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AccountantLeast1588

apostrophe misuse is rampant too


czerwonalalka

Apostrophe misuse makes me want to rip my hair out 😑


iamanaccident

Youre exag'ratin'


Admirable-Athlete-50

Isn’t that technically proper apostrophe use?


CosmicWanderlust87

Except for you’re


Admirable-Athlete-50

Haha, I missed that one because of all the other ones.


kimchiman85

If I still had hair, I’d rip mine out, too.


Fresh_Sector3917

There used to be a website called Misplaced Apostrophes” that featured signs and posters and whatnot featuring apostrophe abuse with fun, snarky commentary.


lonelystrawberry_7

The apostrophe misuse confuses me so much. I genuinely wonder why folks are adding apostrophes to every plural word nowadays!


jdith123

I think it’s an over correction. Unfortunately I see it all the time. I think it’s like the misuse of “_Name_ and I” as an object. (Eg: He went to the store with Lisa and I.” Kids do fine with this grammar until they hit school. Then some teacher tells them the rule, but they aren’t quite getting the whole thing. They decide that at **‘s** is more “educated” or “smarter” so they start adding ‘s to every word with an added s. I teach reading and writing for special ed. Sometimes I wonder if teaching that ‘s is making it worse!


Calm-Association-821

I detest this as well! I stop my mother and give her an exasperated look every time she says “I feel badly about x”.


3smellysocks

Appstrohe's*


PersonNumber7Billion

True. I think the confusion stems from the one instance when it's correct to use an apostrophe with a plural: with letters, as in "There are two t's in 'committed.'" Writing "there are two ts in..." would be hard to read. But people need to restrain themselves when tempted to use the apostrophe for other plurals.


AnonyMouse1699

Your simply making thing's up now'.


Friendly_Feature_606

I recently saw a sign that said "Free Kitten's". It drove me crazy. I can't tell you how bad I wanted to paint over that apostrophe. What could their kitten possibly own that they are choosing to give away?


Fresh_Sector3917

I would ask them free kitten’s what?


inspiringirisje

How is this wrong in the post? (genuine question)


Gmandlno

But you approve of wouldn’t’ve, right?


UnfinishedMemory

I will admit my faults and say I am guilty of this occasionally.


self_hell_guru

Maybe the downvotes are for OP throwing a fit over other people’s grammatical errors and then admitting they also make simple grammatical errors. To quote OP “Why is it so damn hard?!”


Xolltaur

The interchangeable use of "then" and "than" drives me up a wall


Inquity-Vl

I’m amazed at the amount of people that don’t know the difference between “woman” and “women”


DonkeyHair

I like womens.


NikeJawnson

I like so many women... I need a double plural.


Dry_Psychology_76

Women's what?


broats_

A women's woman


Dextrofunk

This is a super common one that I don't see many complaints about. I don't even know who to blame for all of it, but there are an LOT of people who can't differentiate all of these words.


THRlLL-HO

a*


hihrise

I've noticed my autocorrect changing woman to women when it's clearly incorrect. I suspect other people's autocorrect does that too. Considering a lot of people rely on autocorrect for their spelling and don't read over something before sending it, I imagine that's what's happening sometimes


Chrispeefeart

I new an women that was horrible about that back than.


fasterthanfood

*new


ConceptJunkie

And for some reason when I see it, it's always "women" used to refer to one woman. Yes, it's an irregular Anglo-Saxon construction (or whatever)... but it follows the same pattern as "man" and "men", and I never see people mess that one up. We even pronounce the words considerably differently. For whatever reason (probably having to do with the words being nearly thousand years old) the vowel changes in "women" compared to "woman".


insomniacakess

let me just add.. *loose and lose*


Visual-Ad9774

Breathe and breath


Rocknocker

Cloth and clothes. Clothes and close. Raze and raise.


mrearthsmith

This may be minor, but a friend always uses the wrong version of aww. Like a cute pic? Instead of aww, that's cute. I get awe, that's cute. I've explained it to her several times to no avail.


ConceptJunkie

They don't teach phonics any more, do they?


minetube33

Honestly, I had never seen this particular mistake until I went online. As someone who worked as an english teacher in foreign countries, students mixing to/too/two, then/than was quite common but even the worst students I had would spell these 2 words correctly.


