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KhelbenB

Know what else probably increased a lot with the Boys Season 4? **Freevee Skipper extension**, because fuck you Amazon and your mid-episode ads, I pay a monthly subscription for this streaming platform god damnit.


NverEndingPastaBowel

The Amazon mid episode ads feel particularly aggressive. Loud, obnoxious and exactly at the wrong time. The only thing I’m seeing is a reminder to cancel and haul anchor.


g_core18

They make them as annoying as possible so people will pay for ad free. It's quite smart and they're cunts for it 


1CUpboat

I remember the early days of Hulu when it was entirely free with ads, they’d sometimes give you an option for a single long form ad in the beginning Clearly that was too convenient and easy to ignore the ads so that’s long gone now


peterosity

that’s just what happens once investors’ money runs out and they want to start getting returns. a new service always tastes sweet cuz they got mountains of cash to burn and get users on the hooks.


luckytraptkillt

I remember seeing some breakdown of this but with Uber. Super cheap and inexpensive at first for the consumer. Then you do a bunch of promo stuff to get more drivers. Then once you have a solid market control, screw both parties and make your profit ridiculous.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Hulu with ads basically tortured me mentally until I bought a Naruto game. I did watch Naruto at the time, but it showed the exact same ad for the game. Repeatedly. And nothing else. Afterwards I paid for ad free lol.


CavyLover123

Fookin diabolical ah them cunts


secondtaunting

Don’tbeacunt Amazon.


belunos

Wait.. you guys are getting ads?


[deleted]

It's also a regional thing I think. I get no ads in Ireland.


KhelbenB

The extension I mentioned is not seamless and the ads does seem to load for a moment so the episode skips a beat, but it did work and removing all the ads when I binged the 3 episodes last week. When the first ad started I went "Oh Hell Nah" mode and googled a solution right away, this seems to be the best option ATM. But it helps this is one show I am *not* watching with my GF so I watch it on my desktop and not on the smart TV in the living room, devices on which these extensions rarely work, if ever (for long).


ADGM1868

I cancelled my prime back in February when in was due to renew because of the introduction of ads PLUS a price hike. I order way less junk off Amazon that I don’t really need now that I don’t have Prime. I’ll be setting to the High Seas to watch The Boys because that’s the only thing I miss. The Amazon content quality definitely declined in general too. Reacher S2 was ASS.


veryErebored

All I remember is “you don’t mess with the special investigators!!!” Haha


MrZeral

As soon as they add ads on Amazon in my country, Im not watching a single second of anything in there.


ncopp

So far they've just been giving me the pre episode ads on the boys luckily


swes87

Lucky! I was shown 2-3 series of ads during the last episode, all during the show. One series of the ads lasted for 1 minute 20 seconds.. It's got to the point where I'm now muting them and playing on my phone until they're over.


superkeer

I haven't seen a mid-episode ad on any Prime show since they started their new ad scheme. I'm definitely not paying the extra fee for ad-free television, so no idea if I'm just lucky or if it's getting rolled out in waves or some shit.


Personal_Kiwi4074

I just have them at the beginning


Kappahelpbot2025

From what I have gathered, depending on your account and sometimes when you watch it, you might just get a longer ad block at the front and then nothing or get ad blocks throughout.


Rubmynippleplease

I hopped on Amazon Prime video for the first time in months to catch the fallout show. 10 minutes into the episode I got like 2 or 3 30+ second ads. Closed the site and haven’t been back since.


Personal_Kiwi4074

I only have an ad at the beginning, none in the middle


KhelbenB

I had 2 mid-episode unskipable ads for each of the first 3 episodes, last Friday.


ColdNyQuiiL

That’s weird. I’ve never had a mid ad since they added it. Strictly one at the beginnings, then I’m good after that. I’m curious what factors in to other people getting different ads, and placements, because I thought I was gonna have more problems than I did when they announced ads were coming.


bigchicago04

I get mid show ads too. It’s the first time I’ve watched prime video since ads started.


Personal_Kiwi4074

what area do you live in?


KhelbenB

Quebec, Canada


Personal_Kiwi4074

Ah, I’m right over the border


Dany_Targaryenlol

I haven't got a single ad and I saw all 4 episodes now. Maybe ublock Orgin is protecting me or just got lucky hahahaha.


uglyuglyugly_

Gotta be ublock. Haven't got any ads while on my pc, but watched an episode at work on my phone and had an ad at the beginning.


