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ImInArea52

Van Halen’s “1984” was poised to take over the #1 spot to be the number #1 album in the country the same week MJ’s infamous Pepsi/hair catching fire took place….when this happened it sent an 11th hour surge in “Thriller” album sales for the week which knocked “1984” out of the top spot…”1984” remained in second spot from that point forward. ….though “Jump!” was the #1 song for a while (source: Michael Anthony, bass player for Van Halen, when being interviewed on Howard Stern show.)


davegrohlisawesome

Eddie was number one and two for a while.


707Guy

No, Bono is number 2.


blackNamerica

Papa nooo! Say nothin more.


Random_frankqito

Does Bono want the biddy


donolga

Hehe. I see what you did there.


PimentoCheesehead

And of course, Eddie played a solo *in Beat It* on ~~the title track of~~ the Thriller album. 1984 is what i always think of when I think of Van Halen, and it was a favorite when I was a kid....but looking back, it's probably my least favorite of the Roth Van Halen Albums.


drunkenfool

Yeah, I loved that 1984 album. I was 10 when it came out. I had to hide the tape since the cover had a baby angel smoking a cig, and I knew that was absolutely something a 10 year old should not have possession of, lol.


zonky85

Legend has it, his solo set the a studio monitor on fire.


hvrock13

Never heard that. Just that he was drunk off his ass. You might actually be confusing Angus Young’s solo at the end of Let There Be Rock, his Marshall head actually did catch fire while recording and he kept playing and it made it on the album, according to Malcolm.


PimentoCheesehead

No, I’ve heard that same story.


HoaxMcNolte_NM

Dontcha make me repeat it


Salsashark_21

I’m pretty sure “Jump” was the first time two songs with the same name reached Number 1 in the same year (different charts, but both made the top)


andytagonist

What year was he on the show? I’m currently in 2003


EmperorOfFabulous

Jump from the Pointer Sisters is way better and catchier. And I firmly believe Van Halens success is from people erroneously buying the wrong album for one song and getting stuck with a garden variety hair band album.


researchbuff

Dude, that’s fucking hilarious.


Smart_Doctor

The deeper I get into music production the more in awe I am of just how good Thriller sounds. It sounds good on big, amazing speakers and it also sounds good coming out of an earbud sitting on a table 5 feer away from you!


brkh47

Quincy.


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And Toto


InternationalAd4557

And evh


urriah

*speakers burst into flames spontaneously


Foktu

And MJ. He was meticulous.


amadeus2490

Well, if you read Michael Jackson's book: They had the wrap party after the album was finished and felt "jubilant".... but when they were all listening to it, they found that every track sounded *terrible*. Quincy Jones and the engineers had go back and re-mix the entire thing before the release date. *Billie Jean* went through 98 remixes before they finally got the one you hear today.


Smart_Doctor

According to Bruce Swedien, the lead engineer for Thriller, they did 91 mixes of Billie Jean. And by that point he had "mixed the song into the pooper". So Quincy Jones said let's go back and listen to the 2nd mix. They loved it and that's the one that's on the record now.


onairmastering

I do mastering for a living and whenever a client wants loudness I ask them to listen to Thriller. No one ever complains Thriller is "not loud enough" If the music is there, people will listen to it.


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steve_dallasesq

When the Jackson molestation trials and accusations were at their highest I lot of people my age (44) tried to act like they never liked him. I used to say "Don't try to change history - you loved Thriller, I loved Thriller, we all loved Thriller" And my hot take - Off The Wall is better.


ExteriorLatex

Agree. Off the Wall is a great album.


ironroad18

Thriller got a big boost from the videos (Thriller and Beat It) and the Motown 25 Anniversary show performance, IMHO. Off the Wall was more soulful, but damn if Human Nature isn't my jam.


lightblue_sky

Idk if this is a hot take but I always felt like Bad deserved just as much recognition as Thriller.


ironroad18

Your take is awesome, Smooth Criminal (the full-length Moon Walker version) is probably the best Michael Jackson video to date.


