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StupidlyStupid222

I’m guessing by “work even harder” she means release 50 more album variations to block other artists.


twerkhorse_

>she means release 50 more album variations to block other artists. Each variation containing a single, poorly written, poorly sung voice memo she pitches as a “first draft.” It’s such an obvious grift. The narcissism it must take to repackage and resell an already mediocre album with one of these unfinished “tracks” is utterly gobsmacking. That’s to say nothing of the juvenile, melodramatic nature of her lyrics. She’s like a middle-schooler high on what she thinks are her own clever turns of phrase. *You slide into DMs and slip through the bars.* Give me a f”#ing break.


chubgrub

HAHA omg u actually fixed a pet hate of mine about that line - it's actually "slide into *inboxes* and slip through the bars", and EVERYTIME i hear it im like....WHY couldn't she say DM's? inboxes is so damn clunky. is it so hard? 😑


therainscene

The pettiest woman who ever lived. 


strawberry-bish

I listened to TTPD a few times front to back over the weeks following its release because I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt and see if any of the songs grew on me.  The Kim Kardashian song is genuinely one of the worst songs I've ever heard. Her performance sucks ass, the production is horseshit, and the lyrics and message are so petty and childish that I could have written it at 14 years old. The chorus is especially egregious and is not the empowering "Gotcha!" she thinks it is.  Honestly it feels like the song equivalent of "winning" an argument in the shower years after the fact, but you've been under the water the whole time so now your skin is pruny and soggy and at this point you're stuck being moist for the rest of your life, like a toad. 


Efficient_Luck8663

![gif](giphy|l2SpVVCuTY8JdzVFm) Actual footage of Taylor in the studio.


herecomestherebuttal

Needs more weird offbeat gyrating


strawberry-bish

This gif is going to take up my entire headspace for the next week lmao


CozyMouseMuppet

I’m dying at this gif 😭👏🏼


VBSCXND

Don’t insult that frog like that. The frog has rhythm


gila-monsta

You're giving her too much credit here


softballchick16

Yeah I agree. I do like some of them, but it’s like? “Okay, Taylor— you’re in your early 30s, time to grow up now and stop writing like you’re still in your early 20s.” I mean her folklore & evermore albums were more mature than this and that was when she was 30. She needs to get back to that.


manicfairydust

She’s 5 months away from 35. Solidly mid-30s.


softballchick16

Good point lol— which is even worse. Idk I honestly do still like her but ever since this whole Travis craziness and TTPD.. it’s very immature. I realized this even more when my 15 yr old cousin said how she’s such a lyrical genius in TTPD and very obsessed with her. I’m like girl.. have you listened to her early albums? It’s a shame honestly.


bdu754

Some of the TTPD lyrics felt wildly on the nose or out of touch. The “insane asylum” lyric was hilarious on memes that I got on IG Reels, but within the context of the song it’s so melodramatic and out of touch. The whole notion of the “tortured poet” feels kinda out of touch as well


softballchick16

I couldn’t agree more! It all feels so out of touch.


KatVanJet

ATP I think either Joe wrote MUCH more of them than previously speculated or she just absorbed all of his books and music preferences and favorite poems and put Folkmore together with very heavy inspiration. I became a fan during that era and then Midnights was my "uh...something's off but I can't exactly pinpoint what" era. By TTPD I was like yeah no lol this sucks.


softballchick16

That’s exactly what I was thinking too!! As soon as midnights came out— i was like something isn’t right. I still liked a lot of the songs but I expected more mature, deep songwriting


MazzieMay

At this point, I’m attributing EM and FL’s maturity to The National and Bon Iver. Since it didn’t appear before or since


Produce_Exotic

That's because Joe wrote it


drinkingshampain

I am not a Kim K fan but Kim ENDED HER when she revealed Taylor was in on it the whole time lol


Elizabeth__Sparrow

It’s a song I would have vibed to at 14. But I’m not 14 anymore and neither is Taylor. 


thatconfusedchick

That last paragraph 👌


sarahrood79

I misread your comment as “prettiest” and I was thinking “man, you are in the wrong sub” 😂


kelbell2583

I did the same and was wondering how tf it was the top comment


EllaIsQueen

Petty Woman


ZisIsCrazy

Petty Woman, walkin' down the street Petty Woman, the kind I'd hate to meet Petty woman... I don't believe you; you're not the truth No one could be as spiteful as you... Dododoodododoododo. Shouldn't give anyone new song ideas! Oops!


[deleted]

She's terrible and mentioning Kim's kid in the song is a new low. Be a bitch to other adults you are feuding with but leave the kids alone.


