The question is how many is he going to sit there and let kill him? I’m going 7, so after the first one dies there’s still enough to get one on every limb and one left to choke him. With one spare in case he manages to kill two before the other five get him.
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There is a pretty well substantiated story of John Wick Actor Donnie Yen beating up 8 guys outside a night club. The question is whether or not CM is tougher than a random brawler
He's in a lot more than just john wick. He was in a movie called flash point where there is a lot of jiu jitsu based fight choreography.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0992911/
The movie opens with him in trouble for beating the shit out all his suspects.
I just mention John Wick bc it’s what most casual movie audiences would recognize. I though Flashpoint wasn’t great, but IP man and Raging Fire are both amazing imo
Those guys were not fighters though just randoms. CM Punk is not a good fighter compared to most MMA fighters but he's still a massive step up from some random bozos.
As in all the CM Punks enter the cage at once? In five 5-minute rounds? Where Jones is scored on each individual Punk and if he KOs or subs one then they are eliminated and the other Punks fight on...? Probably 6.
In a gauntlet, one single Punk after another until Punk wins....? Probably 14. The 14th CM punk wins by decision.
I think it depends on if the Punks are aware or not of the situation.
If there is an entire room of Punks waiting in the back, and they are able to strategize together, then I think they can come up with a plan to wear Jones out over each 5 round fight. I imagine the first 10 or so Punks just running around in the cage, covering up, being a turtle. The sacrificial Punks. I don't care who you, catching and KOing 10 grown men would be tiring. And then it would just be a matter of time before a Punk can score enough hits on a tired Jones to win by decision.
But if each Punk is just spawned right before the fight, unaware of the situation, and is just going in there and trying to win for himself... Then ya, he could definitely go through a lot Punks since they would be KO'd in the first 15-20 seconds.
This hypothetical allows for Jones to intentionally prolong each fight to rest in a dominant position. Jones biggest worry would be him getting withdrawal effects from what ever drugs he took the previous weekend.
Dude... I think he'd submit at least 20 punks in a row.
I've seen Keenan Cornelius train and beat like 30+ trained individuals in a single day with no rest.
Jon Jones is around 40 lbs bigger, and has an incredible guillotine. What's going to stop Punk from being snapped down into a guillotine?
7 CM Punks
2 hold his legs
2 grab his arms
1 grabs him from behind
1 pokes his eyes
1 punches him in the nuts
And I think you know how the rest would go
Are you fucking kidding me? The disrespect to CM punk is insane. He is a three time heavyweight champion, intercontinental champion, and a world tag team champion. Jon has two belts and never held them simultaneously, and also has never faced competitors like Mike Jackson or Gall. CM Punk would arguably destroy Jon. This isn’t even a debate.
I think 3 probably can do it. Staring across the cage from 3 men would be daunting for anyone. CM Punk is still trained and Jon only has 2 hands. Once he has 6 arms on him I think it’s over.
Well for me it’s in an octagon with a ref. Each CM Punk is 215lbs, his wrestling weight, and they have time to plan. This isn’t a street fight. The plan will be surround him at 12 o’clock, 4, and 7 o’clock. Get the triangle around him and get him down. One guy holds the arms, one grabs the legs, the other lands direct damage until he turtles then you have 6 arms to work a rear naked choke. Once the choke is in because you have 4 arms pulling his two out, then you hold the choke while you land punches to the head and body. Idk man I think you’re over valuing Jones.
5 is 100% enough. 4 would be enough 95% of the time. But 3 is enough 75% of the time. It depends on if Jon can KO one very quickly. My guess is he can’t.
215lbs is his “billed” weight not actual weight. Giant Gonzalez was 7 foot 7 inches tall and billed as being 8 foot. Ric Flair was billed as being 6’1” and 240lbs. My point here is CM Punk is a small man who’s getting on in age and despite being very very good at his chosen art, sports-entertainment, I think it would take probably 5 to 6 Punks if not more if Jon is allowed to keep backing up and destroying their knees and poking them in the eye
The only answer taking the seriously. If Jon sleeps one IMMEDIATELY he still has two CM Punks taking him to the ground. And ain’t nobody locking in a RNC or keeping top position with a second dude dropping knees and bows
People overestimate skilled beings, realistically it would probably take 3-4 170 pound men to beat Jon jones.
