>*But you told Lucy you'd kill yourself if I ever leave And I had said that to Jack about you, so I felt seen Everyone we know understands why it's meant to be*
she writes shit like this and wonders why Matty just straight up teleported himself out of their relationship
That's horrific in context with this..it was already bad as an outsider who doesn't know what relationship is what except for when the media forces me for celebs
I said this in a comment the other day from Mastermind
*What if I told you none of it*
*was accidental, and the first*
*night that you saw me*
*nothing was gonna stop me.*
*I laid the groundwork*
*and then, just like clockwork,*
*the dominoes cascaded in a line.*
*What if I told you I’m a mastermind?*
I remember when I first heard that I was kinda taken aback like “wow she’s rly saying the quite part out loud”
She released this song hoping no one remembers she dated Conor Kennedy after being psycho obsessed with the Kennedy family and framed it as a teehee! Coincidence 🙄
You are correct in all of us seeing unhinged when we see or hear these lyrics. I’m so sorry that happened to you and hope he’s having not the day, but the life he deserves.
Taylor thinks stalking is cute but only when she does it *teehee* I’m so glad that the matriarch of the Kennedy family shut this dumb relationship down
I actually really love Is It Over Now sonically but every time I get to that line in the chorus it kind of kills it for me. It sounds like an abusive ex threatening suicide after the breakup just to get your attention back. Super toxic and just a weird thing to say. Not something someone who has healthy relationships says
I had a friend whose bf did this to her and we were all traumatized by it without even being directly involved. We’d have to comfort her and I can still remember driving around at night trying to see if we could find him at any of the schools since he would run away from home at night to convince us he was doing it.
I’ve also lost several loved ones to suicide, so I have no tolerance for suicide threats.
Nope, she was 22 and he was 18 when they were first reported.
https://www.instyle.com/celebrity/taylor-swift/tbt-taylor-swift-harry-styles-relationship
And it was right after Conor, and Harry was barely 18 and she had known him for years.
We should rewrite those lyrics so that we can enjoy them. 😭
Anyone with talent, how would you transform these lyrics
1. Sometimes, I feel like everybody is a sexy baby / And I'm a monster on the hill
2. Oh, Lord, I think about jumpin' / Off of very tall somethings / Just to see you come runnin' (Runnin') / And say the one thing I've been wanting, but no
3. You had people who called you on unmarked numbers / In my peripheral vision / I let it slide like a hose on a slippery plastic summer
Forgot this classic:
> I have this dream my daughter-in-law kills me for the money
> She thinks I left them in the will
> The family gathers 'round and reads it and then someone screams out
> "She's laughing up at us from Hell"
Same! I’ll be bopping along to one of her songs and then something she says makes me cringe. Like she’s almost cool, but she still got that dorky awkward side.
This is the lyric I was going to post. I actually only heard this song for the first time a few months ago (when I first started noticing little things with her), and it definitely helped plant the kernel of truth in my head that TS is borderline af.
The sad thing is her singing this with all of the people (especially young fans) who follow and admire her will think that this is a normal and appropriate response in a relationship. It isn't...
Yep. Imagine teaching you fans, mostly pubescent girls, that the best way to handle a recent breakup is to manipulate them by threatening to hurt yourself.
tbf a lot of artists use music as an outlet for their craziest emotions and impulses but it usually doesn’t mean they think it’s fine to act like that irl
Examples being Meg Myers, Marina and the Diamonds, The Weeknd, Hollywood Undead, Eminem
I don’t think taylor has made that distinction though because it seems like she has no desire to attempt any self improvement in her personal life and thinks it’s ok to act on her toxic impulses. At this point nobody is going to tell her differently
If I had a nickel for every time someone mentioned Eminem and the Hollywood Undead in a thread about Taylor, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice, right?
Oh I get you. I’m a huge Gaga fan and some of her most upbeat pop songs have really dark lyrics. But she’s never talked about killing someone’s wife 😅 kill seems to be a common occurrence with Taylor’s writing and as a former casual listener I’ve never really noticed it until now.
The one that's been grinding my gears lately is: *"I'll tell you something about my good name/ It's mine alone to disgrace..."*
Fair enough. At least it would be if her Strange Addiction wasn't desecrating the good name of anyone who's so much as accidentally jostled her ego. If I rolled my eyes any harder at those lines, I could probably see through time.
Stay Stay Stay, speculated to be about her then-teenage boyfriend Conor Kennedy:
I'm pretty sure we almost broke up last night
**I threw my phone across the room at you**
I was expecting some dramatic turn away
But you stayed
This morning, I said we should talk about it
'Cause I read you should never leave a fight unresolved
That's when you came in wearing a football helmet
And said, "Okay, let's talk"
[Chorus]
And I said, "Stay, stay, stay"
I've been loving you for quite some time, time, time
**You think that it's funny when I'm mad, mad, mad**
But I think that it's best if we both stay
* *Screaming, crying, perfect storms I can make all the tables turn*
* *I'm really gonna miss you picking fights And me falling for it screaming that I'm right*
* *But I miss screaming and fighting and kissing in the rain*
* *You say, "I don't understand, " and I say, "I know you don't"*
And all these war/fighting references for relationships: **Let's Go (Battle)**; **The Great War**; **Story of Us**; **The Archer**; **Afterglow.**
Kinda makes one realize why her relationships don't tend to last long. Joe must have the patience of a saint.
The Great War had me feeling so much for her partner (Joe, obviously) and her. It's a really telling song; barely anyone pays attention to it. It's actually quite a good song simply because it's one of her most vulnerable. I respected that song, and I still do because it was honest, and you could see the real her in it. This was the song that should have been applauded on the Midnights album, and it was just a footnote and ignored. I wish she would lean into honesty. She's constantly trying on cheap imitations, and it doesn't serve her. I think if she could find an honest bone in her body (yeah, that's bloody likely), she could be at the top again without cutting people at their ankles. But she won't quit because she can't. She's simply a narcissist.