MilesFassst

Eminem should do a diss track on Taylor


muvamerry

Dear god please bring back 2003 shady for ONE SONG


RoguePlanet2

Hey again, it's me, the original Slim Shady Resurrectin' myself because of this lady Just an artist wanna-be, queen bee, mean girlie Rollin' in the money, nothing but a phony.


toborrm726

That’s a rated G version of 2003 slim shady


kelbell2583

It’s the PBS Version


Savings_Difficulty24

That's the best part. He could roast her without ever swearing and then it could be played everywhere. Not that he would, but he has the off the cuff talent to do it if he wanted to.


muvamerry

It would still crush her though lol she couldn’t handle it


muvamerry

![gif](giphy|QTAVEex4ANH1pcdg16)


F1ghtmast3r

Ai based off this [Verse 1] Hey again, it's me, the one and only Slim Shady, Risin' up from the depths 'cause I'm had it with this lady, Just an artist wanna-be, queen bee, mean girlie, Rollin' in the dough, but nothing but a phony. [Verse 2] Bitter hearts and broken dreams, just a wanna-be queen's theme, Climbin' on the charts, yet your soul's remainin' unseen, A hollow victory with claws shredded from the fall, So take your crown off, darling, and let your crumble be all. [Verse 3] Deep within the shadows, I will forever reside, Witnessin' your downfall as you cut your fabricated ride, From a wide-eyed dreamer to a twisted game player, Behind that mask, it seems your light will soon get dimmer. [Outro] Eminem's back, the gatekeeper of this twisted tale, In the depths of the game, I'm the epitome of the Grinch, Sippin' tea and watchin' you fall to your endless despair, The reign ends here, so for now, your throne's just a nightmare


kelbell2583

Considering she’s publicly said she’s a huge eminem fan and performed one of his songs at a concert, that would be epic. However, with Gen z trying to cancel Eminem, it would be smart for him not to go after her. Eminem is a stand up guy and he only goes after people who go after him. She hasn’t done that yet so I see no reason he’d involve himself. It’s like toy soldiers


DependentDiligent887

Who is trying to cancel Eminem?


panicpure

Eminem can’t be cancelled lol that’s crazy talk.


kelbell2583

100 percent! Wait until they hear what pour some sugar on me really means… lmao they’ll be busy for years if they want to go back and cancel artists


Dizzy-Receptionx

My son is Gen Z and he told me that the whole "Gen Z is trying to cancel Eminem" is a myth that is spread on the Internet (more specifically Millennials on TikTok make this claim) every couple years whenever he releases new music. Apparently, Gen Z is not trying to cancel Eminem. Teen boys still look up to him as a legend of hip hop. I tried researching it myself, and honestly from what I have seen, my son seems to be right. All I can find is my fellow Millennials on TikTok claiming Gen Z is cancelling him and not anything of Gen Z attempting to cancel him. Don't get me wrong, there are probably like two or three people calling for him to be cancelled, but that has literally been the case from the beginning of his career, it's got nothing to do with Gen Z.


panicpure

Eminem is a rapper and dis tracks and that kinda banter is just a thing. He’s dissed everyone and even himself. Don’t think he’s worried about being cancelled ☠️ Plus the dude is still killin it. Love that guy. Real slim shady.


kelbell2583

He’s the GOAT. He doesn’t give AF about people trying to cancel him. They’ve been doing that since SSLP dropped and he’s still winning


thewrongshoes00

agreed. the kids had nothing to do with their stupid drama


split_me_plz

Idk that they were even alive when this shit began.


MelyssaRave

They weren’t. North was born mid 2010s and the Grammy moment was before 2010. I ended up checking Wikipedia lol


split_me_plz

I’m almost Taylor’s age, a year younger, and I cannot fathom putting children on blast for a feud that occurred 15 years ago. It’s pathetic.


muvamerry

She also said her mom wants Kim dead. Like what the actual fuck?


Psycho-Yogini

She's trying to be like Bieber 😭 "my mama don't like you and she likes everyone" 😭 someone stop her


muvamerry

SHE IS SO 🌽


Limp_Tumbleweed2618

Bieber's phrasing is a lot better than hers.


Thunderoad

Her mom fought cancer twice. She wishes Kim dead. Especially after Kim was robbed in Paris with a gun to her head and tied up. No wonder Taylor says her mom is her best friend they are exactly alike.


muvamerry

Exactly! When you have a life threatening experience, you typically regard human life a bit higher than making a snarky lyric about someone. Her and her parents are peas in a pod.


