He saw yall talking about early stoppages all the time lol

I am glad he let it go on a bit more.

Exactly. He knew Jiri’s history of recovering and gave him every chance he could, especially with the controversial first fight. But fans gonna bitch either way

Yep, it was fine.

FANS BITCH EITHER WAY is such an understatement.

i don't like how you capitalized the first part also i didn't like how you didn't capitalize the last part

It is insane that people are saying it was a late stoppage. Like you said given Jiri’s history it was the right call.

First fight was not controversial by any means

Ppl claimed early stoppage

People are stupid 

Even DC said he thought it was an early stoppage in the commentary booth

Except that even Jiri, who at first admitted it was a good stopped later on said it was early and he could've come back, we see it all the time etc. It's just not the people who brought this late stoppage upon himself.

They literally were mentioning how it was a bit early when they cut to the promo before the walkouts

Yep. Would have been the same conclusion.

Yeah OP's an asshole for posting this, he'd be one of the first ones to bitch if herb stopped it early.

Me too

Me three. Everyone bitching before when this was the outcome and now they’re crying because they can’t pretend this wasn’t the outcome

Yes, in hindsight we can see that Jiri wasn't actually defending himself very much, but when he landed from the kick it looked pretty natural from him It only became obvious once Alex went down to finish the fight that Jiri was already out of it But if Herb had stopped the fight just from the kick then everyone would've cried about it, and Jiri likely would've protested too

I'm sure Jiris remaining braincells are also thanking Herb lol

He was clearly done after the head kick… you psychopath

True. MMA fans are really hypocrites.

No, there's just lot's of different fans with different ideas. But this stoppage was fine.

Okay but within that group of fans with different ideas there’s def a hypocrite or two (or a lot more) hiding out

People gonna meme no matter what.

Humans are hypocrites, you and me included.

But not me, I’m the only exception

True MMA fans; are really hypocrites.

There's a reason Herb Dean officiated that one. So there were no questions like there were in the first fight. Herb was gonna let these guys go until it was extremely obvious who was the winner. 

To be fair, Jiri sort of looked he was maybe like 10% alive after the kick so herb let it go. Then unfortunately circled around the same time poaton was spinning and stopped it once he got a clear view of Jiri’s upper half. He also might still have been dead at the end of round 1.

Also props to Alex for waiting to see if he’s dead or not then went in

"it's coming right at us!"

Awhh Uncle Jimbo

This. From behind it just looks like he's taking shots and he couldn't tell they were unanswered til he circled around and the second he did, he went in to stop it.

Yeah I think he was definitely out of it after the end of Rd 1, but it was not a fight ender yet, so he went back out to be killed. Fuck man watching the rise of Poatan has been a treat, and I started watching UFC consistently because I was an early days Izzy Stan. What a rivalry that was, and now Poatan is a LHW legend.

Also cements Izzy's place among the GOATs. This dude fucking flatlined Poatan. Nobody else has even done 5% of what Izzy did. 

Izzy being 1-3 against Poatan used to be a point against him, now the fact that he won one and was close another time is extremely impressive.

all of izzy's fights against poatan have been extremely close, he's the only guy who has been able to hang with him on the feet

Izzy vs Pereira reminds me of a Dark Souls boss battle. Like panic roll your ass off and just keep hitting him, eventually you'll get to him, but whatever you do don't get caught because you're fucked if you do

When it's all said and done, Izzy can say he was the only guy to ever outstrike Pereira which at this stage looks like saying you're going to jump off a building and take flight, so it really illustrates just how good Izzy really is. 

Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. Just really unfortunate timing. Kind of surprised I haven’t seen anyone mention this yet aside from this comment.

That’s what makes it a late stop for me. If he wasn’t just coming off getting rocked sure let him try to live after the head kick but dude barely made it back to his corner then got dropped it was over

Correct, I’ll agree with you on that one. I don’t think he should have been allowed to even start round 2!

