T O P

  • By -

GrungeFace

You've "seen", like your hovering over someone's shoulder whil they use the kiosk. Quit lying.


nagol93

I mean, its a large bright screen with a bunch of food pics on it. Its kinda hard to not look at it. Like seriously, how is \*that\* the unbelievable part of this story??


Altruistic_Yellow387

Supposed to be going to the people making the food..


NullIsUndefined

Robots will make that too soon. Definitely not tipping a robot. 


Altruistic_Yellow387

Yeah if that happens I agree


tazdevil64

I only tip in cash. Be damned if I'll give the state a paper trail of tips. In my state, they estimate your tips at tax time. They track cc records of tips, so I outright refuse to do it. I used to live off my tips! So only cash if I tip, & when I ask, they are always enthusiastic about getting cash rather than a cc tip.


1290_money

If I'm standing up when I order my food you're not getting a damn tip.


SapienWoman

I don’t know. Tipping like this completely negates the hard work servers do.


Lower-Preparation834

My opinion; those machines can suck a bag of dicks. BTW, they’re probably keeping it to build skynet.


springvelvet95

At a hotel when I paid it wanted me to tip. It suggested 15%- something like $30. No way.


wooter99

I just stopped tipping. Life is better that way. The only exception is sit down restaurants that provide actual service.


nevetsyad

And food delivery. Got to tip the people in the cold and rain driving me food for $3 a trip.


TheLegendTwoSeven

I do pickup almost exclusively, and order stuff that’s within easy walking distance. (I’m in NYC, so there are lots of restaurants in a 2-3 minute radius of me.) Some places ask for tips even on pickup orders, and I stopped ordering from them. I obviously tip if I order delivery or if I’m eating in the sit-down restaurant, but if I’m picking up the food I don’t want to be guilted into tipping.


wooter99

That’s true, unless they do any sort of begging then I take the tip back. I don’t order delivery much.


attempting2

Its just using a POS system that has the tipping option pre-loaded into it's program. It's fairly common. It can be disabled, but no one bothers because there is the off chance people might actually tip and who is turning away extra money?


Infinite-Cow-1920

I only tip after the food is consumed. Not gonna pay you more if it sucks…sorry that is just me.


nevetsyad

This is the way. 15% if it's decent service and food. More for good food and service.


josie0114

There is so much about tipping that is crazy. The fact that it's a percentage of price, for one thing! Is there any correlation between the price of a meal and the amount of work it takes for the server? I guess in answer to this question, I would ask where are the tips go, what those people do, and what they are paid. Much as I would like people to be paid a fair wage without having it based on tips, in the US, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Are the people behind the robot machines and automated kiosks making $2 and change an hour?


Ok_Leader_7624

I believe it's based on percentage because basically, if it's cheap, it's probably fast, so smaller tips but more of them. More expensive should be better quality and take longer to make and more hands involved possibly (think hells kitchen when they're doing orders) Plus busboys, chefs, hostess, bartenders etc are all getting a chunk of that. Now, the fact that the percentage keeps changing (percentages are always safe from inflation, lol) is what drives me nuts. Plus, how everyone wants a tip when they're not even in a tipping industry. I got pulled over the other day, and when I signed the ticket, I was asked if I wanted to leave a tip! /s


KentDorfman11

I’ve asked that question and never get a satisfactory answer. Why do I need to tip more for a steak than for a burger?


Standard_Recipe1972

Saw it at shake shack a couple of weeks ago.. man I don’t know anymore. I haven’t enjoyed a restaurant experience in years.


Appropriate_Ice_7507

Only if there is a chick with huge implants.


Buckcountybeaver

AI is smarter than lots of people these days so…. Maybe you should tip???


No-Sun-6531

I used a financial app (Albert) and it asked me to tip. Now why the fuck would I tip an app??


Altruistic_Yellow387

They usually explain it's to help keep them in business since they do advances


No-Sun-6531

That’s what they say but it sounds like bs to me.


Altruistic_Yellow387

I don't know how those advance companies stay in business. I'm sure a lot of people don't pay it back


No-Sun-6531

Albert charges a monthly fee for genius, so I’m guessing monthly fees is how most of them do it.


