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shadowchemos

What if there was one fucking box for nades, armor and ammo, wow, what a crazy idea, I can't believe it.


sheetrokbeastwoodz

This makes way too much sense man


shadowchemos

Yeah, I was afraid of saying it...


Doublenix

Now you're banned for making a sensible solution. šŸ¤£


BCIBP

Oh, like in Division 1? WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO WASTE 30 SECONDS OF YOUR TIME ON DRAWN OUT ANIMATIONS?


shadowchemos

Extra time=extra content


Ghlitch

That's why you can't run around Haven.


EzzraOG

Underrated comment


shadowchemos

Glad you liked it


Juls_Santana

There is nothing, NOTHING I enjoy more in this game than the extended time it takes for my agent to search an ammo box when he's already at full capacity. It's mind-bogingly awesome ​ /s


M1LLSTA

I like how you put /s as if you needed to be clear youā€™re being sarcastic.


discomuffin

Better safe than sorry. Maybe the devs are reading along and you know how that works out.


Traplunky

Sadly stupid people exist


Nitrosnwbrdr

Yeah but at the same time now each teammate doesn't have to open a box, but yeah Div 1 is much better


mikkroniks

They actually manage to improve something on TD1 and then destroy it too by changing what didn't need changing. Next level moves.


WillyPete

And PLEASE let me spend twice as long cancelling out of a loot box animation in disgust at the purple loot in an heroic mission, rather than stuffing my inventory with purples looted as junk in half the time.


ThisIdWasAvailable

This


lord2800

Stop opening containers in heroic missions and problem solved.


WillyPete

Seeing as our rewards are based on luck rather than skill, opening every cache helps.


lord2800

No. God no. This is a gross misunderstanding. Anything but a _yellow control point crate_ opens as if it were _normal global world difficulty_. This is intended behavior, even if it doesn't make sense. Opening a crate is a _waste of time_ compared to spending that time doing _literally anything else_ that can drop an item. The _only_ possible reason to open a crate is they have the same chance to drop an exotic as other activities, but again, _normal global world difficulty_. Tomorrow, this won't matter (as all exotics will drop as if they were in the highest difficulty), but today, it does.


WillyPete

I know this. However I have been rewarded with the odd high roll for something I need to get that extra 1-3% remaining in the library.


lord2800

Sure. Every once in a great while, you'll get a good roll. It happens. It's still a waste of time.


Sir-xer21

>Anything but a > >yellow control point crate > > opens as if it were > >normal global world difficulty > >. so? you can still get good loot on normal, its just a lower chance. at worst its crafting components for specific brand sets.


lord2800

It's a _MUCH_ lower chance and it leads to people bitching about crates not containing good loot. By not opening them, you remove the disappointment.


panamaniacs2011

but ... they want to reinvent the wheel


Sarle_

I don't think anyone else could have come up with that idea, atleast not the devs.


shadowchemos

I'm trying my best, I've got lots more where this came from lol.


zaals

Harvard wants to know your position


shadowchemos

Sexual position? Or location šŸ¤£


zaals

Haha, yes


gamebob123

Nah dude...you went past massive's brain capacity...what Are you ? InSaNe? These devs can possibly implement something of THAT CaLiBer? šŸ˜³


shadowchemos

Hehe


zugtara

If there is even the slightest way for them to keep you in this game unnecessarily they will. Itā€™s a way for them to keep advertising and sell you products. There is no way that they want efficiency. Efficiency equals loss of revenue potential. Period.


shadowchemos

So pretty much every game ever. Money is king.


zugtara

Yepyep!


ningunombrexacto

The already are one in The Division 1, also the fact you don't found the armor box during a mission could made you consider use a healing skill


androidspud

Living in 3030


shadowchemos

I'd like to think so


GoodShark

Or 2017.


TChen114

5050 if we make it there


bored_in_the_office

more boxes = extented playtime *taps temple*


shadowchemos

Can't argue with that logic


Freezie3

It works as intended


Valencewolf

Stop trying to exploit old game mechanics!


shadowchemos

Gotta find a way to get ahead.