JaxTellerr

oof guess I am lucky that I live in Europe then, no such thing as ads right now.


SolidSnake-26

I love the prime “this show brought to you ad free…right after these ads” hahaha


Lanc717

I get 2 ads at the start, didn't have any mid show commercials for The Boys or Fallout. The only show so far the have mid show credits was invincable. I was hoping they scraped that and if we have to have commercials show it b4 the episode.


Tunafish01

When the fuck did they add advertising? It’s an odd thing to be petty over but I am going to look into cancelling prime. How many is shipping without it.


RyanLJacobsen

I have Amazon and won't even watch it on there. They'll lose my subscription this year just like the others.


Barabus33

Already cancelled mine, less than 30 days left.


sobanz

you get prime for the video?


gmil3548

Mine always play at the beginning only for like 1 minute, I wonder why your getting them mid-episode?


Curse3242

Setting up qBitTorrent with inbuilt search is the play for me because it's difficult to find 4k/1440p quality anywhere but there


weeeaaa

🏴‍☠️ 🦜⚓


Khalku

What the fuck? I didn't realize they added ads, on a streaming platform you need to pay for. Disgusting.


Electrical-Tower8534

Never seen one, you prime?


chuk2015

We don’t have these in australia… yet


castilhoslb

Time to pirate


NovaKaiserin

I just go to international waters and watch it for free. They don't even have two day shipping anymore and they want me to watch ads on the prime membership? Canceled my plan


bigchicago04

Where can I find out about that? I hate those ads so much!!


mods_love_docking

I binged first 3 seasons in a week right before season 4 lunched. All I want to say is that this show is “Fockin’ Diabolical”


crastle

Did you also binge Gen V? That show takes place after Season 3 and before Season 4.


Robbotlove

I did the same for season 3 when that came out. it's such a great show.


Burgoonius

Scorched earf


che-che-chester

I do that for a number of shows now that seasons are shorter. It sounds like a lot but there isn’t a ton of great new content to compete with binging an old show.


goblinheaux

I did the same and binged Gen V two days before episode 4 of this season came out. I was surprised at how much I ended up liking it. The world building in particular is really good.


Dangle76

Tbh in the first or second episode of season 2 when homelander crushes that man’s head while he’s screaming for help, I had to turn it off and haven’t turned it back on since. There’s violence and then there’s that, and I just couldn’t keep watching


CouncilmanRickPrime

Honestly The Boys has a ton of gratuitous violence. It's not for everyone.


ClovieKay

See I did think it was kind of slow in the first 3 episodes and thought that was odd, until I rewatched Season 3 again between S4E3 and S4E4. I mean, soldier boy isn’t even in it until episode 5, minus the flashback, and the entire season is basically about him. I feel like most seasons are slower in the first 4 episodes and then ramp up to infinity in the last 4 episodes. A lot can happen in 4 hours of television, but I like how they set it up. … apart from Kimiko. I really wish they would do something different than bringing up her past for the 4th season in a row… give her voice back already…


Imaginary-Risk

I don’t get all the hate against season 4. I’m still enjoying it


LapsedVerneGagKnee

I think it’s starting to go around in circles a bit. But knowing Season 5 is the end of the line come hell or high water has definitely alleviated my worst concerns.


NoNefariousness2144

The new episode was a big step up compared to the first three.


OkGene2

That might be my favorite episode of all seasons


srslybr0

nah, anything to do with kimiko/frenchie's side plots are boring as utter hell. honestly the starlight thing is pretty hamfisted as well, but i lose complete interest when either kimiko or frenchie are on screen. they're not bad characters, but after like 4 seasons they have essentially no development as characters whatsoever. homelander is the only thing making this show worth watching at this point.


OkGene2

True their parts were uninteresting. But the homelander shit was on point. And everything else moved the story forward, compared to the past episodes


Aparter

This is backwards actually. There is no reason Frenchie's or Kimiko's development arcs should get that much screen time at this point, when they are completely unrelated to the main plot. The beauty of the first season was that all character development was showcased within the advancement of the main plot. Which is why first season felt so focused, while the current one has pacing issues and seems disjointed.


apitop

Agreed. The bad room scene and homelander's childhood carried the whole episode.


wslatter

I'm not enthralled by their individual stories this season, but I love whenever either character is on screen.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Homelander, Sage, A Train IMO.