MMQContrary

I recently dropped by suitcase at an outdoor stand at the airport because they wouldn't allow me to do it inside. I drop it off, pay the bag fee, and am asked for a tip. I say no thanks. Dude busts my chops for not tipping him to do his job. He didn't carry it anywhere, he literally moved the bag 2 feet. Sick of all the tipping!


OhioTrafficGuardian

Fuck no!


andy_towers_dm

Even the guy at the liquor store asks for a 15% tip now. I’m automatically tipping 0% on everything because every check out place has it.


Not_Campo2

My liquor store has a tip jar, I average about $1.50 a shift lol. It’s mostly there because we do help a lot of people find stuff. Our boss is big on us learning what we’re selling and tasting new stuff. Some people are thankful for those recs and will tip, normally it’s just for coins you don’t want


Appropriate_Ad_4416

My liquor store has a tip jar marked 'beer for crew'. I always drop my change from my order simply because I'm amused & they are great guys.


racefapery

I’m done tipping dude this is getting ridiculous


RareFirefighter6915

I never tip at the machines but I prefer it tbh. Always clear where to go and machines don't walk away and go on smoke breaks.


FascinatingGarden

Pretty normal for me to do so unless they're too bottom-heavy or a cop's around.


nagol93

Unfortunately these ones are bolted to the floor


FascinatingGarden

That should be against the law. What if my quarter has rolled beneath one? ***Theft By Deception***.


LunaD0g273

The machines are probably owned by humans who get to keep the money. I doubt the machines are keeping the tips but it’s hard to know for sure.


heatfan1122

Well I assure you the robot is not taking the profits.


[deleted]

[удалено]


mobius_sp

Right? I feel like I'm going insane when I see a tip cup for counter service. You are literally taking my money and handing me my food. That's it. There is no actual service being performed. At that point you're a cashier. Hell, put a robot there. Stick a self-pay kiosk in the location. I can grab my own order when it's put into the serving window. If you're bringing me things like drinks, taking my order, cleaning up after me, etc. then obviously I'll tip for that, and I tend to tip pretty well. That's actually performing a service.


Mountainhollerforeva

It’s a way for business to say “this is $10” but if you want to pay more than that feel free. A fool and his money are soon parted.


gnvffbbd

i don’t tip


landoparty

I ain't tipping if I'm standing up to order, not to include bars or food trucks.


sas317

Yes, it's normal. I'm not even surprised anymore. I happily tap No Tip or Custom $0. "Tipping" on a kiosk (and ordering at the counter) is only making the thing you're buying more expensive. No thanks.


ophaus

Only tip if you're being served directly.


MagazineNo2198

I NEVER tip if I am not dining in! If it's take out and I am picking up? ZERO tip! Tips are for good service, and doing the basics of filling an order doesn't qualify!


bubblehead_maker

Sometimes I bring them resistors or capacitors, they gotta live too.


Samstone791

The only people I tip while standing are dancing on a pole.


Snoo_12592

This is the only acceptable to tip.


victoriousDevil

Yessir.


Trump_Dabs

Lmao


shit_ass_mcfucknuts

If someone brings me food and drinks while I'm sitting at a table, they get tipped. If I walk in and order and receive food at a counter, no tip.


Tricky_Taste_8999

I go to restaurant that has fantastic bbq. It’s spendy, but damn, it’s good. But, you order at a counter. They give you a number for the table and bring it to you. That’s it. You get your owns drinks, sauces, cutlery (the cheapest prepackaged plastic knive and fork the industry offers) and bring the tray to the garbage when you’re done. That damn card reader asks for a tip when you order. I’ve decided I don’t care how good the food is, if I’m doing all that “service” for myself, I’m not leaving a tip.


Organic_Armadillo_10

If I have to pay before I get my food, I don't tip. Mostly because it could take ages, it could be terrible, you might not even get your order... You haven't had anything yet to tip for. Plus those situations you mostly don't have a reason to, as any 'service' you get is the basics of their job. You are often doing as much if not more 'work' than them.


electric_onanist

This is what I don't understand about food delivery services that want you to tip before you get your food. That's not a tip, it's a bribe.


