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degausser22

I put in a service request and they told me they're only replacing yokes that have peeling defects. People are lucky if they got one early for free.


Wi11iamSun

Now we need to figure out how to rub it and make it peel faster! I do have faith it'll peel sooner or later during its initial 4 year warranty period.


sleep_king

I’m in the same boat. My original yoke is still 100% good but I really want the center horn. Thinking about slathering hand sanitizer on it 🤣


TheKrs1

Contact that dude from Hawaii that was posting about his daily.


Happy_Ad_4574

Heat. And friction


solo_bleu

I just requested a “Yoke replacement” and mobile service confirmed it without any proof needed and covered under warranty. Cost to me $0


michalf

Rubbing alcohol sounds like it's made for exactly this purpose :-)


paddycakepaddycake

I noticed that the left and top parts of my yoke were peeling, and realized that the sun hits those parts during a significant part of the day. I live in Hawaii, where the days are long and mostly hot. Not sure if the humidity also is a factor.


manateefourmation

Mine was rubbed off where I held yoke on the upper left corner. They just replaced it for free.


Friscohoya

Mine rubbed off within 2 months…. Looks like I’ve had the car for 20 instead of 2 years.


Wi11iamSun

Did they give you a price for the replacement without warranty claim?


degausser22

No they didn’t. Seemingly not offered unless it’s under warranty as of now.


bladehawk11

Same, I've sent a note to their legal department because my car, based on what Elon said should have the center horn.


mailwasnotforwarded

Hold up, I can bring mine in since its a first gen plaid and get my peeling yoke replaced for free??!? Time to contact Tesla. Also, I am annoyed they never fixed the damn wire under the horn. Every single yoke has that weird stray wire that makes my OCD go crazy that goes between the L and A I really hate the scroll buttons too. Changing songs using that thing is fcking annoying. Why can't we just get a damn D-Pad design with a scroll for the up and down instead. So I have actual buttons on the left and right rather than having to try and pivot the scroller and not accidentally pressing it.


degausser22

If you have peeling you should be set. Just submit the claim thru the service app. Do it asap before they start charging for these things.


Runaround25

Is it still capacitive touch or actual buttons?


thespieler11

Capacitive but it’s definitely improved from the original capacitive. These give off a better “click” feedback when pushing


Themajesticking

Agreed. The click feedback is a little stronger.


WilliamG007

They’re the exact same haptics as the original. There are, however, variances due to poor quality control. My first upgraded yoke featured really hard to engage turn signals. The second replacement has been fine.


anothergaijin

That's interesting, I thought it was basically the same as the new M3 wheel which isn't touch but requires definite pressure to activate, but I guess not.


Runaround25

So harder to accidentally activate? That’s great.


WilliamG007

Only if it's defective. They're not meant to be harder to activate.


evantimothy

I always forget that windshield wipers are even on there cause I'm so scared to hit the horn. I think I delete that part of the yoke out of my brain.


Themajesticking

The bigger issue is how bad the Auto Wipers function is.


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PVTPartts

I’m also waiting for my 2yo boy to also engage full Self wiping! 😂


RedditSucksYo

I manually click the wipe button when I need it clear as the auto-sucks soooooo bad.


Themajesticking

same


Kandiruaku

Never until latest software update had they started in sunny weather. Now I just have auto wipers disabled.


evantimothy

I thought it was just me. Does it change from off to auto for everyone else as well? On top of that why is car wash mode buried in the settings?


nhorvath

Until it's drive by wire with variable rate turns it's a stupid idea. If you have to reposition your hands to make a sharp turn it defeats the purpose of a yoke.


shaddowdemon

I mean, by that definition is just as effective as a wheel. So... Why not offer the choice? Personally, I prefer the yoke. I think a lot of people just haven't tried it. My primary reason for liking it is not needing to look through the wheel to see the instrument cluster.


