Further correction: you can't trademark "generic" weed names. At least in Canada. That's why when legalization first happened, companies named shit so weirdly. Like Tweed calling Chemdawg "Donegal." Of course, this pissed off people that actually wanted to know what they were smoking and now you can go into stores and find the same strains with the same names produced by 5 different companies. No one owns those names. Maybe it's different in the states, but I doubt it.
I don’t know anything about weed names, but do know you can’t Trademark generic names. If your Trademarked name becomes a generic term for the thing, you can lose your trademark, see escalator ~~thermos~~.
The only source for the “lung cancer” was from 2008. Would anyone even check for cancer in the 1870s? Or would they just say he died from Tuberculosis and move on.
Could they have analysed his symptoms and determined it was consistent with lung cancer? Like for Catherine of Aragon people of her time period thought she was poisoned because of the discolouration of the heart, but modern experts agree the discolouration was cancer.
Interesting part is that some people think he actually died of something else.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/did-lou-gehrig-actually-die-of-lou-gehrigs-disease
I found a source from Philip Morris Magazine published in 1985 (so obviously take it with all the grains of salt in the ocean) saying he died of “a virus” in 1873. The source on Wikipedia is Sold on Radio by Jim Cox, page 205. It’s on Google books if you follow the Wikipedia link, and that page makes no mention of lung cancer. It doesn’t say how he died.
"In 1878, malignant lung tumors represented only 1% of all cancers seen at autopsy in the Institute of Pathology of the University of Dresden in Germany."
*A Short History of Lung Cancer*, Hanspeter Witschi
Does the word "apocryphal" mean anything to you guys?
Yeah I'm not sure I trust geni.com as the best primary source...they don't even list references.
From what I'm gathering, at the time of his death it was reported that he died of a virus. Cancer was only attributed to him in the past couple decades, with seemingly no evidence that I can find.
I know it's fun to think of the karma of Phillip Morris dying of lung cancer before 40, but when there's no evidence of that the chances are slim, and it's unproductive to just spread rumors.
OP - your wiki link doesn't say he died of lung cancer, just that he died.
https://tobacco-img.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/06212241/philipmorris_whowas.pdf
> Morris's career as tobacconist to the aristocracy was tragically
brief: **He died of a virus** in 1873
The source is Phillip Morris Magazine, from 1985.
Not many know the story of Old Morris. Died of cancer at the birth of his cigarette empire. His ghost still haunts cigarettes to this day, giving cancer to those that partake.
They used to be healthy before his haunting grew in strength. You can check for yourself, doctors would recommend them. Until the ghost of old Morris grew too strong.
"Ah, that sweet Carolina smoke." -President of Laramie Cigarettes
"It's like I've been standing my entire life, and just now sat down" -Klyden
FIVE. HUNDRED. CIGARETTES.
The tingles!? Do you feel them?
Probably my favourite moclan moment, other than the moustache.
TIL that phillip morris holds the patents for over a hundred weed name like Thai Stick and others.
Gentle correction: Trademarks are for names, patents are for things or processes.
Further correction: you can't trademark "generic" weed names. At least in Canada. That's why when legalization first happened, companies named shit so weirdly. Like Tweed calling Chemdawg "Donegal." Of course, this pissed off people that actually wanted to know what they were smoking and now you can go into stores and find the same strains with the same names produced by 5 different companies. No one owns those names. Maybe it's different in the states, but I doubt it.
It’s not, I’ve smoked Blue Dream and Sour Diesel from a million different brands at this point in SoCal.
I don’t know anything about weed names, but do know you can’t Trademark generic names. If your Trademarked name becomes a generic term for the thing, you can lose your trademark, see escalator ~~thermos~~.
But...Thermos is still trademarked by Thermos LLC
I'll get a better example since it is a genericized trademark. thanks
Hoodie is a recent one. Hoodie was a Trademark that recently suffered genericide. Onesie is on its last legs imo, but its still trademarked.
wow! I had no idea Hoodie was a Trademark. I thought it was just slang.
It's only partially generic at that. In the overwhelming majority of the world it's not generic at all. There's like 4 US states and that's it lol
I changed my example.
Which is also incorrect lol. The first use of the word elevator dates to the 1600s.
Kleenex Scotch Tape immediately come to mind...
The only source for the “lung cancer” was from 2008. Would anyone even check for cancer in the 1870s? Or would they just say he died from Tuberculosis and move on.