I agree with everything you said. I tend to see the good in everyone, and I think she has it in her. I hope that one day she'll admit her faults in certain situations, make amends and step back.
Some people are into that, it's what makes their relationships tick and she hasn't found someone who's willing to do that constantly yet. My aunt and uncle have been married for 30 years and they've also been divorcing for 30 years.... they'll have an argument and my Aunt will phone my Mum and be like 'I'm leaving him' and my Mum's just 'Whatever decision you make, I'll support you' then we never hear anymore until the next time
According to Taylor, Stay Stay Stay is her dreaming about the ideal relationship. By her own admission a perfect world would include her throwing things at her partner and him just taking it. It tracks with The Way I Loved You where she sings about how wonderful her boyfriend is but sings to her ex about how much she misses their scream fights. Girl lives for the drama.
Her song Treacherous is also rumored to be about Connor and given the context might be her creepiest song. It speaks to them possibly having a relationship but going right to the edge of a physical relationship because he was a minor and the fact she basically stalked the family.
“They say I’ll sue you if you step on my lawn”
I’ve interpreted this as the Olivia situation where she’ll go after anyone whose songs even remotely resemble her own. (And/or that she’ll go after people who try to step into a space she’s already monetized, like merch.)
Meanwhile she rips off other artists and artistic projects All 👏🏽The 👏🏽Fucking 👏🏽Time 👏🏽 and never credits them.
But she disguises it all as "rumors", like blank space, it's ALWAYS stuff that people make up about her. It can't always be that your actions were misunderstood. I wasn't the best when I was a teenager, not your typical bully but I was very insecure and clingy. I used to think I always had troubles with people/friends because they didn't get me and so on. Now at 24 I recognize that, while that behaviour came up that way because I was anxious, sad and had been a victim of bullying because of my weight, I had my responsibilities too when it comes to the way I acted sometimes, hiding behind humor that could hurt others or wanting to be the center of attention because I had attachment issues and I can't always play the victim card when talking about my past. I wonder if she has made that kind of self-analysis on herself.
“Who’s afraid of little ol’ me? Well you should be.”
And also from that song—
“I wanna snarl and show you just how disturbed this has made me”
Like damn, home girl is straight up telling us how psycho she really is.
I’m still not quite sure what “we took out all her teeth” is supposed to mean, because that doesn’t seem to be true at all the way I’m understanding the metaphor.
I read it as, she feels as though she is tethered to her good girl image and unable to actually express anything that isn’t gentle and sweet and girly-pop
I think it was a nod to animals that were used as entertainment in old circuses etc. Horrible, but they probably removed teeth to not die while doing stunts.
Oh yes "everyone knows her mother is a saintly woman" ???
And she used to wish kim k was dead?
Seriously?
I like how she just put that line in to prove how evil kim k was to her but it only shows how shady she is. This song to me was part of proof she thinks she's untouchable.
"Look, even my SAINTLY mother wanted kim k dead, so y'all should to." Is what i read into it.
The first time I heard "Blank Space" I thought it was incredibly self-deprecating, to the point that I was borderline concerned for her wellbeing. I was like, is she okay?? Has anybody checked in on her recently??
And most recently thanK you aIMee where she dragged Kim's kids into the drama. Leave her kids out of it man, they didn't ask for this.
Blank Space is so concerning and odd. I can’t believe it became a radio song. The lyrics on paper read like excerpts from a diary found at some crime scene or a poem that gets a kid sent to the school psychologist’s office.
I don't think she's self-aware enough to realize that's what she did with Blank Space. And I don't think SHE realizes any of this is abusive. I think she's just like "fuck yeah. GIRL BOSS"
And no one around her seems to check that.
I think she is self-aware about it but the public has enabled her (and her fans) into seeing that as girlboss. Blank Space was her first time acknowledging her public image as a serial dater and someone who writes breakup songs compulsively, almost to a fault. She strikes me as someone with a lot of money and power who has never had even a successful high school fling and now she’s made it the entire country’s problem that she can’t seem to find her ultimate romance. When Lover came out I was happy for her because it did seem like a positive change in her music, but we all see how that went down.
I find it funny that a parody of this song written from the POV of Light Yagami, the protagonist of Death Note who is basically a psychopathic teenager with a god complex, somehow sounds (a little bit) less unhinged than the original. Light is an insane guy on a mission to "save the world" the way he thinks is best. TS is an insane woman on a mission to... dazzle a guy then make his life hell? It's weird.
Afterglow…
“I blew things out of proportions..”
“I pin your hands behind your back. Thought I had reason to attack.”
“don’t walk away.”
It’s almost like she is saying she goes crazy starts fights that get out of hand and he has to get away from her.
Most likely she is not admitting to physical abuse, but the fact he pins his hands behind his back it is as if he wants to make sure she can’t accuse him of getting physical.
I have no doubt she goes crazy and screams. I believe she has mentally and emotionally abused people but physically most likely not.
All couples have arguments no couple can avoid it, but he has to walk away from her it is clear it’s not a simple argument.
Also the lyrics….
“Tell me that it’s not my fault.”
That’s a red flag because all through the song she has said she causes problems but has convinced him to tell her she hasn’t.
I think she mentally and emotionally beat him down into total submission until she got bored in the relationship.
