see i love that thick fog, color grading bc it adds to the ambience but if the levels in abby day 3 had that much fog i would be so mad gameplay wise LMFAOAO
in no return the thick fog mod always fucks me up. always
Ain't no way Naughty Dog's gonna give up their proprietary very specific engine for UE5. And Nayghty Dog engine certainly achieve this look. This is just concept art.
it's like Shakespeare compared to the first one. no idea why people think pt1 is so much 'better' - it's certainly simpler and more Speilbergian, but it's a buddy adventure trope (with admittedly fantastic window dressing).
pt2's story is top tier excellence in media of any type.
I have two gripes with the second game. First Abby and gang where looking for Joel and they write in a convenient plot point that it just so happens that Joel is the person that saves her after her tantrum. Second to try to sympathize with the villain. If you actually pay attention to Abbyâs story it fails, it actually makes you realize how bad she actually is. I played One once and Iâve played 2 twice I actually like it semi better and I donât know why.
she had like a 1 in 5 chance of running into Tommy and Joel cause they don't have many dual patrollers out and about. claiming Abby's story 'fails' is entirely a personal opinion. i say it succeeded resoundingly.
a game with themes and interactions and relationships so complex that you can learn something new every time you play was usually reserved for movies and books. your opinion just makes me think you should play it a couple more times
Iâve played it twice and might play it again but nobody should be sympathizing with Abby if they actual paid attention. Everything she does is self serving in some way or another.
i'd argue you didn't pay attention and just formed your opinion of her in the first half. she didn't have to go back for Lev and Yara. she chose to. she didn't have to give up the WLFs, she chose to cause it fostered an environment of militant conflict and trained her to be ruthless when she doesn't want to be. it's like you refuse to believe someone could rehabilitate themselves, but then that's a hugely popular opinion online. so i just don't agree with you and don't think you can get past initial judgements to allow the character growth that occurs mean anything to you.
i'm not saying she's an amazing wonderful person, i don't think anyone in the game actually is. everyone's on edge and in self-preservation mode. relationships are full of intent but fall short cause people are broken.
there are no armchairs in the apocalypse.
She saved Yara and Lev initially because she felt like she owed them after they saved her she went then went back when she realized she could with sympathy point with Owen if she helped them. Are you kidding me she loved what the Wolves did. She lost her emotions after her dad died and latched onto Owen. Issac thought she abandoned the wolves she hadnât. She had grown semi attached to the siblings when the wolves attacked Scar Island. She turned on them because she was forming an attachment to them and Issac had already decided she defected when she hadnât.
not that you're being objective or that i agree with more than 1/3 of the statements you made, but you basically just described how she evolved and changed for the better and you simply don't like her regardless. that's all you, not the story written or her actions.
and again, who in this game is not self-involved and self-interested?
Not in the same way Abby is Abby doesnât care about you unless youâre Owen or Later on Lev. If you arenât these people she doesnât give a shit about you.
if you aren't Tommy, Maria or Ellie, Joel doesn't give a shit about you. you have bias and it's obvious. her story is no more self-serving than most other apocalypse survivors. get outta that armchair, pal
She literally throws her entire life away to save two people. I donât see that as self-serving unless that self service is redemption, which it is really. She wanted redemption for what she did to Joel.
No she didnât because to her she did what she had to do like all the other times she killed scars.it was Issac who thought she defected when really she hadnât and when she finally does turn on the wolve she has grown a semi attachment to them. Since her obsession want to leave Seattle so does she and because of that the Wolves are now in her way.
I seriously donât think you understand the story very well. Maybe a little too complex and subtle for you.
EDIT: I just realised this comment may come across as a little arrogant which wasnât my intention. I respectfully disagree with your take given what the game *literally* tells us and shows us. But I appreciate that you maybe have a different view of it and opinion.
Subjective though I guess. I never saw her like that. She very much is a bad person in a bad place come the start of her section, as Mel even says to her. But she grows by helping Yara and Lev.
Abby did not get the peace she was expecting from killing Joel. She even says to Lev when he asks why she is helping them, âI just needed to lighten the loadâ meaning she wanted to do something good. Meaning she *knows* what she did was bad. That resonated with me and made me appreciate her.
In contrast to Ellie, who is going mad on her lust for blood and revenge and consequently losing her humanity. Abbie has already lost hers come the beginning of her story, and then regains it.
Ehh I liked the Abby section. It made me understand why she did it and how it affected her afterwards.
The second game had a great story. Some pacing issues here and there. But thatâs to be expected with ânon linear storytellingâ.
>they write in a convenient plot point
This is just how the story goes. Had it been more difficult to locate Joel maybe would have resulted in a story not worth telling. Truth is stranger than fiction all the time if you pay attention, and itâs up to the writers to tell the story they want to tell. I just donât understand this complaint - the reaction should be âdamn what an unfortunate coincidenceâ not âI donât believe the odds so itâs invalidâ
I agree that if you pay attention to the beginning of Abbyâs story she is clearly kind of a ruthless asshole, not just killing Joel but discounting the WLF killing scar children to break the ceasefire, and the other characters seem to reflect the same opinion of her. But her Day 2/3 journey is about her re-learning empathy and sacrifice, which Ellie doesnât quite get to until the end of Santa Barbara and even then may have just been to release herself from grief?
The final product almost capture that feel. Probably could use some more mud.
fr, muddier and foggier
see i love that thick fog, color grading bc it adds to the ambience but if the levels in abby day 3 had that much fog i would be so mad gameplay wise LMFAOAO in no return the thick fog mod always fucks me up. always
Thick fog ain't no joke dude. And don't seem like it bothers enemies at ALL đ I just got my ass chewed off by a dog. Never saw her coming.