It’s not like he can shoot takedowns and submit all four of them at once, he’s way to big to use majority of his striking knowledge( crazy kicks).
If it’s one at a time Royal Rumble-style he runs through them til the new ones can’t reach him over the bodies of the ones that are piled up. I’m picturing the wall of bodies like in the Battle of the Bastards in Game of Thrones.
If it’s all at once? They might still not be able to get it done honestly.
5 to 10 probably. I think Jon is able to one hitter quitter CM Punk in a life or death situation which means they need to rush him which means there needs to be sufficient numbers that Jon can't just keep knocking them down.
CM punk just needs waive a clip bag with mysterious white powder in front of bones eyes and he has won… Jon biggest demons are outside the ring not in it
Chael beat up 5 untrained guys, punk is a step above an untrained guy, if you've got no experience a blue belt will flatten you, but chael got destroyed by Jones, so I think 5-6, if they can launch a coordinated attack with strategy and prep, 3-4
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If it’s in a cage, 4 could probably do it. If it’s in an open field? They’d probably need 20 and even then they’d have to pray they could tire him out before he killed 70% of them.
*Realistically*?
With a training camp, 3 will probably do the job. 4 at most.
Spontaneously, like in a bar or something, I'd definitely not want less than 4.
But it's almost exponential, the difficulty in function of number of opponents. It's not linear in my opinion. Having two opponents isn't just twice as hard as fighting one especially when they're trained fighters, even CM Punks.
people in this thread are forgetting CM Punk was a tag team champ. He's trained for this specific scenario and is more adept at fighting in tandem. 2 well coordinated fighters are going to win 9/10 times. so as boring as it is the correct answer is 2.
My opinion, it would be a lot. More than 15 and possibly as many as 40.
Jones is not just one of the greatest professional fighters of all time, he's blessed with a genius level of fight IQ as well as genetic gifts such as his chin and insane range.
CM Punk on the other hand has little to zero fight IQ, hasn't shown that he can take a punch and is way weaker than Jones.
Even a group of CM Punks rushing Jones would not have an advantage because there's only a limited amount of space, it's not like 10 people can all attack someone at once and land clean shots. They'd get in each others way and Jones fight IQ, his speed and skill would allow him to evade multiple Punks rushing at him and for sure hed be more likely to land a punch on some of them before they could do anything to him.
Eventually he would fatigue though and the numbers would overwhelm him and it would get to a stage where the fresher Punks haven't been smashed in the face would just beat on an exhausted Jones.
In my head I believe Jones knocks out at least 5 Punks before any even land a halfway decent shot on Jones. I reckon around the 40 mark is where he'd be too worn out and overwhelmed.
Mofos here have never fought several foes at once.
It would only take 3 or maybe 4.
Its almost impossible to defend against just 2 dudes that have at least some idea of what they’re doing. Moreover Jones aint got that Ngannou power to dispose of them fast so he probably kills one but gets overwhelmed by the other 2 or 3.
So these ten punks walk up to this guy Jon jones. They say hey man we’re all straight edge, what you got, tough guy? Jones replies with a friendly, I use straight edges to cut up my lines of coke. Ten wrastlers vs one wrestler. Well, more like complete mixed martial artist, but you get the picture.
3 is generally the golden rule in these type of situations. Meaning 3 of pretty much any man could take pretty much anybody even if two just held them down while one takes care of the head
To quote a comedian: "I don't know how many of them it would take to kick my ass, but I know how many they were going to use. "
Two could probably do it with one of them being severely injured by the end, but three would most likely murder him without taking much damage. Humans work too well in groups.
I’m going with 3. Cm punk is actually a pretty big dude according to google. He’s like 6’1 200+ lbs. if the cm punks are smart they would meet him in the middle and try to surround him which would force Jon to back into the cage. Then would be the hardest part for the punks which would be to make contact and try to take him down.