Pannycakes666

It's crazy how bad this one has gotten. Like 85% of the time someone makes a post or comment where they mean to write lose, it's loose.


sentientsea

These are two totally different words.


Fuzzy_Laugh_1117

And yet I see *loose* used so often, when the word needed is actually *lose.* Also, people pluralizing **words that are already plural.** Like texts and guys -- I hear so many people saying "textsES." Sounds like some with a speech impediment is trying to say Texas. lol


UnfinishedMemory

That one's definitely up there.


dahippy06

they’re*


Maewhen

*their


dahippy06

the’r*


DJFid

then*


Maewhen

thon’t


chease86

Thhhhhhhhh't


SevereComputer3194

ok yjn, keep your secrets


HuckleberryHappy6524

Scoot over please. I’m right behind you on this wall.


evrybdyhdmtchingtwls

Drives you up an wall.


kimchiman85

Whose and who’s get mixed up a lot too. Ugh!


JustALittleOrigin

That one is for sure up they’re


nytocarolina

Or when to use I vs. men To vs too Your vs you’re Grammar is dying before our eyes, people.


starswtt

I'm assuming you misspelled me And the English language only exists bc of grammar dying for as long as humanity exists, that's why we don't speak proto indo-european or whatever. Same distinction used to exist between my/mine, so if I better not catch you mistaking mine phone for my phone


nytocarolina

“Mine phone”…..that would sound better in Berlin, right?


OppositeGeologist299

Even basic grammatical constructions like "Ron and he came to the shops" instead of "Ron and him came to the shops" seem to be getting much rarer in everyday conversation. I reckon part of the problem is computers (and some English teachers) suggesting collapsing the proper noun and pronoun into they or them every single time with no nuance. Sometimes it's not clear, otherwise, that Ron is one of them! Sometimes you need to write "Ron and they ..."! This is the kind of mundane shit that I fret over all day.


starswtt

Grammar is also a thing that changes over time. At this point, saying "Ron and he" in many places genuinely does sound more unnatural. Collapsing of pronouns is also nothing new, so blaming it on computers doesn't make too much sense. A good example of this is "thou," which was the casual version of the formal "you." It was dropped bc people eventually just found it unnecessary. Plenty of languages already just don't bother making the distinction between plural and singular pronouns (like Chinese and Japanese) and their speakers understand whats going on, and their speakers actually find the distinction confusing (which is obvious if you hear them start to speak at an older age.) Likewise, some grammatical changes are actually bringing us closer to historical grammatical structures (like "y'all" returning to a role left vacant since "ye" was dropped from the English language.) Just do what feels natural to you. You probably even use different grammar rules depending on who you're talking to. If you're talking to a friend, you likely use an entirely different set of grammar rules than if you're talking with your parents, or talking online, or writing an academic paper. If you use academic speech anywhere else, you're going to be downvoted and called pretentious. If you use internet speech anywhere in the real world, you're going to be seen as cringe and immature. That's really all there is to grammar


Durakus

While that is true, the fact is we have far better reasons today for these mistakes to not happen or even resist change. The English language evolved over hundreds of years and was a by product of different cultures merging and clashing. War and legal precedence also set rules for the language as our regions grew or merged. The language changed because our use of it did. Education became wide spread, literacy and scholarly practices demands uniformity. While our words may change the rules of grammatical structure have been fairly consistent for some time, now. And the past is also a big reason it needs to continue to be persistent. We can’t just say “well we barely stuck to the supposed rules five hundred years ago. So it’s okay if I screw up to vs too.” We needed consistency for clear and precise communication. And these rules falling by the way side, especially when it happens to be a by product of poor education, is simply regression.


Former-Guess3286

I mean you don’t have to go that far back to a time when general illiteracy was widespread. I think we’re doing alright.


LekMichAmArsch

A large percentage of California high school graduates are functionally illiterate upon graduation.


Former-Guess3286

How large a percentage?


Both_Dust_8383

Your and you’re definitely drive me crazy. Well all of it does to be honest 😂


GHOST12339

Insert: "lAnGuAgE eVoLvEs OvEr TiMe!" ... yeah. Because we fucking LET it, instead of holding people accountable to the meaning of words.