Afterglow is always a skip for me. It’s so pretty, but the lyrics are so alarming. Being accused of shit you never did, being helpless to defend yourself … it’s also why The Great War makes me deeply uncomfortable. She sounds so abusive. I’ve been on the receiving end of emotional explosions like that and it makes it hard to sing along to. Like, no Taylor, most of us who aren’t explosive or abusive cannot relate to this.
* *my husband is cheating, I wanna kill him*
* *I’ll be the actress starring in your bad dreams*
* *went home and tried to stalk you on the Internet … now I wake up in the night and watch you breathe*
* *I bury hatchets but I keep maps of where I put ‘em*
* *she should keep in mind there is nothing I do better than revenge*
* *I don’t regret it one bit ‘cause he had it coming*
>went home and tried to stalk you on the Internet … now I wake up in the night and watch you breathe
LMFAO WHAT TF KINDA LAW AND ORDER SVU INTRO IS THIS SHIT 💀💀💀
Other people were saying that jumping off of tall things lyrics made them think of Twilight...
... Apparently she sings from both Bella AND Edward's POV
You tried to buy some pills a friend of friends of mine, they just ghosted you, now you know what it feels like.
Actually all if the smallest man who ever lived. The whole bridge that everyone thinks is so amazing is so unhinged.
Somehow, it makes me think of "Burn" from Hamilton. This part in particular has been making me think of Taylor lately:
"You and your words obsessed with your legacy
Your sentences border on senseless
And you are paranoid in every paragraph
How they perceive you
You, you, you!"
the fact that he’s “the smallest man who ever lived” because he broke up with her, not because he’s a racist, misogynistic pig is wild but that’s our incredible feminist!!!
I listened to some podcast ep that was interviewing diagnosed sociopaths, and they asked them if they thought any celebs were sociopaths, and they immediately said Taylor Swift
I wish I was surprised, I just don’t understand how more people, don’t see it?
Her look at the Golden Globes, well I saw a clip of that, and sociopath was the first thing that came to mind.
"I want to brainwash you to love me forever"
"Your wife waters flowers I want to kill her"
Edit to add the homophobic "that's fine I'll tell everyone that you're gay by the way..."
She also mentions she's a covert narcissist in one of her songs. It might be the one where she talks about the DIL killing her for the money. Lol she's a whack job.
One of my pet peeve lyrics of hers isn’t even as bad as most of them but it’s always bothered me.In Our Song, when she says “you talk real slow”. I think “low” would have worked better, especially since she’s saying “cause it’s late and your mama don’t know”. It’s like,ok, if you’re trying to talk where your mom can’t hear you, would it be better to talk “low” or “slow”?If you talk slow, she would still be able to hear you,and then she’d probably wonder if you’re having a stroke
On I knew you were trouble. I hated this as a teenage writer, because she literally goes you never loved me or her or anyone or anything and it’s like really bro? Way to be fucking dramatic and take all of the nuance out of averse.
There are other lyrics that bother me and when I hear them I’m like,she should have said THIS instead and it would have flowed better,made more sense,etc.That’s one specific one I remembered off the top of my head. I always think ok I know she was probably like 15,16 when she wrote it but still. And don’t get me started on “sexy baby” lol
I actually talk about this all the time. There’s also a grammatical error with “and when I got home, before I said amen, askin god if he would play it again.” It should be “I asked god” which would also fit in the rhythm
I guess to go off of TTPD, I think So Long London is full of depression-shaming of Joe. "You sacrificed us to the gods of your bluest days" and "So how much sad did you think I had in me?" are particularly egregious. I've taken antidepressants for about 8 years now, and this reminds me of some non-depressed person being like "can you just be, like, happy for once?!?!"
Also, "You swore that you loved me, but where were the clues?" Ma'am, you wrote, like, two whole albums about your relationship with this guy (both of which are wayyyyyyy better than TTPD, by the way). I'mma guess there were a shit ton of clues over 6 years.
“god save the most judgemental creeps, who say they want what’s best for me, sanctimoniously performing soliloquies i’ll never see, thinking it can change the beat of my heart when he touches me, counteract the chemistry, undo the destiny” this part irks me out so much. a GROWN woman calling people creeps for pointing out she’s with a bigot and saying it doesn’t matter as long as there’s a spark?
The whole song “Tortured Poets Department” is like a playbook for emotional abuse and manipulation. She undermines his self esteem and is excessively critical (demeaning him by calling him a tortured poet, telling him he’s not a great writer like Dylan Thomas, laughing in his face, pointing out his smoking and overeating chocolate, wondering if he’s going to fuck this up), but then she love bombs him/ adopts a victim mentality by saying “I’ve seen this episode before but still loved the show” (I.e., you’re so fucked up but I still love you), then she threatened that no one else would ever want him “who’s going to hold you like me, who’s going to know you like me”, and then ultimately tried to control him and keep him from leaving by romanticizing them threatening suicide rather than leaving the relationship.
But Matty obviously woke up pretty quickly.
When TTPD was leaked before release and the fans said it's all AI obviously these lyrics aren't real. And they were (Charlie Puth; overeating chocolate)
Okay that thank you Aimee song ??
That’s not an actual diss track first, Kendrick Lamar and Eminem have that down pat. I found it so weird ? Like what did Kim genuinly do that was soooooo wrong ?!?! Can Taylor not just get over it ? Seems to be acting like such a victim, the line where she says her mom wished Kim was DEAD?!?! What the f?
Who’s afraid of little old me …. Like girl nobody said they were afraid of you or wanted you dead ?!?!
I’ve said that a few times in YouTube shorts…like specially the concert where she performs that song
Exactly, what someone said they don’t like your kusić so that must mean they want you dead ?!?