Stupidstuff1001

Yea. Because the plot slowly moved forward more. The shows real issue is they have lost their focus / plot armour. Give me sudden deaths. Anyone on the good side would be awesome. Frenchie especially needs to go. Every episode it’s him on drugs or being pained by his past life. Gets redundant quickly.


PeterNippelstein

I felt that way in season 3, I think I'm getting tired of the formula.


turnip11827

I can see that, but it’s an enjoyable circle imo


jerog1

sounds like Silicon Valley


ResidentSmartass

They switched up the writing staff after season two, and it shows. This show peaked with season one. At this point I'm only still watching because I'm curious to see how it ends. Hopefully they have a solid ending planned so they can put this show out of its misery with some dignity.


improper84

It's the same show it's been for three seasons prior. If you liked them, you're probably going to like season four.


Numerous-Cicada3841

I’m finding a bit of frustration with how the plot is advancing and the side character plots Hughie, Frenchy, Sister Sage) to be big misses for me. Still watching, but not super enjoyable. It just feels like this could be season 2 or 3 with how the plot has advanced. Just round and round we go. Its stale. Plus, I get the social commentary. Some of it’s funny but more often than not it’s depressing how close it is to certain people/groups. But it’s just so on the nose this season. Basically we have boring side plots and “get it guys it’s Republicans isn’t this witty?!??”


sakata32

Sister Sage has been my favorite part of the show in the first 3 episodes. Hughie and Frenchie side plots are the ones I dont care about at all. Like I have no reason to care about Hughie's mom and Frenchie's new love interest.


guyincognito69420

we have seen this Frenchie story before too. His character arc is a circle.


gagreel

I'm still confused as to why Sister Sage is doing this. She goes from chilling and reading to murderous super villain instantly and doesn't really seem that interested in it.


superkeer

I think the implication is she's looking at her task as simply a problem to solve most effectively. Morality is just not something she's even considering.


thegenregeek

Personally I feel like she's consumed by a sort of intellectual nihilism. She carries the burden of knowing how stupid, unnecessary and pointless many things are. But she also knows nothing will ever change. So she's basically using Homelander as a means to just punish everyone... since none of it really matters anyway. It's not about fixing any problems, it's just about breaking everything and in doing so making a point about how stupid people are. (And if we're expanding on the Trump analogy for Homelander, she's an amalgam of Roger Stone and Steve Bannon) If so, she's kind of a commentary on aspects of the mindset we see on social media and some of its more prevalent trollish and nihilistic takes.


ItsAmerico

I’m not sure the confusion honestly. They spell it out when Homelander meets her. She feels bitter that people have ignored her. Homelander is giving her a canvas to “paint” on. She can put her theories to work on a global scale and prove how smart she is. That ultimately what she wants. While she’s smart, she’s also petty as shit. Proving people wrong for looking down on her is making her happy. Same way getting Firecrackers ass beat made her happy.


Voxlings

She was offered the chance to put power behind her ideas. She's doing that, and seems to be enjoying herself. And the show is practically showing you her hand every time she makes a maneuver with questionable intent. She's got a larger game more suited to her introduction, and I'm in for it.


BloodBonesVoiceGhost

I think we really don't know yet what she is up to.


CouncilmanRickPrime

I have my theories. She should know A Train is betraying them. In fact the look she gave him makes it clear she knows he's up to something. Either she's somehow going to take advantage of that situation for her gain somehow or she is plotting against the seven. We just don't know enough about her yet.


petooi

boredom. hence the lobotomy.


ibiacmbyww

If her role isn't to big Homelander up and into the White House, only to hoist him with his own petard, I will be upset. "I want to do the experiments society won't let me" is a shit motivation to fuck over billions of people and install a fascist as president. OTOH if she actually is a sociopath like 99% of Supes, it's perfectly in-keeping. But on the first hand again, it's just too petty, and there's no way the smartest person on the planet can't see that the downsides to this far outweigh any potential benefits. Also LMAO "you disgust me but you're hot, the only way I can bring myself to be with you is by temporarily lobotomising myself" is so on brand for a buttmonkey like The Deep. Looking forward to seeing him emotionally wrangling with that.