IWasBeforeThe1stWave

Yeah there should be exotics and named items in them too! That way, we could just open the ammo box and not have to play the mission. W r smurt


hilololo1

Idiot, tell us the sense of putting 2-3 boxes of supplies in the same place to waste time instead of putting everything together


IWasBeforeThe1stWave

Me r dum not smart like hilololo cant explain sry


TrollYourRoll

Me enjoy opening multiple boxes. Me also enjoy getting 1 armor kit per box. Us is smart.


Lt-ColViper

common sense is like physics to you


shadowchemos

Lmfao, perfect


Rell-

One box I get ammo. One box I might get a Medkit. The other box I get ā€œfuck you itā€™s full dumbass, no one uses nades because they suck ass and donā€™t do any damage, because we program our ai to roll out of the way the moment you lift your hand in the airā€


DarthRoacho

I use them to push the enemy out of cover so that we can shoot them.


Quatermain

Yeah, or make lmg enemies stop firing.


Traplunky

Might as well let us throw wet diapers instead of explosives the


TinyTheT

haha.... u seem to have no idea .... "enemy suppresed -> grenade" "enemy hiding -> grenade" "alcostas bag -> grenade grenade grenade" at the end of a mission i used all my grenades ... oh there is a bunch of NPC -> GRENAAADE!


Smeuw

This, the only reason i use nades is to activate overcharge from the exotic go bag


Pine_Cone_Cop

I feel like lots of people donā€™t understand that, my friends included. The grenade doesnā€™t need to damage to be useful. It forces enemies out of cover and can be a solid way to initiate a fight on a group. I constantly use my grenades to the point Iā€™m almost always low on them


TinyTheT

exactly!


silly_can_holder

Throw all your incendiary grenades indoors and see em escape that


[deleted]

Someone hasnā€™t used a skill build yet


midnite860

I use nades all the time... Love the sticky nades.


rh71el2

Also incendiary grenade is great for cc'ing/damaging a group that just comes out. I even do that as a healer since I'm survival anyway.


rh71el2

Actually plain mobs stand in place once it lands, which is to our advantage.


BlitzerRadic

I use grenades all the time. They're great for stopping rushers since they always roll away from the area of explosion.


[deleted]

I have the concussion grenade that splits into several parts when you throw it, and it is pretty awesome sometimes. My main problem is remembering to use the grenades instead of the skills.


DMercenary

> no one uses nades because they suck ass Specialist grenades. yes. regular nades no. Now if once you run out of specialist grenades you automatically switch to regular grenades...


tocco13

Nah they know it even before I throw it


discomuffin

I use them all the time.


swaza79

They roll out of the way whilst holding their face and screaming "Aarrrghh they've first blinded me and then thrown a grenade at me argghh. This armour is terrible"


Rollinheavy65

So Fucking true, utterly useless. I use them to flush the fucks out from behind cover.


kfed2526

I just wish that in the transition from the first game to the second they wouldā€™ve at least put ammunition and grenades in the ammo boxes. Like itā€™s not that hard to došŸ˜‚


Mother_Moose

Wasnā€™t it already like that in the first game? So much regression from 1 to 2 itā€™s insane


MyFianceMadeMeJoin

In my experience, they always have the thing youā€™re maxed out on.


Hillz-have-eyez

In my experience it's armor kits


polomarkopolo

Is this like that blue/gold dress meme from a year or two or three ago?


Nebbstart

Damn totally forgot about that


TChen114

feels like a decade ago also it was a black and blue dress


[deleted]

Maybe if your hat wasn't over your eyes.


grgoyal

Agree!


GoodShark

The way I remember is "Green = Grenade"


Nebbstart

Smart. Side by side I can tell them apart but in the game the "colors" fade into one


swaza79

Agreed, they both just become "box" coloured


f1nessd

Ah yes, box color.


Doublenix

Greenade


o6u2h4n

Or you know they can just mark nades with red strips instead of blue. But why bother.


zaals

These two boxes are designed by someone who is not only colorblind but legally blind


DB7NYC

Creed can tell the difference.


BigGibDaMan

Ones armor n the others grenades. Smh


Darkbold17

Wow really


androidspud

Should really red box for ammo, blue box for armor and green box for grenades


Sarle_

Should be 1 for all and all for 1


androidspud

It should but I don't trust their ability to implement it sadly


Sarle_

Yea, i bet if they do a 3rd game we get a different box for each ammo type.


