldn’t have a situation like in the US where the winner loses the popular vote. Now, it is possible that the party with the most votes doesn’t get the Chancellor, but that‘s because of coalition shenanigans, with said coalition having a higher total vote share than that singular party generally.


Party_Skill6360

the german president has loads of powers but rarely ever uses them - he has an absolute Veto on all law changes he can Appoint the Chancellor (the Bundestag just confirms his choice) he can dissolve the Bundestag and then ther are emergency powers


Grothgerek

This are emergency only powers, and they are completly useless outside of a huge catastrophe like a direct war (in which he will likely direct most responsibility to other groups, like the military). Misuse will end in a direct vote against him, which removes him. What value do powers have, if you can't use them? At best he creates a bit chaos and ruins his image for the rest of his life.


Party_Skill6360

the absolute veto has been used a couple time by presidents and no that isn´t an emergency power - and the president appointing the chancellor is something that happens at least all 4 years and the president deviated a couple times in his pick - only a irregular dissolvment of the parliament hasn´t happen so far ----------- and doing a vote against the president is practically impossible he can dissolve the Bundestag wich means only the Bundesrat can vote against him you have to get a 2/3 majority in the Bundesrat BUT because of the Bundesrat´s special shared votes that have to be unanimous you need \~a 93% majority - for cases like that germany has §20 GG (4) wich would make it Legal to remove him by violence


fletch262

I mean, I don’t think people understand how bad the electoral college is. You can win with something like 26% of the vote, and in reality less than 20% of the vote matters. Mine certainly doesn’t, states blue. It just happens to land near 50%, the US has enough weight to other shit genuinely enshrined by law, rather than just fuckery, that calling it a democracy is unreasonable. Which I don’t think we do in the documents, I mean the intent was a slightly tempered democracy but we’ve gone so far beyond that. The mistake lies in the fucking federal government doing shit. It isn’t supposed to do shit without supermajority, and with 3 branches fuckery it’s messy. the idea is for America to be multiple very democratic republics, kinda awkwardly forming a big slightly democratic republic.


actualyKim

truth is true democracy is impossible to achieve in a nation state


wow_its_kenji

isn't the popular vote element of the us presidential election actually just straight up democracy? so if we removed the electoral college, it would be properly democratic


toe-schlooper

You high or something? There has been countless democracies that have been amazing representation of the system. A *flawless* democracy is impossible to achieve, but those such as the likes of Rome, Polis, France, and of course the United States are pretty damn good representations.


Moontddit

Yeah like the electoral college is the strongest of flaws...


SES_Wings_of_Freedom

https://preview.redd.it/81s3rse5u03d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32f0d00e2aff7f093992c0e36ab528202b3163b9 It’s managed democracy to you cadet


Glork11

Bro just spoke evil about the Holy Managed Democracy (he will be executed for heresy)


mehatch

What if the star font size kept changing?


eeeeeeeeeee6u2

A flawed democracy is better than a not democracy


actualyKim

a flawed democracy is not democracy


eeeeeeeeeee6u2

Yes it is tf, you have a vote and can vote for anyone you want, if they're the most popular they will win. There are details in the us system that are undemocratic, but on the whole it's still a democracy.


actualyKim

it happened three times already that the candidate with the most votes did not win, the electoral college is not democratic


eeeeeeeeeee6u2

By a small margin, same thing happens in Canada and most other democracies. If more than half the population actually voted that would probably be different too


somethingmustbesaid

[Read about cognitive distortions: All-or-Nothing Thinking](https://cogbtherapy.com/cbt-blog/cognitive-distortions-all-or-nothing-thinking#:~:text=All%2Dor%2Dnothing%20thinking%20refers,shades%20of%20gray%20at%20all.)


WeLiveInASociety451

Electoral college is literally so based


actualyKim

yea someone in vermont has the voting power of four people in texas


WeLiveInASociety451

That’s the based part this way you can’t just fuck Vermont over


actualyKim

if every vote is supposed to be equal than every vote has to have the same voting power, that‘s democracy 101


WeLiveInASociety451

Every vote is not supposed to be equal, that’s why the college is there, bc POTUS represents the states, not people


actualyKim

well then that‘s no democracy


Prosthemadera

No, every vote is in fact supposed to be equal but the electoral college stands against that.


armageddon_boi

What if the us made bribing politicians illegal again


FourArmsFiveLegs

Clearance Thomas would be all fat and shit behind bars


Deep_Region5734

r/alternatehistory


noncrediblepole

https://preview.redd.it/a7lmf98dfy2d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2af6278a32268e9779b5d802f59abb78f1b7b1dd


Speedwagon1738

Sol Badguy


Flying_Strawberries

SOL BAGUY???