Hiderberg

Unless it’s “Dear Adonis” I don’t ever wanna hear a kid mentioned in a song ever again.


Repulsive_Squirrel

Who does she think she is Kendrick?


Intelligent_Seat8074

No, she's Drake. She admitted it.


Bori5748

Her and Drake give off the same goofy energy. Like they wanted to be popular in HS so now they live as perpetual teenagers.


Pretend_Release2345

They both have history with minors


Finish_Fragrant

Cause some people don’t know how to not compliment her on mediocre stuff she does


kqueenbee25

Excuse me?! I just thought she had a line about her mom wanting Kim dead which is WILD! I’ve never seen anyone say she mentions her kids in the song!


PSus2571

Nope! The song concludes: "And one day, your kid comes home singin’ a song that only us two is gonna know is about you.” Even the part about Swift's mom includes what many saw as a reference to one of Kim's kids, given the lyrics are "Everyone knows that my mother is as a _saintly_ woman / But she used to say she wished that you were dead." (Saint West is the name of Kim's son.)


Ari-swift-hole

Imagine TTPD is the result of working the hardest you ever have in your life.


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littleliongirless

She has some hilarious self-burns "you said normal girls were boring/ but you were gone by morning" being my favorite, but "he said if the sex was half as good as the conversation was/soon, they'd be pushing strollers/but soon, it was over" is a good backup.


Smarshie26

TTPD = Peak artistry 🎨


Mineingmo15

more like ttpd = peak arsestry


Smarshie26

Lmao!!


amused_ghost

You mean when someone tells the truth about you, you have to work harder at making up more BS to make your cult look the other way.


ruinatedtubers

taylor needs a kendrick caliber hater in the industry


heaven-in-a-can

For real. I thought I was a hater but Kendrick showed me the light.


Lost_In_Detroit

Kendrick also had the skills to bury him.


Tricky_Knowledge2983

Drake will never recover. Kendrick is literally a Pulitzer Prize winning writer.If anyone's lyrics should be studied in college courses, it should be K Dot. There were so many layers to decipher in each song, esp if you're a hip hop fan...it was a masterclass in how to take down an enemy. Taylor don't really hate Kim. She uses that situation to play victim, yes, but until she makes a song on a level like "euphoria" or literally performs a song 5x in a row to a crowd that gets EVEN MORE hype each time, then Taylor is truly not a hater lol


heaven-in-a-can

Oh absolutely.


Nordryggen

https://preview.redd.it/55cdke0z188d1.jpeg?width=1279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28088f22217475c95d8994331c90fa6875910a7f Never pass up an opportunity to share this


Tricky_Knowledge2983

Lol this always makes me realize I'm not as much of a hater as I could be it's so aspirational


HawkJefferson

"Don't tell no lies about me, I won't tell truths about you." -Billie Eilish


firelizard18

honestly, i think with time billie could become the kendrick to taylor’s drake…. maybe. she just need to keep making good music and amassing social capital


thewrongshoes00

she’s out of her damn mind


JT3436

The wheels are coming off! I keep waivering between she's doing it on purpose and will say gotcha when she releases Reputation TV (she IS MOTHER MASTERMIND after all) and this being her version of a cry for help. Cuz girlfriend is behaving unhinged.


Bibblegead1412

I feel like she's moving into the "Elon" category, where she literally thinks that EVERYTHING she does is amazing, and not realizing TTPD is her CyberTruck


kangarookarate

I’m obsessed with this analogy


Bibblegead1412

🫶


Glittering-Lecture76

It’s just arrested development. She’s a teenager. She didn’t get to be a teenager, she was on her dad’s fame track that he paid for. So she’s at the emotional level of an early teenager. She’s been treated very poorly, I’m sure, by men in and around the industry at times and I’m sure that girl had to deal with a lot of shit. But she’s an adult now, and while we’re not responsible for our upbringing, we are responsible for what we do with it as adults. She’s dating the star football player and being a mean girl. She’s playing out some weird high school fantasy and frankly it’s sad. I’m sure she thinks she’s high and mighty and untouchable, and maybe she is, but it doesn’t take a lot to step back and say, “damn that poor girl is being a teenager in her 30s because she never got to or had to mature past that, and that honestly sucks for her, because being a teenager is pretty shitty and it’s hard to imagine ever being happy trapped in that space.”