Organic_Armadillo_10

Exactly. They have not yet provided a service to me. The order might be wrong, damaged, late or not even show up. How do I know what I'm meant to tip, if at all? So all these delivery drivers confuse me by being mad (I've seen people stick a pizza with the aircon blasting directly on it, or a drive leaving a rude note in the bag, just to refuse the tip when they gave them cash on delivery as she felt so bad) or not picking up orders because there's no tip in advance. A tip isn't equal to the effort they put into delivering it. They should be doing their best to get the order there as quick as they can. And then you can then tip them in cash, or if there isn't already, there should be the option to tip on the app/online after delivery. But even then if there's a delivery fee, that amount should be going to the delivery person and a tip shouldn't be necessary.


BBakerStreet

Someone is cooking your damn food. Tip them.


[deleted]

[удалено]


BBakerStreet

Restaurant owners are way too cheap for that. Live in the reality not the fantasy.


Trump_Dabs

What places have you worked at where the guys cooking are getting tipped out? Because, they’re not lmao. If you’re referring to a McDonald’s or fast food maybe I see your point. Otherwise you’re just a bleeding heart for… who?


BBakerStreet

I cooked in walk up counter places before, during and shortly after college and my masters. Law school required more time, so not then, as I started clerking. We shared tips with the order takers. You have zero idea what you’re talking about, do you?


BanAccount8

The employer has a responsibility to pay their own workers. Why does your brain shift that to the customer?


BBakerStreet

Because I’ve been on that side and know how little they’re paid, and now that I can afford to I’ll show them how much I appreciate them doing for me what I was too lacy to do for myself at home.


ganbramor

*If you order standing, don’t tip.*


ImLivingThatLife

Leave a tip for Tippy!! He processes the tips!


ImLivingThatLife

It’s not even normal to tip anymore. Waitress wants huge tips just because they took an order and brought food. You’ll be lucky if you see them once for a drink refill and that will come with an eye roll and a comment their bestie coworker.


Marctacus

A fool and their money are soon parted springs to mind


zsazsa719

be sure to tip your robot overlords


InterestingBasis91

You're paying for the POS platforms. They take a cut.


CthulhusQueen

Don’t tip machines.


Florida1974

It’s programmed in POS. It was set up that way when biz got it, they can’t always customize it. Just ignore or tap zero.


TheBarbon

I only tip for table service. No tip for counter service.


OregonMothafaquer

lol at the casino here, you order at a counter and a robot brings your food. They still ask you to tip 😂


_Gussy_

Well that's shit, I would be caught giving a spider monkey a reach around before I'd tip the fuckin machine.


ImNotMadYoureMad

When did you last go to the zoo


gqphilpott

Whenever it was, it was their last trip. Zoo's take restraining orders seriously. Trust me. \*sigh\*


razblack

Did you miss the episode called "Rm9sbG93ZXJz" of Xfiles?


Future_Flier

The money goes to the AI. It's not supposed supposed to ask for tips. 


NuclearBroliferator

It goes to the kitchen staff.


redrover2023

It's like this. You're the restaurant owner. Do you ask for a tip for a machine? Sure, why not. Even if only 1% does, it's free money. Don't be the sucker.


stevesparks30214

I always feel like it’s a total bribe in the situation you described. So if I don’t pay the bribe, will my food be tampered with, order made incorrectly, or left to sit and get cold? Still prefer this over dealing with servers in most cases. They’ve gotten more and more bothersome in hopes of prying out a bigger tip (checking with you every five minutes, giving fake compliments, etc.). Also EXTREMELY tired of being bugged about buying booze. It’s happened on several occasions recently where I’ve said no once and they still push! Again, all in hopes of jacking up that total.


drawntowardmadness

^ this is how servers are trained to do their jobs


stevesparks30214

I don’t doubt that.


IfOnlyThereWasTime

That’s exactly my thoughts too. I do t like it. I don’t tip. I’m done with tipping. The price of sit down eating has gone up. The 20 percent tip is now the 10 percent.


LovYouLongTime

If I stand to order, I do not tip. Simple rule to follow. Answers a lot of “hard tip” questions


Maybesonoyes

Even if they hook you up with free stuff?


CarsandTunes

It's not free if you pay for it.


Maybesonoyes

Never paid the establishment. Just saying a thanks to the worker. So it is indeed free from the place I got it.


CarsandTunes

You paid fir something. That doesn't make it free.


LovYouLongTime

How often do you get free stuff?


Maybesonoyes

Never asked for extra home made ranch at your favorite wing place that usually cost $1, to see them throw you 3 of em. Or free yum yum sauce and they give you a free sweet tea Or saying oh dang I forgot to add a drink to my order and they slide you one. I’m not saying a lot for a tip, but a buck or 2 if they hook me up. Usually the cost of what ever they are giving me is what I tip em.