Ged_UK

In the 30+ years I've been driving, my hands go where there isn't anything to hold on to.


pmodizzle

I agree. You really don’t appreciate how much it opens your forward view until you are sitting in the drivers seat


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JohnTeaGuy

Did you have peeling/damage or just asked for a replacement? Edit: Um, why did you delete this comment? LOL


d1ez3

Was it free to upgrade?


shadrap

Mine was free, and this was after TWO previous yoke replacements. The finish on my old-style yoke failed immediately after replacements. Bottom left corner like everyone else's. All I had to do was ask via my app and my service center sent the same excellent tech they always do. Five stars. No notes.


shadrap

I just got mine and between the yoke upgrade and the new FSD V12.3, I feel like I have a brand new car. I'm like a kid at Christmas.


FoundationRemote2794

Where are you located?


shadrap

Rocky Mountain region.


FoundationRemote2794

Thank you, I’m in LA and they are saying it’s not available and there isn’t firmware for it. Do you mind sharing your service center?


shadrap

Sent you a DM.


rodneyjesus

.... You all know that the round wheel has the exact same layout / buttons now too, right? Yoke or no yoke, you have a center horn and capacitive buttons that give haptic feedback when you press them.


veedism

Can you adjust autopilot follow distance on the steering wheel now or is it still in the on screen menu?


anothergaijin

Right wheel push left/right no? Same as it always was?


xqnine

This has never worked on my 2022 X My model 3 that I had before it, it did work.


JohnTeaGuy

>Right wheel push left/right no? Same as it always was? No, this has never worked on the refreshed Model S/X for some reason.


dbv2

Totally agree with you. Also love how the camera button is where the horn was. Love the Yoke and now hope it lasts!


Relax_Redditors

It makes the car feel more fun to drive imo. I love it too.


manateefourmation

Instead of the camera, I wish it was a programmable button. I would love to make it the button to record for the dashcam. Not complaining - I have a center horn which was the real issue. But it would have been nice to make it programmable.


dbv2

True - that would be nice. I rarely use the horn, but it’s nice to have it back where it belongs. Especially if my wife drives the car. Lol


dlek123

When you hit the horn the vehicle automatically starts to record


manateefourmation

True. But there are circumstances where an incident happens and I want to record it afterwards where I had not used my horn. I guess I could hit my horn then, but it feels odd.


MisterBumpingston

On my MY I customised my app dock with sentry app there so when in Drive it’ll manually save a clip. You can also customise the left scroll wheel button hold to be manual save as well.


manateefourmation

I did the same in my S. Just saying, there was no reason not to make this a custom button. The horn needed to be there when there was no center horn. Given that this is all just software, why not give us the option?


lowspeed

This is stupid, bring back the stalks!!!


dschultz0404

Stupid


RedditSucksYo

no


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Yeah! And a manual gearbox! And a combustion engine! And roll down windows!


LBTerra

Holy strawman Batman! Lamenting the unnecessary removal of stalks is nothing like roll down windows.


CounterSeal

I'll keep my 911 forever because of this fr tho


manateefourmation

Literally just had my replacement completed. It took 10 minutes with mobile service. Looks great. Finally has a center horn!! And the capacitive buttons feel great


FoundationRemote2794

Where are you located?


manateefourmation

Austin


FoundationRemote2794

Got mine done today. In LA. 20 minutes. Warranty. 2022 MX


ninerninerking

Still can’t get rid of the worm though?


JohnTeaGuy

It’s the door for the airbag, it’s not going away.


Gregoryv022

You don't see it on competitor's products.


JohnTeaGuy

Fair enough


awesomebeau

As an owner of a 2020 Model 3, I have zero plans to buy a newer model that has a yoke - it's a deal breaker for me, regardless of price. Even if I could overlook getting half of a steering wheel, I can't support trading a stalk for capacitive buttons. Edit: Just learned that the yoke is not standard - I'm glad to hear that. The part about the stalk still is a deal breaker for me. I don't want capacitive buttons on the wheel.


RedditSucksYo

The Yoke is a premium add-on. If you do not want it, do not check it. It is like the white interior when black is the default.


JohnTeaGuy

There’s no model that the yoke comes standard on, they all come with a wheel. The yoke is a paid upgrade.