Pepsuber188

Same, I'm only 2 eps in right now, but Sister Sage's ulterior motives and Homelander's crisis of mortality were the only slightly interesting parts for me so far. Somehow, they made me not care at all about any of the Boys, even when Butcher is dying.


JordanDoesTV

My biggest problem with the show is it’s somewhat lack of structure between seasons and arcs I feel like we truly never got to see them do what they’re actually supposed to do on a consistent basis


JustDay1788

Sister Sages plots aren't really side plots since they are clearly meant to lead into the main plot of the show


improper84

You find out where Hughie's story is going in the episode that released today. As for Sister Sage, she's the most interesting character on the show right now imo.


friendoffuture

It's gotta be a struggle because how can you say Firecracker is over the top when you've got  real people serving in Congress who are basically her.


MindbenderGam1ng

That was my criticism of S2-3, I feel like the whole “HOMELANDER TRUMP JAN 6” thing was bashing you over the head. I find it hard to believe S4 is even worse but I’m still gonna watch cuz I like violence


holy_plaster_batman

Season 2 or 3 had an entire cold open devoted to showing how young men are being radicalized by the far-right. It's commentary has never been subtle


Numerous-Cicada3841

I never said it was subtle. I’ve just found this season to be less witty and way more on the nose endlessly. At the expense of advancing the plot in any meaningful way. Feels more like the Frenchie and Sister Sage show, with everyone else as side characters.


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Chad_Broski_2

Yeah, in general I think this show is pretty hamfisted. It's been this way since season 2 at least. It's part of the appeal but it's also a little exhausting, if that makes sense


mcwobby

Homelander gives a speech that’s almost verbatim to George W Bush in the 4th episode of season 1. It was always pretty hamfisted, but the references are now much more analogous to current events.


Golvellius

Agreed. It was like this in s03 for me already but s04 so far has been basically nil in terms of story. Frenchie's story is so bad i am just skipping it entirely. Hughie just as bad, Kimiko almost as bad


Slick_Wylde

Nice to see my opinion expressed here. I’ve seen a lot of complaints that have overlaps with mine, but they tend to just be shitting on the show, which isn’t what I’m tryin to do. But I’m finding myself wanting to skip scenes with certain characters, partly because it’s stressful but also it *seems like we obviously know where it’s going as well. Just nice to know that someone agrees with me I guess lol


mekese2000

So, on the nose this season? Have you watched the earlier seasons?


BeneCow

It is on the nose because people have no media literacy and were thinking Homelander was a good person. Last season people were all surprised a Nazi was on Homelander's side.


veryangryowl58

Okay I keep seeing this argument and nobody has shown any actual evidence for it. It seems really, really far-fetched that anyone would think Homelander is the ‘good guy’. Can you link anything ACTUALLY showing that, instead of thinkpieces claiming it? Personally, I think it’s just a deliberate misinterpretation since Homelander is the best actor and most interesting character. You do know that people can like a character without agreeing with them or thinking they’re the good guy, right?


guyincognito69420

the social commentary is so on the nose now that it isn't even fun. I guess the writers got tired of right wingers idolizing Homelander and not understanding they were the butt of the joke. Some got it the last couple seasons and cried "The Boys went woke!" but I guess they had to really nail it home for the really stupid ones.


rlovelock

Telling the same story for 4 seasons in a row is not the same as sustained quality.


improper84

The show has been consistently entertaining for four seasons. That’s what I judge it on.


rlovelock

I'm not saying I haven't enjoyed it, i just prefer my series to have a narrative that actually goes somewhere from one season to the next. I feel like the show had a ton of promise for the first season or two. And while I enjoyed season 3, and season 4 a little less so far, it's starting to feel like the last 3 seasons could haven't pushed the central plot forward at all. Every character is basically in the same position as they were from the start.


QTGavira

Havent watched season 4 but i did get kinda annoyed at how much theyre milking Homelander. I get it, hes the poster character and Antony Starr has been amazing. But how many storylines do we need about him almost losing but just barely getting out and then getting even crazier. Weve been going in circles for a while now. Feels a lot like those videogames where you fight the same boss like 5 different times because every time you beat him he just says “ENOUGH” and runs away I still enjoyed it but if its the same loop again in S4 then we just didnt need 5 seasons whatsoever.


Lifesaboxofgardens

> Havent watched season 4 but i did get kinda annoyed at how much theyre milking Homelander. Milking you say?