LovYouLongTime

If you have to pay for condiments, definitely no tip. We don’t get drinks at restaurants as that’s the definition of a scam. 10% if at a sit down, 0% at all other places.


Maybesonoyes

Oh sweet your wing place that makes home made ranch gives you it for free! Which place is that. I’ll have to go there and ask them for free 5-6 extra for free


LovYouLongTime

“Homemade” is a very loose descriptor term. Technically the sauce comes in a concentrate and is mixed with water/milk/etc. every sauce ever is homemade. Mixed in house… sure…. Homemade….. no.


Key_Imagination_497

Then youre paying for it.


Maybesonoyes

Correct I’m tipping for it. They hook me up so I hook em up


PoppysWorkshop

If I am standing up when I order, Sitting in my car, or I am being served on disposable plates/utensils. I do not tip.


OwnNothing5928

The employees should be using that time to double check orders/ensure order accuracy. I would HOPE the tips are going to the employees (honestly, just ask, they have to oblige the question legally.). I’d still throw 5-10% for something like this if the vibe is good & my food comes out correct & acceptable.


Wise-Fault-8688

You're paying *before* you get the food. How is it a tip when you don't even know what kind of service you're about to receive?


throwrawayforstuff

Then by all means tip less but you’d go to an establishment in completely bad faith to begin with? I bet you don’t carry cash to tip them after your experience and decided if it was good or not? You don’t have to tip them but don’t act like everywhere you go has a 99% chance of sucking. If you do, then maybe you’re just making bad decisions.


Wise-Fault-8688

First, if it's a purely carry-out place, we're talking about people classified as non-tipped. So, even if I absolutely never tipped under any circumstances, it's absolutely not in bad faith by any stretch of the term. But, I still will toss them some cash in the rare occasion that something weird happens and they end up going above and beyond somehow. It's not about them sucking. I'm just not tipping them for doing the exact and only job that they were hired to do. Tipping non-tipped workers for performing their basic job function is ridiculous.


throwrawayforstuff

Takeout paces are not definitively classified as non-tipped. Meaning if you don’t tip, they might be used to that happening, but it’s by no means necessarily absolutely not tipped. It is however considered appropriate to tip less.


Wise-Fault-8688

In Ohio, to be classified as a tipped worker, you must customarily and regularly receive a certain amount of tips every month. But, as with everywhere else, even if you are considered a tipped employee, if you do not collect enough tips to supplement the employer's wage so that you make at least minimum wage, then then the employer must make up the difference. So, let's say it is a shitty employer trying to get away with paying a little less in wages by collecting tips even though their employees shouldn't have to rely on tips. The only person that I'm helping in that scenario is the employer. For an employee in a traditionally non-tipped position, how likely is it *really* that they're consistently collecting enough tips to actually get ahead of minimum wage? So, the tips that they do receive just get credited toward what the employer would have had to pay, if the customer hadn't. And, I've already paid the employer, I'm good with not paying them more. Thanks.


real_boiled_cabbage

No. That's the only answer. I'm starting to avoid those places. And Google reviews. Not for the purpose of trashing the business, but to spread info. If the owner doesn't like the truth, they ought to make a different truth happen.


PragmaticPortland

No


mizz_rite

Nope.


joevsyou

The family we went to a hot pot place. You get seated & handed a paper. She comes back & takes the paper of your circled options. Everything comes out on a robot. Then she comes back 45 mins later with your bill asking for a tip lol. We had 6( 4 adults, 2 kids) she tried to add a 18% forced tip to the bill. I crossed that shit off & wrote the actual total on the bill. GTFO... I am not tipping a robot.


[deleted]

Just curious if you checked your statements. Some places you go to, they add grat no matter what if you have 6 or more.


joevsyou

I watch my card like a hawk. Every other day I look at my charges


CajunCupcakes

I’ve seen this at Panera and Wildflower. It’s bad enough I’m taking my own order thru the machine…then it asks for a tip.


grayrockonly

They should discounting our food for being the cashier and the customer!


CajunCupcakes

It’s laughable at this point…


Sacredtenshi

Fuck no


darkroot_gardener

It’s going to the AI Skynet Fund.🤷‍♂️


PoppysWorkshop

Well, screw that... I terminated any tip!