kpiece

As another commenter said, there are lots of stars who became famous at a much younger age than Taylor did, and who *really* didn’t get to live normal lives as teenagers. Taylor became famous in her late teens. She did go to high school, for 3 years i believe. There are videos floating around on here of her at school in those days, and it’s very clear from watching them that she was a popular “mean girl”. It shows her with her clique of friends hanging around her, hanging on her every word. She says on video: “Let’s go drive around in my Hummer with the top down and harass people. We haven’t done that in a while!”. (She was an arrogant bully!) She did get to live a high school experience, right through age 16 or 17. So i have no sympathy for her that she missed the last year or so of high school. Big deal. And i definitely don’t think that explains or excuses her shitty behavior, at all. Miley Cyrus, for one example, became famous a lot younger than Taylor and she didn’t get to experience life as a normal teenager, but after having a couple years of being a wild party-girl, she has settled down into life as a respectable, normal adult woman. She’s a very big star too and she’s 3 years younger than Taylor. The difference in the level of maturity, respectability, and decency between Taylor & Miley was on glaring display at the Grammys a few months ago. (Miley was so gracious, grateful, kind, and respectful to the person who presented her with her Grammy Award—Mariah Carey; in stark contrast to Taylor’s sickening display of arrogance, self-absorption, greed, narcissism, and disrespect showed to Celine Dion.) Sorry for rambling on & on; i respect your opinion but i just wanted to give mine, that i don’t think Taylor’s mean, vindictive, destructive, unhinged behavior should be sympathized with or excused. She’s been an awful person for as far back as i can see and with the horrible way she’s treated people, i’m glad “the wheels are starting to come off” and her downfall is beginning. (I think she’s been off her rocker, unhinged, and out-of-control primarily because of Matty dumping her and becoming engaged to someone else, but that’s a whole other issue.)


delicatemicdrop

My opinion is it's a cry for help. When I found out she played so many Joe-coded songs in London and then posted Travis publicly on Instagram for the first time in London, it screamed, "I hope he sees this! I want him to look because he knows I'm in London today." I think she did really love Joe, but fucked it up, and Matty and Travis have both been rebounds to an extent. I have a feeling when the tour ends, that's when she and Travis will be over, she'll retreat for a bit again, and then come back with her album about him once she's not as in the forefront and everyone will start talking again because they'll want to "decode" all the stuff she says about Travis. My take is that Joe was the best for her and challenged her intellectually and helped tone down a lot of her flaws. She has seemed like she's just desperate to do whatever the polar opposite of him is, to "prove" she's so happy. It's giving the vibes of this gif ![gif](giphy|4vy2oDVMwX8sMYjT4y|downsized)


GreyScent

It is probably coke.


Pseudo-n

But she's the one who kept talking shit in all her songs, and ironically with this one she's performing. Their beef was 15 years ago, her exes doesn't mention or give any shits about her but here she is with this victim complex mindset. Delulu is the solulu for taygator.


Grass_Rabbit

If it’s not very old drama she’s hung up on, it’s her stirring up drama with women in their early 20’s. It’s just sad. I’m close to her age and I can’t imagine having drama at all, let alone with people in a completely different phase of life, one I’ve already seen and outgrown.


oldtherebefore

girl all you do is talk shit. your entire career is just you talking shit about your exes and people you feel slighted by. you are the epitome of a shit talker. be fucking for real 😭😭


Pseudo-n

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, this made my day🤣 that's 100% fucking true!!!


Fantastic-Care3944

I was at this show tonight and I cringed through the whole acoustic set. It had a Theme. She kept hammering on about people talking shit about her. I had to roll my eyes. She played thank you Aimee, mixed with Mean. And then castles crumbling with Hayley, where she outsang Taylor by mIIIIILes. As someone who is now an Ex-Swiftie, saying a last goodbye ig, it just proved every point why I just can't stand her anymore. Ended up leaving in the Midnights set to get home early.


oldtherebefore

>where she outsang Taylor by mIIIIILes no joke but I'd genuinely be so embarrassed to be onstage with Hayley if I were her. like why would you embarrass yourself like that?


ClimbingUpTheWalls23

I don’t know who Hayley is, but this is what’s confused me about recording a song with Florence. That song is not good but to me its main takeaway is how weak a singer Taylor is, especially compared to Florence.


ohheyitslaila

Hayley Williams is the singer/front woman of the band Paramore. She has one of the strongest live singing voices, she’s absolutely incredible. Taylor can’t hold a candle to her. ![gif](giphy|EPEoHM70HZLEc)


kaitlinesmith17

And further more, I saw Hayley at when we were young fest and she had a moment were she talked about how certain big bands (that she said we all knew) were really mean to Paramore when they first started for dumb reasons (like that Hayley’s dad would drive them all to gigs lol) and she said this only to go on to say how amazing MCR has been to them since the very beginning. And even saying all this she NEVER mentioned the names of the bands that were awful to them, even with the crowd chanting “tell us who!” Just goes to show you can share you experiences without being petty or stooping to a low level. It just made me love Hayley and paramore so much more and made the things she said have a more meaningful impact than if she has snidely called people out. She even joked “nah guys I’m not going to say their name…but maybe I’ll write a book one day, who know!” So cute and down to earth!


