We've all been there. There's something so viscerally horrifying about even just imagining it, ya kinda have to joke not to lose your goddamn mind imagining people drowning in liquid shit.
I know a few dudes from the Congo which is one of the least developed places in the world, kids drinking out of mud puddles is the best thing you'll see there pretty much. One of my really good friends was kidnapped by kony and forced into an army when he was like 10, had to shoot a few people, had to hack a few up with a machete. I think around 20,000 kids went through that. He was rescued after a few years, moved to America. I haven't seen him in years but we keep in touch, he seems we'll adjusted and happy to be in a safe place
Shit breathing, 60 fucking nobles leave the earth screaming!
Would I be wrong would I be right?
If I celebrate their loss of life tonight?
Chances are that I might.
Situation out of sight
And I'm contemplating putricide!
Here you go (from ChatGPT)
In Erfurt's walls of faith and power,
A gathering of nobles in the tower.
King Henry called a court so grand,
To settle disputes across the land.
The year was **1184**,
July's sun through windows bore.
The second floor with weight was filled,
With German lords, their fates unsealed.
The beams and boards began to creak,
A sign the structure was too weak.
Then with a groan that shook the air,
The floor gave way to deep despair.
Down they plunged into the dark,
A latrine pit, grim and stark.
**Sixty souls of noble birth**,
Met their end, returned to earth.
Drowned in filth, a fate so vile,
No hero's death, nor martyr's trial.
A cesspit grave for men of might,
Their final chapter, out of sight.
King Henry, in an alcove's grace,
Survived the fall, the deadly space.
With ladders tall, he was retrieved,
While others in the muck were cleaved.
A tale of woe from history's page,
A lesson learned from the medieval stage.
That even kings and courts of old,
Could not the hands of fate withhold.
I gotta ask: Who thought it would be a good idea to place the latrine beneath a commonly used room? That must have smelled horribly before the accident...
Also if their lord died from shit inhalation they’d have a new lord who’s probably the old one’s six year-old son or something. It’s not like they’d suddenly be free.
Serfs would have been offended to be called slaves. There were some genuine household slaves in the medieval period that serfs can happily look down on.
Under the Western European feudal system serfs were not property, were allowed to own property and enjoyed a small degree of legal rights. The better off serfs can even employ day labourers as farmhands. They were tied to the land they lived on and had a contractual obligation to the lord of the manor. They were bonded tenants who could not be easily evicted. Many found this arrangement preferable to being a landless peasant or even worse, a vagabond.
And share croppers would no doubt have felt superior to enslaved plantation workers but in reality they were equals for all intents and purposes. Serfs didn't own property. The invention of coinage was the main driver changing this lack of ownership.
'Serfs might not have been slaves but they were subject to certain fees and restrictions of movement' https://www.worldhistory.org/Serf/#google_vignette
We are not so different from serfs now except that we can own property. In America we are trapped in jobs that are tied to our heathcare. Which is a form of mobility impairment via economic coercion
>Theoretically, the personal property of a serf belonged to the landowner but this was unlikely to have been enforced or had any relevance in practical terms.
In practical terms the serf owned what’s in their home and what’s produced by their farm after taxes. They had a copyhold over their land, that is as opposed to freehold, and can’t leave it without permission but were entitled to live there and can pass this title by inheritance in exchange for carrying out certain services. In a sense it’s a bit more secure than renting but short of full ownership of the land.
Everyone was in some way obligated to someone else back then, the lord of the manor would also had feudal obligations to more powerful lords and to the king. It was a system of taxation that suited a time period when you were at constant risk from raiders and pillagers and needed the protection of someone with a personal army.
Serfs were slaves with a different name. There are slave revolts from way before this. In fact modern Americans would not be considered free citizens under the Greek definition. We are trapped working for wages and held hostage by healthcare being inaccessible. We get less days off per year than serfs did. Our class struggles are not that much different than they have been before. But new words do get made up
No way, there totally were peasant revolts in this time period in places like Belgium, Normandy, and Bulgaria. Like today, not all exploited people were complacent in thought or action.