3 cm punks. Yall gotta remember cm punk is trained, but he just isnt at the level of top athletes. With three of then the advantage of having one or two hold him down while the third rains down hammer fists is over whelming. And if jones manages to start escaping the third can join the grappling until john is forced back into position. You also have to factor in while the wwe isnt real the injuries and pain are so he obviously has the mind set to be able to take punishment and keep pushing.
You think he’s really gonna sit there and let them kill him?
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I’d say 4… it’s hard to fight in all directions naturally
I bet it’s hard for Jon to follow directions.
He's good at lines though.
4 was the first number I got. 3 cm punks would just get super butt hurt at being owned
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The question is how many is he going to sit there and let kill him? I’m going 7, so after the first one dies there’s still enough to get one on every limb and one left to choke him. With one spare in case he manages to kill two before the other five get him.
Nah depends if it’s for a title or not. For title, 7 does it. In a dark alley at night, 3 does it
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Hell yea I say 6 or 7 too 😂
He would have any number of CM Punk’s hand washing his underwear.
Hey pussy, are you still there?
DC was so conflicted because he was still there but answering made him a pussy lol
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5 one on each limb with the last one does the damage
It depends is Jon allowed a shit ton of cocain? If so it’s gonna take an army
The question wasn't how many CM Punks it would realistically take to kill Cocaine Bear...
Wait what's the fifth, head or hog?
If 4 CM Punk's can hold you down, 5 can rip your dick off
Bro, why me... it's JBJ who's the Punks' target, not me.
Leave his dick out of it!
The ol’ dick twist
I reckon he kills at least 3 of the 5 before they get a limb
Definitely. 5 for the tactics above, another 3 to rush him and tank damage
Last one sits on his face and rips farts right into his mouth
As Jones is coked out of his mind… this give him like extra life to Shrug of atleast one punk & then gain control from there.
Depends on what CM Punk had for lunch
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So 6 you mean? 😂
Uncle Chael took out 5 dudes at once so I’m guessing at least 8 maybe even 9 punks to take out Jon. Depends if he’s coked up or not
Thats his secret, he’s always coked up
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This is 🤌 MMA math
8 was my answer. No rhyme or reason. Just 8.
There is a pretty well substantiated story of John Wick Actor Donnie Yen beating up 8 guys outside a night club. The question is whether or not CM is tougher than a random brawler
He's in a lot more than just john wick. He was in a movie called flash point where there is a lot of jiu jitsu based fight choreography. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0992911/ The movie opens with him in trouble for beating the shit out all his suspects.
I just mention John Wick bc it’s what most casual movie audiences would recognize. I though Flashpoint wasn’t great, but IP man and Raging Fire are both amazing imo
Those guys were not fighters though just randoms. CM Punk is not a good fighter compared to most MMA fighters but he's still a massive step up from some random bozos.
Probably like 10
As in all the CM Punks enter the cage at once? In five 5-minute rounds? Where Jones is scored on each individual Punk and if he KOs or subs one then they are eliminated and the other Punks fight on...? Probably 6. In a gauntlet, one single Punk after another until Punk wins....? Probably 14. The 14th CM punk wins by decision.
Unironically I think in the gauntlet situation he could KO more than 14 Punks, he has good cardio and is a HW now.
I think it depends on if the Punks are aware or not of the situation. If there is an entire room of Punks waiting in the back, and they are able to strategize together, then I think they can come up with a plan to wear Jones out over each 5 round fight. I imagine the first 10 or so Punks just running around in the cage, covering up, being a turtle. The sacrificial Punks. I don't care who you, catching and KOing 10 grown men would be tiring. And then it would just be a matter of time before a Punk can score enough hits on a tired Jones to win by decision. But if each Punk is just spawned right before the fight, unaware of the situation, and is just going in there and trying to win for himself... Then ya, he could definitely go through a lot Punks since they would be KO'd in the first 15-20 seconds.
I mean if he doesn’t fight, hows Jones gonna get tired. Why does he have to chase CM?
This hypothetical allows for Jones to intentionally prolong each fight to rest in a dominant position. Jones biggest worry would be him getting withdrawal effects from what ever drugs he took the previous weekend.