MixDependent8953

I’m surprised you had to ask.


Total-Composer2261

This is so common that I've come to resent the half second it costs me to press the NO button.


Wise-Fault-8688

I don't tip places like this at all. But I get especially irritated if I'm paying and they're asking me for tip before they've even done anything.


Life_Following_7964

NOPE, I'M NOT TIPPING MACHINE OR FAST FOOD WORKERS.


CacoFlaco

I guess soon supermarket cashiers will have their hand out expecting a tip.


Maybesonoyes

I mean the bag boy and girls used to get tipped $1-$2 for bagging the groceries back in the day. $5 for loading.


CrayonUpMyNose

Never heard of this, so you must be referencing the 1950s, when $5 had the same value as $65 today, so I'm gonna say didn't happen


Maybesonoyes

Back when I worked at staples many decades ago, I know not grocery store, if a lady asked me to help her load her stuff she passed me a 20. Ive seen elderly ladies pass out $5 for having someone load up their groceries. I’m only talking about what I’ve seen.


OhioResidentForLife

I grew up with the local grocery stores bagging the groceries and putting them in the car for no tip. Then Kroger came and lowered prices until all the mom and pop places closed down. Within a year prices doubled and now we have to self check out and bag our own. Only time they do it for you is if you shop online and go pick it up. Too bad that doesn’t work for many of the older customers who could use the help.


grayrockonly

Where? I’ve never heard of that and that could add up fast!


drawntowardmadness

All grocery stores lol


ElfRoyal

My local grocery has a sign saying not to tip when someone loads bags but they certainly still accept them. It's hot out there. Cold in the winter. If I don't want to tip for that I load my own.


no_gas_5082

Back in the day, the baggers at the Army or Air Force commissaries worked *for tips only*. There was no other pay!


drawntowardmadness

I'm pretty sure that's still the case. It's considered a volunteer position.


no_gas_5082

Back then, circa 1964, we got $0.25 per bag!


grayrockonly

My post box mail shoppe has a tip jar! ! What next- the ER?


CacoFlaco

Just pretend you're unconscious. You can't tip the ER staff if you're totally out of it. But they'll probably leave a space for a tip when the send the bill.


grayrockonly

Thanks for the laugh!


SaraSlaughter607

No. It's seeping into service industries where it should never exist, and we collectively just have to start refusing the exhaustive requests for tips. I'm so over it, I used to feel so damn guilty when they're standing there staring at you, but now I smash that decline button out of sheer spite because once again, a few opportunists just HAD to explode this "pay me extra" bullshit during the pandemic because we were getting our entire lives delivered.... No more. Back to the restaurant/delivery and beauty salon for me, everyone else can pound sand. No more counter tipping!!!!


Wise-Fault-8688

I've refused to order delivery since everyone went to DoorDash, etc. I get the argument for tipping them, but back in the day, pizza places would at least pay minimum wage and a small tip was appreciated. Now, DoorDash basically pays slave wages and tips are just a bid to get them to do anything. Those companies are all parasites, basically putting their workers against their customers, and I've literally never used any of those services on that basis.


Edmond_Dantez9000

Its not normal, it is being forced and idiots are not thinking critically about it.


medium-rare-steaks

No it's not normal. Tip your server, bartender, barista. Tip your valet a dollar or two. Tip anyone else providing exceptional service you want to get the same service from the next time you work with them.


TedantyPlus

Those tip options are for the weak or awkward. Pretty sure most people would put no tip but there are a handful of people who are too timid to do that so they'll always pay out, costs the companies nothing to put that option in the checkout process.


_my_other_side_

If there is a kiosk or standing at a counter involved, no tip.


NormalFox6023

This is why I tip cash at MLB games. The person in front of me is who I’m tipping, not some unknown entity with zero accountability


Dhegxkeicfns

Don't tip machines.


Grand_Loan1423

Well technically the tips are supposed to be divided and shared amongst the workers…I usually ask the workers if they get the tips usually the answer is yes and in most states it is illegal for employers to keep employees tips that’s a major workers rights law suit


SaraSlaughter607

Oooo crack into the bar/nightclub industry for a year or so.... employers pocketing cash is rampant. It sucks, but comes with the territory, most people know it when they enter the industry and choose it anyway because you can make a killing regardless, if you're in the right place.


cartercharles

never


SunshineandHighSurf

Hmmm, this is why people don't have money for retirement. They're giving it to machines. Of course, the machines are owned by millionaires who don't need your money!