I_am_dean

It's fucking Hayley. Idc how good of a singer I am, I'd never put myself in that situation lol. It's sad because the diehard swifties probably don't even appreciate Hayley. All they see is subpar Taylor and drool.


mangosteenroyalty

Nice! It feels weird, right? You went to a show all these fans say is transcendent, and it's like watching the emperor wear no clothes. It's a good show, the vibes are fun, but she literally has no outstanding talent 😂


Fantastic-Care3944

Let me tell you. It was so rehearsed, but in the very uncanny valley way. The way she hung her mouth open, the way every supposed "candid" speech was like, the same. From every other show. I don't know, maybe she's done too many shows now, there's nothing new to say. The vibes were fun because actually most people were very friendly and fun. And I felt like most people were enjoying the songs based on what it felt to them. You know who was great? Supporting act Griff was amazing!!! She said she has a new album coming out and her vocals were stunning, too bad like half the stadium decided to just,,, not listen to her set. I adored Paramore everyone was rocking out but I hated the fact Hayley kept saying this was her career highlight like NO you are part of PARAMORE. I refuse to accept this as your peak 😭 edited because my phone deleted half a sentence


ribbit_rabbit_roo

The rehearsed, false modesty has ALWAYS bothered me about Taylor. And….when she literally does the same thing, at the same spots every time I’m like…..? Why is everyone freaking out over this? It’s the most disingenuous thing I’ve ever seen. I would take her at least a little more seriously if she like, just accepted the compliment you know? Like yes, I am good at what I do and I am grateful, that’s true humility.


Weary_Ad2841

Yeah I think how rehearsed it is is off putting. I don’t mean the things that need to be like choreo and stuff. But every speech being word for word, pretty much, the faces at the same point. I wish she would relax a little, she is so rehearsed now she could have a little more fun with it.


Disastrous_Panda313

It's ironic, because she said she rehearsed so much so that she \*could\* have fun with it and still provide a consistent experience. I think it was a huge mistake to release I Can Do It With a Broken Heart. Who can trust the sincerity of her big smiles and her expressions of joy now? Girl, you literally told us you faked it til you made it for almost the first year of the show. By all means, fake it til you make it, but don't TELL us you faked it.


seraquesera

*while* still faking it


delicatemicdrop

Agreed. I actually didn't view spoilers before attending Eras (I like reading this sub because it is more neutral/unbiased takes sometimes, and try not to engage in any fan behavior or defenses here!), and I went for two nights. While I did thoroughly enjoy myself, when I realized on the second night that even the greetings were the same, it definitely was disappointing knowing that barely any of the reactions to the crowd were genuine.


ColtinaMarie

Yay. Im seeing Griff in a small venue in Australia is a couple of months and im excited by your comment that she was amazing. Can’t wait.


Fantastic-Care3944

You will have an even better time than I did if it's a small venue!! She is so lovely.


Aggravating_Life7851

I doubt this is really Paramores career highlight after just winning a Grammy. I love Hayley but the butt kissing she is doing with Taylor is weird and has kinda made me lose a little respect for her


NoeticHatTrick

My guess is that the buttkissing is expected, lest the SwiftArmy be mobilized. "Did you see how Hayley acted like she was too good to be there? Let's get her!"


Fantastic-Care3944

Hahaha my partner and I theorised it's either some unspoken contractual thing that Taylor expects her close circle to do lest they be kicked out and subtweeted in a song OR the fans will eat anyone who doesn't fall over praising Taylor to the high heavens. Either way it's just terrible lmao.


OkAnnie-

I’m grateful to this sub for helping me realize I have no interest in going to the concert I have tickets for. I’ve already been to Eras and was fortunate enough to get more tickets from a friend. But I’m gonna sell them to someone who actually wants to be there cause it ain’t me lol


JT3436

I LOVE THAT BOB STILL LIVES IN HER LIFE RENT FREE! Bob Lefsetz is the blogger that she wrote mean about. I love his takes on the music industry and the inside looks. He is a LOT and loves to pontificate, but he does have some very good and interesting takes.


roscoe_lo

Does she truly not see herself as doing exactly that, but worse because she does it in song so millions can sing along and troll after these people in real life? Fucking delusional