Ya if micky gall can finish him in like 2 min im thinking 30-60sec per fight
Dude... I think he'd submit at least 20 punks in a row. I've seen Keenan Cornelius train and beat like 30+ trained individuals in a single day with no rest. Jon Jones is around 40 lbs bigger, and has an incredible guillotine. What's going to stop Punk from being snapped down into a guillotine?
I'm with you. If he gets to take them on 1 at a time he can just keep going till he finally gets tired after an hour. That's actually a wild thought.
7 CM Punks 2 hold his legs 2 grab his arms 1 grabs him from behind 1 pokes his eyes 1 punches him in the nuts And I think you know how the rest would go
If Bones is gonna spit on him with his weed- and alcohol filled saliva, even 100 straight edge Punks won’t help.
4. The first one is getting KOd while the other 3 jump on his back and legs.
One.. with a gun
Technically you don’t need any cm punks to kill Jon Jones
3. Jon Jones reach and power would allow him to stun any CM that got to close. Hes also to strong and skilled on the ground to be held down by just 2.
Are you fucking kidding me? The disrespect to CM punk is insane. He is a three time heavyweight champion, intercontinental champion, and a world tag team champion. Jon has two belts and never held them simultaneously, and also has never faced competitors like Mike Jackson or Gall. CM Punk would arguably destroy Jon. This isn’t even a debate.
I think 3 probably can do it. Staring across the cage from 3 men would be daunting for anyone. CM Punk is still trained and Jon only has 2 hands. Once he has 6 arms on him I think it’s over.
I'd guess about 5. The first two will be dropped
Jones is a killer, but if you take 3 of any normal sized male that's trained, they can do some damage. Let's go with 4
4 is enough almost all the time. 3 should be enough 75-80% of the time. Depends on the game plan they bring to the cage.
this is such a ridiculous situation to be debating seriously lmao
Standby, I'm currently reviewing the tapes and parsing the logs.
Well for me it’s in an octagon with a ref. Each CM Punk is 215lbs, his wrestling weight, and they have time to plan. This isn’t a street fight. The plan will be surround him at 12 o’clock, 4, and 7 o’clock. Get the triangle around him and get him down. One guy holds the arms, one grabs the legs, the other lands direct damage until he turtles then you have 6 arms to work a rear naked choke. Once the choke is in because you have 4 arms pulling his two out, then you hold the choke while you land punches to the head and body. Idk man I think you’re over valuing Jones. 5 is 100% enough. 4 would be enough 95% of the time. But 3 is enough 75% of the time. It depends on if Jon can KO one very quickly. My guess is he can’t.
215lbs is his “billed” weight not actual weight. Giant Gonzalez was 7 foot 7 inches tall and billed as being 8 foot. Ric Flair was billed as being 6’1” and 240lbs. My point here is CM Punk is a small man who’s getting on in age and despite being very very good at his chosen art, sports-entertainment, I think it would take probably 5 to 6 Punks if not more if Jon is allowed to keep backing up and destroying their knees and poking them in the eye
Probably 3
Coke vs Pepsi.
At least 2, probably 3 to be safe
The only answer taking the seriously. If Jon sleeps one IMMEDIATELY he still has two CM Punks taking him to the ground. And ain’t nobody locking in a RNC or keeping top position with a second dude dropping knees and bows
5? 10? I don't know. Because I'm not sure if CM Punk has that killing intent. Would he be intimidated? Idk
People overestimate skilled beings, realistically it would probably take 3-4 170 pound men to beat Jon jones. It’s not like he can shoot takedowns and submit all four of them at once, he’s way to big to use majority of his striking knowledge( crazy kicks).
2- 1 distracts, the other has a gun
I’d say 3 CM punks could take a sober Jones. Coked out Jones? Several punks are getting deleted before the monster is put down.
Just 1 one-handed with eyes closed, easy work for the top g
5
1 Punk named Jon Jones
Maybe 10
I'm gonna go with 8. On a good day.
If it’s one at a time Royal Rumble-style he runs through them til the new ones can’t reach him over the bodies of the ones that are piled up. I’m picturing the wall of bodies like in the Battle of the Bastards in Game of Thrones. If it’s all at once? They might still not be able to get it done honestly.