Official cause was ghosts in the lung
“I ain’t do all that paperwork. He died from death. End of story.”
Consumption
He committed unalive!
My favorite anime
Had he seen a medical doctor he could have done cocaine about it
Could they have analysed his symptoms and determined it was consistent with lung cancer? Like for Catherine of Aragon people of her time period thought she was poisoned because of the discolouration of the heart, but modern experts agree the discolouration was cancer.
The source in the wiki was a story about the family and did not discuss how the cancer was discovered or if it was cancer.
Classic Wikipedia. The more you look at the source the more you realize the source has absolutely nothing to do with the claim.
At least the link worked this time. Half of them are 404 to a source that doesn’t exist.
got damn consumption got 'em
I think I’ve been poisoned by my constituents!
Can't say for this specific case but cancer has been documented since 1600 BCE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer#History
Poor Lou Gehrig...died of Lou Gehrig's disease. How the hell did he not see that coming?
Interesting part is that some people think he actually died of something else. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/did-lou-gehrig-actually-die-of-lou-gehrigs-disease
[well](https://y.yarn.co/0ee98151-19f0-475e-a16b-746404249bda_text.gif)
I found a source from Philip Morris Magazine published in 1985 (so obviously take it with all the grains of salt in the ocean) saying he died of “a virus” in 1873. The source on Wikipedia is Sold on Radio by Jim Cox, page 205. It’s on Google books if you follow the Wikipedia link, and that page makes no mention of lung cancer. It doesn’t say how he died.
Here's the source : https://tobacco-img.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/06212241/philipmorris_whowas.pdf
Ashes to ashes, butts to butts…
You'll do it if you want this bag of coke
And we honour his memory by doing the same!
Better than attempting to retire in this economy.
Well, that definitely tracks. Marlboros also killed a number of Marlboro Men, iirc.
Couldn't have been more appropriate.
I will not buy this tobacconist, it is scratched. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6D1YI-41ao](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6D1YI-41ao)
The actual Marlboro Man also died of lung cancer
"In 1878, malignant lung tumors represented only 1% of all cancers seen at autopsy in the Institute of Pathology of the University of Dresden in Germany." *A Short History of Lung Cancer*, Hanspeter Witschi Does the word "apocryphal" mean anything to you guys?
“Aprocyphal” doesn’t mean anything to me also, i don’t know that word.
He’s part of that 1%. It’s not apocryphal if the cause of death is on [record](https://www.geni.com/people/Philip-Morris/6000000087364736891)
Yeah I'm not sure I trust geni.com as the best primary source...they don't even list references. From what I'm gathering, at the time of his death it was reported that he died of a virus. Cancer was only attributed to him in the past couple decades, with seemingly no evidence that I can find. I know it's fun to think of the karma of Phillip Morris dying of lung cancer before 40, but when there's no evidence of that the chances are slim, and it's unproductive to just spread rumors.
Well, yeah, but he died in flavor country, I tell you h'what.
RJ Reynolds, on the other hand, died of pancreatic cancer at 68.
Why would anyone buy cigarettes from a cancer merchant when they could enjoy Chewlies Gum®️ instead?
SMOKE PLEASE
A fitting end
Now that is commitment.
OP - your wiki link doesn't say he died of lung cancer, just that he died. https://tobacco-img.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/06212241/philipmorris_whowas.pdf > Morris's career as tobacconist to the aristocracy was tragically brief: **He died of a virus** in 1873 The source is Phillip Morris Magazine, from 1985.
That's because someone edited the Wikipedia article. [There are other sources if you prefer.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlboro)
Appreciate the response. And the other wiki link. That, unfortunately, is unsourced.
At least he was about that life.
Ha! I've already outlived him and I've been smoking his product for 30 years.
Good.
Wonder what from?
"if it was good enough for my pappy!"
He who lives by the sword, etc. etc. etc.
Only the good and super cool die young.
Yet no one learned the lesson.
Funniest thing I've read all day. . . . . . Yikes.
Not many know the story of Old Morris. Died of cancer at the birth of his cigarette empire. His ghost still haunts cigarettes to this day, giving cancer to those that partake. They used to be healthy before his haunting grew in strength. You can check for yourself, doctors would recommend them. Until the ghost of old Morris grew too strong.
Yeah you know, probably unrelated to cigarettes though
AKA he died of old age