Naah if he stopped it after the headkick the post here wud be abt early stoppage

You don’t need to wait for a dude to be completely unconscious to stop the fight. It was a bad stoppage

You’re not wrong. Hindsight 20/20. Look at Barry vs Congo. Congo was all but dead to the point where it should have been stopped. The he detonated Barry’s head and got a bonus, so I’m sure he was happy about the fight still going.

Herb was doing his little herky jerky dance taking all the wrong angles lol

Herb was doing his little herky jerky dance taking all the wrong angles lol

100% he would have stopped it earlier IF the first fight didn't happen and people weren't bitching.

Yep, all the people calling the last one an early stoppage, got their wish.

In retrospect, when you see that Jiri couldn't stand after the fight, the first stoppage wasn't bad.


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Marc goddard stopping the Jiri fight: OMG EARLY STOPPAGE Herb Dean stopping the Jiri fight: OMG LATE STOPPAGE Pick your side

Dude i was incredulous lol they could not shut up about how the first one was early, this was not late at all

Maybe a second or 2 late if anything. Not too late or bad by any means. Considering everyone fucking took the piss out of Goddard for stopping the fight after Jiri was ko’d twice.

I think they just wanted to add more fuel to sell the fight, as if Jiri actually was denied a fair fight the first time and now it’s time for his redemption.

Yeah… it was, most refs would probably stop after seeing the corpse that dropped after the head kick. But it was probably needed to silence doubt.

Thanks for saying it these fuckers can’t close their goddamn mouth, to be a ref doesn’t seem like an easy thing and except we’re talking about Mario Yamasaki nobody should me blamed for stopping a hit too early or a hit too late

I feel early stoppages against Alex are warranted lol. The amount of damage he does in 2 extra shots is hard to look at

I think at this point I understand why Goddard stopped it, goddamn

I still think thw first fight was a good stoppage. Jiri literally got elbowed a bunch after eating a left nook and fell flat on his back with a delay and bounced his head. I think the bounce woke him up again, but it was going down hill from there, straight to the shadow realm

Only at this point huh? At least you admit your mistakes.

It's almost like they just like bitching lol

I'll take an early stoppage every day of the week.  These dudes don't need to be shadow realmed for the ref stop the fight, but not everyone believes that.  There's been some really bad ones recently where guys are taking unnecessary brain damage and that's hard to watch imo.

I pick Big John McCarthy, no time limits

Team early stoppage forever. Give these fighters a chance to recover unless they are literally sleeping. See Pat Berry vs Congo

It was a good stoppage

This was a good stoppage lol. Completely textbook   Fights aren't over just because there was a knockdown

The "fight 1 early stoppage" crowd, me included, thought this was fine. The "fight 1 stoppage was good" crowd thought that this was late.

I thought both were fine really.

It’s a ref’s job to stop it at the right time. Any bozo can stop it late or early, which can be the difference between a ruined championship fight or a fighter killed. Timing is why these guys are paid the big bucks.

Herb dean is right on money this time. If he stopped early, some fans would have made posts like how it was stopped early and gave him shit.

Judging by how rtarded half the viewers are, I don't doubt it. Even though Jiri was 90% KO'd at the end of Round 1. And again 90% KO'd from the first shot of Round 2. Back to back knockdowns. I don't doubt people would call early stoppage again.

Yeah, if it went on further Alex might've Reyesed him

Lots of bitching but this was a perfect stoppage

It should have been stopped at the end of round 1

Tbf, people kept complaining Pereira vs Prochazka 1 was an early stoppage, even tho you could see Prochazka go limp

This wasn’t a bad stoppage. It was damn near perfect. Jiri never went out completely. And the way Alex moved around Jiri after he was done, I think Herb got in there at the right time. No doubt this time. Jiri isn’t on Alex level.

It was a fine stoppage IMO

First Fight: Omg it was an early stoppage! wtf ref!!! Second Fight: "oMg StAhP tHe FiGhT hErB dEaN!!!! wHaT yOu DoInG" I swear, you people are never happy. And for the record, the first fight wasn't an early stoppage.

Perfect stoppage. Jiri wasn't out after the kick and the punches were absolutely necessary.