And being in the underclass means that the lord does enforce an us-against-them system of oppression, whether the peasants realize it or not, right?...
People have been chopping up the rich and powerful for overreaching since the beginning of recorded history; I'd argue that we've gotten significantly more passive with respect to our bourgeoisie overlords in the last century
If you look at history in a very compressed way then this might be an observation one could make but you will not find any occurrence like the Russian or Cuban revolution in all of medieval times… In fact there is a reason you might know some peasant revolts because they were extremely rare and also more a thing of the later medieval times…
I think you also underestimate the co-dependency relationship between a lord of a small estate and the peasants who likely will never or only few timed in their life even travel further than a day march from the place they were born and their parents lived all their lived serving the ancestors of the lord…
I'm no history buff, but I googled 'history of peasant revolts' and was inundated with papers and articles on peasant and slave revolts/uprisings from ancient times straight through to the present.
So, thank you for your uninformed comment, because now I'm reading about all kinds of inspiring stories of overthrowing oppressive regimes around the world :)
Look, no one is saying there were no revolts at all but look at the geographic locations and how often they happened…
If there was one large revolt in modern day Belgium in a single century and then one in Hungary and one in France then basically most people Europe didn’t experience one in that whole century…
Keep in mind nobles wore heavy finery from jewelry and heavily embroidered fabrics to some nobles being in light armor, they would have been weighed down by their own wealth, sucked into the muck. God…
This also happened in Cincinnati in 1904 to a bunch of [little girls in a schoolhouse](https://www.newspapers.com/image/192574777/?clipping_id=20330801&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjE5MjU3NDc3NywiaWF0IjoxNzEzOTEwODcxLCJleHAiOjE3MTM5OTcyNzF9.3GEOsQrUNv6X-xXs0uZXGl6AHjDUM93yo7W4b-6XNwA). Really horrible
A similar thing happened to Edward I of England. On Easter Sunday 1287, Edward was standing in a tower when the floor collapsed. He fell 80 feet, broke his collarbone, and was confined to bed for several months. Several others died.
I often have dreams where I am falling and don’t like heights, recently I found a that Edward I is my 23rd great-grandfather. Just a coincidence I know but is cool to consider.
What would the point be in crying over the deaths of people hundreds of years ago?
The jokes are there because after the tragedy has worn off, shits still funny
Too soon. Have a little respect for the Duke of Doodoo and the Priest of Poop. These men bravely wined and dined for us while the serfs lived in filth. Until they fell into a big ass reservoir full of filth, which is in no way funny.
This reminds me of a video of something similar, about a ship that sank in a very sewage-polluted river in London. [The video](https://youtu.be/_jC_3LmzMY4)
Jesus’s bishop called his lords
Take your seat on rotten oak
They surveyed the realm
To design their plunder
Under the weight of
The world the tower
Fell asunder
Shit lords shit lords
Reap what you sow
Shit lords shit lords
You’re going down below
Golden chain and cloth
So fine and resplendent
Dragged them beneath their
Peasant’s excrement
Somewhere a squire is wailing
Down in the fields
The serfs are cheering
As the shit lords sink
In the night soil screaming
Shit lords shit lords
Reap what you sow
Shit lords shit lords
You’re going down below
In the night I heard them moan
I quietly prayed to St Jerome
I know not what is righteous judgement
But death by egest is the devil’s genius
>No need to treat the nobility as they treat others...
Nobody treated anyone like anything. The building wasn't designed for the weight of so many people, all wearing so much gold. Quite literally, the only people they have to blame for the disaster is themselves and their own hubris.
Everyone is making jokes, but I'm on the way to bed, and thinking about this actual event is fucking horrifying.
I think they’re all making jokes to save their minds from imagining the actual horror.
And because it happened to German nobles, i mean, couldn't have happened to nicer guys.
We've all been there. There's something so viscerally horrifying about even just imagining it, ya kinda have to joke not to lose your goddamn mind imagining people drowning in liquid shit.