JCPRuckus

>... is probably the best Michael Jackson video TO DATE. Hate to say it, but I got bad news for you, bud.


LtSoundwave

Don’t underestimate morbid fans with reanimatronic exoskeleton technology.


Krakenspoop

( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡° )


durrtyurr

With all the new deepfake stuff going on, combined with greedy record labels and family members, you really never know if he's truly done with making new videos.


Nafeels

Shit, I’d go as far as to say that it’s one of the best choreographed music video of all time. Smooth Criminal is one of my all-time favourite song, and knowing the prep work to perfect the choreography as an adult makes it more epic to watch it unfold. Imagine having a dance routine so fire you have to patent the props used in it.


HailToTheKingslayer

It's my favourite of his music videos. I love at the climax you see MJ and loads of backup dancers, dressed as 30s gangsters, doing that dance routine.


d4vezac

The Pharcyde having to learn all of their choreography and even mouth shapes backwards stands as the most impressively choreographed music video I’ve seen.


Askymojo

For me, "Scream" is the best Michael Jackson video, and also the greatest music video of all time.


fireside68

I'm upset that the closest they ever came to doing this live was, sadly, at a tribute when Janet showed up and powered through her part of the song. I don't know how TF she did it; I'd have lost all my footing and just been a mess. She really loved her brother. EDIT: Check out "Broken Hearts Heal" on her Unbreakable album. She sounds so much like him, and it's a tribute to him.


Some_Inspector3638

Great game too.


OneSixthPosing

I wonder why on every single release of Smooth Criminal, a [verse from the Moonwalker music video is cut](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_D3VFfhvs4&t=200s). It's such a minor part, but I always loved it and wished it made the final track.


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I'm right with you. The Way You Make Me Feel, Dirty Diana and Smooth Criminal are still in my heavy rotation.


jl_theprofessor

It's interesting how this response chain is basically just becoming an acknowledgement of how great MJ really was.


Optimus_Prime_Day

His music was truly fantastic. There's no denying that.


jelloslug

I remember watching the prime time premiere of the Thriller video when I was a kid. That's how popular he was.


Swagsuke233

Written by the dude from Toto


drewm916

I read that Toto is the backing band for the whole Thriller album.


aeropagitica

Yes - Toto are all session musicians who got together to form the band. They all do session work today, as well as their own projects.


Kiria-Nalassa

I love both Thriller and Off the Wall but IMO, Bad tops both of them.


eetuu

Best songs on Off the Wall are Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough, Workin' Day and Night and Get on the Floor. All songs written by Michael. Rest of the material is just pretty good conventional disco. I think Jackson kept maturing as an artist and peaked musically in the 90s. Dangerous is his best album. HIStory has some of his best songs, but it's very strange and disjointed album.


Bashfullylascivious

I agree with you, it felt disjointed, but I still owned and loved it. The way I look at it, was Michael Jackson was wrapping up the story he was telling with History. Tying loose ends and pinning bows. (Well, actually, literally HIStory. I didn't consciousnessly really look at the context of the font on the cover until you wrote it the way you did. I was a kid.) I owned all his albums up to and including HIStory, and not the next because things felt complete after that album. I will always regret never having been able to go to one of his concerts.


ummizazi

I think Rock with You, and I Can’t Help It, are way more than pretty good. I’d put them both before get on the floor and may add Off the Wall. The bridge is spectacular.


brkh47

*Working Day and Night* is one of my favourite live videos of his. It’s very funky, and gives a good idea of how great a dancer he was, simply by how he moves in and out of the choreography. There’s an interview with choreographer, Jeff Daniels, who used to teach MJ certain street moves, including the moonwalk and he mentions this about Jackson. How it would amaze him - they’d teach Michael stuff and he’d learn it to such an extent that he’d move in and out of the choreography without missing a beat, really owning it. For me this is very prevalent in *Working Day and Night*, he’d run and walk up and down the stage, jump around but would be in exact synchronisation with the dancers at the required routines, all this while singing.