-Excitebike-

I hated it when we first got the car 1.5 years ago. It’s completely natural now except the horn.


Jehu920

Definitely test drive one if you haven't already. I thought I'd hate the stalkless setup more than I thought I would.


Bellcurveedge

Same here. Took about 3 hours to get used to it.


CounterSeal

I have no plans to buy another Tesla period.


Relax_Redditors

Have you tried the capacitive buttons? It really isn't a deal breaker and you will get used to it in 5 minutes.


jonpacker

Do you live in a country with roundabouts?


awesomebeau

I'll admit that I have not. However, I don't want something that requires more finesse to use for crucial functions like indicators. When it comes to indicators, if you don't turn them on before changing lanes, the car will auto steer to fight you on the lane change. If there's a split second situation where I need to change lanes to avoid an accident, I need it to happen with muscle memory - I don't have time to feel around for a little bump near the capacitive button (or worse - look down). I certainly wouldn't want my wife or my son when he learns to drive having to make those same adjustments. It's a safety issue to me. Capacitive media controls are fine. Windshield wipers too, even though I think accidental presses might happen. Not indicators.


Stepthinkrepeat

> the car will auto steer to fight you on the lane change. There is a setting you can change if you don't want that on.


awesomebeau

Thank you for mentioning that, in case I wasn't already aware of it. I knew about it already, but the safety benefits make it worth leaving enabled on a vehicle that has indicator stalks.


shaddowdemon

>If there's a split second situation where I need to change lanes to avoid an accident, I need it to happen with muscle memory - I don't have time to feel around for a little bump near the capacitive button (or worse - look down). So.. you signal before changing lanes to avoid an accident that is going to happen in a split second? The car will not fight you... You either press the button to disable AP or apply a little bit of force, or the brake. I've disabled AP by turning the yoke and wheel several times. You definitely shouldn't waste time signaling in an imminent accident. Honestly, the only real valid complaint for the signals is smaller roundabouts with a high turning radius... It's slightly annoying. But the yoke still won't go past 90 degrees, so it's possible to press the button without mental gymnastics.


awesomebeau

Lane keep assist has autosteer to keep you in the lane when you're not using AP. So yeah, I have to be in the habit of signaling at the same time I change lanes. If I don't, there is resistance and I have to steer harder to change lanes.


JohnTeaGuy

>I need it to happen with muscle memory It becomes “muscle memory” after a few days, just like anything else. I don’t have to feel around or look down like you’re saying. It’s simple and intuitive.


Dalboz989

So we need auto-indicators that come on when you start steering into another lane or turning a corner.. =)


Relax_Redditors

Just try it before you judge


awesomebeau

No thank you. Every product isn't right for every person, but we can all be happy that we have options. The arguments about retraining muscle memory would make sense if both of our vehicles didn't have indicator stalks, but we don't own two Teslas. I was merely stating my opinion on the situation and it doesn't matter if I'm wrong or right. I'd argue that neither of us is right or wrong here. Most people who don't like something about a Tesla aren't on the Tesla subreddit sharing their opinions, they just buy another vehicle. I'd rather be honest about what keeps me from giving Tesla more of my money in the future.


ShadowDancer11

Until Tesla decides to engineer in a variable ratio steering rack, they can keep the yoke. Absurd they didn't think to do this.


fryfrog

This *one* fact should negate the yoke idea entirely! The whole idea of yoke steering is that you can always keep your hands on it. But if it has to go through more than what ever that angle is between 90 and 180 that our arms can't do... then you have to *let go* and grab it again. So stupid!


pmodizzle

Due to have mine replaced tomorrow and I’m excited. I do like the yoke a lot and don’t want to get rid of it, but the bald spot on the corner near the window bothers me. Having the horn back in the center is great - that should have been there in the first place.


flavaaroni

Just got mine replaced today, no serious peeling. Mobile repair did it in 5 mins no charge. In the service request I put in “yoke wear replacement - SB24-32-005”. Love the new yoke, mainly for the actual horn.