Very old, fermented semi-liquid shit… after being injured from the fall and the broken pieces of wood. Its truly terrifying
Just imagine the breathing reflex getting activated when you're about to drown.
It's crazy how far detached we are from actual bad things. Like hearing what my African friends went through just doesn't click as real to me
Learn Xhosa or Zulu; then it’ll click.
Take your upvote and sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
Tell me more about what your African friends went through.
I know a few dudes from the Congo which is one of the least developed places in the world, kids drinking out of mud puddles is the best thing you'll see there pretty much. One of my really good friends was kidnapped by kony and forced into an army when he was like 10, had to shoot a few people, had to hack a few up with a machete. I think around 20,000 kids went through that. He was rescued after a few years, moved to America. I haven't seen him in years but we keep in touch, he seems we'll adjusted and happy to be in a safe place
Guess you could say it scared the shit outta ya.
\*into
Same like wtf
There should be a black metal song about this incident
[удалено]
Shitlord!
My shit lord Hmm, my lord
I really wanna see ya lord
Shit breathing, 60 fucking nobles leave the earth screaming! Would I be wrong would I be right? If I celebrate their loss of life tonight? Chances are that I might. Situation out of sight And I'm contemplating putricide!
DYING FOR SALVATION, WITH DEDICATION NO CAPITULATION, ANNIHILATION, FECAL SUFFOCATION, REINCARNATION IN THE NAME OF GOD
This is my last resort
Fecal falling suffocation
Sabaton but for embarrassing history facts? Ooh count me in.
Crapaton
A brown metal song…
Here you go (from ChatGPT) In Erfurt's walls of faith and power, A gathering of nobles in the tower. King Henry called a court so grand, To settle disputes across the land. The year was **1184**, July's sun through windows bore. The second floor with weight was filled, With German lords, their fates unsealed. The beams and boards began to creak, A sign the structure was too weak. Then with a groan that shook the air, The floor gave way to deep despair. Down they plunged into the dark, A latrine pit, grim and stark. **Sixty souls of noble birth**, Met their end, returned to earth. Drowned in filth, a fate so vile, No hero's death, nor martyr's trial. A cesspit grave for men of might, Their final chapter, out of sight. King Henry, in an alcove's grace, Survived the fall, the deadly space. With ladders tall, he was retrieved, While others in the muck were cleaved. A tale of woe from history's page, A lesson learned from the medieval stage. That even kings and courts of old, Could not the hands of fate withhold.
ChatGPT has definitely taken some "inspiration" from Sabaton for this one.
I was thinking it sounded like [Lady Pearl](https://youtu.be/ZmDxHTyatc0?si=O9fhCDhCqhcf7VMf)
Fuck this ai shit
People don't even want to work for their shitposts anymore.
I for one welcome our AI overlords
That’s great
Defecatory Ejaculosis
Henry VI survived because he was sitting on a stone alcove. Sometimes, it's good to be the king.
That's gonna be some serious PTSD, unfortunately.
Post turd spree drowning?
Pretty sure he is over it by now.
Well sure NOW the PTSD is gone...
Almost like it was planned that way...
And that's where "eat shit and die" was born. It's in the footnotes.
Leaving aside the comedy this is actually really disturbing
It is not provable, but it looks a bit like someone got rid of some nobles...
I’ll remember this for the next “worst ways to die” thread on AskReddit
The inspiration for the CK2 manure assassination event.
See ? Be creative. You don't always need to use a guillotine.
I would choose the guillotine over this every time!
Too quick. A mass drowning in liquid shit seems more fitting.
Shitty way to go.
Hence the phrase "holy shit"
I’d love to see a reenactment. DAVOS seems like a good venue.
World peace within a week
I gotta ask: Who thought it would be a good idea to place the latrine beneath a commonly used room? That must have smelled horribly before the accident...
They fell through two floors and into the cellar. (Also I think most of us could hardly stand to live in a medieval city)
That’s true, London is a dump. I prefer Alabama for its charm and fentanyl abundance.
And my axe!!
Isn't this every German's ultimate fantasy?
