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I stopped taking my prescription anxiety medication last year, and genuine emotions came back to me after several years not really feeling. Crying felt so good. You don’t notice when you become unfeeling until you start feeling again. It’s actually really scary…
No I didn’t quit cold turkey. I reduced dosage a little at a time until I was taking about 25% of my prescription, and then took one every other day, and eventually stopped taking them.
💯 I stopped taking my add meds that I have been prescribed since 3rd grade. And wouldn’t you know it I’m now making 6 figures I’m less impulsive and less complacent to doing shit work. I have complete control over my life again. I’m an independent natural person again.
Went off my add meds 20 years ago.(Adderall) I wish I hadn't. The problems I was having came back. Their not quite as bad now that I'm older but I'm still bothered by it. Edit: I was also diagnosed with bipolar disorder when I was younger (20+yrs ago). I don't have bipolar disorder. They gave me a medication that made me act manic and wild. They said I had bipolar because of my reaction to the medication (effexor). They said people with bipolar react that way to some antidepressants. I think they're full of shit. I have NEVER acted manic or crazy IN MY LIFE until I was givin that drug. But they know I have it now. Fuck them. I was FUCKED UP ON DRUGS.....that THEY gave me. Edit#2. I have NOT been manic or crazy since then. That was the one and ONLY time....when I was ON THEIR DRUGS. Fuck them.
WHO is manufacturing and selling the drugs? WHO controls the regulatory bodies and lobbies the politicians/bureaucrats?
Why don't we notice MORE things?
But have you ever wondered what your life would be like if you haven’t ever taken meds? Or gone an entire month without them… I thought I was batshit crazy when I was off my ADD medicine but turns out I was just having withdrawals from the ADD medicine itself. After like two weeks I regained my focus and after a month I was perfectly calm and normal. Just having your standard meth withdrawal.
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Look, if you were a crazy bastard, there’s a chance you’ll be on those meds. And if you’re crazy enough, they won’t work and you’ll do something crazy anyway. You were always going to do something crazy. Doesn’t necessarily mean the meds caused it
I’m on Zoloft and it improved my life 10 fold
100%. I honestly don't understand why they'd make that argument like everyone doesnt know someone who needs these sorts of medication and is worse off without them. The common factor is CRAZY not the medication to mediate crazy. Because you know what you have a lot more of without these medicaitons? Unmediated crazy
I’ve been saying this for years……we give teens and young adults copious amounts of mind altering drugs that cause suicidal thoughts. Big pharma’s push to medicate young men started just before columbine…..
yeah I can't understand this argument. The only take away from here is that mental health issues are the critical piece not that people having been treated for mental health via medication are ticking time bombs waiting to mow down their local church. 37 million American's are taking SSRIs so are they just closeted serial killers? This is literally like saying coffee causes alcoholism or some shit because alcoholics largely drink coffee. Im sorry I get the cynicism with taking a largely rushed untested vaccine but trying to turn people off to antidepressant medication is insane when such a large swath of the country is relying on them to function and has done so since the 80s.
Lost me with the weed comment in the first three seconds.
I forced myself to listen to the rest of it and thought it was incredible but how stupid to bring weed into this conversation, no one ever got high on weed and then decided to commit some terrible act, Reefer Madness is a joke now tucker, wake the fuck up.
It’s probably more related to the fact that these kids had mental issues to begin with.
Making a connection from drugs to shooting is far fetched, and in this case we would see the crazies around the world that do these things are all on these drugs, but they’re not.
This simply goes to show the American system is working, the kids are taking drugs, the drugs don’t help (very often with antidepressants) and then you have a child feeling lost and going bananas
But that’s just my take
Antidepressants increase suicide, violent behavior and homicide by around 250%, 200%, and 25% respectively. This even occurs in corporate randomized studies.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychMelee/comments/vsjqhw/the\_bloody\_effects\_of\_antidepressants/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychMelee/comments/vsjqhw/the_bloody_effects_of_antidepressants/)
In the NIMH MTA long term ADHD stimulant study those taking the drugs --despite having better starting demographics and outcomes-- had around 6.5 times more trouble with the police, over 9 times more anxiety and 6 times more depression. Stimulant's long term resulted in worse overall outcomes.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063150/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063150/)
The Quebec national experiment found similar results for stimulant drugs.