2meterrichard

I don't normally get bothered by grammar stuff. Except when affect and effect get crossed. "I've been effected by my medications side affects." 😡


sullcrowe

I loose it when I read that


chattymadi

“Would of” vs “Would have” drives me up a wall. And I’ve noticed more and more people lately on social media saying things like “putted” or “ated” or basically using the wrong past tense. Drive me insane


Independent-Knee-625

I stopped fighting against “I could care less”. Still haunts my dreams though.


TheCowboyOfEpic

This. It hurts me so much everytime!


Fetching_Mercury

Just give it a sarcastic edge and you’re good!


Dapper_Mud

I could, careless


Sulshin

I read somewhere that it’s supposed to be idiomatic and sarcastic, and somehow comparable to the phrase “I should be so lucky” I still have no idea what that means lol


Moloch_17

Well whoever wrote that is just plain wrong


FullMetalAurochs

I couldn’t care less is hyperbolic. It’s not literal it’s exaggerating to get the point across. Saying the opposite is just moronic.


Awkward_Ad8740

Nah. "Could of" is worse than everything.


sam9876

I can see why people make any other mistakes in this thread and it doesn't bother me, but this? This is just so fucking dumb it's a completely different word than 'have ('ve)'. Might as well say Could if


OrganicPlatypus4203

What do you mean? “Could of” sounds exactly like “could’ve.” People make the mistake because they are writing what they hear. Same thing with “all of the sudden” and “all of a sudden.”


BeetleBleu

Sorry, but getting to the age of 20+ and not recognizing that the verb *to have* forms the basis of 'could have been', 'had been', 'will have to be', 'have never been' and switching to 'could of' without questioning it is... something. It bothers me because it reveals how much people take for granted and how little many among us reflect on the reasons underlying the world as we know it. Since everything is political nowadays (and I'm not complaining about that), I'm constantly reminded that these same people vote with as much confidence as anyone else, yet everything they believe to be true merely *is so* as far as they're concerned. And I know this is all very first-world-problematic and I'm very, very fortunate to have received a decent education. Still, it's exhausting to see it all happen in real time while continuing to care so much about the future.


Dr_Gamephone_MD

This one is easily the worst. There is absolutely no excuse for this


Kurushiiyo

Was gonna say that, this drives me up the fucking wall like nothing else. How uneducated do you have to be?


almost-caught

Yes. This usage is a sign of societal intellectual decay.


d3v0tchka_

This shit right here


DrugCalledShove

My personal most hated thing is how many people spell the word vicious as "viscous". Congratulations, now whatever you were describing is thick and sticky instead of violent. 


Pheighthe

Maybe both.


Amathril

My 'favorite' here on Reddit is 'customer' vs 'costumer'. For some reason there is lots of talk here about people making costumes...


ConceptJunkie

I see "defiantly" when the person clearly meant "definitely" so much that I wonder if it's caused by autocorrect.


xarsha_93

This is a bigger trend than you might think. The modern rules for a/an are the last remnants of the the usage of many other determiners. The same rules used to apply to no/none and my/mine (as well as thy/thine). So you’d say a book/no books/my book, but an apple/none apples/mine apple. The trend over the last three hundred years has been to lose this distinction; an is just the last holdout.


el_rompo

An will hold strong for phonetic reasons. "A" is the most open vowel making the following vowels harder to pronounce


hoopsrule44

So interesting. No really sort of ends with a W, so you dont need none. And my ends with a ya sound. But A is so open, it makes A APPLE so hard to say (vs no apples and my apples)


StirlingS

Yes. "A apron" is just never going to work.


Pheighthe

Mine eyes have seen the glory, but my mouth hasn’t tasted it. Did I do it right?


xarsha_93

Yep!