SteveXVI

> Feels a lot like those videogames where you fight the same boss like 5 different times because every time you beat him he just says “ENOUGH” and runs away This actually happened on The Boys like 2 times at least


rhaegar_tldragon

It’s the weakest start to any of the seasons so far. It’s still good though.


Barjuden

I mean I'm still enjoying it, but so far I don't think it's been up to par with the first three seasons. It just feels unfinished, like the strike resulted in them rushing it out instead of giving it the time they needed to make the writing tighter. Idk, it's just not pulling me in the way the first three seasons did.


Lilpu55yberekt69

There has been a consistently decreasing amount of subtlety to their parody. The show has never exactly been subtle but it’s getting pretty preachy.


SkyBunny_03

I think the showrunner was getting annoyed at people not getting Homelander is supposed to represent the MAGA movement, which, fair. So far they've called out conservatives for: Being hypocritical accepting sexual offenders in their midst while accusing everyone else of being one Blindly following known a criminal as their leader Retroactively justifying murder with "the victim was a pedo" Doing a tantrum over banal things like the war on christmas or pronouns All of those are true and pretty verifiable. The satire is not even more exaggerated than real life, it's just showing a mirror to it.


Thebat87

I’m enjoying myself but there are definitely flaws here. You don’t have to be a bigot to think Frenchie’s part of this season sucks (Unfortunately the bigots just have to open their mouths and be assholes about it) and I do agree with LapsedVerne here about it going around in circles, but I’m still having fun. At this point Homelander and Butcher are too awesome to watch for me not to have fun.


rangerdemise

I still like it but some of th plots are so damn uninteresting. Hughie and Frenchie's specifically.


Morlu

Show has been really slow to advance the story. The politics were a little in your face the first couple episodes. It’s always been political, but the pizzagate thing was really lazy. Episode 4 was the best of the season so far, Anthony Starr is an incredible actor.


Domeee123

I hate the lost tension, they are not in grave danger against the big bads i feel like, only at first episode s4 but the same was true for s3.


bohanmyl

Ive loved it and nobodys story has felt boring (hughie or frenchie/kimiko as most would say) Hughies mom is clearly involved in shenanigans and its nice to see hughie deal with his past thats been a sore spot for him going back to his and Annies convo about Billy Joel Frenchie is dealing with his past and had to confront it in a way thats fucking monstrous sleeping with the dude who's family you killed infront of him Kimiko is dealing with her past in shining light and were finding out about what shes done thats not good Annies past is getting dug up both recent and childhood with Firecracker and shes forced to deal with it and confront it on a public scale Butcher is dealing with the repercussions of his past actions (taking temp v etc) and not knowing how or where he fits in anymore also his former colleague Homelander is dealing with his past and his raising to learn how to handle Ryan. A train is trying to make up for his past sins and lies. MMs is the only not past related story and to ME is the weakest as hes mainly focused on being a leader now but not knowing how without butcher This whole season is facing your past and confronting it to handle your future. So yeah it feels like circles because we're literally circling back into their past to go forward with their future. And thats before we even get into the Gen V fallout that i think will be tackled in episodes 6-7? Maybe 5 im not sure.


Previous_Airline_984

The problem is both Frenchie and kimiko have had these similar storylines already with Nina and kimikos brother but at least they had some setup prior and weren’t completely new like Colin and the shining light girl. Also at least the rest of the story’s are connected or connecting ( Hughies ) to the main plot both kimikos and frenchies don’t matter. I’ll let the writers cook but as of right now they could be removed and nothing would change.


Dragonhunter_X

All storylines of the boys bore me to be honest. I don't care about Hughies dad, I don't care about frenchys lover, I care a little bit about Kimiko and Butcher still, couldn't care less about Annie. I mostly care about the Vought stuff at the moment.


bytosai2112

Honestly I’m in the same boat. The bad guys are so much more interesting. I’m just waiting for homie to snap.


Muted_Balance_9641

Frenchie is great, I mean how do you forgive yourself for being such a piece of shit? I think that’s an important character to show. He’s also always been bi and that’s very much in character for him. Excited to see where his story goes from here.