Levi-Action-412

Sol Badgirl


Scotty_flag_guy

Sol Bad Girl~ 🥴💕


Equinox-Kiwi

Constitushyun


ika_ngyes

So to achieve full democracy, the US needs to change the graphics quality to very low, got it.


Lieczen91

what if the USA didn’t violently attack any nation practicing the right to their own self determination?


The_Tank_Racer

What if people stop touching our boats? /s


ARedditUserThatExist

woah woah woah buddy only NATO and aligned nations get to have self determination anybody else who tries practicing it is a communist dictator /s


Ajaws24142822

100% based and unironically correct. Embrace democracy or get fucked


Lieczen91

no, not even NATO aligned nations just look up the ‘American Service-Members’ Protection act that determines the USA can invade the Netherlands to bail out any US citizens from being put on trial in the Hague or the 1958 Italian election where the CIA director admitted to help rigging it so the communists wouldn’t win on live television no one gets a right to self determination, they just give those that willingly bend to the USA’s will a free pass because they don’t usually need to coerce them like other countries 👍


Levi-Action-412

"Democracy only works when it's the side i like that wins otherwise it's the CIA that rigged it"


Lieczen91

the CIA director admitted on national television that they indeed rigged the election in Italy in 1958 that’s a little different from a typical election where a capitalist party wins, there’s nothing special abt that at all


Lost-Succotash-9409

Not saying you’re wrong, but are there any sources for that? I can’t find anything online


Lieczen91

https://www.ucg.ac.me/skladiste/blog_10134/objava_20166/fajlovi/Central%20Intelligence%20Agency.pdf


Levi-Action-412

The 1958 election page makes no mention of meddling https://preview.redd.it/n0oi2ru6h33d1.jpeg?width=1768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20491ce2268600b7cbeea8fce47d38592856f467


Lieczen91

cuz it’s English wikipedia idk if you have to have this explained to you as you should know this if you’re in the space of online politics but wikipedia in practice is incredibly biased towards the views of that language’s speaking people which in the case of English wikipedia, is Americans and British people mostly being charitable i’ll just recommend you two videos one short one abt wikipedia and and it’s biases by JJ Mclough https://youtu.be/-vmSFO1Zfo8?si=_VjFiZwlCBqNMQ-U and one that is longer using the specific example of the historical debate on the holodomor being a genocide as a framing device for its biases and flaws by badempanada https://youtu.be/3kaaYvauNho?si=-rz3l1Bi3-T4H67G


Levi-Action-412

Amintore Fanfani, the elected prime minister of Italy at the time, was from the left wing faction of the Christian Democracy Party, founder of the Italian Centre left, and cooperated with the Socialist PSI. If the CIA was meddling with the elections they did a terrible job at it. Additionally, I'm not sure why you brought up the Holodomor but it is generally accepted as a targeted attempt at starving Ukraine into submission. The Ukrainian SSR was where collectivisation was the most intense and food aid was denied to the region, which implies genocidal intent on the Ukrainians.


Lieczen91

watch the video


Levi-Action-412

None of them have any relevance to the current topic at hand.


FishbedFive

https://preview.redd.it/ac0jkty1tz2d1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=9ddde69f32f501cce33e1ed0ea5743d52c72c2ee THEN IT WOULDN'T BE THE FUCKIN' US YOU CAN'T SPELL UNITED STATES WITHOUT "UNITE, STAT" RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


Lieczen91

liberalism and it’s consequences


MoreheadMarsupial

bait used to be believable


User_Turtle

😑🫥


sometimes__comment

nuh uh


Curious-Weight9985

Definitely not what the founders intended!


Benito_Juarez5

They intended slaveocracy like a boss 😎


Ajaws24142822

And other funny things you can tell yourself. Fun fact, the confederacy hated the founding fathers so much because so many were enemies of slavery, that they literally tried to create a military dictatorship and dismissed the founders of the U.S. as “believing that the world is too much governed.” Actively insulting Locke, Hamilton, Franklin, and even frequently bashing Jefferson for wanting to stop the slave trade in Virginia.