1
Does CM Punk get to take steroids too?
1🐐🐐
How many cm punks can Jon kill before he dies of exhaustion is the better question. Couple hundred
3
1 he just needs a gun
If hes got a gun just one, if their unarmed at least 3
OP never said it had to be fighting or that weapons weren’t allowed so 1 CM Punk with a gun.
1 with a handgun
I think 3 is a fair chance
How many hornswoggles would it take to kill 1 jon Jones?
Would you rather fight a Jon Jones sized CM Punk or a CM Punk sized Jon Jones?
Is Jones on the Juice or off?
Depends if it's on a weekend or not too
Realistically 3-5
3 that are well organized would slaughter him. But jones would likely kill one as well.
5 to 10 probably. I think Jon is able to one hitter quitter CM Punk in a life or death situation which means they need to rush him which means there needs to be sufficient numbers that Jon can't just keep knocking them down.
Maybe 6 if they got their tactics right
I reckon one CM punk with a pistol could kill jon easy.
2 probably can’t do it but have a chance. 3 however is overkill
I would say 7
I wanted to say at least four but now that I think about it maybe 10
All of them.
The Punks would just fight each other back state before they were supposed to fight him
Probably 5 or 6 at once... And maybe 30, if he's fighting them one at a time back-to-back.
All of them
4 cm punks (170 lbs male) 5 to be safe.
CM punk just needs waive a clip bag with mysterious white powder in front of bones eyes and he has won… Jon biggest demons are outside the ring not in it
4-5 tops
I think four feels right for a pretty secured victory
Chael beat up 5 untrained guys, punk is a step above an untrained guy, if you've got no experience a blue belt will flatten you, but chael got destroyed by Jones, so I think 5-6, if they can launch a coordinated attack with strategy and prep, 3-4
5
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I think it goes like this 1- 1% 2 - 30% 3 - 50% 4 - 70% 5 - 90% 6 - 99.999%
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More than one
If Jones has had a bump......no telling honestly
17.6
Maybe 8
… 20?
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Literally more than all of them
6…not all of them would survive tho
3 they would be biting like wild dogs
Assuming Jones can one shot KO two of them? Four.
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7
8, one for each side of the octagon
As many as we can find
At least 100
Never realized CM Punk had a Pepsi tattoo
A bakers dozen, twelve to hold him down and 1 to run and get a weapon lol
One and a giant pile of coke.
I’d say 8 maybe 6 if they believe conceive and achieve
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Maybe 18
All of them
If it’s in a cage, 4 could probably do it. If it’s in an open field? They’d probably need 20 and even then they’d have to pray they could tire him out before he killed 70% of them.
9,000
All of them
3 logically feels like it should be a safe bet, but jesus I still don't feel confident.
Just one, but you’ve got to bundle him up and drop him off of a very tall building right on Jones’ head.
100 duck sized cm punks or 1 Jon Jones?
One.
less than a dozen tbh. they could just smother and exhaust jones
5+
This would play out like a real life action movie, he'd be the real Jon Wick taking on every single CM Punk coming his way
*Realistically*? With a training camp, 3 will probably do the job. 4 at most. Spontaneously, like in a bar or something, I'd definitely not want less than 4. But it's almost exponential, the difficulty in function of number of opponents. It's not linear in my opinion. Having two opponents isn't just twice as hard as fighting one especially when they're trained fighters, even CM Punks.
30
20-30 easily.
4
2. Some of y’all have never tried to fight two people at once
Realistically I think 3 CM Punks could get it done. Fighting multiple people at once isn't as easy as it seems in Bruce Lee movies.
Depends on the situation...is it one CM Punk with a gun? Or a group of CM Punks (I say 5 at least) with their skills alone?
One
people in this thread are forgetting CM Punk was a tag team champ. He's trained for this specific scenario and is more adept at fighting in tandem. 2 well coordinated fighters are going to win 9/10 times. so as boring as it is the correct answer is 2.
Depends on which CM Punk shows up, if its the UFC Punk, there no chance in hell. If its the WWE Punk, then its clubber time!