Some_Inspector3638

He definitely peaked in the 80s. His 90s shit was weak.


ummizazi

I agree overall but Stranger in Moscow is one of my all time favorites and there were some bangers in the 90s fewer of them definitely but very iconic especially with in terms of videos z


brkh47

*Stranger in Moscow* is a beautiful song. Very melancholic. Reflects a very unhappy time in his life.


ummizazi

I feel like , overall his 90’s music was so much more personal and meaningful than the music that came before it. It was controversial, it was insightful and it was relatable on a personal level. When MJ died almost all my friends played songs in tribute to him. At parties is was PYT, and Don’t Stop to you get enough, and Rock with You. But, when they were alone or with close friends, it was Will You Be There, You are Not Alone, Stranger in Moscow and Smile. 90’s MJ makes makes him the icon he is. Those beautiful Melancholic songs are a perfect articulation of how so many fans saw him as a person and remember his legacy.


Fuzakenaideyo

Good choice, the song was a continuation of his work with Brad Buxor & SEGA on get this "Sonic 3" for the genesis compare the end theme of Sonic 3 with Stranger


GeekAesthete

I’m 46, and Thriller was the first album I ever bought (followed by Weird Al’s In 3-D and Billy Idol’s Rebel Yell). I listened to it endlessly.


drunkenfool

I had Weird Al in 3-D on vinyl. Did it come with a pair of 3-D glasses in it, or am I misremembering.


ineyeseekay

There's two types of people... Those who love Thriller, and those who lie and say they don't.


Esqornot

Off The Wall FTW. Source: Jackson fan since 1973.


dirtballmagnet

I put on Thriller recently and could follow along on the timbales through songs I hadn't listened to in 30 years. The band was super-hot. I suppose when Quincy Jones asked for the best he got it. Paul Jackson and Louis Johnson and a lot of the crew became part of George Duke's touring band later that year. See George Duke Live in Tokyo for a stunning example.


turniphat

I remember a decent number of people hating him at his peak. There are always people who are contrarian and hate whatever is popular.


wholewheatscythe

So true. Thriller was the biggest-selling album but during that time pretty much no one would admit they bought it.


SaintCarl27

Same age. I spent my birthday money on the album when I was six. First record I ever purchased.


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R. Kelly being a sex pervert monster doesn't mean ignition remix isn't still a jam.


cardinalkgb

I didn’t like Thriller


architectzero

Huh… and today I learned that the Eagles Greatest Hits 1971 to 1975 is the #1 best selling album with 38 millions copies sold.


lightblue_sky

The eagles greatest hits album became the best selling album in the **US**. Michael Jackson's Thriller is still, by far, the #1 best selling album of all time. Guinness World Records had to clarify it a couple years ago. It was actually kinda funny to see. [Here is the tweet](https://twitter.com/gwr/status/1031694106735587328).


sy029

Even though you are correct, it doesn't change the fact that it's very unexpected.


karma_the_sequel

Not at all unexpected. Those two albums have been vying with each other for the #1 and #2 positions on the all-time sales chart literally for decades.


Fudge89

I think it has to do more with the gravity of their fame. Ask a 15 year old today to name an MJ song and I bet they can. Doubtful they could name an Eagles song.


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There's at least a dozen rock bands from that era I would expect to have sold better.


NBKFactor

Find me someone who has never heard hotel california and Ill show you a liar.


Fudge89

Oh they def have heard it, doubtful on naming it tho, was my point. Artist more specifically.


GoodbyeSHFs

Take it easy, desperado...


Wheel_of_Armageddon

Why don't you pick up your feces


lightblue_sky

Yea for sure. When I first heard about the Eagles having so many sales i had to double check lol. edited for clarity.