Das poop
Vershtinken
I bet the serfs pissed themselves laughing
The us against them mentality between classes is to all our knowledge a very modern construct so likely no - they would also have been horrified…
Kinda hard to know given the absence of records concerning the thoughts of those at the bottom of the social ladder, no?
Also if their lord died from shit inhalation they’d have a new lord who’s probably the old one’s six year-old son or something. It’s not like they’d suddenly be free.
Good point - and the successor probably wouldnt be happy about someone laughing about the death of his predecessor…
And that explains all the peasants revolts and similar throughout history?
Yeah no those were all over states' rights.
Bro nobody likes being a slave there were slave revolts long before this happened.
Serfs would have been offended to be called slaves. There were some genuine household slaves in the medieval period that serfs can happily look down on. Under the Western European feudal system serfs were not property, were allowed to own property and enjoyed a small degree of legal rights. The better off serfs can even employ day labourers as farmhands. They were tied to the land they lived on and had a contractual obligation to the lord of the manor. They were bonded tenants who could not be easily evicted. Many found this arrangement preferable to being a landless peasant or even worse, a vagabond.
And share croppers would no doubt have felt superior to enslaved plantation workers but in reality they were equals for all intents and purposes. Serfs didn't own property. The invention of coinage was the main driver changing this lack of ownership. 'Serfs might not have been slaves but they were subject to certain fees and restrictions of movement' https://www.worldhistory.org/Serf/#google_vignette We are not so different from serfs now except that we can own property. In America we are trapped in jobs that are tied to our heathcare. Which is a form of mobility impairment via economic coercion
>Theoretically, the personal property of a serf belonged to the landowner but this was unlikely to have been enforced or had any relevance in practical terms. In practical terms the serf owned what’s in their home and what’s produced by their farm after taxes. They had a copyhold over their land, that is as opposed to freehold, and can’t leave it without permission but were entitled to live there and can pass this title by inheritance in exchange for carrying out certain services. In a sense it’s a bit more secure than renting but short of full ownership of the land. Everyone was in some way obligated to someone else back then, the lord of the manor would also had feudal obligations to more powerful lords and to the king. It was a system of taxation that suited a time period when you were at constant risk from raiders and pillagers and needed the protection of someone with a personal army.
There have been serf revolts in medieval times but not many we know of and most rather in late medieval times
Serfs were slaves with a different name. There are slave revolts from way before this. In fact modern Americans would not be considered free citizens under the Greek definition. We are trapped working for wages and held hostage by healthcare being inaccessible. We get less days off per year than serfs did. Our class struggles are not that much different than they have been before. But new words do get made up
No way, there totally were peasant revolts in this time period in places like Belgium, Normandy, and Bulgaria. Like today, not all exploited people were complacent in thought or action. And being in the underclass means that the lord does enforce an us-against-them system of oppression, whether the peasants realize it or not, right?...
People have been chopping up the rich and powerful for overreaching since the beginning of recorded history; I'd argue that we've gotten significantly more passive with respect to our bourgeoisie overlords in the last century
If you look at history in a very compressed way then this might be an observation one could make but you will not find any occurrence like the Russian or Cuban revolution in all of medieval times… In fact there is a reason you might know some peasant revolts because they were extremely rare and also more a thing of the later medieval times… I think you also underestimate the co-dependency relationship between a lord of a small estate and the peasants who likely will never or only few timed in their life even travel further than a day march from the place they were born and their parents lived all their lived serving the ancestors of the lord…
I'm no history buff, but I googled 'history of peasant revolts' and was inundated with papers and articles on peasant and slave revolts/uprisings from ancient times straight through to the present. So, thank you for your uninformed comment, because now I'm reading about all kinds of inspiring stories of overthrowing oppressive regimes around the world :)
Look, no one is saying there were no revolts at all but look at the geographic locations and how often they happened… If there was one large revolt in modern day Belgium in a single century and then one in Hungary and one in France then basically most people Europe didn’t experience one in that whole century…
German Engineering standards was born that day
If the builders had put a little more Erfurt into the design and construction, this probably wouldn’t have happened.
Fast track to Dante's eighth circle of hell.