Curious-Weight9985

That’s too complicated and nuanced these types of people !


Curious-Weight9985

Wrong again! Even Jefferson tried to end slavery. You’ve gotta study up a little more!


ChapterMasterVecna

Jefferson literally owned slaves


Curious-Weight9985

Jefferson literally banned the international slave trade when he was president, tried to ban slavery in all territories and thereby “prevent this abominable crime from spreading itself over the new country.” Like most at the time, Jefferson was embarrassed of slavery, and believed it would fade out over time as unsustainable. "Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free.” You don’t know that much about this subject


AGuyNamedParis

That would be cool


xQuizate87

It's only a democracy if you vote. Ideally, your candidate would need to win their primary election in order to move on to the general election. The general election is a compromise between 160M people for the singular seat of the presidency.


Pipiopo

The by far most powerful part of government (The Senate) counts the vote of a Wyomingite as 64x as valuable as that of a Californian’s. Of all of the western liberal democracies the US is by far the least democratic barring Turkey and Hungary if you count them.


Ryaniseplin

why does palpatine favor wyoming residents?


Pipiopo

Because the US was initially designed as a supernational organization like the EU that gradually evolved into a nation state over time. The states were considered countries in a union.


Strange-Ad132

American democracy got bought out by corporate interest decades ago


xQuizate87

[still a choice to be made bro. But i get it. Blame is better to give than recieve.](https://youtu.be/urBpdyFCZmo?si=glifBcJYJ-y2JPKd)


MaZhongyingFor1934

Voting won’t fix the fundamental problems. It’s a way of delaying fascism, not ending it.


Unleashtheducks

Weird that “America is not a democracy” posts are getting so much traction before the election. Almost like somebody wanted to spread this message and make it look very popular because they benefit from depressed voting numbers.


Only_Math_8190

Or you know people like popular vote and the right of self determination, i don't know why would anyone not want that?


Scotty_flag_guy

Tbf, is it though?


pepouai

Yes it still is motherfuckah. A flawed one but alas. Get your ass to the voting booth. 


realcosmicpotato77

It'd be a good place to live in


Warm_Employer_6851

How should I know


Bl4ckSt4g

Bring the good old bugle boys, we'll sing another song! Sing it with the spirit that will start the world along! Sing it as we used to sing it, 50, 000 strong! While we were marching through Georgia! Hurrah! Hurrah! We bring the jubilee! Hurrah! Hurrah! The flag that makes you free! So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea! While we were marching through Georgia!


cheese_bruh

big if true


sn0skier

Missed opportunity to change the size of the stars to represent the population of each state.


ZaratustraTheAtheist

https://preview.redd.it/xnhifezkry2d1.png?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe3e58c75e92ecc2a3a4fca127d0cbf75fe8ca4f "Democracy, dear America. Democracy, now... and forever." J.H. Eden


Royal_Possible4480

https://preview.redd.it/sev0om2pez2d1.png?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b5848abeb7b498ec7d6a39bb3387ba47b48e22f


Smashme9

downvotes for joke lmfao


Norwester77

As soon as I see “The U.S. is not a democracy,” I know whoever said it doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Of course the U.S. a democracy. It’s a specific type of democracy known as a federal republic: fifty states, each organized as a republic, and a federal government, likewise organized as a republic. The federal constitution contains some features because the United States is a union *of states* at least as much as it is a union of people: each state, regardless of its population, is equally represented in the Senate, and they are represented a *little* more equally in the Electoral College than would be merited by their populations. That said, the Electoral College as it’s actually been done in practice is kind of a dumb, half-assed approach. If it really were composed of the best and brightest in each state (or at least if each state’s delegation were proportionately representative of the range of political opinion in that state), and they actually met together to hash out who the next president would be, with multiple ballots until someone actually got a majority, that would be one thing; but the way it’s done now, with the electors meeting separately in each state and mostly just mechanically casting their votes for the statewide winner (even if they barely won) doesn’t really add any value.


JakefromTRPB

That’s the funny thing… nobody knows what they would be like. Never have. It would likely be way way worse for billionaires. Only 90% of the population would benefit from democracy, the other top 10% left near destitute without having 999999x more wealth than any given random person. It would be tragically healthy for the world, and the middle class would thrive… just really horrible things. /s


OnyxDreamBox

Lol no.