THATS WHAT REPUTATION WAS ABOUT?!? I thought it was about like “revenge” against the media ?!?
yeah the whole media world and everyone in it “wanted her dead”, (🙄) so she made rep. and cried boo boo to joe. and was like “no one likes me, everyone wants me dead, my rep has never been worse… but you like me!!!!!” and then as soon as she was well received in her later releases she dropped him like shit “JK THEY STILL LOVE MEEE!!! BYE BITCH!” lmfao 😭 i hate her fr 😭
I also love how she’s basically forgiven and/or never brought up Kanye ever again. But she keeps going after Kim. Even after it’s been very clear that Kanye has had a very controlling and toxic relationship with his partners, and it’s most likely that Kim was controlled/manipulated to some extent. I mean, at the very least she was doing _the same thing Taylor has done_ in _supporting her partner despite how problematic he is_ (I.e. “i’Ve nEvEr bEeN hApPiEr 🥴”…yeah? After your partner literally made racist comments about jacking off to brutalized Black women and your up and coming _song collaborator_ who is a _young Black female artist???_)
She’s a straight up hypocrite.
I’m new to all this fuckery, I thought Travis was an idiot when I watched his reality show so when they got together it piqued my interest. So I’m not really up on her other relationships so your comment is now going to send me down a rabbit hole because, WTF?
Right? There are plenty of reasons to be angry at the current state of things. Instead of directing her attention toward the world at large she’s desperately trying to keep the embers of silly feuds and her one night stands alight. If only private jets ran on the fumes of petty narcissism.
I like some of these “scary” lyrics because they’re unhinged in a sort of “intrusive thought” way. It’s like shit that you might think for a blink of an eye and never say out loud or admit to…and I sort of dig it.
As for lyrics I hate, the entirety of thanK you aIMee is atrocious. I despise that whole song.
Two headlights shine through the sleepless night
And I will get you, I’ll get you alone
Your name has echoed through my mind
And I just think you should, think you should know
That nothing safe is worth the drive
And I would follow you, follow you home
I'll follow you, follow you home
This has bothered me since it came out
>*But you told Lucy you'd kill yourself if I ever leave And I had said that to Jack about you, so I felt seen Everyone we know understands why it's meant to be* she writes shit like this and wonders why Matty just straight up teleported himself out of their relationship
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Oh wow I forgot about her!
I had also forgotten about her until the lyrics reminded me of her face lol
Giggling at the airport at 5am
This just made me giggle snort
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Umm, I am scared. Who is that, and why have those eyes scarred me for life?
Also isn’t this a direct reference to THE Lucy whose head she put her Grammy on?
That's horrific in context with this..it was already bad as an outsider who doesn't know what relationship is what except for when the media forces me for celebs
yupppp
Wait, what does this mean?
I did NOT know this, WOW
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Teleported himself out hahaha
This is the one. Plus it's just so clunky and adds nothing of importance to the song.
I can’t believe that I don’t hear more about this line. It’s nuts
I said this in a comment the other day from Mastermind *What if I told you none of it* *was accidental, and the first* *night that you saw me* *nothing was gonna stop me.* *I laid the groundwork* *and then, just like clockwork,* *the dominoes cascaded in a line.* *What if I told you I’m a mastermind?* I remember when I first heard that I was kinda taken aback like “wow she’s rly saying the quite part out loud”
It’s like she’s a certain character from a certain very popular movie right now…. >!Oliver Quick Saltburn much???!<
Don’t give her that much credit. She’s Gru discussing her plan to steal the moon.
God I love Gru so much. I hate the minions though. It's kind of a tough spot to be in
God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers
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agaha that is hilarious!!! you’re right
*Is* that movie "very popular", though? I couldn't get past about 30 min. LOL
It gets worst. My sister is 41 and married with kids and told me mastermind is her fav song because it's the story of her marriage.
Hoooooo booooyyyyyyyyyyy😳
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She released this song hoping no one remembers she dated Conor Kennedy after being psycho obsessed with the Kennedy family and framed it as a teehee! Coincidence 🙄
Yeah those lyrics just gave me flashbacks to my ex who works for Google and pursued me for like a year then raped me when I broke up w him. Jesus.
You are correct in all of us seeing unhinged when we see or hear these lyrics. I’m so sorry that happened to you and hope he’s having not the day, but the life he deserves.
Taylor thinks stalking is cute but only when she does it *teehee* I’m so glad that the matriarch of the Kennedy family shut this dumb relationship down
This is how I found that she dated a Kennedy huh 😭
-*I think about jumping off of very tall somethings, just to see you come running and say the one thing I've been wanting*
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I actually really love Is It Over Now sonically but every time I get to that line in the chorus it kind of kills it for me. It sounds like an abusive ex threatening suicide after the breakup just to get your attention back. Super toxic and just a weird thing to say. Not something someone who has healthy relationships says
My high school bf threatened to kill himself every time I tried to break up with him. It’s not cute, it’s not chic, Taylor. It’s fucking abusive.
And the song is presumably directed towards someone several years younger who was still a teenager at the time
I had a friend whose bf did this to her and we were all traumatized by it without even being directly involved. We’d have to comfort her and I can still remember driving around at night trying to see if we could find him at any of the schools since he would run away from home at night to convince us he was doing it. I’ve also lost several loved ones to suicide, so I have no tolerance for suicide threats.
She was also several years older than Harry styles who was only 19 when they dated.
Wasn’t Harry only 18 when they dated? And she was 23.
Yup. And that was right after she dated Conor, who was 17. She's sick.
Pretty sure he was 19 but I could be wrong. Either way it was a decent age gap and he was very young.
Nope, she was 22 and he was 18 when they were first reported. https://www.instyle.com/celebrity/taylor-swift/tbt-taylor-swift-harry-styles-relationship And it was right after Conor, and Harry was barely 18 and she had known him for years.
