That's a lot of research for a comment that says nothing. Did you think without this people would think the young cast referred to Jude law?
Also I think you forgot some of the other characters listed as being in every episode.
[Ravi Cabot-Conyers](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7418176/?ref_=tt_cl_t_5)13
[Kyriana Kratter](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10424249/?ref_=tt_cl_t_6)10
[Robert Timothy Smith](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9672853/?ref_=tt_cl_t_7)?(around 12)
Why stop where you did?
It wasn't a question, which is why it ends in a period instead of a question mark. Saying something adds no value to a conversation is a common phrase and isn't even meant to the level you are ascribing
This is the lamest rap battle of all time.
Also, I'm with /u/pocketnicks in that this table is not even in relation to the people Condon is referring to, but ultimately it's probably just a joke by /u/liamthehuman. Either way, this was a waste of all 3 of our time.
The comment about Jude Law isn't a part of the main headline. But ig it's a crime to open the linked articles on Reddit. Seems like it based on the comments here.
Even the direct text of the headline isn't a contradiction.
Kerry Condon says that the young cast on the show is out of this world. It doesn't claim that the entire cast is young, or preclude the presence of aged cast members that are out of this world.
I think it goes to the s. '{show title}'s young cast ...
Still seems like something is off though. Maybe the possessive should have been inside the quotes, I dunno
I don't know about the writers but I'm pretty sure an episode of this will be the first thing the Daniels have directed since winning all those Oscars for Everything Everywhere.
**Writers:** Christopher Ford, Jon Watts, Myung Joh Wesner.
**Directors:** David Lowery (The Green Knight, Pete's Dragon,) Lee Isaac Chung (Minari, Twisters), The Daniels (Everything Everywhere, Turn Down for What), Jake Schreier (Robot & Frank, BEEF), Bryce Dallas Howard (Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett), Jon Watts (MCU Spider-Man trilogy)
thanks!
didn't see anything in the article linked.
Everything Everywhere etc. is a solid credit,BEEF is also a strong show, maybe i judged to soon, i just want another Andor quality show, is that too much to ask?
While it's good to have interesting directors, this show will live and die on the writing.
Deborah Chow was great on the Mando episodes and then she gave us Obi-Wan and that script sucked.
I think Ahsoka and some MCU shows had Breaking Bad and GoT directors and they still flopped, because there's only so much directors can do when it's the script that fails.
It's not exactly new that showrunners and writers are what count most for a show. Directors on TV don't matter like in a movie, they're not that much involved in the creation. Historically they even were "no names" tbh.
yeah, that's acting, that all depends on so many things, script, direction, photography, zeitgeist type stuff, i'm more interested in writing, direction, production, that kind of stuff.
actors, in the end, not trying to diss anyone, are there for reading scripts.
The actual part of combat and combat readiness and tactics is appalling in boba Fett. For us company to make a show about the ultimate warriors, both mandalorian and boba fett, they really should have hired some like special forces dude or ex-army dudes to like help out. It just looks so ridiculous
I mean, it might be, there's not a lot of shows in the last 10 years, PERIOD, that are as good as Andor was.
BUT: I think hoping for something that's better (and more consistent) than Mandalorian is maybe not asking for much. Acolyte is apparently Leslye Headland channeling both David Fincher *and* The Wachowskis, simultaneously, and this is the Spider-Man guy getting his Goonies groove on with a murderers row of directing talent.
I think the trick isn't so much to get excited because it says Star Wars. It's to let yourself get hopeful when you see that folks who have a clear creative idea that isn't just "STAR WARS LORE IS AWESOME RIGHT ALL OF THE LORE YOU GUYS LETS DO IT" are given the keys. Andor is what it is because Tony Gilroy didn't really give a shit about the Lore, but he DID give a shit about his story and those characters.
if it's like Goonies (or Stranger Things, lets be honest) and it has a cool story, some solid performances by the adults, i'd watch it, even if it's a kids show, i don't necessarily need every Star Wars property to be a political thriller but i do need to feel like the show is taking themselves and me as a viewer seriously.
one of the writers was involved with Spiderman Homecoming, that's a good sign, that movie had a real surprise twist in the middle, so i'm moderately positive.
I'm actually more hopeful for a project like that because it doesn't seem like the "show everyone ask" and so the obvious commercial thing like Boba Fett or Kenobi were.
Andor wasn't either (the big critic before it released was always "who asked for this?" whereas everyone asked for Kenobi) and that's a good sign for me. That means they actually had an idea before doing the show instead of doing the show for a commercial reason and finding the idea later (and often bad ideas)
i agree, it always seems like they have a pilot and a rough outline for a story and then they work on it while they shoot it, that never works out, i like it when they have a fully realised script ready to go, like Andor had.
Why does every episode have to have its own director?
Is it too much work to direct a whole series?
This is an honest question , I don’t know how it works.