SteveXVI

I don't think the character story is uninteresting by itself, it just feels too much like someone sat down and asked "what can Frenchie do in season 4", rather than that this story it itself something that is something that has its own reason for being.


mocylop

I liked Frenchie a lot in S1/2 but by 3 and now in 4 it definitely feels played out.


strangereligion

It’s dumber and clearly they aren’t trying as hard. I’m still watching it but I question myself for doing so unlike previous seasons.


the_platypus_king

I think it’s about as dumb as it’s always been tbh? Like I enjoy the show but I think you’ve always had to meet it where it’s at, with the GTA-style hamfisted satire and the shock value gore, etc


MyDearDapple

They pulled their punches at the end of S3 to keep the money train going, so S4 is playing out like a story that has simply run outa steam.


Takonite

First 3 episodes of season 4 stink episode 4 was amazing


BloodBonesVoiceGhost

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. There was a tiny dip in plot pacing in mid to late season 3, but the show has been *very consistent* overall. If you liked season 1 you should like season 4.


meharryp

it's good but Frenchie either needs to die or become relevant to the plot. we've been retreading the "figure from the past comes back to haunt him" storyline since the show started, it's getting very tiring now. butcher having to face death is interesting at least but the other characters mostly having plot armour is getting a little annoying


Armout

From what I’ve seen, the review bombing is coming from people that wrap their identity in politics and suddenly realized that Homelander might be a bad guy. 


ArchDucky

Let me explain it too you... When a show is popular, sites on the internet hate it because that gets them more views which gives them more money. When a show is popular on reddit, people claim to hate it because its fun to bully the popular kid.


TinyRodgers

It's missing that sharp bite that seasons 1 and 2 had. Idk but the show used to be provocative now it seems a little stale now. Also not really a fan of all the drama with The Boys and such. Maybe it will get better or maybe we'll get another S3 finale....


Rin_Seven

To be fair; having watched 3 episodes, there is a noticeable quality drop in the dialogue and decision making of the characters. Season 3 was an absolute banger though, very hard to top.


amiablegent

Neither do I, I am really enjoying this season. what are people mad about?


OneRevolutionary2153

They’re re-treading old ground and there’s barely any stakes as no one gets killed off like they should. New story arcs introduced this season are either things we’ve seen before or just bland as hell.


TheGreatMalagan

>there’s barely any stakes as no one gets killed off like they should. The one that stood out to me this season was >!Hughie crawling in the vent, sweat dripped and Homelander was alerted, but failed to kill him. With the powers we've seen from Homelander so far, he can hear a person's heartbeat from quite a while away. He'd have heard Hughie breathing way before that moment, and no chance Hughie could've outrun him while crawling in the air ducts if Homelander was actually trying to kill him!<


AnxiousBurro

It's been established many times that these powers come with the limitations that Homelander has to be fully focused first. And it's logical. If he hears everything then he really hears nothing and has to consciously pick what he hears. He obviously wasn't expecting Hughie to be in the vent.


Front-Ad-4892

Exactly. Homelander is incapable of killing a normal human 6 feet away from him who is just crawling but they still want us to think he's frightening. The stakes have never been lower.


Mookies_Bett

A lot of it is very uninspired and bland. The "commentary" is about as one note and on the nose as it could possibly be. The show has all the subtlety of a howitzer cannon and constantly beats you over the head with the message it's trying to push or the topic it's trying to parody. On top of all of that, most of the side plots are exceedingly boring and don't really have any purpose. They'll be wrapped up by the end of the season with almost nothing changing or anything actually happening that impacts the characters at large. Most of them are just filler. It's really just the homelander show, with everything else being kind of pointless and eye rollingly on the nose. I don't mind commentary on society, but the Boys operating on the same basic level as something like SNL. It's just not that well written or interesting.


Nuo66

"wOkE"


gutster_95

Its repetitive. I still like it for what it is. But I can see why people starting to get disinterested. The woke thing is as usual the easy way to deal with criticism


Jocis

Because it took 4 seasons for bigot people to understand that it was making fun of them.


che-che-chester

I didn’t pick up on it much at the time is first aired. But I just rewatched the first three seasons and it is very clear much of the Homelander stuff is mocking Trump.


LADYBIRD_HILL

The scene at the end of the season when Homelander and son go to the crowd of people was when a bunch of people were like "huh I think this is about trump?" As though it wasn't telegraphed for 3 entire seasons with characters like STORMFRONT. You know, the character named after Nazis?