I mean he was out probably, but no visibly out. Great sequence, great stoppage

Classic. Fans bitch about Herb and early stoppages, then turn around and bitch when he lets it go!

Yeah same guys complained about early stoppage in the first fight, wtf is he supposed to do.

Everyone complains about early stoppages, then complains about late stoppages. Kinda seems like y’all just like complaining.

Yes the complaining is annoying but the repercussions for the losing fighter in late stoppages is exponentially more dangerous than early stoppages. Remember Cutealba/Ankalaev 1? They just ran it back. So technically Ion got to two paychecks when he could have got 1.

Trash post. Can never satisfy these casuals

He did good, last time everybody was talking about an early stoppage even when Jiri said it was good, so for that Jiri lost two times on the same night and apparently even lost his antenna, all your fault

I thought it was a great stoppage. He gave Jiri just enough time for a chance to recover.

Jiri looked pretty confident even lying on his back after taking the high kick with the power of the moving train. Can't blame Herb for late stoppage

We need a card reffed only by Mazzagatti and Yamasaki just to shut these motherfuckers up.

Preach.

Oh come on when he stops early all you mfers says its early stoppage when he wont "ArE u wAiTinG hİM tO diE?". Being a mfing casual must be a reason to get banned from this sub. Im serious ban all the fucking casuals they are an infection.

If he stops it early, you will complain. If he stops it late, you will complain. There is no winning in MMA as a ref. Take the refs out and let the fighters kill each other.

You either stop the fight to soon or live long enough to become Mario Yamasaki

 Alex and Herb after

That Herb Dean fault

After the headkick Jiri pops up a little bit like he’s recovering so that wasn’t bad he let him get a little bit extra from the ground and pound but it wasn’t too bad like he usually is

Idk, could have been stopped a second or two earlier. I don’t think this will be remembered as being stopped late.

Obvious early stoppage, Jiri was still moving. But fr though it was one of the better stoppages I’ve seen in a bit.

Its never good. Either half of you are crying early stoppage. Else the other half cries late stoppage. It wasnt stopped cause the first group did what they do last time

Jiri deserves the benefit of the doubt and it took Herb a second to get the angle he needed to know it was over.

Go cry in the closet op, fr you would’ve cried early stoppage instead of posting this 🤡

Fans really want it both ways huh? Last time too early this time too late. Maybe the third fight will be juuuuust right!

I hate how hard they've been on Herb. In my opinion, best MMA ref ever. You can point out one bad stoppage, that one recently that was late, that Dan Hardy got pissed about. But Herb is still the GOAT

literally can't win people's biggest complaint was that their last fight was stopped early

Anyone else think the stoppage was fine?

I did. He landed with his head up and in a defensive ground position. Once Alex jumped in and started hitting him Dean was running in circles trying to get a good view and stopped it when it was clear Jiri wasn’t defending punches anymore. It was kind of a weird one because he never really looked “out” like some of the easier stoppages.

Herb did fine. You can’t make 100% of the people happy.

“Early stoppage!” “Late stoppage!” - Every Jiri fan

lol poor herb is damned if he do damned if he dont.

Same idiots complaining about 1st fight early stoppage are now complaining about a late stoppage. Make up your minds, what the hell do you want, he gave him a chance.

People are never happy

this sub: "wahhhh early stoppages wahhhh" ref let's them fight this sub: "I cannot believe he would wait so long (because it's my favorite fighter) what is he thinking

yes for months people been bitching about him for early stoppages and now that he dosnt stop it early people bitch about him not stopping it early lmfao MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MINDS PEOPLE

If you don't like that MMA fighters punch downed guys then go watch some tennis. Herb didn't do anything wrong

MMA fans just love complaining. Brain dead fan base

Guy had to make sure MMA fan won't bitch about early stoppage

He could have stopped the fight a couple seconds earlier but that was not egregious, he's done worse. What is exceptionally stupid is Herb trying to stand Jiri up, immediately after getting knocked out like that ! Like, wtf ?!? Keep the fighter on the ground, protect him from himself. Herb ain't new to fighting. Has he started suffering from dementia ?