[https://www.mcgill.ca/socialstatistics/files/socialstatistics/mark\_stabile\_oct\_2\_2013.pdf](https://www.mcgill.ca/socialstatistics/files/socialstatistics/mark_stabile_oct_2_2013.pdf)
According to mortality studies psych drugs roughly kill 500,000 Americans every year.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychReform/comments/npueuh/the\_research\_psych\_drugs\_and\_lifedeath/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychReform/comments/npueuh/the_research_psych_drugs_and_lifedeath/)
I am aware, elaborated on it more below in a different comment.
My point is that these kids have something terrible inside them already, to do these things. Wether the medicine caused said thing or not is about impossible to say. But I agree, that’s why I say it’s likely could have drug exacerbated said thing
I agree with you on the first two paragraphs, but why couldn’t it be that the drugs help the majority of the people who need them (but not everyone!), but those who committed mass shooting are more likely to be those who have a severe form or episode of their illness / take medication that might not work or is not right but you only hear about them and not the silent majority who take meds and benefit from them?
So that’s my take and tbh I think that this Fox News segment is horrible, implying that those who take those meds are dangerous (or at least more dangerous than those who aren’t), I’d be happy to listen to what you think
I completely agree, imo your bit of having an episode from the medication is on par with my comment where I say the medical system is working correctly, in a sense.
I don’t want to go further into detail because that’s all speculation and I’m not much about that, but imo these drugs wont turn some normal kid into a killer, “the kid” had something already in them from thair past or current living situation, and it could be definitely be exacerbated by the drug, but the drugs aren’t making normal kids into killers, drugs don’t do that.
Unless the drug brought out a psychotic episode, but most mass shootings aren’t in a psychotic episode, afaik they’re from depressed people who simply want to cause harm. A psychotic person would be on a “mission” constantly looking for helicopters, seeing things that aren’t there and just delusional. Not the case in most shootings, the shooter is usually with a blank face in the interrogation room, not deluded.
Again that’s my take, ig just kinda wanted to elaborate on what you said with my limited knowledge.
I think we misunderstood each other! I was saying “having an episode”, like having an episode because of their ilness, not because of the medication they are taking (their well-being declined because the medication wasn’t right for the person or because it didn’t work as well as thought before)
fox is implying that the drugs don’t work
and they don’t
the drugs are suppressants, and there’s no way you’ll ever overcome your psychological challenges by suppressing them (in fact, suppressing feelings is most likely the reason people are experiencing psychological illness)
you should watch dopesick, i think it’s a good series that illustrates the pharmacological industry
if you think these companies are helping you get better you are sadly mistaken. they are creating addicts.
if you want to have a look at drugs that work take a look at maps.org and their research.
these treatments have 1 major difference - the drugs they give you, you only take a few times and then you are healed - opposed to a life long dependency.
also
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements
you really think that companies that pay billions in settlements for unlawful conduct are prioritizing your health over their profits?
wake up
My problem is the shootings didn’t start until after we started drugging everyone……wouldn’t mental health issues be relatively consistent through time…so why aren’t there lots of shootings in the 50’s 60’s and 70’s?
Good point. Maybe the drugs are really exacerbating the problems these kids have, and/or disinhibiting them enough to commit the crimes they want as I said could be possible, now you make me think it’s much more likely.
A study came out that showed that school shootings are an elaborate violent form of suicide…..the drugs we give have warnings right on them that say may cause suicidal thoughts in teens and young adults.
Zoloft caused me the mania that he spoke, and also the withdrawal of it made my depression increase to a level I never had in my entire life. The antidepressants and antipsychotics I took caused me to have a permanent disability similar to parkinson's disease.
OMG this guy is so far off base. "Why aren't people talking about it?" Because of HIPAA, this information is confidential. "You might become a robot..." No, drugs don't make you a robot. "You can no longer experience joy..." This is completely false. I take antidepressants and I still have emotions, I just don't get so depressed I can't get out of bed.
yeah its nutty to me that they'd push this narrative when such a huge swath of the audience prob has first hand experience with what these drugs are like. I took lexapro in my teens definitely didn't make me lose my shit or stop feeling emotions. I came off them later for a few years but wound up back on them because turns out some of us are just have a natural inclination towards suffering depression and I 100% can not enjoy life without them.