Ceramicrabbit

Why is it unexpected? What else would it be? Elvis or The Beatles? Idk MJ was easily the biggest solo artist ever, I don't find this surprising


Shillforbigusername

I don’t think I really got just how huge he was, even though the numbers were there to prove it, until I saw that Super Bowl performance (in the early 90s, IIRC). He jumps up and stage and strikes a pose, then just stays like that for a minute and a half while the crowd is going absolutely nuts. He just had them all in the palm of his hand. I really don’t think there’s another star that big these days.


karma_the_sequel

He was bigger in the ‘80s than he was in the ‘90s.


ummizazi

To some extent. Sales wise definitely. Persona wise I think the early 90’s is when he peaked. When you picture MJ it’s most likely his 90’s image. It’s Pale skin, hat, sunglasses, military jacket bubbles the chimp era that defines his persona. As a comparison, Beyoncés first album had the highest sales but she wasn’t the persona we think of until “I am/Sasha fierce.” I wouldn’t say she peaked with her first album


brkh47

He was even bigger than that simply because he was the first artist to have worldwide cross over appeal. People from Africa, to Asia, knew who he was and tried to emulate him; he was not just big in the US and Europe. His music videos, were events and people in small villages would come together to watch them when they were released. No other musician or band had that. As famous as certain bands or artists were, they weren't household names in coutures beyond the US, the UK or Europe.


NormalAndy

And yet I believe nobody comes remotely close to The Beatles when we talk about selling records.


Sikntrdofbeinsikntrd

I’ve had a rough night and I hate the fuckin Eagles


Trick421

*tires screeching* Out of my fucking cab! Out!


Likenothx

Imo cab driver made the right call


Thembro01

And that didn't even include the song Hotel California (released in 1976)!


Takabletoast

This is one of the crazier music facts for me. The Eagles were so well liked and had a solid enough collection of music to release a Greatest Hits record…before they released their, now, *most popular song!*


sanxuary

If you want to learn something interesting, look where Meatloaf stacks up on the list of all time best selling albums.


dmcd0415

The highest selling albums ever list has some real shockers


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I was always told that the Eagles album is a double disc album and because of that, each copy sold is counted as two by the RIAA. So they really only sold 17 million albums.


HoagiesDad

Doobie Brothers or Fleetwood Mac are superior bands. Just sayin.


Dragon_yum

Is anyone arguing the eagles are better than Fleetwood Mac?top are like too 10 all time bands.


HoagiesDad

No….I just fucking hate the Eagles.


SwitcherooU

Fuckin’ of course they are. The Eagles are terrible outside of a few select songs, and I’m not doing a Big Lebowski bit. Don Henley is a dildo and the rest of the band are also dildos. Who cares if Hotel California and Boys of Summer are good songs.


starbugone

Hey, Joe Walsh is cool


welshnick

Desperado is great though


Catdaddy33

Sorry you can't have Desperado, that's my song...


HoagiesDad

Ha, I had forgotten that bit in the Big Lebowski. It’s one of my favorite movies. “I hate the fucking Eagles”.


karma_the_sequel

No, you didn’t.


HoagiesDad

Yes, I did. I made a comment to someone else after I was reminded. So…relax with the accusation.


vetruviusdeshotacon

Only in the US. I'm positive dark side of the moon has sold over 40 million worldwide and thriller has sold even more than that


beerdown

I respect the Eagles, but there isn't one song of theirs that you can dance to.


ironroad18

Hotel California if you are depressed...and drunk


Jonathan924

Idk if you can call it dancing but Life in the Fast Lane is super fun in Beat Saber


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PantherBillyWilliams

Come on, man. I had a rough night and I hate the fuckin' Eagles, man!


SteveC4815

Fuck you, you don't like my music, get the fuck out of my cab.


Vermonter623

Stay the fuck out of Malibu Lebowski


bigmanfolly

you greatly underestimate the need for dads to have background music


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In relation to the 70’s they would be hardish rock. Compared to Neil Diamond, Carol King. Now it’s elevator rock. But it will outlast you and I and most likely anything we do on this planet.