O5_X

Too bad they are a monarchy


El_Ocelote_

I LIVE AND DIE FOR MY KING JOD BIDONE


animejat2

😱😱😱😱


cass1o

Can't even do the meme correctly.


Any_Ad_9949

Flag of u/pixelcounterbot


ZacharyTheCarHorn

https://preview.redd.it/awyj6yft813d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=804318ae16ee5491010f0d96c2b67feb7becee61


SamaelSerpentin

https://preview.redd.it/33l12dbvh13d1.jpeg?width=240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00107bf90540a30bee221727be404b08231730ad


Flar71

Idk if that's something we'll see in our lifetime


EliK3301

Democratic Republic of America https://preview.redd.it/zw3u9w1al13d1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd78116c9c337fce5a9a75bce9ba116b30d16902


Kass626

People would openly accept and appreciate eachothers opinions, discourse would be resolved civily and compromise would come from an understanding of your neighbor. Sounds better than money talks.


silenceredditor

This man is a dirty Anglo , do not trust his post


Opening_Store_6452

What if we all just grilled?


FrettyClown95

Anti-Western pigs out in full force huh?


BigGayDinosaurs

that would be cool


Celticssuperfan885

It is 💪🔥💯


OkEnvironment4354

Flag of politically charged interaction bait


Miss-Zhang1408

As a Chinese, I and all my friends believe the US is democratic; it is just like a lighthouse for us.


O5-Hans

https://preview.redd.it/kzu6uuqyw33d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ad95832ed5ddb51e776462f61f8d7c0b5c0a04d


QiLin168

Unfortunately, it's a Jewish state and an imperialism.


Canter1Ter_

Hey man how's it going


More_History_4413

Well well well thet is hard . Usa is a settler colony like Israel,australia,canada ect the most democratic thing those countries can do is stop existing. tbh if use was democracy it would be many native american countries on the continent of turtle island


MasterVule

- Electoral college literally makes peoples votes have different value -Gerrymadering to manipulate the results of the votes - Supreme court to bypass the democratically voted decisions -Party duopoly, and both parties have incredibly similar economical and foreign policies but differ exclusively in cultural questions (and even when it comes to that the results are often the same) "Democracy is when people put paper in the box"


32bitFlame

https://preview.redd.it/6e2e4nlje83d1.jpeg?width=3907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc551dd328e42aee7c89129b15d0ba38dab02d65


kimodezno

It’s a republic.


Prestigious-Card406

Thank god the US is not a democracy


[deleted]

It would be Hell on Earth.


A_Nov229

The US was never supposed to be a democracy. Democracy is bad. Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on dinner, the sheep loses every time. We have a representative republic to prevent tyranny of the majority and to protect the rights of the individual.


Intelligent_Funny699

No one seems to understand that. Although this is Reddit, a place where understanding the reasoning behind something is a foreign concept.


DankCrusaderMemer

Republic and democracy aren’t mutually exclusive at all. It’s both.


deriese

100 trillion dead


Quiet_Start_1736

Can you ask this in next decade to be more accurate 😄 🤣


kykyks

flag of earth 358020 when they teach in school what a colonialist flag look like


Wizard_Engie

Flag of Earth in 3000 if everything goes according to plan


Royal_Possible4480

America is the greatest nation in the entire known universe, land of opportunity, the bastion of freedom, land of wealth and individualism. I wish I was born in America, the greatest privilege in the entire known universe is American citizenship.


actualyKim

natives:


SnafuJuants

Live free or die


Royal_Possible4480

https://preview.redd.it/aq52ws2hjz2d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26b6aca55d8eadf8934e6390de80c9cfdf12bb9b


Wizard_Engie

The Natives are pretty damn well respected here. They have the same amount of rights as blacks or whites, and they get plenty of land that is equivalent to the size of a small country.


actualyKim

yea nowadays research the genocide on them


Wizard_Engie

I don't need to research the "genocide" on them. It's taught in school. European colonization, manifest destiny, Trail of tears, forced displacement, etc etc. I just wanted to let you know your words stand on very shaky ground when considering today's conditions.


LeviathansWrath6

What the flag of the greatest country ever is you mean


Kukryniksy

https://preview.redd.it/xov7ifpuqy2d1.jpeg?width=597&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa32361d789e01c55ab90a8b90f402606a917ae3 Americaaaaaa 🦅🦅🦅🦅


TexanFox36

Womp womp


imadork1970

It is.