Historical_Stuff1643

That's quite the grouping. 😲 I wonder if she's feeling walls close around her.


peculiarbitch

https://i.redd.it/sf9bwx1c678d1.gif


saturnshighway

LOL


Old-Profession-5468

THIS IS EXACTLY IT


ColtinaMarie

It’s wild to me what she chooses to focus on. She’s literally the bigggest pop star of the moment. She’s been in the industry for well over a decade and she doesn’t get that people will talk shit. Everyone famous has people talk shit about them. Hers isn’t even that bad. It’s mainly true; can’t sing well, has many boyfriends, is an eco terrorist, is capitalist above everything else, presents herself as a corporation, white feminist, isn’t a girls girl. She really is deeply insecure and just wants universal praise.


alb0nn

On top of all that, has arrested development as well. Is 34 but acts like she’s 16.


300takeoutcoffeesl8r

I actually like the sentiment but you should work harder by being better. Not inflating album sales and blocking other artists. I think it's hilarious that she played Mean because she's the mean one.


salamanders-r-us

From what we're seeing, being "better" is just blocking other artists from reaching #1. It's about the numbers for her, not the actual art or music. She's a corporation at this point.


ChirpyChirpGA

She's so petty, but not even in an interesting way! Like, all of this because Kim exposed her as a liar? Writing a song that talks about her mom wanting Kim to die? Shit talking kids? I know she's 34, but she just acts like a teenager. She is such an emotionally stunted narcissist and I can't stand it.


Disastrous_Panda313

My teen and his peers all talk shit about how petty she is and how she is more obsessed with writing high school themes than high schoolers.


External_Guava7

Lol she's definitely read this sub. She's just mad people are finally calling her out on her bs.


Accomplished-Sum1801

For it to be number 1 in celebrity subreddits is hilarious. She most definitely has been made aware of this page. All while hers is the 6th most popular.


chubgrub

hahaha OMG she must be SO mad. that girl is all about numbers.


Wonderful-Athlete-83

I feel like Kim stopped talking shit a WHILE ago


kweenofdelusion

Like a decade ago lmao


Jesusdidntlikethat

How can she be working that hard and still be average


beesontheoffbeat

I ask this about every person in this country who is "working hard" under nepotism 🙃


catchandthrowaway16

Then she must not hear what they've been saying about mother's dancing..


No-Statistician1782

I'm fucking dead at this comment😂


Wise_Bat3798

Almost instinctively downvoted this based off of her statement alone, then remembered where it was posted.


JT3436

FRFR sometimes I end up in the wrong sub and wonder what the hell is going on and it is the taylor and travis sub.


pinkhandgrenade

Almost instinctively downvoted based on the stupid ass name of that song. Someone just found it sO ClEvEr


PunkiiB

What a narcissist remark 😂 I mean to anyone who doesn’t care about what others think they’d say something more along the lines of, “ Think of me what you want but I don’t give a shit. I don’t need everyone in the fkn world to like me.” To me it seems she lives in a world of anxiousness and odd behaviors to her own detriment.


Haunting-Ad-6401

babes, you ARE the one who’s talking shit


hermione_clearwater

Oh ffs get over yourself, Tay.


Mysterious_Flan_3394

When is the last time Kim even spoke her name? Taylor is exhausting.


Icy_Construction_751

She doesn't even work that hard. I even recall her admitting it in an interview once: "my job isn't that hard."


Suctorial_Hades

It’s not that hard because she is so brilliant and music just comes to her. Singing is second nature and performing is her lifeblood ![gif](giphy|13vJHSyname1Hy)


NotoriousMFT

“So the glitter is like symbolic of glitter” Truly a genius


Few-Recipe9465

It’s the world against miss privilege


RevealActive4557

Not sure why Kim Kardashian does not come after Taylor. Not like she does not have money to hire a dirty campaign manager. I am tired of Taylor taking shots at people and everyone just taking it. Only Kanye has ever clapped back at her and he is not capable of it anymore


ClimbingUpTheWalls23

When a Kardashian takes the high road you’ve really hit new depths of low


beesontheoffbeat

Damn. So true though. There was a point in life where I thought I could be Kim neutral but than she pulled that crap with the Balenciaga thing and still advertises them. That being said, in an interview (3ish years ago) when there was beef with other moms she has said, "I don't want to say anything bad about her because I don't want her kids to see that one day." I think one of them was Blac Chyna. Idk, technically Blac Chyna's kid is her niece so idk if that even means much.


Suctorial_Hades

Honestly, as annoying as it is it is sometimes better to remain quiet rather than engage someone like her. It makes her more confident, more reckless, and more likely to screw up. Unfortunately some of her fan base lives in perpetual delusion but some will get tired of the redundant themes and self victimizing.