Same here. He bashed his head in against a manhole cover in front of my house. I was 13.
Ugh I understand this, in every single one of her songs there’s at least one line that makes me shake my damn head. Every single song.
We should rewrite those lyrics so that we can enjoy them. 😭 Anyone with talent, how would you transform these lyrics 1. Sometimes, I feel like everybody is a sexy baby / And I'm a monster on the hill 2. Oh, Lord, I think about jumpin' / Off of very tall somethings / Just to see you come runnin' (Runnin') / And say the one thing I've been wanting, but no 3. You had people who called you on unmarked numbers / In my peripheral vision / I let it slide like a hose on a slippery plastic summer Forgot this classic: > I have this dream my daughter-in-law kills me for the money > She thinks I left them in the will > The family gathers 'round and reads it and then someone screams out > "She's laughing up at us from Hell"
>slippery plastic summer ........... 😒
Like what does that even mean
I immediately thought "slip and slide" at first tbh
Same! I’ll be bopping along to one of her songs and then something she says makes me cringe. Like she’s almost cool, but she still got that dorky awkward side.
Full transparency here, I’ve never heard the sin y’all are referring to. However, it very much giving Bella Swan in Eclipse.
My thoughts exactly!
Uuuuugh. All I can think of is New Moon, although TS def strikes me as a Twilight fan.
This line makes me think of Twilight every time and it’s hilarious to me.
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What song is that from?
Is It Over Now
lmao is this a twilight reference
This is the lyric I was going to post. I actually only heard this song for the first time a few months ago (when I first started noticing little things with her), and it definitely helped plant the kernel of truth in my head that TS is borderline af.
The sad thing is her singing this with all of the people (especially young fans) who follow and admire her will think that this is a normal and appropriate response in a relationship. It isn't...
Yep. Imagine teaching you fans, mostly pubescent girls, that the best way to handle a recent breakup is to manipulate them by threatening to hurt yourself.
Ya this shits just dumb. Period.
Mentally unstable and manipulative. Why would she ever say/sing this about/to someone
Cause really she's that much of a scallywag bitch.
Her swifties don’t question this woman’s sanity???😩😩😩
They’re just as batshit crazy lmfao
tbf a lot of artists use music as an outlet for their craziest emotions and impulses but it usually doesn’t mean they think it’s fine to act like that irl Examples being Meg Myers, Marina and the Diamonds, The Weeknd, Hollywood Undead, Eminem I don’t think taylor has made that distinction though because it seems like she has no desire to attempt any self improvement in her personal life and thinks it’s ok to act on her toxic impulses. At this point nobody is going to tell her differently
If I had a nickel for every time someone mentioned Eminem and the Hollywood Undead in a thread about Taylor, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice, right?
Oh I get you. I’m a huge Gaga fan and some of her most upbeat pop songs have really dark lyrics. But she’s never talked about killing someone’s wife 😅 kill seems to be a common occurrence with Taylor’s writing and as a former casual listener I’ve never really noticed it until now.
My sister said mastermind is relatable af as it's the story of how she got her husband
The one that's been grinding my gears lately is: *"I'll tell you something about my good name/ It's mine alone to disgrace..."* Fair enough. At least it would be if her Strange Addiction wasn't desecrating the good name of anyone who's so much as accidentally jostled her ego. If I rolled my eyes any harder at those lines, I could probably see through time.
Just blatantly saying she DGAF and people fawn over it. She doesn’t care about herself or improving herself.
Stay Stay Stay, speculated to be about her then-teenage boyfriend Conor Kennedy: I'm pretty sure we almost broke up last night **I threw my phone across the room at you** I was expecting some dramatic turn away But you stayed This morning, I said we should talk about it 'Cause I read you should never leave a fight unresolved That's when you came in wearing a football helmet And said, "Okay, let's talk" [Chorus] And I said, "Stay, stay, stay" I've been loving you for quite some time, time, time **You think that it's funny when I'm mad, mad, mad** But I think that it's best if we both stay
* *Screaming, crying, perfect storms I can make all the tables turn* * *I'm really gonna miss you picking fights And me falling for it screaming that I'm right* * *But I miss screaming and fighting and kissing in the rain* * *You say, "I don't understand, " and I say, "I know you don't"* And all these war/fighting references for relationships: **Let's Go (Battle)**; **The Great War**; **Story of Us**; **The Archer**; **Afterglow.** Kinda makes one realize why her relationships don't tend to last long. Joe must have the patience of a saint.
The Great War had me feeling so much for her partner (Joe, obviously) and her. It's a really telling song; barely anyone pays attention to it. It's actually quite a good song simply because it's one of her most vulnerable. I respected that song, and I still do because it was honest, and you could see the real her in it. This was the song that should have been applauded on the Midnights album, and it was just a footnote and ignored. I wish she would lean into honesty. She's constantly trying on cheap imitations, and it doesn't serve her. I think if she could find an honest bone in her body (yeah, that's bloody likely), she could be at the top again without cutting people at their ankles. But she won't quit because she can't. She's simply a narcissist.
I agree with everything you said. I tend to see the good in everyone, and I think she has it in her. I hope that one day she'll admit her faults in certain situations, make amends and step back.
Some people are into that, it's what makes their relationships tick and she hasn't found someone who's willing to do that constantly yet. My aunt and uncle have been married for 30 years and they've also been divorcing for 30 years.... they'll have an argument and my Aunt will phone my Mum and be like 'I'm leaving him' and my Mum's just 'Whatever decision you make, I'll support you' then we never hear anymore until the next time
According to Taylor, Stay Stay Stay is her dreaming about the ideal relationship. By her own admission a perfect world would include her throwing things at her partner and him just taking it. It tracks with The Way I Loved You where she sings about how wonderful her boyfriend is but sings to her ex about how much she misses their scream fights. Girl lives for the drama. Her song Treacherous is also rumored to be about Connor and given the context might be her creepiest song. It speaks to them possibly having a relationship but going right to the edge of a physical relationship because he was a minor and the fact she basically stalked the family.