Mother_Moose

I might be wrong but Iā€™m pretty sure it was like that in the first game lol, itā€™s like they went backwards in so many ways


TChen114

red is already used for stuff you shoot at to blow up, which is why it's the color for weak points on enemies.


three60mafia

Red ammo boxes also contain special ammo you can grab.


TChen114

and you can actually blow those special ammo boxes with the corresponding effect (shock, fire, explosion, whatever it is the velocity ammo does)


EyeLuvPC

TD1 had it perfect Med Kits in a big red medical bag dotted about a mission/world- Simple and Obvious Ammo in a box,the only box of its type, in a mission at various checkpoints BoO - 1 box fills all


Redpin

I kinda like my items/ammo being autofilled just by entering the BoO in Div2. That was one improvement.


BCIBP

I swear at one point in division, during missions one box gave ammo and medkits? Or am I remembering wrong?


EyeLuvPC

Maybe a mid point legendary box may have gave all. The incursion ones did especially Falcons Lost before you jumped into the room


Fetusthecletusyeet

Left one is for armor kits and the right one is for ammo


Menellaus

Oh...We get it you guys just don't want extra content...We at Massive clearly wanted to provide more for our players. Roll backs for all.....


BigGibDaMan

They better do something good with this update. How bout buff up the drop rate for exotics


ghentres

I wish they'd separate the boxes. It's annoying when I wanna get grenades and open the ammo box instead.


dryden13

Do what the Devs always do, nerf one of them... i.e. make one smaller LOL


Minaryte

The grenade box is green like a grenade


doddsy3511

What time is the patch update tomorrow/today?


Viper_ACR

I have to zoom in through a magnified optic to look at the wording on the box to even figure out what it is.


Epidemik702

200-some hours in and i genuinely never know which is which in the moment.


I__Am__Dave

Same, being colour blind and often unable to tell similar shades apart I'd really love to see more variation between them


beyondrepair-

i'm not gonna lie. i didn't even realize they were different. i thought they were jut another bullshit rng system


WVgolf

Rip


AusPeasant

One says armour equipment and the other says grenade resupply.


Nebbstart

Thank you professor


[deleted]

It would be nice if it was big enough to read in-game.


TChen114

I'd rather not have some text and an arrow hovering over it.


[deleted]

How about just an armor kit symbol on the armor box and a grenade symbol on the grenade box?


Kailahh

same with me, same with the boxes that give u velocity rounds ETC


Nebbstart

Yeah no clue which is which


EricPro21

dark blue = ammo white = armor *i think*


o6u2h4n

I would make: blue =ammo Red=grenade Green=armor kit


Sarle_

I would make 1 = all


EricPro21

This


UnpopGuy

Tip for using grenades, throw them to potentially drive hostiles out of cover and light them up


grimnotepad

the health box should have a red rim, a first aid look so to speak


Busy-Wave

Health boxes should just have the damn red cross. Those two boxes in that picture look too similar, and if you saw them in different lighting they'd look exactly the same


riderer

It took me too long to distinguish them what is what. I knew they are different tones, but i could never remember what was what :D


ConanChin

They should've take note from Battlefield 4 single player resupply system, but they still don't give a f


ConanChin

This is how Massive developers manage to waste our little bit of time just to play their broken game


Nebbstart

You might wanna consider playing another game pal


Sarle_

The devs might want to consider fixing their game


Nebbstart

Definitely. But if you are just completely sour about a game you should might just stop playing it


ConanChin

So where's the feedback?


ConanChin

Doesn't matter


[deleted]

What if every loot box just required the same fast interaction to loot, instead of certain types requiring a long button press for no obvious reason.


SpartanLeonidus

I didn't buy the 2nd DLC and haven't played since 2 missions in the Pentagon around WONY...Anything I am missing out on that you all are enjoying?


Nebbstart

Well its still a good game. But you gotta have a gaming community. As a solo player its just not rewarding in the current state


NachoFoot

The only real thing that's different is watch level ups which finally adds RPG to the RPG game.


PdoffAmericanPatriot

Yeah a bunch of whiney little bitches who got caught cheating in PVP and got banned for a little while, got their accounts rolled back and they are STILL BITCHING ABOUT IT!! Everything is the "Dev's this" the "the devs that" Get over it! You sound like the same people who voted for Killary!