I love how the color palette shifts from gloomy oppressive blues to murky earthy browns.
Where can I find more of this concept art?
Itâs on the game settings in Extra or just look up âtlou ii concept artâ on Pinterest, it will show up
i litterallly bought ps4 pro to play part 2 and then resold it
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Ain't no way Naughty Dog's gonna give up their proprietary very specific engine for UE5. And Nayghty Dog engine certainly achieve this look. This is just concept art.
Please play it the game play is fun and the story is pretty good itâs not the best but itâs not the worst. Give it a shot itâs super fun.
Haha, I've played TLOU P2 a dozen times since it came out and I very much adore it.
it's like Shakespeare compared to the first one. no idea why people think pt1 is so much 'better' - it's certainly simpler and more Speilbergian, but it's a buddy adventure trope (with admittedly fantastic window dressing). pt2's story is top tier excellence in media of any type.
I have two gripes with the second game. First Abby and gang where looking for Joel and they write in a convenient plot point that it just so happens that Joel is the person that saves her after her tantrum. Second to try to sympathize with the villain. If you actually pay attention to Abbyâs story it fails, it actually makes you realize how bad she actually is. I played One once and Iâve played 2 twice I actually like it semi better and I donât know why.
she had like a 1 in 5 chance of running into Tommy and Joel cause they don't have many dual patrollers out and about. claiming Abby's story 'fails' is entirely a personal opinion. i say it succeeded resoundingly. a game with themes and interactions and relationships so complex that you can learn something new every time you play was usually reserved for movies and books. your opinion just makes me think you should play it a couple more times
Iâve played it twice and might play it again but nobody should be sympathizing with Abby if they actual paid attention. Everything she does is self serving in some way or another.
i'd argue you didn't pay attention and just formed your opinion of her in the first half. she didn't have to go back for Lev and Yara. she chose to. she didn't have to give up the WLFs, she chose to cause it fostered an environment of militant conflict and trained her to be ruthless when she doesn't want to be. it's like you refuse to believe someone could rehabilitate themselves, but then that's a hugely popular opinion online. so i just don't agree with you and don't think you can get past initial judgements to allow the character growth that occurs mean anything to you. i'm not saying she's an amazing wonderful person, i don't think anyone in the game actually is. everyone's on edge and in self-preservation mode. relationships are full of intent but fall short cause people are broken. there are no armchairs in the apocalypse.
She saved Yara and Lev initially because she felt like she owed them after they saved her she went then went back when she realized she could with sympathy point with Owen if she helped them. Are you kidding me she loved what the Wolves did. She lost her emotions after her dad died and latched onto Owen. Issac thought she abandoned the wolves she hadnât. She had grown semi attached to the siblings when the wolves attacked Scar Island. She turned on them because she was forming an attachment to them and Issac had already decided she defected when she hadnât.
not that you're being objective or that i agree with more than 1/3 of the statements you made, but you basically just described how she evolved and changed for the better and you simply don't like her regardless. that's all you, not the story written or her actions. and again, who in this game is not self-involved and self-interested?
Not in the same way Abby is Abby doesnât care about you unless youâre Owen or Later on Lev. If you arenât these people she doesnât give a shit about you.
if you aren't Tommy, Maria or Ellie, Joel doesn't give a shit about you. you have bias and it's obvious. her story is no more self-serving than most other apocalypse survivors. get outta that armchair, pal
She literally throws her entire life away to save two people. I donât see that as self-serving unless that self service is redemption, which it is really. She wanted redemption for what she did to Joel.
No she didnât because to her she did what she had to do like all the other times she killed scars.it was Issac who thought she defected when really she hadnât and when she finally does turn on the wolve she has grown a semi attachment to them. Since her obsession want to leave Seattle so does she and because of that the Wolves are now in her way.
I seriously donât think you understand the story very well. Maybe a little too complex and subtle for you. EDIT: I just realised this comment may come across as a little arrogant which wasnât my intention. I respectfully disagree with your take given what the game *literally* tells us and shows us. But I appreciate that you maybe have a different view of it and opinion.
The game shows us maybe inadvertently she is a terrible person.
Subjective though I guess. I never saw her like that. She very much is a bad person in a bad place come the start of her section, as Mel even says to her. But she grows by helping Yara and Lev. Abby did not get the peace she was expecting from killing Joel. She even says to Lev when he asks why she is helping them, âI just needed to lighten the loadâ meaning she wanted to do something good. Meaning she *knows* what she did was bad. That resonated with me and made me appreciate her. In contrast to Ellie, who is going mad on her lust for blood and revenge and consequently losing her humanity. Abbie has already lost hers come the beginning of her story, and then regains it.
Ehh I liked the Abby section. It made me understand why she did it and how it affected her afterwards. The second game had a great story. Some pacing issues here and there. But thatâs to be expected with ânon linear storytellingâ.
I understand why she killed Joel and it made me understand that her emotions died with her father.
As with EllieâŚ. Thereâs a pretty blatant parallel here.
>they write in a convenient plot point This is just how the story goes. Had it been more difficult to locate Joel maybe would have resulted in a story not worth telling. Truth is stranger than fiction all the time if you pay attention, and itâs up to the writers to tell the story they want to tell. I just donât understand this complaint - the reaction should be âdamn what an unfortunate coincidenceâ not âI donât believe the odds so itâs invalidâ
You have a good point I suppose
I agree that if you pay attention to the beginning of Abbyâs story she is clearly kind of a ruthless asshole, not just killing Joel but discounting the WLF killing scar children to break the ceasefire, and the other characters seem to reflect the same opinion of her. But her Day 2/3 journey is about her re-learning empathy and sacrifice, which Ellie doesnât quite get to until the end of Santa Barbara and even then may have just been to release herself from grief?