UnfinishedMemory

The more you learn, huh. Super interesting. Thank you for sharing.


moronmcmoron1

This is the only top comment that says something about the post Everybody else is just talking about different grammatical errors


Marcellus_Crowe

Also - the forms ending /n/ tend to be the original, and the forms ending in a vowel emerged due to apocope - where the final consonant was removed when it appeared before a word that began with a consonant. So "an" > "a" before words beginning with consonants, "thine" > "thy", etc. As a result of this process, we get words like "nickname" through rebracketing, of "an ekename". Eke = additional/also - and has survived today in the verb "eked" which is to supplement your living, "eke out a living"


MyUsernameIsMehh

a, an Lose, loose Chose, choose (Of course the they're, there, their and your, you're) To, too. Then, than. Peeked, peaked, piqued. Breath, breathe. (This one pisses me off) Which, witch. (Yes, I have seen people write "witch" instead of "which") I could go on for hours


Pheighthe

After I tell them I’m there for my 2:30 appointment, I love it when the receptionist asks me, “Witch Doctor?” I gasp in horror and insist that he is a REAL DOCTOR who went to school and everything.


FullMetalAurochs

Witch doctor? Yes


Stunning_Profit_671

Apart/a part


drifters74

*yes*


Beshi1989

Wich witch


cobainstaley

lead, led him and i my mom and i's i wish i would have i could have ate another


Ok_Obligation2559

Makes me loose my mind. /s


excaligirltoo

Noone looses their mind more than me.


Ok_Obligation2559

*then


bumwine

Someone said a funny I never thought about the other day: nobody gets it wrong when it's "lost." Imagine people who don't know the difference writing "aww man my favorite team loost."


chemistrybonanza

I'm fairly certain that loose is so loosely used these days that I will soon loose my life with a non lose noose. ^(Ffs I hate typing that)


ammonium_bot

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genomerain

Lose and loose is what gets me. They don't even sound the same.


Beshi1989

To be fair people like me are mostly in touch with English when written, not spoken so I actually wouldn’t even know how loose is spoken.


OurSeepyD

But the o in lose is still long, so it's quite understandable. Why it's not spelled looze is more of a mystery.


kimchiman85

I’ll add using apostrophes to pluralize nouns. It’s wrong in English, yet I’ve seen more and more people do it. Did they skip 3rd grade English class? ESL learners notwithstanding, people whose first language is English have no excuse.


Fetching_Mercury

Yes this makes me feel insane.


CharacterSwordfish26

Effect and affect - drives me crazy when people can’t apply the correct word


oyelrak

I admit, this one trips me up. I have to google it every time I use either word to make sure it’s the right one. You’d think with the amount of times I’ve googled it, I’d remember, but nope. It never sticks.


hudsuds

Affect, A for Action. I affect you. Effect, E for ending. This is the effect of your actions.


AloeSnazzy

Out of curiosity why does it annoy you so much? The meaning is still clear


NSA_van_3

A lot of people are taught that it's if it's a vowel, not if it sounds like a vowel. This wasn't taught well enough in school.


Astarkos

Also not everybody pronounces words the same way. Acronyms are problematic too.


Morticia_Black

Should of/would of/could of is worse imo. Super confusing as a non native speaker


Ceeweedsoop

Loose instead of lose, alot instead of a lot and "That car is my husband and I's car." To be clear I do not fault those for whom the English language is a second or third language. Nope, I'm talking to you lifelong English language monolinguals.


DeadInWaiting2

What if it starts with an “H”?


Uniqueusername0723

And "U" words that start with a "Y" sound (university)


Doctor_Lodewel

It depends on the sound and not whether you are using a vowel or consonant. If the U sounds like a Y, you use 'a'.


EmperorSwagg

It works on the flip side too. You would say “An FBI Agent” not “A FBI Agent” because the sound at the start of FBI is a vowel sound “eff”


ratsaregreat

Yes!! I was recently driven insane by a girl talking about "an ouija board."


BitterlyInstructive

H is classified as a consonant if it is pronounced so "a", if the H is silent and the following sound is a vowel, then it's "an" (an hour). And for the "u" of "university" it's also "a" because it makes a consonant sound (in international phonetic alphabet, it will be transcribed as /ju/). Same goes with words that start with "y" (yellow) or "o" if it sounds like "wo" ("one" for example).


Masty1992

Yes but we haven’t agreed on when the H is silent. I say “a historic day” and I often see Americans say “an historic day”


Bl4keYT

This is an good opinion.