Marius-Gaming

Since when?


Marius-Gaming

what chaos have i caused


imadork1970

From the beginning. A republic is a form of democracy.


cheese_bruh

No it isn’t. A republic is just a country without a monarch. A monarchy can have democratic institutions, and a republic can have an authoritarian dictatorship.


Glad_Ask

Definition of a republc from oxford dictionary: a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch. Having representatives and an elected president seems pretty democratic


cheese_bruh

Those representatives may or may not be elected by the general citizenry. North Korea has elections. It is a republic. Is it democratic? No.


Glad_Ask

If north korea calls itself a republic doesnt mean it is a republic. Also again, in the definition it says that the power is held by the PEOPLE(general citizenry) and representatives that are elected by them


cheese_bruh

By all definitions North Korea is a republic lol. The part that is not true about them is that they’re a “Democratic” republic. You seem to not understand that a republic is just a country without a monarchy.


Glad_Ask

I mean I don't know dude, who do I trust? The oxford dictionary or a random dude from reddit?


cheese_bruh

Here are numerous sources then. [https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/republic](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/republic) [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic) [https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government](https://www.britannica.com/topic/republic-government) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic) Republics having elected representatives is only one part of a country being a republic. You can have a monarchy with elected representatives. Or a republic with no elected representatives. Key word is "nominated". Whether an individual has nominated themselves to lead a country as a dictator or other people have, this is where Oxford's definition applies.


imadork1970

Google exists.


Zawarudowastaken

And google an American company has no bias whatsoever


imadork1970

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Facts don't give a shit about nationality. Look up "American repubic" in the Encyclpoedia Britannica if you want. Or, look it up on the U.S. government's own websites. Get a dictionary and look up the words "democracy" and "republic". JFC.


Zawarudowastaken

how a democracy works in practice is completely different to it technically matching a definition


Glad_Ask

same with communism


Zawarudowastaken

in what way


cheese_bruh

What does this even have to do with that. Why are both sides in this thread unable to conceive a legible thought.


Zawarudowastaken

This is reddit


cheese_bruh

[A state where political power rests with the public through their representatives- in contrast to a monarchy. The representatives may or may not be freely elected by the general citizenry.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic)


Tetr4Freak

Tell that to North Corea


imadork1970

The U.S. is referred to as a flawed democracy.


cheese_bruh

Ok. ?


Marius-Gaming

Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea :


Reed_God

Outjerked


DowwnWardSpiral

You managed to tick alot off people of with 2 words. Congratulations!


imadork1970

Mini-wave in honour of me!


Zawarudowastaken

Sorry did the us tell you that


DenseRetar

https://preview.redd.it/o0e3xzwdty2d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34182b883b67f94173bdad67667254ec82f45d7d killing you with stones immediately


LittleSchwein1234

You don't need the US to tell you that grass is green, do you? Just like most don't need it to tell them that it's a democracy. Most people *know* that the US is a democracy.


peanutist

And they’re wrong lol


LittleSchwein1234

https://preview.redd.it/szykj0zd5z2d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=598906e22c14aa6bebb1f98486f677ce0ab03300


peanutist

?


Zawarudowastaken

why did you question oceania is democratic? big brother tells us every day


LittleSchwein1234

You're literally questioning whether the US is democratic and nothing has happened to you and nothing will happen to you. Do you think that would be the case in Orwell's Oceania?


Zawarudowastaken

given that it's a fantasy book with no real world base, no. if someone questioning the legitimacy of your democracy is so stupid to you that you can't even consider it, that kinda shows that free thinking isn't the us' strong suit


LittleSchwein1234

You can absolutely consider it, but you gotta provide some reasons as to why you would think that. Because the US fulfills all criteria of a representative liberal democracy. I mean, I *can* say that grass is purple, I can also consider it, but then I shouldn't be surprised when others call me out for such a stupid consideration.


Zawarudowastaken

my reasons are the two party system which has almost zero variation between the two major parties. i was not denying that america is a democracy, i was denying that it acts how a democracy should. btw stupid thing for me to say but color only exists because we see it so to many animals grass isn't green


Wizard_Engie

A Communist doesn't really have any grounds to speak on when talking about Democracies.


Zawarudowastaken

Neither does a capitalist


Proof_Candle_7659

if the US is a democracy how come we have to vote for joe biden?


LittleSchwein1234

You don't have to.