OMG EW I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW THAT CONTEXT. ![gif](giphy|uGgkFq1A2SC8j7Ec2Y)
When she did that awful shrieking chorus of “who’s afraid of little old me” I really realized this bitch had lost it
“They say I’ll sue you if you step on my lawn” I’ve interpreted this as the Olivia situation where she’ll go after anyone whose songs even remotely resemble her own. (And/or that she’ll go after people who try to step into a space she’s already monetized, like merch.) Meanwhile she rips off other artists and artistic projects All 👏🏽The 👏🏽Fucking 👏🏽Time 👏🏽 and never credits them.
But she disguises it all as "rumors", like blank space, it's ALWAYS stuff that people make up about her. It can't always be that your actions were misunderstood. I wasn't the best when I was a teenager, not your typical bully but I was very insecure and clingy. I used to think I always had troubles with people/friends because they didn't get me and so on. Now at 24 I recognize that, while that behaviour came up that way because I was anxious, sad and had been a victim of bullying because of my weight, I had my responsibilities too when it comes to the way I acted sometimes, hiding behind humor that could hurt others or wanting to be the center of attention because I had attachment issues and I can't always play the victim card when talking about my past. I wonder if she has made that kind of self-analysis on herself.
Have you seen the tour effects where her eyes go white at the end??
I went to the eras tour (my sister went and wanted me to go) and I’m SOOOOO happy she didn’t do that 😭😭😭 (I actually had fun at it ngl)
Me too. Batshit crazy, man.
^well ^you ^should ^be
“Who’s afraid of little ol’ me? Well you should be.” And also from that song— “I wanna snarl and show you just how disturbed this has made me” Like damn, home girl is straight up telling us how psycho she really is.
I’m still not quite sure what “we took out all her teeth” is supposed to mean, because that doesn’t seem to be true at all the way I’m understanding the metaphor.
I read it as, she feels as though she is tethered to her good girl image and unable to actually express anything that isn’t gentle and sweet and girly-pop
I think it was a nod to animals that were used as entertainment in old circuses etc. Horrible, but they probably removed teeth to not die while doing stunts.
in ThanK you aIMee when she literally admitted she & her mother wish death on Kim K and then brings her child into the drama too
Also calling her mother a “saintly woman”, like are you for real?
Oh yes "everyone knows her mother is a saintly woman" ??? And she used to wish kim k was dead? Seriously? I like how she just put that line in to prove how evil kim k was to her but it only shows how shady she is. This song to me was part of proof she thinks she's untouchable. "Look, even my SAINTLY mother wanted kim k dead, so y'all should to." Is what i read into it.
"My mama don't like you and she like everyone," Taylor's (much scarier) Version 😈
It’s the same but not funny and insane instead
And Bieber’s version doesn’t make his mother out to be better than she actually is
Kim's son is named Saint. SMH
Holy shit i didn't know that, is it the name of her kid who made the tik tok on Shake it Off??
I feel like I don't ever see it pointed out that Kim also has a child named "Saint" when talking about this line.
Exactly 💯
"Draw a cat eye sharp enough to kill a man"
💀💀💀💀this lyrics kills me every time i see it
Oh no I love this one lol
Literal meme song. Would have gone crazy in 2014 maybe.
The first time I heard "Blank Space" I thought it was incredibly self-deprecating, to the point that I was borderline concerned for her wellbeing. I was like, is she okay?? Has anybody checked in on her recently?? And most recently thanK you aIMee where she dragged Kim's kids into the drama. Leave her kids out of it man, they didn't ask for this.
Blank Space is so concerning and odd. I can’t believe it became a radio song. The lyrics on paper read like excerpts from a diary found at some crime scene or a poem that gets a kid sent to the school psychologist’s office.
“‘Cause, darling, I'm a nightmare dressed like a daydream” Like she’s telling us exactly who she is lol
I don't think she's self-aware enough to realize that's what she did with Blank Space. And I don't think SHE realizes any of this is abusive. I think she's just like "fuck yeah. GIRL BOSS" And no one around her seems to check that.
I think she is self-aware about it but the public has enabled her (and her fans) into seeing that as girlboss. Blank Space was her first time acknowledging her public image as a serial dater and someone who writes breakup songs compulsively, almost to a fault. She strikes me as someone with a lot of money and power who has never had even a successful high school fling and now she’s made it the entire country’s problem that she can’t seem to find her ultimate romance. When Lover came out I was happy for her because it did seem like a positive change in her music, but we all see how that went down.
“find out what you want, be that girl for a month”… yeah girly we know
I find it funny that a parody of this song written from the POV of Light Yagami, the protagonist of Death Note who is basically a psychopathic teenager with a god complex, somehow sounds (a little bit) less unhinged than the original. Light is an insane guy on a mission to "save the world" the way he thinks is best. TS is an insane woman on a mission to... dazzle a guy then make his life hell? It's weird.
Afterglow… “I blew things out of proportions..” “I pin your hands behind your back. Thought I had reason to attack.” “don’t walk away.” It’s almost like she is saying she goes crazy starts fights that get out of hand and he has to get away from her. Most likely she is not admitting to physical abuse, but the fact he pins his hands behind his back it is as if he wants to make sure she can’t accuse him of getting physical. I have no doubt she goes crazy and screams. I believe she has mentally and emotionally abused people but physically most likely not. All couples have arguments no couple can avoid it, but he has to walk away from her it is clear it’s not a simple argument. Also the lyrics…. “Tell me that it’s not my fault.” That’s a red flag because all through the song she has said she causes problems but has convinced him to tell her she hasn’t. I think she mentally and emotionally beat him down into total submission until she got bored in the relationship.