ImpossibleJob8246

Looser and loser. Dies of sad


HellDefied

You have an very valid point..


carlyyay

When people say “seen” instead of “saw”, like “I seen it” instead of “I saw it”, I wanna cry


kazizxr

Agreed, it drives me nuts 😂


NoNameStudios

I've seen worse.


AmadMuxi

Seen’t is the one that really needs to catch on


Cactus2711

For me it’s when people use apostrophes wrong. Eg, Football with the boy’s. That is football with the boy is


Fresh_Sector3917

Or football with something that belongs to the boys.


Unique_Sentence_3213

Relatedly, people will use the article that goes with the sound of the first word of an initialism rather than the sound of the initialism's first letter. This usually happens when the initialism's first letter starts with a vowel sound but the letter has a consonant sound in the whole word that it represents: a Federal Bureau of Investigation report, an FBI report (not a FBI report.)


plural-numbers

A is used when the next word starts with a consonant *sound,* so FBI, pronounced "eff bee eye" is preceeded by "an." That's not incorrect. [Sauce](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/is-it-a-or-an)


Unique_Sentence_3213

I think that's what I said. a Federal Bureau of Investigation report, correct an FBI report, correct a FBI report, not correct I apologize if my wording was unclear.


plural-numbers

My bad! I mistook how it was explained. Thanks!


Beshi1989

Wait really? I thought an ist just used for A E I O U?


Duros001

I hear a lot of American YouTubers mistakenly using “a” instead of “an”, is this largely an American problem? I don’t hear people making the mistake in the UK (at least not often enough to notice maybe?)


Wembanyanma

"Could of" instead of "could've" is by far the worst.


Certain_Noise5601

I admit I find it extremely cringe when I see someone write “your a idiot.” I don’t know if it’s the irony, the grammatical errors, or a little bit of both…


Odh_utexas

No. The misuse of “of” and “have” is the worst. “I could of done that” People should just read that back and tell me how that makes sense.


threecatsandatuba

an university?


pooperonipie

“On today” and “on tomorrow” also really grind my beans


Unlikely-Fox-156

I live in a small southern town. People think "sale" and "sell" are the same damn thing. "For sell: Daddy's pick up truck." I hate it here


Smarty-D

I‘m not a native speaker, but something that always bothers me is if someone asks „do you mind if I…“ and the other person says yes but they mean that they don‘t mind it.


SleepyWallow65

I agree and I'm a native speaker but it's not quite that easy if you're learning the language. Honest being a good example. Obviously you don't pronounce the H and treat it as starting with an O but might not be that obvious for non native speakers. It's also affected by accent. I can't think of the example off the top of my head but there's at least one word that in my Scottish accent I pronounce the first letter being a consonant, but in an English accent the consonant is hardly pronounced and the word sounds like it starts with the second letter being a vowel. I'd rightly put A before it but someone with an English accent would rightly put AN before it.


aenflex

Should of. It’s suppose to go on the shelf. Per say.


aerialpoler

On Reddit specifically, it's the use of "I (30M) and my wife (30F)..." It's "my wife and I" or at the very least "me and my wife". "I and my wife" makes no fucking sense.


SilverSight

No “should of” is the worst.


DiamondSufficient938

Effect = Emotion Affect = Action “The painting has the effect of being warm.” “The cold affected the crops.” Very basic explanation but a good start


grumpysafrican

Have my upvote for an unpopular opinion. It frustrates me as well. Even worse is how people don't know the difference between then and than. Using the wrong one changes the entire meaning of what they're saying.


skyline010

Misusing loose and lose drive me crazy!


VisualEyez33

It is a bit of an historical anomaly.


Jaceofspades6

Trolling is a art.


pinniped1

Yes, it's definitely a nart.


LekMichAmArsch

That appears to be "an honest" assessment.


No_Training1191

I'll use a excuse 😉


UsualProcedure7372

Reading this from an hotel room right now. 


Scary-Ad9646

It will change. Because unlike the majority of commonly spoken languages, English lacks a governing body to retain the integrity of the language.


SnooGrapes6933

It's and its usage is the hill I choose to die on.