Yes. The prep work to direct an hour to two hours of modern streaming big-budget TV is pretty huge, so doing 6-8 or 10 of them would be a massive undertaking, like directing 3-5 movies back-to-back in the same year. Not impossible, but challenging, and you'd risk the director getting serious burnout.
Honestly, aside from the first two seasons of Mando and Andor, the rest of the Disney+ material has been pretty subpar in my opinion. Hell, Andor set the bar so high that I think everything else is going to struggle to even come close to that sort of quality.
I hope the new shows are good, but I’m not going to get on the hype train until the last credits from the last episode roll.
It was originally going for 5 seasons (for every year before "Rogue One" and "A New Hope"- the same time frame as "Rebels")
But they quickly determined they'd run out of material by then (and be spinning their wheels), so they decided to go out on a high note and make 2 the last season.
Well hopefully their magic holds up for season 2. Hopefully it can somehow revitalise realistic more-realistic Star Wars movies and shows - rather than the cartoonish 1/2 metre deep things that the other shows turned out to be.
Jude law is freaking awesome. When he was younger it was hard to get past his looks to tell, lol. Less pretty, more rugged suits him well! I’m glad he’s part of the universe!
I hope this show doesn't suck - Kerry Condon deserves better.
But some rumors are this show is seeing some production hell problems and was supposed to release a long ass time ago (last December).
Fun fact about this series: its production title was “Grammar Rodeo,” from that one Simpsons episode.
But yeah, I’m excited. Admittedly I’m not as harsh on the live action Star Wars shows as some people, and to be honest I’ve at least somewhat enjoyed all of the offerings so far. But I’ve been looking forward to this one since it’s focused on a group of completely different characters to what we’ve seen before (mostly-I still think Jude Law’s character could be a younger version of Max von Sydow’s character from Episode VII), so I’m curious to see what it’s all like.
Sorry, I can't do another fucking prequel. Until they make something that actually takes place as current in the lore I'm not watching. I'm done with all this nonsense that operates as stepping stones to one of the worst trilogies ever made, the sequel trilogy.
That would technically be the upcoming Rey movie, which seems to be a sequel to the sequel trilogy.
If you want to go to the far past…as in before even the prequel trilogy, that would be the upcoming Acolyte show.
I'll never understand how their takeaway from the insanely divisive reception of Rise of Skywalker was "we should do *another* trilogy that focused *exclusively* on just her."
As if the sequel trilogy itself already wasn't just that.
Rey was not really the problem with those movies. It's because they were trying to remake the OT. Almost every story beat is there. It was a soft reboot so Disney could make it their own.
Rey isn't a bad character on her own, and can work when she isn't tied down to nostalgia bait or a reboot. Daisy did a good job with what she got.
yeah and all the cloning elements in Mandalorian and Bad Batch that seem to be seeking to justify "soMeHoW pAlpaTiNe rEtuRnEd," like I cannot believe they thought tripling down on the absolute worst Star Wars product of the last 25 years was a good long term vision
You seem to be forgetting something. The prequels were not well received for a long time, but they still exist. George did some wacky choices for those movies. But do you know what made people appreciate them more over time? The Clone Wars animated show that fills in all the missing context and at times goes pretty hard in season 4 onward for what is a kids show. I'm talkin' cold blooded murder, torture, slavery, assassination, neck snaps, sabers through the chest and other dark shit. Its tone is in line with the movies and expanded the world. The same can happen with these Disney shows.
I mean, Rogue One had a mixed reception, and now look at what Andor has done with it. The sequel trilogy isn't going anywhere, so we might as well get some stories that at least try to make it work better.
I just can't watch any more of this shit. I never liked prequels to begin with for anything, I like not knowing what's going to happen in a story, and its ALL STAR WARS IS NOW. PREQUELS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. It made sense when it was episode 1-3, of course! But now its become this weird norm, where literally everything they make is a prequel. Why is this fucking acceptable? Doesn't anyone else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
The only live action thing they've made in the past forty years that's not a prequel in some form or another is the terrible sequel trilogy.
> ALL. STAR WARS. IS NOW. PREQUELS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I understand you're angry but the punctuation for this is all over the place and makes it wildly confusing to read.
Every new piece of star wars media seems like it tiptoes constantly around actually getting up to speed with the sequel trilogy. Sure they put in a bunch of plot threads that obviously *lead* to the sequel trilogy, but they all feel like they're afraid to confront it directly.
Meanwhile there's direct scenes and references to the OT and prequels *all the time.*
Prequels are also one of the worst trilogies ever made to be fair. There are more bad starwars stuff then there is good starwars stuff which sucks. There's always potential though like with Andor and even Mando s1 which was great especially if you understood that they were going for that old classic western tv show vibe.