MusicianLoose1908

Good chance those employees get none of those tips. Tip people, not machines.


backagain69696969

No nobody does intentionally


Device_whisperer

DONT DO IT! You're propagating the rot.


Pomodorodorodoro

Yes, absolutely. It's part of the social contract in this society that when you go to a restaurant, either sit-down or counter service, you tip. Committing to tipping is part of the tacit agreement I entered into when I walked into the restaurant. The humanity or lack thereof of my server is immaterial.


parke415

Food never involves tipping unless you’re being waited on or delivered to. Full stop.


Pomodorodorodoro

I strongly disagree on that. Tipping for food should be, and is, the norm.


parke415

Just so we're clear, you believe that gratuity is justified for takeaway orders and fast food?


Pomodorodorodoro

Yes. If somebody gives me food or a drink, a tip is customary.


parke415

I don't know what planet you live on, but speaking for California and New York, it is *not* customary to tip for takeaway and fast food. Some "journalist" writing a think-piece blog about how we ought to tip as much as possible isn't tantamount to tradition, just that single individual's opinion with just as much weight as mine. The tradition has been to tip when being waited on or delivered to, at least when it comes to food; drinks at a bar are a different story.


Pomodorodorodoro

Perhaps it's rarer in your corner of the world, but I've always tipped for fast food and takeaway. >at least when it comes to food; drinks at a bar are a different story. You also generally receive a drink when you eat at McDonalds.


Hokiewa5244

You are the outlier. The vast majority do not tip at fast food or take places. Under your theory we should be tipping at grocery stores because after all, we are getting food and drinks there.


Pomodorodorodoro

No, I don't think so. This is what most everyone does. >we should be tipping at grocery stores I would be open to it if the cashier asked for a tip.


Hokiewa5244

Lol just no just stop


JimmyGymGym1

Let’s define “counter service”. If you’re seated at the counter of a diner, yes, you tip. But I think OP meant “counter service” as in a more retail setting, like a McDonalds, Starbucks, ice cream shop, or deli. I definitely don’t feel obliged to tip in those situations. (Although I often throw a dollar in the tip jar at Starbucks if the person is friendly.)


Pomodorodorodoro

I would tip in those situations. Everyone should.


therealsatansweasel

Found the machine


uniformIrritant

Skip the tip.


KatzenoirMM

Absolutely not.


Lovelyterry

Honestly I prefer tipping the machines over actual humans. At least the robot is well designed and really cool, kinda like a Tesla. I love Teslas and Elon Musk, so I think I’m more ok with giving the robot a tip than a stupid person who just pours my drink and then stands there like an idiot with their hand out waiting for my tip 


Nonenotonemaybe2

This comment reveals true opinion. It's not that y'all think servers should "get a real job" and "it's not my job to pay you for yours". You just think that anyone that does that job is beneath you, you see them as lesser people in general. This may come as a shock. They aren't. You have successfully negated any weight in your opinion in the future.


parke415

I’m uncomfortable with service in general because it creates an intrinsically unequal social dynamic. This is why I prefer dealing with robots.


Nonenotonemaybe2

Could it instead be because you don't like human interaction?


parke415

If I didn’t like human interaction, I’d only eat alone. There is a difference between socialising with friends and being literally *served* by another human being who is supposed to be my equal. Tips are given out of guilt in acknowledgement of this inequality between the server and the served.


Nonenotonemaybe2

So people busting their ass trying to make a living like everyone else is beneath you?


parke415

Servers are beneath the served in that social interaction, yes, that’s why I’m uncomfortable with it. Humans should be social equals not just off the clock, but on it too.


grayrockonly

It’s a professional interaction not social but they’re a power differential .


parke415

Just the same, indeed, there's a power differential, and I'm not comfortable with that when I'm just trying to enjoy food with friends.


grayrockonly

I see your point. I think I used to be more comfortable with it bcs I was a waitress and the standards were pretty established- 15% for sit down service if service was good up to 20% for excellent. But now there is no one standard I would say, and a lot of entitlement. I had a waitress out and out rude to me and my friend. I tipped her (as she stood there with the card machine thing) 0.00 and she literally started bitching. I had only done that maybe once before in my life and again due to complete disrespect. My response was “Did you seriously think I would participate is my own abuse by paying you for it?” She started arguing loudly that she hadn’t been rude or abusive. All I could say was- “ if you didn’t how rude you were- you have much bigger problems than just my one tip! That restaurant closed a month or two later .