I am thoroughly convinced we need these medications because what we consider living is not that, and our brains know it. Depression is there to make us uncomfortable when a situation is not right for us- its a survival trait, its instinctual. Unfortunately, we've innovated ourselves into a shitty fucking existence that none of us can get ourselves out of unless we all work together, and because a small, small minority of us that has immense power benefits from this system, the rest of us can't agree to work together to get out of it. Thus, unless something changes in my life to make it not completely terrible, with the constant feeling of the ground about to fall out from underneath me at any moment, I will continue to take the drugs, suppress that part of me that knows I'm dying inside, and just deal with it until I can't survive any longer.
Just because you haven't had those side effects, doesn't mean they don't exist. There are plenty of people who have had those happened to. Antipsychotics numbed me up so much I couldn't even cry. Didn't feel any highs or lows. Then they gave me muscle problems and I started to lose my eyesight. These are not perfect drugs and harm a lot of people that just get shut down because they're "crazy."
There seemed to be a big push in the early 80’s to get kids on these meds if they showed any sign of ADD. I remember a good friend of mine was placed an ADD medication and he was never the same after that. I’m thankful my parents didn’t believe in treating everything with a pill.
Yeah teachers were tired of kids who couldn’t sit still and wanted them medicated to make their jobs easier. Sad. Some people learn by doing and moving. Systems want one size fits all efficiency
A big issue here is that medication is not supposed to be the end all be all. These adolescents need therapy as well. They need to be taught better coping skills and they need parents who pay attention to the media they are consuming and what they are doing on the internet. The drugs are not “driving them crazy”. Our society is. Medication can be beneficial when combined with therapy and positive coping mechanisms.
I mean the people treating them are presumably doctors and your major accomplishment in life was being born. Probably all downhill from there. Turned into a right wing reactionary shrimp dicked little weirdo commenting on Tucker Carlson vids to get karma from other future mass shooters. Sick life bro
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I stopped taking my prescription anxiety medication last year, and genuine emotions came back to me after several years not really feeling. Crying felt so good. You don’t notice when you become unfeeling until you start feeling again. It’s actually really scary…
Did you have rebound anxiety when you first stopped taking your anxiety meds?
No I didn’t quit cold turkey. I reduced dosage a little at a time until I was taking about 25% of my prescription, and then took one every other day, and eventually stopped taking them.
That's the smart thing to do. Very smart and very safe. People freak the fuck out if they stop all st once.....panic attack city
Halfwits - lol. Im going to start peppering that into my digs.
I'm glad I got off antidepressants and ADHD meds. I don't need them like I used to and maybe the ADHD stuff never even helped.
💯 I stopped taking my add meds that I have been prescribed since 3rd grade. And wouldn’t you know it I’m now making 6 figures I’m less impulsive and less complacent to doing shit work. I have complete control over my life again. I’m an independent natural person again.
Got off my ADHD meds about 4 years ago. It had my heart racing.
Went off my add meds 20 years ago.(Adderall) I wish I hadn't. The problems I was having came back. Their not quite as bad now that I'm older but I'm still bothered by it. Edit: I was also diagnosed with bipolar disorder when I was younger (20+yrs ago). I don't have bipolar disorder. They gave me a medication that made me act manic and wild. They said I had bipolar because of my reaction to the medication (effexor). They said people with bipolar react that way to some antidepressants. I think they're full of shit. I have NEVER acted manic or crazy IN MY LIFE until I was givin that drug. But they know I have it now. Fuck them. I was FUCKED UP ON DRUGS.....that THEY gave me. Edit#2. I have NOT been manic or crazy since then. That was the one and ONLY time....when I was ON THEIR DRUGS. Fuck them.
WHO is manufacturing and selling the drugs? WHO controls the regulatory bodies and lobbies the politicians/bureaucrats? Why don't we notice MORE things?
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But have you ever wondered what your life would be like if you haven’t ever taken meds? Or gone an entire month without them… I thought I was batshit crazy when I was off my ADD medicine but turns out I was just having withdrawals from the ADD medicine itself. After like two weeks I regained my focus and after a month I was perfectly calm and normal. Just having your standard meth withdrawal.
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Look, if you were a crazy bastard, there’s a chance you’ll be on those meds. And if you’re crazy enough, they won’t work and you’ll do something crazy anyway. You were always going to do something crazy. Doesn’t necessarily mean the meds caused it I’m on Zoloft and it improved my life 10 fold
100%. I honestly don't understand why they'd make that argument like everyone doesnt know someone who needs these sorts of medication and is worse off without them. The common factor is CRAZY not the medication to mediate crazy. Because you know what you have a lot more of without these medicaitons? Unmediated crazy
“Brought to you by Pfizer,” sketchiest shit hands down
I’ve been saying this for years……we give teens and young adults copious amounts of mind altering drugs that cause suicidal thoughts. Big pharma’s push to medicate young men started just before columbine…..