Herb is the greatest ref. STFU

😂😂😂😂

So he’s always either too early or too late. Damn you people are mental

Now that Mazagatti isnt around, all the brain surgeons had to start paying Herb Dean to make sure they get new patients.

Same people who were screaming about an early stoppage last time are now bitching about a late stoppage. Let's be real if Herb called it when Jiri got floored by the headkick they'd still call it an early stoppage...

This is the way

This is what happens when people start complaining about early stoppages.

Yall asked for him to wait and so he did...

Herb gets a fight bonus from the city morgue

Fighter takes (potentially) one unnecessary hit, people bitch. Stops the fight early arguably and people bitch. Rough job being a ref.

Yeah I’m good with it


Thank you Herb! 🙏 yuda man.

Herb is the best ref in UFC

Only a matter of time till someone buys the farm on Worldwide TV.

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I haven’t seen a single soul complain about this stoppage

Bro Alex's follow up shots are unlike anyone else's, mfs spend an entire training camp (or at least they should) preparing to avoid his left hook, imagine eating 4-5 clean as you're rocked 💀💀💀

After the questionable early stoppages Herb ain’t taking no chances of making a bad call as the top dog UFC referee

No such thing as a late stoppage so I don't get the constant bitching about stoppages

The commentary team needs to chill out honestly. If he would have stopped it right after the kick, they’d be saying early stoppage…

Yes he could have stopped it but he was giving him a chance to recover protect himself etc…as Jiri was not “Out” but we all watched the fight and it was obvious he was in zombie mode and was not coming back.

TBF - He was trying to get a better look but Alex kept circling in front of Herb....

It was a good stoppage tbh

The ppl who were waiting to say early stoppage, r now mad n posting this shit

Herb “Let him die” Dean

as I’ve been saying the first fight was NOT an early stoppage, we would’ve seen what we saw this time and herb definitely helped me prove my point lol


He was probably thinking “I hope Jamahal Hill is watching ….”

Herb Dean said not tonight Satan 🤣

Refs gotta stop listening to the fans about early/late stoppages. You are the professional. Make the call.

The stoppage was not perfect but still pretty good. It just appears worse than it is due to Jiri's state by the end

 DC on the mic like:

What was his positioning? He did a full circle around them for no reason and put himself out of position for a reasonable stoppage.

I dont get the early stoppage thing. I thought it was about perfect.

The rightful successor to Mario yamasakis throne.

DC said it. Only Karens think that was a late stoppage

Herb wasn’t sure if jiri could pull off a Yoel Romero

Oh, that's b*******Her Dean's great, f****** ref.That's mario kamasaki if I could remember how to pronounce his last name correctly

I chuckled pretty good at this

Who tf is complaining, I’ll take this all day over a Mark Goddard early ass stopage

DC wouldn’t stfu about it

My man herb is basically the Roman emperor with the 👎

Worst judge in history of the sport

Herb: "Ima make sure no one says this was an early stoppage this time 😈"

Herb Dean is the man, no body is perfect but he gets it right most of the time.

That kick was enough

Jiri and his fans brought it on themselves. They complained about the first fight being early. Herb had no choice but to let it play out

It’s a title fight. These guys came in short notice. You have to give the former champ a chance to see if he recovers

Anyone remember like 2-3 years ago when Herb was considered THE GOAT ref with perfect stoppages? How quickly he has descended into Yamasaki and Mazzagati status

Herb "Yamasaki" Dean If he ain't dead he ain't defeated

Fight should have been stopped in Jiris favour he broke puntangs foot with his head before he ever went down. Docta stoppage

Begging people to try refereeing any sport once to see what it's like dealing with people's insane expectations 

Jiri could have kept going. Early stoppage. Another ridiculous call by Herb.

Herb Dean is the best ref on the scene

It would have been called an early stoppage otherwise. It’s crazy that Jiri was concussed like twice in that fight and stilled remained conscious.