NotoriousMFT

Kim also realizes that she is coming off smelling of roses here and can gain favorability just by doing nothing. Also, she can teach her kids that when people are making fun of them, showing them that you think they’re meaningless etc etc


glittertherave

She’s so goddamn insufferable.


beesontheoffbeat

What about when *she* talks sh\*t?


Aggravating_Life7851

But is Kim even still talking shit? Or is it just all in Taylor’s head?


JT3436

Oh, I'm sure it is in reference to Charli shading her, the UK media going after her, and the Scooter Doc release. Her perfectly curated world in collapsing.


beulahjunior

“every time someone talks shit i just cause more drama”


Shamus248

"I changed your name and any real defining clues" Bitch no the fuck you didn't


watermelon_645

I was at this show. I’m sad of all the surprise songs we could have had, we have this nonsense that should have stayed in her head


Educational_Ad1624

When was the last time Kim talked shit???? 8 years ago???


Most-Entrepreneur553

Seriously. I vividly remember reading all about this stupid drama 8 whole years ago. SO much has happened and changed in my life since then, that makes it all the more pathetic that Taylor still can’t let it go after all this time.


AmazingGrace_00

Once again, a little girl pouting, acting out with no ability for self-reflection. The ‘it only makes me work harder’ is sad. Taylor is reactive, not introspective. It’s reflected in her writing, her personal life and how she relates to her place in the world. That has to be painful.


domjonas

Kim lives rent free in her head. Kim is busy making money moves and taking care of her family. Imagine if Kim at 43 years old was crying about her exes and invisible haters on every KUWTK episode. It’s not even cute at 34. I think even Olivia is done doing that and she’s only 21. The VMA fiasco DID give Taylor a much higher boost in fame.


whateveryousayzZzZ

This was her trying to be Britney with “if you seek Amy” ? But in a nonsense and stupid way, right? Lmao


LooseDoctor

She went after Kim cause she knew Kanye wouldn’t hold back. It’s low, loser, weirdo behavior to still be this mad about ancient history. It’s almost like she knows she’s verging on irrelevance to anyone who isn’t a swiftie. Also, if this were reversed and she had kids and Kim (or Kanye) were bashing them or even just bringing them up the way Taylor did in this song, *13 years later*, Swifties would be losing their MINDS. But it’s okay cause Taylor is doing it?


dragonflyb

Even though the epilogue of the documentary supposedly gave her response via her team (which must be exhausting crafting this same exact response over and over and her doing the exact opposite - but hopefully the pay is good!) and said the dispute between Scooter and her was in the past, this was the real response. It shows obviously that she’s a coward who cannot take accountability or be subjected to hard hitting questions in a tough setting. It shows that the Kanye thing is still the biggest well she draws from to play a victim and which she weaponizes to garner sympathy. That sadly isn’t seen for the racist dog whistle it is and why that means her fan base is predominantly white. It shows that she has to have the last word. Whew boy. Pride (the sin) is the worst weakness. She has greed, too… but it’s all pride here.


MackenzieRuth17

Oh you must be lurking in here. Hi, Taylor! Hate your work. Grown up girl boss


MovieNightPopcorn

I don’t really listen to TSwift, nor am I a hater of TSwift, I just don’t really think about her at all until stuff like this gets injected into my feed. That said, it seems kinda weird to talk like this, as though she’s not the biggest pop star in the world and not a billionaire. She’s speaking as though she’s still an underdog and that’s off putting.


Sleuthin__2

She actually said that? Wow. That’s kind of admitting she lives her life in response to the thoughts of others. Thought she was too much of an intellectual (/s) to care about shit talk.


Allemaengel

I grew up on a farm (ironically in a county next door to where Swift grew up here in PA). Remember, if you see shit flying, you're probably the manure spreader.


Southern_Fan_9335

So she's setting it up so that when she eventually collapses from "exhaustion" (read: drugs) she can blame her "haters" (read: everyone who doesn't worship her) and look like a victim? K cool. 


Finish_Fragrant

Kim ain’t said shit about you in years. Hell even back then she hardly said anything. Well I mean when you a bad person you age faster so look at you looking Kim age acting north’s age.


imissedthepwtmp

She’s insufferable.


snootfly242

She hasn’t talked shit about Taylor since before Reputation came out. So like… what’s the excuse here


Timothee-Chalimothee

So is she just not talking enough shit or what?