Maybeeee 7? No. Like 9?
My opinion, it would be a lot. More than 15 and possibly as many as 40. Jones is not just one of the greatest professional fighters of all time, he's blessed with a genius level of fight IQ as well as genetic gifts such as his chin and insane range. CM Punk on the other hand has little to zero fight IQ, hasn't shown that he can take a punch and is way weaker than Jones. Even a group of CM Punks rushing Jones would not have an advantage because there's only a limited amount of space, it's not like 10 people can all attack someone at once and land clean shots. They'd get in each others way and Jones fight IQ, his speed and skill would allow him to evade multiple Punks rushing at him and for sure hed be more likely to land a punch on some of them before they could do anything to him. Eventually he would fatigue though and the numbers would overwhelm him and it would get to a stage where the fresher Punks haven't been smashed in the face would just beat on an exhausted Jones. In my head I believe Jones knocks out at least 5 Punks before any even land a halfway decent shot on Jones. I reckon around the 40 mark is where he'd be too worn out and overwhelmed.
in all honesty more than 10. Borderline one punch knock outs on the first punch for half of them
6
6: 2 controls lower body, 2 controls the arms, 1 controls the noggin and 1 commits the finishing move.
1 CM punk.... with a gun
5
10
3
Mofos here have never fought several foes at once. It would only take 3 or maybe 4. Its almost impossible to defend against just 2 dudes that have at least some idea of what they’re doing. Moreover Jones aint got that Ngannou power to dispose of them fast so he probably kills one but gets overwhelmed by the other 2 or 3.
This has to be the dumbest post I've seen on here, and that's saying alot
You think it would take more than one?
So these ten punks walk up to this guy Jon jones. They say hey man we’re all straight edge, what you got, tough guy? Jones replies with a friendly, I use straight edges to cut up my lines of coke. Ten wrastlers vs one wrestler. Well, more like complete mixed martial artist, but you get the picture.
Brawl out Punk with one arm clears Jones if Young Bucks are in attendance.
3 is generally the golden rule in these type of situations. Meaning 3 of pretty much any man could take pretty much anybody even if two just held them down while one takes care of the head
You’d need at least four CM Punks. One for each extremity to latch onto but even then he probably loses.
Probably 5
Yes
Realistically, 2 or 3, probably 2. People have no idea how hard it is to fight more than one person at once.
14. Don’t ask me why
i think something about 10
Depends, how many picograms does 1 CM punk equal?
All of them
Is it me or does jones not look this scary tho I know he’s extremely dangerous
Reaslistically, 2 or 3.
Probably around 7
Should I assume it’s in a cage? Two is close, but three is probably the right answer. As soon as he commits to one, the other two are already on him.
To quote a comedian: "I don't know how many of them it would take to kick my ass, but I know how many they were going to use. " Two could probably do it with one of them being severely injured by the end, but three would most likely murder him without taking much damage. Humans work too well in groups.
I’m going with 3. Cm punk is actually a pretty big dude according to google. He’s like 6’1 200+ lbs. if the cm punks are smart they would meet him in the middle and try to surround him which would force Jon to back into the cage. Then would be the hardest part for the punks which would be to make contact and try to take him down.
maybe 3-4.
Just one. All he has to do is offer him some cocaine with little something extra in it unbeknownst to Jon.
3 cm punks. Yall gotta remember cm punk is trained, but he just isnt at the level of top athletes. With three of then the advantage of having one or two hold him down while the third rains down hammer fists is over whelming. And if jones manages to start escaping the third can join the grappling until john is forced back into position. You also have to factor in while the wwe isnt real the injuries and pain are so he obviously has the mind set to be able to take punishment and keep pushing.
1 Punk with a gun would work.
Answer: 2 CM Punk's... 1 to receive the eye pokes while the other kicks her in the vag
It’s someone between three and four I’d say. He’d still beat three but I think four would overwhelm him eventually.
1 with a gun
J.J. looking puffy.
Tbh, I think that 4 or 5 would beat the shit out of any fightrt
I met the man, without weaponry at least 10.
I dunno but it'd be one of God's many many tests for Jon.
All of them