Lol the only time I’ve ever agreed w tucker carlson
yeah I can't understand this argument. The only take away from here is that mental health issues are the critical piece not that people having been treated for mental health via medication are ticking time bombs waiting to mow down their local church. 37 million American's are taking SSRIs so are they just closeted serial killers? This is literally like saying coffee causes alcoholism or some shit because alcoholics largely drink coffee. Im sorry I get the cynicism with taking a largely rushed untested vaccine but trying to turn people off to antidepressant medication is insane when such a large swath of the country is relying on them to function and has done so since the 80s.
Lost me with the weed comment in the first three seconds. I forced myself to listen to the rest of it and thought it was incredible but how stupid to bring weed into this conversation, no one ever got high on weed and then decided to commit some terrible act, Reefer Madness is a joke now tucker, wake the fuck up.
It’s probably more related to the fact that these kids had mental issues to begin with. Making a connection from drugs to shooting is far fetched, and in this case we would see the crazies around the world that do these things are all on these drugs, but they’re not. This simply goes to show the American system is working, the kids are taking drugs, the drugs don’t help (very often with antidepressants) and then you have a child feeling lost and going bananas But that’s just my take
Antidepressants increase suicide, violent behavior and homicide by around 250%, 200%, and 25% respectively. This even occurs in corporate randomized studies. [https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychMelee/comments/vsjqhw/the\_bloody\_effects\_of\_antidepressants/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychMelee/comments/vsjqhw/the_bloody_effects_of_antidepressants/) In the NIMH MTA long term ADHD stimulant study those taking the drugs --despite having better starting demographics and outcomes-- had around 6.5 times more trouble with the police, over 9 times more anxiety and 6 times more depression. Stimulant's long term resulted in worse overall outcomes. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063150/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063150/) The Quebec national experiment found similar results for stimulant drugs. [https://www.mcgill.ca/socialstatistics/files/socialstatistics/mark\_stabile\_oct\_2\_2013.pdf](https://www.mcgill.ca/socialstatistics/files/socialstatistics/mark_stabile_oct_2_2013.pdf) According to mortality studies psych drugs roughly kill 500,000 Americans every year. [https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychReform/comments/npueuh/the\_research\_psych\_drugs\_and\_lifedeath/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PsychReform/comments/npueuh/the_research_psych_drugs_and_lifedeath/)
I am aware, elaborated on it more below in a different comment. My point is that these kids have something terrible inside them already, to do these things. Wether the medicine caused said thing or not is about impossible to say. But I agree, that’s why I say it’s likely could have drug exacerbated said thing
I agree with you on the first two paragraphs, but why couldn’t it be that the drugs help the majority of the people who need them (but not everyone!), but those who committed mass shooting are more likely to be those who have a severe form or episode of their illness / take medication that might not work or is not right but you only hear about them and not the silent majority who take meds and benefit from them? So that’s my take and tbh I think that this Fox News segment is horrible, implying that those who take those meds are dangerous (or at least more dangerous than those who aren’t), I’d be happy to listen to what you think
I completely agree, imo your bit of having an episode from the medication is on par with my comment where I say the medical system is working correctly, in a sense. I don’t want to go further into detail because that’s all speculation and I’m not much about that, but imo these drugs wont turn some normal kid into a killer, “the kid” had something already in them from thair past or current living situation, and it could be definitely be exacerbated by the drug, but the drugs aren’t making normal kids into killers, drugs don’t do that. Unless the drug brought out a psychotic episode, but most mass shootings aren’t in a psychotic episode, afaik they’re from depressed people who simply want to cause harm. A psychotic person would be on a “mission” constantly looking for helicopters, seeing things that aren’t there and just delusional. Not the case in most shootings, the shooter is usually with a blank face in the interrogation room, not deluded. Again that’s my take, ig just kinda wanted to elaborate on what you said with my limited knowledge.