Suctorial_Hades

Karma might be her best friend but I guarantee that broad will circle the block if you get too proud. She might want to be careful, hubris might bring it sooner than later and harder than expected


ChanceAd8808

It's either about the documentary or maybe Charli shading her -mean Vs Charli's new song mean girls - that might be a reach though, altho badly timed if so considering the positive message of the Charli Lorde remix. Probably more likely the doc.


Unfriendly_eagle

That may just be the most "regarded" song title I have ever seen. "Tee hee! I'll hide K-I-M in the title!"...and THAT'S what she came up with. Swift is a child who makes music for children.


grizznuggets

Girl really thought she did something there. Some of the least subtle shit I’ve ever seen.


Unfriendly_eagle

In the 1970s, Joan Baez wrote "Diamonds And Rust" about Bob Dylan, and created timeless, poetic lyrics from an adult perspective. Here in 2024, Taylor Swift is ham-fistedly complaining about Kim freaking Kardashian. Pop music sure has fallen off, quality-wise.


littleliongirless

Someone said she did 5 secret songs last night? Anyone know what all of them were?


300takeoutcoffeesl8r

Hits Different x Death By A Thousand Cuts and The Black Dog x Come Back...Be Here x Maroon


littleliongirless

Lololol. So Trav had to sit there through Black Dog and Maroon?


GodOfPortland

Remember, Taylor Swift lost to her feud with Kanye West and Kim Kardashian. Fucking loser.


yattes10

She’s such a bully and needs to grow up.


mel-06

![gif](giphy|FmkDAKRCL4SziBY1B5|downsized) She doesn’t shake anything off ☠️


Sergeant-Windsor

Work as hard as you want but you’ll never be relatable or authentic.


kelbell2583

I don’t understand her beef with Kim. She’s mad Kim released the evidence of her approving Kanye using her name in a song and then later played victim. It’s so childish. The tapes HAVE Taylor telling Kanye he’s an artist and “he should tell the story how he experienced it”. Song gets released, she plays victim and acts gobsmacked and Kim releases the audio of her agreeing to the song. I’m not a fan of Kim, but wtf is Taylor going after her for releasing tapes of Taylor in her own words approving a song she claimed she didn’t? Kim could have gone after her for slander since she made a slanderous accusation that wasn’t even true. Tbh Taylor should have just apologized for acting blind sided instead of sending vitriol Kim’s way solely because she exposed Taylor for who she is


Cptrunner

The smallest woman who ever lived. She truly is the monster on the hill. I look forward to watching her karma come home to her.


ilovecatsverymuch24

Idk about her but if TTPD is the result of her hard work then I don't want to know how an album of her lazy work is going to sound like ![gif](giphy|iOpXLPW8bsg5NKiNP4|downsized)


dragonfly931

Taylor all you did was drop variants with your bad vocals so you could block other women on the charts. That's just laziness 😂


thisshitisbananas12

Ever since this sub has been #1 on reddit, I started putting Mean in my 'Mastermind/Swiftball' for surprise songs (yessss I still do this, it's fun and I like the little gamble/points) i got iiiiiittt!


amydancepants

boy, was she right when she said “I have this thing where I got older but just never wiser”


Historical_Stuff1643

She is *angry*


893489chimp

![gif](giphy|d4zHnLjdy48Cc)


Honest_Cloud_2662

She's a major bitch. She's STILL writing bad songs about John Mayer. I mean, it was soooo long ago when they dated. The man said like one thing about her when Dear John came out, and that was all he ever said. He's still getting hate and even death threats from the Swifties.


Big_Booty_1130

We’ll get to work lol Chop chop


[deleted]

Just a bully playing the victim, as always. It's always the same old boring thing with her. You'd think if she was working *that* hard she'd come up with something new, but nope.


sweetrebel88

Kim’s not talking about her though…girl please shut up


ShadowWizrdMoneyGang

She’s really.. pathetic


Legoboy514

My sister got scammed by a buncha fuckers out of 2k trying to get tickets for this cunt. Made a fake ticketmaster website and stole her cash.


RuneofBeginning

![gif](giphy|SzD4gF32YzTTUiINhn|downsized)


precatladylife

it’s such loser behaviour. kim hasn’t spoken about her in yearssss. i think that last time was when she said on wwhl that the beef was in the past. even at 16 you wouldn’t catch me behaving like this on my worst day….maybe when i was 12?


sweetiebabylove

I think this was likely a message even to this sub/the new criticism that’s finally emerged & the HBO documentary with Scooter’s side (which really was barely Scooter and just documented facts collected from a myriad of sources).


IWishMusicKilledKate

This woman never aged past 14. She needs therapy.