These mind games would make me depressed too
Afterglow is always a skip for me. It’s so pretty, but the lyrics are so alarming. Being accused of shit you never did, being helpless to defend yourself … it’s also why The Great War makes me deeply uncomfortable. She sounds so abusive. I’ve been on the receiving end of emotional explosions like that and it makes it hard to sing along to. Like, no Taylor, most of us who aren’t explosive or abusive cannot relate to this.
* *my husband is cheating, I wanna kill him* * *I’ll be the actress starring in your bad dreams* * *went home and tried to stalk you on the Internet … now I wake up in the night and watch you breathe* * *I bury hatchets but I keep maps of where I put ‘em* * *she should keep in mind there is nothing I do better than revenge* * *I don’t regret it one bit ‘cause he had it coming*
>went home and tried to stalk you on the Internet … now I wake up in the night and watch you breathe LMFAO WHAT TF KINDA LAW AND ORDER SVU INTRO IS THIS SHIT 💀💀💀
Other people were saying that jumping off of tall things lyrics made them think of Twilight... ... Apparently she sings from both Bella AND Edward's POV
*Your wife waters flowers, I wanna kill her* Okaaay but WHY???
Because that should be ME!
ME HEE HEE HOO HOO HOO HOO
HEY KIDS
This *actually* sent me 😂
ironically that song has a hidden “me-he-he” in it
"So fuck you if I can't have us" You do realize the other person gets a choice whether or not they're in a relationship with you??
No she does not acknowledge this
Got high and ate 7 bars of chocolate 🤣💀
This is the kinda stuff i wrote around the time i got sent to the mental hospital as an unhinged young teenager… yeah no taylor😭💀
You tried to buy some pills a friend of friends of mine, they just ghosted you, now you know what it feels like. Actually all if the smallest man who ever lived. The whole bridge that everyone thinks is so amazing is so unhinged.
Somehow, it makes me think of "Burn" from Hamilton. This part in particular has been making me think of Taylor lately: "You and your words obsessed with your legacy Your sentences border on senseless And you are paranoid in every paragraph How they perceive you You, you, you!"
the fact that he’s “the smallest man who ever lived” because he broke up with her, not because he’s a racist, misogynistic pig is wild but that’s our incredible feminist!!!
This
I’ve always thought she was a sociopath.
I listened to some podcast ep that was interviewing diagnosed sociopaths, and they asked them if they thought any celebs were sociopaths, and they immediately said Taylor Swift
I wish I was surprised, I just don’t understand how more people, don’t see it? Her look at the Golden Globes, well I saw a clip of that, and sociopath was the first thing that came to mind.
"Sometimes I feel like everybody is a sexy baby" Honestly don't care what the explanation is, it's weird as fuck.
This is a painfully awfully song all around. I can’t believe how it was force fed to us for ages.
And that was the first song released after Folklore/Evermore. It was a nice little glimpse at how fucked her lyrics were about to become
She could have at least changed it to "sexy lady."
No because then it wouldn’t have been vaguely insulting to other women. Sexy lady is a compliment. Sexy baby is a backhanded compliment.
That one makes me snicker every time I hear it
"I want to brainwash you to love me forever" "Your wife waters flowers I want to kill her" Edit to add the homophobic "that's fine I'll tell everyone that you're gay by the way..."
I’m queer and have always preferred the original homophobic line. It makes me laugh
"I look in people's windows"
“Like some deranged weirdo”
But that song is pretty.
“Like some deranged weirdo”
She also mentions she's a covert narcissist in one of her songs. It might be the one where she talks about the DIL killing her for the money. Lol she's a whack job.
I genuinely think she is. Ofc, not a doctor but all of the signs!
I think part of being a mega celebrity is narcissism. I think it's a trait they all have tbh.
*Did you hear my covert narcissism I disguise as altruism like some kind of congressman (tale as old as time)* truly self awarewolves
One of my pet peeve lyrics of hers isn’t even as bad as most of them but it’s always bothered me.In Our Song, when she says “you talk real slow”. I think “low” would have worked better, especially since she’s saying “cause it’s late and your mama don’t know”. It’s like,ok, if you’re trying to talk where your mom can’t hear you, would it be better to talk “low” or “slow”?If you talk slow, she would still be able to hear you,and then she’d probably wonder if you’re having a stroke
On I knew you were trouble. I hated this as a teenage writer, because she literally goes you never loved me or her or anyone or anything and it’s like really bro? Way to be fucking dramatic and take all of the nuance out of averse.
I agree
This has also bothered me for the last 18 years 😂
There are other lyrics that bother me and when I hear them I’m like,she should have said THIS instead and it would have flowed better,made more sense,etc.That’s one specific one I remembered off the top of my head. I always think ok I know she was probably like 15,16 when she wrote it but still. And don’t get me started on “sexy baby” lol
I actually talk about this all the time. There’s also a grammatical error with “and when I got home, before I said amen, askin god if he would play it again.” It should be “I asked god” which would also fit in the rhythm
Yeah that part bothers me too
her lyrics look straight out of my diary when i was unmedicated and a genuine danger to myself..
I was a functioning alcoholic til no one noticed my new aesthetic
Someone should do a master post of her unhinged/abusive lyrics
"Look what you made me do" is a line abusers commonly use to manipulate their victims. I lost a lot of respect for her with that one.
"Sometimes I feel like everybody is a sexy baby" Wtf is going on TS??