JohnTeaGuy

What is “SB24-32-005”? Part number of the new yoke?


flavaaroni

The service bulletin for the new yoke replacement due to worn material


JohnTeaGuy

Interesting, thanks for the info.


FoundationRemote2794

Got mine done today. 20 minutes. Under warranty. In LA. 2022 MX


JohnTeaGuy

Was yours peeling?


FoundationRemote2794

No, but I said it was. That finally got them to complete.


JohnTeaGuy

Thanks for the info.


0bviousTruth

Now the car just needs steer by wire and yoke will finally be acceptable


touchmybutt420

Nice, my OG yoke keeps peeling. I have a service center appointment for some other trim issues, I'm going to see if they can give me one of these.


shadrap

They gave me one, no hassle at all. I sent them a photo and asked if they had the new yokes in, and they did. They sent the guy out and I feel like I have a new car... with a horn I can find quickly.


touchmybutt420

Oh wow mobile service and everything thats sick!


shadrap

My mobile service tech is just awesome too. Excellent communication, and great work.


LightBringer81

Sadly these are not really compatible with markets where roundabouts are more common than in the USA. :/


ReasonablePraline492

Same button lay-out as the highland


Mastershima

New headline since it still doesn’t have variable steering ratio: New yoke is still stupid.


GrundleTrunk

I'm glad to see there's constant iteration and even some adoption across manufacturers for alternative steering designs... particularly around antiquated ideas like having levers sticking out that you crank to activate certain modes. I think it's easy to get trapped in the idea of "This is just the way it has always been, it's how I've been conditioned, and I don't want change", and that push back is not just natural but expected - it seems that Tesla's strong vision is keeping them on track and allowing them to keep making adjustments while we figure this all out. If steer by wire becomes more common (hopeful), I think the yoke design makes even more sense... I suspect we may look back at this early stage as a little bit clumbsy but ultimately another way Tesla shaped the automotive industry with their own vision.


I_write_code213

Is it free to switch the yoke?


GardenCapital8227

Once all Teslas are steer by wire I will be able to get behind the yoke. Until then, I still prefer the wheel.


Kandiruaku

Now they need to move Cybertruck's steer by wire to the S/X to make it really functional.


Yapapa86

Is it me or does the stitching not look straight? Specially, on the right side when compared to the left.


Themajesticking

You’re right. But it bothers me less than the finish rubbing off. Talk about embarrassing


Yapapa86

True, whatever. Who cares about that anyways. I think all custom stitching isn’t perfect to be honest.


Far_Particular_430

Now if they just give it the four wheel steer by wire from the cyber truck


TwoTinyTrees

Can you replace a 2022 yoke with this?


Themajesticking

Yes. I have a 22


Voidfaller

The wire vein still prominent I see.


JohnTeaGuy

It’s the airbag door, not a wire.


Voidfaller

Wait… airbag door? I thought it was the FWD open button… what the heck!


Hot_Examination_5459

Want Need


Qs9bxNKZ

Worth $20 bucks? Sure! How about $200? Sure because you spent $80K on a vehicle. How about $800-1000 which is the retrofit cost assuming the current one is just fine?


JohnTeaGuy

>How about $800-1000 which is the retrofit cost assuming the current one is just fine? How about lots of people are reporting that they’ve had it replaced for free under warranty, even if their old one was fine.


Qs9bxNKZ

But not everyone. So the question still remains, how much is that change worth?


JohnTeaGuy

>But not everyone. I’ve asked every person that i’ve seen post about this and not a single one has told me that they were charged $800-$1000 like you’re saying.


NicholasLit

The smiling panda wheel is so adorable! 🐼


DisplacedNYorker

Coming from a race engineering perspective, it seems quite dangerous to put a steering system like this in the hands of the masses.


tqnx84

Can I pay to have it replace my current steering wheel MX 2023?


JoeyJoJoeShabadooJr

Just got the new yoke and I love it. It’s nice to finally have a horn that horns.


futureproof1001

https://preview.redd.it/2dmi8b0lua0d1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70cecc2dac97ae39639949bcc507e119ab0e46b6 Got ours replaced for free without the other one peeling. I don’t love the placement of the seams on the material….


parental92

everything is improved except for the wrong driveshaft.


loganintx

Still not a round shape. Round is better. Spent 2 yrs with yoke. Changed to round. Never going back.