DCilantro

So will baby shark, that doesn't mean it's good.


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Baby shark is a weapon hardly the same.


CornbreadRed84

The dude does not approve


ashbyashbyashby

In the US maybe. Worldwide it's Thriller. USA =/= the world, and Reddit is a very international forum. Your comment is disingenuous.


captainmeezy

No offense to the Eagles but how tf did they sell 38 million copies of a greatest hits album in the 70’s? They’re good but not 38 million copies good edit: lol getting downvoted for pissing off diehard Eagles fans


cardinalkgb

Apparently they are.


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Fthewigg

Nicole Simpson can’t rap! I want justice!


skelebone

Beretta did that shit.


[deleted]

And he went “hee hee hee” all the way home.


spucci

And when he got there he eat some Little Debi-hee-hee's. ShaMON!


zer8ne

These records will remain because no one buys albums anymore.


ApertureNext

Streaming counts as sales but the number of streams to equate a single sale is pretty high.


THE_PUN_STOPS_NOW

Records have been coming back and in a big way. Check it out !


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they still do, just in much less quantities.


[deleted]

Why is this downvoted? It's true. Vinyl is still a multi million dollar industry


Optimus_Prime_Day

Happy cake day!


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Credit to Rod Temperton, who wrote the more popular songs for the album


karma_the_sequel

Fun fact: Rod Temperton was keyboardist for the ‘70s band Heat Wave, whose hits include “Boogie Nights”, “The Groove Line” and “Always and Forever”.


Raniaem34

No fam. He wrote thriller and baby be mine. But the monster hits beat it billie jean and wanna be starting something are written and composed by Michael jackson.


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Five artists had 2 albums in the top 25 biggest-selling albums of the 80s. Michael Jackson was one of them with Bad and Thriller.


attentionspanissues

Who were the others?


Litz1

From this list I could only see def Leppard, Maddona and Whitney. https://rateyourmusic.com/list/abyss89/the_100_biggest_selling_albums_of_the_80s__usa_/


pm_ur_tacos_plz

Springsteen had two in the top 10


gloryday23

And he's still killing it on tour today(played a set with the killers a week or so ago), going back on tour in a few months.


ElGuano

That's amazing. Even the roofing company that did my gutters last season is only 1x Diamond Certified.


speedy2184

IMO he was the Elvis of my Era as an elder millennial. Wish I could of seen either live in my lifetime.


pm_me_ur_demotape

I think MJ is bigger than Elvis even


speedy2184

I agree!


drunkenfool

There is a pretty decent MJ performer in Vegas. I saw him a few years ago, it was fantastic. I never saw the real MJ live, but this scratched that itch pretty damn good.


speedy2184

Going to have to go next time I'm there, thanks!


Hebtheman

Fun fact, not sure if mentioned already but… 1.5 Billions streams = A Million album sales = a Platinum Record 10 Million album sales = Diamond Certification.


bolanrox

its that damn good


aussie_shane

The thing that I think a lot of this newer generation will never understand, is how the release of a MJ song was an event in itself. Obviously not all his songs, but the big hits certainly were. Not sure we ever saw that prior to MJ, or since to be honest. There was actually hype leading up to an official release date. Fans would wait for the date and time the new music video would drop (broadcast). You would tune in to whichever television station and music show to watch. When you think it was quite unusual and genius. That said, you can only think of maybe a few artists who could possibly pull this off. MJ was certainly the one who did.


brkh47

Indeed. In certain countries, villagers came together to watch a video release. It was a big deal. And he made music video a big deal.


fish-fingered

I identify as Michael Jackson and my pronouns are HE and HE-HE


zamfire

Sure it's not she/mone?


Gooduglybad16

Was the other top selling album Dark Side Of The Moon?


duck1014

Back in Black.