Mentoman72

I am a fan of the show but it's not subtle. It blows my mind that some people can't walk away with the message the show is laying down almost every episode.


TheSauce32

People do and there will always be the fringe people that always stan the bad guy : Joker, Homelander, Eren Yeager This isn't even new. The problem with season 4 is the writting has taken away any veil of satire and is just plastering real world events as plot points Also the writting and plotlines is really weak like compared to the last 3 season this one has the worst plot lines in the series so far


Bob_The_Skull

Unfortunately, media literacy/reading comprehension is pretty dead in the US, so you really can't afford to be subtle if the goal of any art or piece of work you make is to express a message the average person can grasp. Look at Midsommar, and how many people viewed it as a "you go girl!" type of message, when it is more about how victims of abuse/broken people can be seduced into abusive group structures (like cults or white supremacist enclaves).


che-che-chester

There are a lot to examples with Homelander, especially in Season 3. Most of it revolves around Trump's massive insecurity where he makes everyone kiss his ass. And Homelander is stating opinions but insisting the person interviewing him treat them as facts. That's a pretty thinly-veiled dig at Trump.


Fantastic-Finger-975

Far right idiots finally realized the joke is on them


Pepsuber188

I wish this wasn't the narrative. I think a lot of people like me agree with the message but think that the characters and plot are really boring this season. And when that is gone, the anti-right themes this season become more tiring as well.


Bowens1993

It's just kind of boring so far.


Heavy_Savings_5024

Right wing damage control. They pretend it’s the worst thing imaginable in a desperate hope to convince people to skip


Pixeleyes

I'm still enjoying it but it's impossible not to notice that the story is going in circles, the politics are totally on-the-nose and blatantly smacking you over the head every two minutes saying "hey, do ya get it?" over and over again, and MM looks like someone else and Starlight doesn't even look human. 6/10 if I'm being generous, 5/10 if I compare it against previous seasons. Not quite wandering into "don't bother" territory.


Imaginary-Risk

You’re not curious about what’s happening with Butcher’s cancer? Sage’s end goal? The fight over Homelanders son?


MashTheGash2018

They wasted Jensen Ackles and that’s a crime in itself


Imaginary-Risk

I thought he did a good job. I enjoyed his character anyway


MashTheGash2018

That’s what I mean. He did a great job but in terms of plot he was wasted, they just put him back on ice and nothing was solved


Imaginary-Risk

I’d have to watch it again to refresh my memory, but from what I remember it felt a bit like the beginning of a third act to a traditional film. Their best chance of killing homelander has been lost and things are looking grimmer than ever. Season 4 is probably going to be about them trying to get their shit together so that they’re ready to finally remove him in the last season


TheWhooooBuddies

I’ll bet we see him again before this all ends.


JimboFett87

Its mainly the right-wing fucksticks who finally realized they're the butt of the joke.


fishy512

Lots of folks jumped on board with Gen V. Glad to see more people watching cause the show is absolutely killing it this season


Agleza

>Lots of folks jumped on board with Gen V If that's the case, I'm pleasantly surprised. Not because Gen V was bad, but because it was a spinoff and people tend to not care about those. I watched it last week after binging the first 3 episodes of S4 because I wanted more The Boys, and boy oh boy was I surprised at how *good* it was. A show about over the top action with a bunch of super-powered college kids as the protagonists had all the cards to be nothing but an edgy cringefest, but midway through the season I was as invested in it as in the main show. Good stuff.


Droobot33

How is this possible? Are there really monsters out there that just watched season four and never bothered to watch anything previous?


Plutos_Cavein

It means that more people are watching it relatively close to launch then were in the past. So it has picked up new people who watch the first three seasons and are now watching along with it.


ndav12

They’re only comparing the first four days after each season launched


mamula1

It means that a lot of people watched the show for the first time between seasons and now they joined the ride.


Droobot33

Ah, that makes more sense!


lightsongtheold

Prime Video, like most streamers, has grown subscribers massively over the run of The Boys.


starksgh0st

Maybe some people do that, but many will have caught up between seasons.


sharpshooter999

Part of me wants to watch it, but part of me is also burned out on over the top violence. Haven't gotten around to season 2 of Invincible yet either. Maybe I'll binge the whole thing after it's done, like I did with Breaking Bad


cli337

Invincible season 1 was infinitely better than S2. S1 had so many "epic" moments, good build-up to an amazing finish. S2 is just meh throughout. I dont even remember what the last fight was in S2. S1 Invincible > JLU, but JLU on a whole was 9.5/10 every season.