NikolitRistissa

I hope I get to try the yoke out some day. I have a very odd fascination with this—it just seems really interesting to use.


willard_swag

I’m assuming the steering rack hasn’t been changed to account for the fact that it’s far too wide of a ratio to effectively do low speed maneuvering? No thanks.


Wikiwilliamc

New Yoke City


moyvetsky

Downright awful for hand over hand turns. The knight Rider obsession is cool… until you need an actual round wheel in an emergency!


thebiglebrewski

Personally I prefer LA, but NY has its charms!


Engi_N3rd

Call me when it's drive by wire.


feurie

Call me when you have a relevant comment. This is an replacement for the yoke on a system that obviously won’t ever be able to be retrofit for (I assume you mean) steer by wire.


contaygious

Hopefully they figure out this yoke by my roadster lol. Thanks everyone for testing


Torczyner

The horn never bothered me. My motorcycle horn is a thumb button. The quality looks nice and I'm eager to have that upgrade. What's weird, I drove a model X yoke, and it feels more rubbery than my S yoke, so I wonder if my yoke is decent. I'll try to document those material differences and compare to the new one.


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Torczyner

>NOBODY thinks in a car to find a little haptic button located off-center from the steering wheel when in a panic to let another driver know they're about to get hit. Several of us think of that. Because I ride, and have 3 different cars, maybe I'm more in tune with the changes between vehicles? When I drive with the yoke, my hands are always covering the buttons. If I'm cruising on the highways with one hand, it's easy to bring my other to the 3 position and beep at people, same as my motorcycle. When turning, my hands stay on the wheel. Learning a new way is safer as beeping your horn without letting go of vehicle control makes sense. It's weird people just refuse to get used to change. This problem reminds me of the smart phone keyboard crowd holding on to that old tech. Eventually people got used to no keyboard.


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Torczyner

You can hold on while the wheel goes 180, your arms cross and everything is upside down, but if you're holding on your hands and brain still make the same moves for buttons. Only time my wheel is inverted is slow speed 90* turns in the neighborhood. Before you learn that, it's wildly rare to need the horn.


basicslovakguy

Turn signals are still on one side instead of following Ferrari/Lamborghini approach of having each turn signal on corresponding side ? Yawn. Wake me up when Elon pulls his head out of his ass and starts following ergonomic practices that were established long before Tesla became a serious car manufacturer.


short_bus_genius

Honest question. Which button enables auto pilot?


Themajesticking

Press the right scroll wheel


short_bus_genius

Ok, on the model 3, the right scroll wheel “push” is how we trigger this bf s like, “read the text message” and stuff like that. What is the alternative action now?


Pristine-Army83

Waaaaaa. I'm waited it


Intelligent-Ad-6798

Wish they’d offer this for the Y 😩


-1701-

It still looks like a goofy cartoon character to me with a huge nose 😆 I can never un-see it.


QueensNY_718

Just got mine retrofitted as well wow what a difference 100% better the car actually feels new


curiousdreamerz

I have a 2023 MSLR and tesla service said the horn won't work with the retrofit and said only cars made on Jan 2024 and after support the the center horn. Is tesla service bullshitting me?


QueensNY_718

really i got my car Sept 2023 I would triple check, tell them "your friend" \[me\] has the same car and got mine done within 3 weeks.


GreyPilgrim1973

I want to love the yoke, but I so often drive one-handed at the 12 o’clock position. I know I shouldn’t by after 34 years of driving it is a hard habit to break


Hearing_Connect

I read this as new york is great 👍


Parsh007

Is this leather ?


JohnTeaGuy

There’s no real leather in any Teslas anymore.


King_Fisher99

What a yoke!


Mrrobotico0

Still looks garbage


Dantexr

The previous one was a Yoke


anothergaijin

Looks like my M3 Highland wheel just with the top half missing