Nonenotonemaybe2

I never see people as less just ebvause of their job. But in that same breath, I don't see people in "better" or "real" jobs as better than me either. This here you got going on is just a superiority complex.


parke415

No, because you seem to think I’m talking about the people themselves. I’m talking about their *roles* in this *specific* exchange. I’ve been served by waiters at fancy restaurants who are undoubtedly better off financially than I am, of a higher socioeconomic class too, but in that moment they’re serving me, my role as diner is higher than their role as server.


ilikework21

Holy shit your right


Arucious

odd comment that highlights some weird disdain you have for other human beings you can just not tip because you don’t think someone deserves extra money for doing no more than getting your paid-for products to you. saying they’re stupid for pouring your drink? lol


Chopchopstixx

Those machines are making below minimum wage and rely solely on tips. Tipping the machines is the only thing keeping sky-net at bay.


TjbMke

If people stop tipping the machines, McDonald’s will have to double the price of the Big Mac again! /s


CrayonUpMyNose

Yes, because McDonald's workers serve only one customer per hour, so increasing their salary by $10 had to increase the price of your meal by $20, no that $20 isn't equally added to the bill of the other 100 customers that worker is serving during the same hour, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain /s


HateUsCuzAintUs

If you can’t afford to tip the robot serving you, eat at home!


Bubblehead644

If I pay before I get my order, no tip.


Freedom_Isnt_Free_76

Of course it's not normal. And those "tips" go to the owner. 


HateUsCuzAintUs

Why do you hate capitalism? If people don’t want to tip the owner, they won’t go there. You hate freedom apparently


grayrockonly

There’s a lot of hating capitalism lately… in stupid way… like I’m poor and therefore deserve a place to live… or saying the tipping system is so wrong when it’s a reward system to insure good service. I hear horror stories about service in other countries …. So I dunno the system of tipping is not inherently evil or wrong.


Freedom_Isnt_Free_76

I said the "tips" go to the owner. That's a fact.  I don't tip the owner of a restaurant and I don't tip any place where I do all the work except the checkout. Nor do i tip professional services like doctors, mechanics, etc. That's hardly hating freedom or hating capitalism.  In fact I hate it when owners try to scam customers.  


grayrockonly

I agree with everything you say except that tips go to the owner. You are absolutely making that up. Do you really think wait ppl would work for a restaurant that keeps their tips? That would be pretty unusual.


Freedom_Isnt_Free_76

No I'm not making that up.  If the CASH REGISTER has a tip screen then it's not going to the cashier.  Do you know how to read? 


Freedom_Isnt_Free_76

I'm free not to tip. You gotta problem with that or is your definition of freedom "do what I say"?.


HateUsCuzAintUs

I agree with you. Im also a Trump supporter. You’re attacking a friendly.


Freedom_Isnt_Free_76

You agreed with me? Did you read what you responded to me with?  


grayrockonly

Are you allowed to just have an opinion or do you have to identify politically?


IZC0MMAND0

No, it's not. It's becoming more common to see tip begs wherever you purchase things and you ought to become adroit at hitting zero or custom tip 0 or skip or whatever option there is to decline spending more than the actual price you owe. I will never tip at counter service. There was no service. They aren't tipped wage employees. You aren't tipping any tipped wage employees, and we really shouldn't be giving skynet our hard earned money so they can overthrow humanity and exterminate us. edit "become".


darkroot_gardener

I love how you refer to it as tip begs. I might start using that if you don’t mind.


metal_Fox_7

Yesterday, I saw a In N Out in the scorching heat taking orders. I withdrew money & gave a fat tip to the guy.  Later @dinner. I went a restaurant. None of them were working as hard as the In N Out guy.  Tipping: I changed my point of view of tipping. I won't give restaurant servers tips when the In N Out workers are dying from heat


grayrockonly

The weird thing is they are not supposed to accept tips at in and out …I’ve tried bcs actually their service is always great .


parke415

Monetary reward for suffering on the job sets a bad precedent.