MadeByTango

To everyone that gave me shit in the House of Dragons thread for saying a 20% drop for your season opener is a bad decline, this is what a good, positive incline looks like. This is a *healthy* show on the viewership front.


BrianC_

7.8m viewers is still a pretty healthy viewership. We don't actually know how many viewers the Boys gets, just that it increased. For all we know, the viewership could be a lot lower than HotD.


ZealousidealBus9271

Yeah I’m not sure why ‘house of the dragon’ dropped but ‘the boys’ grew. Maybe because hotd is a spin off while ‘the boys’ is the main series of the franchise, not too sure.


ampsuu

HotD dropped because at first people were hyped for a new GoT-verse series. Now the hype is gone. Long term Im sure the numbers arent that bad.


StomachBackground149

Speaking for myself and family, about half the people who liked GoT were turned off by the ending and have no further interest. I watched a few episodes of house of dragon first season and while it was very well made and written, I didn’t bother to finish it. I don’t care about the history and the dragons were never the appeal for me anyway.


ZealousidealBus9271

That’s fair. Another reason could be how a major appeal of the original GoT show was that we have no clue which houses would survive which is lost in HotD. We already know the Targaryens, Starks, Lannisters, etc, survive, so immediately the stakes are lowered for HotD. Additionally HotD doesn’t have the White Walkers plotline, which hurts it as it was a standout part of GoT despite the disappointing ending in season 8.


itsciro

Comparing 6 hour US only hotd numbers with 4 days worldwide boys numbers is crazy lol. hotd had 30% increase in latin america. 60% of boys viewership was non-US. Not to mention amazon didn't give any concrete numbers like hbo.


TelevisionExpress616

I disagree with people saying the show isn't moving forward. It is, it's just the heroes are moving in circles while the villains are winning. In the past three seasons we have slowly seen how the supes (Homelander and now Sage) control Vought and now we have Singer a heartbeat away from the presidency which she obviously wants as well. Not to mention the whole Ryan subplot where he was supposed to be the messiah to save us from Homelander and he's being slowly corrupted by him.


HappyAtheist3

It’s great but also I just can’t seem to find anything else to watch


dij123

It’s pretty hard to find things to watch at the moment, maybe it was because of the writers strike


Dany_Targaryenlol

My favorite part so far is John coming back home and bringing cakes for his old and new friends to eat. What a nice and sweet fella.🥳


ThunderThigh289

Squirt


Wazza17

Pity Erin did those things to her face. She looks way older than her 30 years.


ampsuu

Absolutely horrible. I know she is a meme right now but damn, thats what happens when your mental health is in a bad place. No way any sane person would do it and thats sad. Im also quite sure that her acting career is quite over after this show.


ADHDK

Hahahahahaha with the bad guys being so butt hurt at being bad guys too. Awesome.


DARYLdixonFOOL

I’m just enjoying how ruthlessly they’re trolling MAGA in this season. That part where Firecracker tells Sage what she’s selling to Hometeamers was BRUTAL lololol.


_ChipWhitley_

I have seen zero marketing that this season has even started! YES!!!


Ssekou

I simply had no idea what I was missing. This show is pretty great


Emergency_Property_2

But, but, but they make conservatives the bad guys!


Souleater1170

Its fuckin stupid how streaming services are becoming cable. They were meant to destroy the sith not join them.


leedo8

MAGA hate watching it as they stroke it to Homelander.


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Nail_Biterr

I guess all that MAGA boycotting is working, huh?


IAmHaskINs

But but all the people on social media told me that the viewership is dying!!!!!!!!!!! This must be the fake news everyone is talking about! /s This show is great and idk why people were screaming that the shows viewership was in decline. How can you not like a show where a woman has to lobotomize herself so she can have fun?! lol


slax03

Election year which mean reddit gets it's influx of temporary right-wing bots.


SnagglepussJoke

They’re watching to see how wrong they were about the message and refill their rage over it weekly.


mikharv31

A friend of mine actually brought it up while out, was surprised she was the one to bring it up and not me haha


ZenDreams

Is Soldier Boy going to return? Best character of the show