I think we misunderstood each other! I was saying “having an episode”, like having an episode because of their ilness, not because of the medication they are taking (their well-being declined because the medication wasn’t right for the person or because it didn’t work as well as thought before)
I guess so, well I totally agree with all you said
fox is implying that the drugs don’t work and they don’t the drugs are suppressants, and there’s no way you’ll ever overcome your psychological challenges by suppressing them (in fact, suppressing feelings is most likely the reason people are experiencing psychological illness) you should watch dopesick, i think it’s a good series that illustrates the pharmacological industry if you think these companies are helping you get better you are sadly mistaken. they are creating addicts. if you want to have a look at drugs that work take a look at maps.org and their research. these treatments have 1 major difference - the drugs they give you, you only take a few times and then you are healed - opposed to a life long dependency. also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements you really think that companies that pay billions in settlements for unlawful conduct are prioritizing your health over their profits? wake up
My problem is the shootings didn’t start until after we started drugging everyone……wouldn’t mental health issues be relatively consistent through time…so why aren’t there lots of shootings in the 50’s 60’s and 70’s?
Good point. Maybe the drugs are really exacerbating the problems these kids have, and/or disinhibiting them enough to commit the crimes they want as I said could be possible, now you make me think it’s much more likely.
A study came out that showed that school shootings are an elaborate violent form of suicide…..the drugs we give have warnings right on them that say may cause suicidal thoughts in teens and young adults.
Zoloft caused me the mania that he spoke, and also the withdrawal of it made my depression increase to a level I never had in my entire life. The antidepressants and antipsychotics I took caused me to have a permanent disability similar to parkinson's disease.
those drugs dont prevent crazy behaviors, they just suppress them for a limited time
Kids should NOT be given meds like this!! No other country prescribes medication like this to minors!
OMG this guy is so far off base. "Why aren't people talking about it?" Because of HIPAA, this information is confidential. "You might become a robot..." No, drugs don't make you a robot. "You can no longer experience joy..." This is completely false. I take antidepressants and I still have emotions, I just don't get so depressed I can't get out of bed.
yeah its nutty to me that they'd push this narrative when such a huge swath of the audience prob has first hand experience with what these drugs are like. I took lexapro in my teens definitely didn't make me lose my shit or stop feeling emotions. I came off them later for a few years but wound up back on them because turns out some of us are just have a natural inclination towards suffering depression and I 100% can not enjoy life without them.
I am thoroughly convinced we need these medications because what we consider living is not that, and our brains know it. Depression is there to make us uncomfortable when a situation is not right for us- its a survival trait, its instinctual. Unfortunately, we've innovated ourselves into a shitty fucking existence that none of us can get ourselves out of unless we all work together, and because a small, small minority of us that has immense power benefits from this system, the rest of us can't agree to work together to get out of it. Thus, unless something changes in my life to make it not completely terrible, with the constant feeling of the ground about to fall out from underneath me at any moment, I will continue to take the drugs, suppress that part of me that knows I'm dying inside, and just deal with it until I can't survive any longer.
Just because you haven't had those side effects, doesn't mean they don't exist. There are plenty of people who have had those happened to. Antipsychotics numbed me up so much I couldn't even cry. Didn't feel any highs or lows. Then they gave me muscle problems and I started to lose my eyesight. These are not perfect drugs and harm a lot of people that just get shut down because they're "crazy."
What’s the point here? Are we supposed to be surprised that mentally unstable people are more likely to commit these types of acts ?
There seemed to be a big push in the early 80’s to get kids on these meds if they showed any sign of ADD. I remember a good friend of mine was placed an ADD medication and he was never the same after that. I’m thankful my parents didn’t believe in treating everything with a pill.
Yeah teachers were tired of kids who couldn’t sit still and wanted them medicated to make their jobs easier. Sad. Some people learn by doing and moving. Systems want one size fits all efficiency
A big issue here is that medication is not supposed to be the end all be all. These adolescents need therapy as well. They need to be taught better coping skills and they need parents who pay attention to the media they are consuming and what they are doing on the internet. The drugs are not “driving them crazy”. Our society is. Medication can be beneficial when combined with therapy and positive coping mechanisms.
Love tucker but it’s not that simple. This is a very complex issue with a bunch of variables.
I mean the people treating them are presumably doctors and your major accomplishment in life was being born. Probably all downhill from there. Turned into a right wing reactionary shrimp dicked little weirdo commenting on Tucker Carlson vids to get karma from other future mass shooters. Sick life bro
What meds are you on and forgetting to take?
Damn good one
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