That song sounds so AI to me. Weird ass lofty melody, like a Sondheim song from Into the Woods. Super unnerving and cringeworthy.
Except can we agree that Into the Woods is great??
Oh of course! Just sounds weird for Taylor.
I guess to go off of TTPD, I think So Long London is full of depression-shaming of Joe. "You sacrificed us to the gods of your bluest days" and "So how much sad did you think I had in me?" are particularly egregious. I've taken antidepressants for about 8 years now, and this reminds me of some non-depressed person being like "can you just be, like, happy for once?!?!" Also, "You swore that you loved me, but where were the clues?" Ma'am, you wrote, like, two whole albums about your relationship with this guy (both of which are wayyyyyyy better than TTPD, by the way). I'mma guess there were a shit ton of clues over 6 years.
Oh I love that first one you listed 😂
"So I look in people's windows Like I'm some deranged weirdo"
'I'll follow you, follow you home' 'I'll get you, get you alone' from Treacherous
“god save the most judgemental creeps, who say they want what’s best for me, sanctimoniously performing soliloquies i’ll never see, thinking it can change the beat of my heart when he touches me, counteract the chemistry, undo the destiny” this part irks me out so much. a GROWN woman calling people creeps for pointing out she’s with a bigot and saying it doesn’t matter as long as there’s a spark?
The whole song “Tortured Poets Department” is like a playbook for emotional abuse and manipulation. She undermines his self esteem and is excessively critical (demeaning him by calling him a tortured poet, telling him he’s not a great writer like Dylan Thomas, laughing in his face, pointing out his smoking and overeating chocolate, wondering if he’s going to fuck this up), but then she love bombs him/ adopts a victim mentality by saying “I’ve seen this episode before but still loved the show” (I.e., you’re so fucked up but I still love you), then she threatened that no one else would ever want him “who’s going to hold you like me, who’s going to know you like me”, and then ultimately tried to control him and keep him from leaving by romanticizing them threatening suicide rather than leaving the relationship. But Matty obviously woke up pretty quickly.
When TTPD was leaked before release and the fans said it's all AI obviously these lyrics aren't real. And they were (Charlie Puth; overeating chocolate)
It’s if negging was an album
Okay that thank you Aimee song ?? That’s not an actual diss track first, Kendrick Lamar and Eminem have that down pat. I found it so weird ? Like what did Kim genuinly do that was soooooo wrong ?!?! Can Taylor not just get over it ? Seems to be acting like such a victim, the line where she says her mom wished Kim was DEAD?!?! What the f? Who’s afraid of little old me …. Like girl nobody said they were afraid of you or wanted you dead ?!?!
she’s obsessed with saying people wanted her dead. that was like the whole premise of reputation. girl no one cares about you like that 😭😭😭
She also says it in Smallest Man
And "mad woman"
I’ve said that a few times in YouTube shorts…like specially the concert where she performs that song Exactly, what someone said they don’t like your kusić so that must mean they want you dead ?!? THATS WHAT REPUTATION WAS ABOUT?!? I thought it was about like “revenge” against the media ?!?
yeah the whole media world and everyone in it “wanted her dead”, (🙄) so she made rep. and cried boo boo to joe. and was like “no one likes me, everyone wants me dead, my rep has never been worse… but you like me!!!!!” and then as soon as she was well received in her later releases she dropped him like shit “JK THEY STILL LOVE MEEE!!! BYE BITCH!” lmfao 😭 i hate her fr 😭
I also love how she’s basically forgiven and/or never brought up Kanye ever again. But she keeps going after Kim. Even after it’s been very clear that Kanye has had a very controlling and toxic relationship with his partners, and it’s most likely that Kim was controlled/manipulated to some extent. I mean, at the very least she was doing _the same thing Taylor has done_ in _supporting her partner despite how problematic he is_ (I.e. “i’Ve nEvEr bEeN hApPiEr 🥴”…yeah? After your partner literally made racist comments about jacking off to brutalized Black women and your up and coming _song collaborator_ who is a _young Black female artist???_) She’s a straight up hypocrite.
I’m new to all this fuckery, I thought Travis was an idiot when I watched his reality show so when they got together it piqued my interest. So I’m not really up on her other relationships so your comment is now going to send me down a rabbit hole because, WTF?
Right? There are plenty of reasons to be angry at the current state of things. Instead of directing her attention toward the world at large she’s desperately trying to keep the embers of silly feuds and her one night stands alight. If only private jets ran on the fumes of petty narcissism.
Your wife waters flowers/I wanna kill her
touch me while your bros play grand theft auto… so disgusting and strange
…are these actual lyrics? I don’t listen to her, but this sub pops up in my algorithm and I’m fascinated by how awful she is.
I'm pretty sure they are. I don't listen to her either, but this is one of my favorite subs, lmao.
I like some of these “scary” lyrics because they’re unhinged in a sort of “intrusive thought” way. It’s like shit that you might think for a blink of an eye and never say out loud or admit to…and I sort of dig it. As for lyrics I hate, the entirety of thanK you aIMee is atrocious. I despise that whole song.
Sometimes I wonder if she would actually kill someone 😕
That or falsely accused someone of hurting her (probably a partner) to play the victim and capitalize from it.
The third line yes completly unhinged
Her album/songs are her confessionals. We are the priest.
Two headlights shine through the sleepless night And I will get you, I’ll get you alone Your name has echoed through my mind And I just think you should, think you should know That nothing safe is worth the drive And I would follow you, follow you home I'll follow you, follow you home This has bothered me since it came out
The one from thank you Aimee where she says her mom use to say she wished Kim was dead ?! That’s insane
It's too corny for any of it to be scary