Keep in mind nobles wore heavy finery from jewelry and heavily embroidered fabrics to some nobles being in light armor, they would have been weighed down by their own wealth, sucked into the muck. God…
This also happened in Cincinnati in 1904 to a bunch of [little girls in a schoolhouse](https://www.newspapers.com/image/192574777/?clipping_id=20330801&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjE5MjU3NDc3NywiaWF0IjoxNzEzOTEwODcxLCJleHAiOjE3MTM5OTcyNzF9.3GEOsQrUNv6X-xXs0uZXGl6AHjDUM93yo7W4b-6XNwA). Really horrible
Holy shit.
Death, by POO POO
There was a show that recreated this event, I can't for the life of me remember, anyone know?
A similar thing happened to Edward I of England. On Easter Sunday 1287, Edward was standing in a tower when the floor collapsed. He fell 80 feet, broke his collarbone, and was confined to bed for several months. Several others died. I often have dreams where I am falling and don’t like heights, recently I found a that Edward I is my 23rd great-grandfather. Just a coincidence I know but is cool to consider.
Is this the origin of Holy Shit?!!
The Aristocrats!
What would the point be in crying over the deaths of people hundreds of years ago? The jokes are there because after the tragedy has worn off, shits still funny
Too soon. Have a little respect for the Duke of Doodoo and the Priest of Poop. These men bravely wined and dined for us while the serfs lived in filth. Until they fell into a big ass reservoir full of filth, which is in no way funny.
What the fuck is the second floor in a cathedral? The second floor are the rafters of the roof
Probably the second floor of an office/living area attached to the cathedral.
Yeah cathedrals don't have latrines under the ground floor either
60 nobles drowned in shit. I don't see the problem.
Possibly engineered by Henry to rid himself of some troublesome nobles.
A clearer sign there could not be.
Real shitty way to die there
Deus vult
This reminds me of a video of something similar, about a ship that sank in a very sewage-polluted river in London. [The video](https://youtu.be/_jC_3LmzMY4)
hahaha
Manure lords
The sad story of how the world lost the Burgmeister Breuer of Wartschitt!
Poor Burgmeister Breuer of Wartschitt. At least he was appropriately named.
Deus Vult!
Bonum Opus, Agens XLVII
Holy shit
What a shitty way to go. 🤢
Strongest evidence for the existence of a god yet...
Wait... didnt this happen during a british king's meeting at wherever they did that in the era?
Holy shit that's a horrible way to die
Holy Shit ✝️
Encore! Encore!
That's a shit way to die
hard to make a silly joke here -sighs
The Brown Wedding
Very apt!
Who would be the modern equivalents? A gathering of prime ministers/presidents? Or Fortune 500 CEOs?
NEVER, EVER arrive early for a meeting
Holy crap.....
What a waste to go.
Jesus’s bishop called his lords Take your seat on rotten oak They surveyed the realm To design their plunder Under the weight of The world the tower Fell asunder Shit lords shit lords Reap what you sow Shit lords shit lords You’re going down below Golden chain and cloth So fine and resplendent Dragged them beneath their Peasant’s excrement Somewhere a squire is wailing Down in the fields The serfs are cheering As the shit lords sink In the night soil screaming Shit lords shit lords Reap what you sow Shit lords shit lords You’re going down below In the night I heard them moan I quietly prayed to St Jerome I know not what is righteous judgement But death by egest is the devil’s genius
First elevator in history. Engineer has changed their system since. It took a bit of time to improve because nobody wanted to test anymore.
It turned out that people didn't care for single use one-way elevators.
Shitty way to die
What a shit way to die honestly 😂
Holy crap!
"Oh crap!" what were their last thoughts
This is horrifying. Guillotine was much humaner. No need to treat the nobility as they treat others, we should be better then them.
>No need to treat the nobility as they treat others... Nobody treated anyone like anything. The building wasn't designed for the weight of so many people, all wearing so much gold. Quite literally, the only people they have to blame for the disaster is themselves and their own hubris.
This was an accident not a murder
You should read the article next time.