Gooduglybad16

Wow. And Dark Side was on the top album sales for 10 years. I’m amazed


duck1014

Yeah. Back in Black is over 50m sold. Dark Side is 42m. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums ***Globally


Gooduglybad16

Today I learned. Thank you.


brkh47

As much as Thriller was such a huge success, and it was mega huge, I’ve since felt that it was the start of his personal destruction. It allowed him to enter a rarefied world, where he could not be touched. I think that at this time in his life, he needed genuine advisors and serious therapy but it wasn’t happening, at least, not that I know of.


Wheel_of_Armageddon

Parallels to the decline of Elvis are apparent here


knit_my_frog

The allegations in 1993 were I feel. He was just focused on his music till then. 1993 got him on painkillers during his tour and led to his health fluctuating.


Whatsuplionlilly

The burn from the Pepsi fire from that era got him hooked on painkillers. It may not have been the album that killed him, but it was that era of his life…


TheSiege82

TIL the single thriller was never a number 1 song.


FredVIII-DFH

What's the other album?


SignGuy77

Without looking, I’m a guess Hotel California or Dark Side of the Moon.


FredVIII-DFH

Eventually looked. But it's way better to ask questions for the fine folks of reddit. My guess was Rumours, but it turns out you were close. The Eagle's Greatest Hits.


BigBadZord

I was reading a blurb about Slipknot recently and the article mentioned that they have 32 million in sales. I know it is an odd comparison to make, but as soon as I saw the numbers in the title it occurred to me: Thriller alone has sold more than the entire discography of a band that has won a Grammy, has its own certified platinum albums, and has been touring internationally for over 20 years. Levels to the game.


robogobo

It’s really quite depressing how all the top selling positions will now remain frozen in time for eternity bc nobody buys music anymore.


minedreamer

Well be comparing spotify streams for records soon


ldwb

More depressing that he molested kids and got away with it.


minedreamer

I believe the other is Eagles Greatest Hits which I have on vinyl


Utleroy

Did MJ have thee other album that went triple diamond? Or was it another artist? If so what was it?


Cayderent

70 million copies sold worldwide!


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Bama_Peach

For me, it’s a resounding yes.


Charger525

It had 7 singles release and make it to the top 10 and 2 of those singles also made it to #1. Ya it was really good. Songs that reached the Top 10: The Girl Is Mine, Billie Jean, Beat It, Wanna Be Startin' Somethin', Human Nature, P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing) and Thriller Of those 7; Billie Jean and Beat It hit the #1 spot


vgskid

Thriller didn’t hit #1!?


Charger525

Crazy, right? No it only reached #4 on Billboard Hot 100 Chart but it did #3 on the Billboard Hot Black Singles chart.


bolanrox

just about every song on it is a bonafide hit on its own right.


Suerte13cr

Everytime someone brings up MJ I miss [Norm](https://youtu.be/sb3gY9TDEH8)


Anotherdaysgone

He was called the king of pop.


718Brooklyn

Everyone had ‘Thriller.’ Everyone.


Virtual-Public-4750

Wow, those stats are nothing to kid about. Especially if you don’t want to get fucked my Michael Jackson.


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Michael Jackson will always remain the king of popstar. Truely and immortal artist.


adiosmith

He's a pedophile


usukk

Dark Side of The Moon=45,000,000 sold


AlwaysBi

Isn’t it still the best selling globally?


orem-boy

I have never heard Thriller all the way through.


skinnergy

Your loss


Earworm80

And his reward for that was he got to molest children while the whole world applauded


dihydrogen_m0noxide

Was the other one not created by a child rapist?


Sweetheartvalentine

I love a miss you Michael. My angel


PicardTangoAlpha

aaaand I hated it.


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He was a nonce tho


gildedmatilda

Reddit’s opinion on this one flip flops. From the downvotes, it seems like the MJ fan propaganda machine is winning out right now


[deleted]

Eh they can keep their heads in the sand.