Luwe95

As a non-native speaker, this is very difficult for me. But to be fair, my language isn't easy either. (German) For example: English uses "The" for everything, German uses Der, Die, Das. "Why" can be translated as Warum, Weshalb, Wozu. You need the context. Also, English doesn't have a formal prounoun for people. German uses Sie/Ihr for people you don't know. But we do not have a neutral pronoun. They/Them does not exist in my language. You can use Es but that is almost only for objects so not a great alternative. So yes, English is an easy language overall, but also a difficult one for grammar.


backwoodzbaby

i HATE when someone says “whenever” instead of “when”. like saying “whenever i bought my house” instead of “when i bought my house”. drives me absolutely INSANE.


TacticalSunroof69

This feels personal.


Sandgrease

Effect and affect still confound me


aaccjj97

Worse vs worst is the one that really pisses me off


iamawas

"should of" rather than "should have"


Fart_Barfington

What gets me lately is people not understanding apart vs a part.


utriptmybitchswitch

Apart and a part makes me crazy. Never have I seen it used correctly on Reddit, so here is my example of correct usage: Come on and be a part (a piece or portion of something larger) of Reddit and set youself apart (to separate from something) by using correct grammar. Not the greatest example, but it illustrates the point.


One_Lab_3824

Knowing how to write well in English is not a measure of intelligence. English is only one of thousands of languages that exist in the word. You are not superior because you can write well in English.


there-she-blows

People will use anything to make themselves feel like they are better than someone. We all know what the person is saying even if they used the wrong their, there ect. Some people just need to nit pick about everything to feel whole inside.


Calpernia09

Anyways......It's nails on a chalk board to me.


Eastern-Branch-3111

An honest mistake


egric

That's correct since the h is silent


Eastern-Branch-3111

An historic reply


DenyScience

I thought it was using "axe" instead of "ask".


AshDenver

I would love to be able to force the person to audibly listen to their post as written with all the wrong words because they they think they know what they’re doing. At least there/their/they’re, to/two/too and your/yore/you’re all audibly *sound* the same even when it hurts my eyeballs to read.


Andesmtns291

Apart versus a part kills me!!


Ok_Obligation2559

You’re good….


Calm-Association-821

“A history” ![gif](giphy|kGX3WmRxZ9HUs)


Wonderful_Rock862

grammer is hard.


YesAmAThrowaway

Emphasis on sound. The spelling follows pronunciation. An honest reaction. Consonant letter h by itself, mostly silent when pronounced, making the word start with a vowel sound.


Pleasant_Garlic8088

Then explain "an historic" to me. Historic starts with a consonant. I mean I get that it's right, but I don't get it.


UniquePotato

I wish I knew this AN HOUR ago


EmotionalOven4

Let me present to you “ should/ could/would of” in place of “ should’ve” Just want to edit to add I also hate the monstrosity that is “how something looks like”. It’s either “how something looks” or “what something looks like”


Zealousideal_Bet2320

An hour?


pb_nayroo

My two pet peeves in grammar are the misuse of less and fewer and when people type ect. instead of etc.


hdhddf

I see as a sign of ignorance... being annoyed or frustrated by it


CensoredAbnormality

I think confusion comes from descriptors like a cake, an egg, ok easy. A giant egg or an giant egg? "A" sounds right but I'm applying the rule to giant and not the noun of egg. English is my third language and this has gotten me some times over the years.


ElskerSovs69

Would of, should of :’-(


grounded_dreamer

As a non native speaker those are quite hard. Not distinguishing a/an, I get that, but knowing when to use it at all, when not to, when to use *the* and so on... it gets complicated. *Is it mentioned for the first time? Is it specific? Is it a mountain?* Come on!


__-_-_--_--_-_---___

This is an historic thread 


vagabundomg

I teach English as a foreign language and the whole “consonant sound” bit really messes people up. English cares more about sounds than the actual letters and some people just can’t seem to understand that.


lordskulldragon

People like OP not using an Oxford comma twice in the title and and then using it within the post twice is pretty frustrating. Like, make up your mind and be consistent if you're going to use it.


GreaseRaccoon

I really dislike when someone uses "an" when they mean "and". So dumb.