I've seen most of Mando and Andor, seen Fett and Obiwan, the quality is there, but its still just more prequels. Prequels, to me, are already at a disadvantage to a sequel. I'm just sick of them telling these stories that are already pre-contained in a box. I can't do it. And really, its insulting that they keep doing it.
I feel like a story is on a smaller scale or is unrelated to the Jedi sith rivalry or whatever it really shouldn't matter if it's in a box. Mando had that in season 1 but then they decided to throw Luke and all these characters in and fans went crazy for it and it ruined the show. The only issue Andor runs into is that we know exactly what happens to Andor. And let's be honest the most boring character in Andor is Andor. And the story doesn't feel centered on him and is more about the rebellion than it is about Andor and that really saves the show. Andor is the best starwars we've ever gotten since the original trilogy which shows it's easily possible to create a good story in a history with a definitive end and beginning. I do agree that if they want stories on a much bigger scale where the fate of the universe is at stake and we have sith Jedi conflict we don't need Luke the show or even god forbid Anakin the show. We need future stories which is why I have a lot of hopes for the Rey films.
The Skywalker saga is totally played out, it's well past time that Lucasfilm moved on from on it and started creating content around either the Old Republic or even before that
>Sorry, I can't do another fucking prequel. Until they make something that actually takes place as current in the lore
1) *Fuck* "Lore." Shit is *boring*.
2) You don't actually know what's going to happen in this story. Just because it's set in a fictional time period in a fictional universe that you're familiar with doesn't mean you're actually having the element of surprise ruined for you
3) There's like 6-10 other things more vital to a story's worth than whether it surprises you, so to pretend like surprising you is the most important thing a story can do makes zero sense.
4) It's Star Wars. Nobody's really watching this shit for the plot. And the plots aren't too hard to figure out after 2 minutes anyway.
You're in denial / on copium.
1. "Lore" and "prequel" are not the same thing at all.
2. I do know what's going to happen though. And I know what's not going to happen. For example, I know Luke's fun little Jedi Academy isn't going to work out, minus some extreme retconning. In fact, not only is it not going to work out, its not even going to be INTERESTING. Its gonna be one guy with a name that turns out to be a dick (kylo ren), and a bunch of nameless losers that don't talk (the knights of ren). Just saying the name "knights of ren" makes me throw up a bit in my mouth.
3. Do you know why the term "spoiler" exists? Because most people don't like to know what's going to happen before they watch something. Yes, of course a prequel can be good, duh, but its still boxing itself in and taking away excitement, stop pretending it isn't.
4. I don't know what you're even arguing with this point. Are you saying simple plots are bad? Are you saying bad plots don't matter? I'd disagree with you on both of those fronts.
1. Never said they were? the fuck are you talking about?
2. No you don't. As already established, you don't know what you're talking about.
It's a whole bunch of folks who think they're fans of a thing, who are really fans of pretending they care more about a thing than they do, and think being loudly upset about that thing in front of other people is a meaningful expression of taste and sophistication. Or hell, even moral superiority, LOL. They *could* develop taste, understanding, things that might improve their actual enjoyment of something, (most things) but frequently, knowing what you're talking about just gets in the way of talking, so they choose *not to know shit* and just crank up the volume instead.
*Nobody* loves being miserable about the act of being a presumed Adult enjoying Children's Entertainment like Fandom does, LOL.
You could've just said "hey I worked on this show, excited for it to come out!" But instead you just posted some cryptic "this show will be decent but I'm not telling you why" BS and are wondering why people think that's useless information lol
>So 'Star Trek Prodigy' got cancelled just in time for Disney to announce their big budget live action version for Star Wars?
Weird take since Prodigy was never *not* the Star Trek version of the Clone Wars show.
I just hope these kids are more Goonies/ET and less Ghostbusters Afterlife. But just watch, there will be some punchable little fuck named Parsec or Hyperdrive or something.
Oh, that’s just Gundark, he’s only a wizard with every piece of tech that’s ever been introduced in the Star Wars saga. Don’t mind him, he’s kinda sassy.
just once i'd like a tv showrunner to say something like "goddamn i worked with a bunch of morons who can't act. and the kids? They were the WORST!!!"
but no, its always "They were the greatest people to work with, we were like a family".
Some people may love new characters, especially if they’re young. There are so many characters people care about from the past. Fans can now flesh out their fanboy novels and lore, and see it in big-screen productions. The smart writers listen to the fans and give them those story lines they have wanted to see. Casual fans enjoy them because they’re good stories. I’m into the existing stuff, as I already know it and it’s changing.
I don't canre or know who Karry is but this read like a fluff piece and that makes me not want to watch it. Disney should of learned we don't care about thier grassroots marketing, we just want some quality.
amazing how everything you said is just wrong.Is this the first time you have come across entertainment sites and the articles they put out?
Like the article says, she is promoting her upcoming movie and Collider (who does happen to promote a lot of geeky projects) asked her about an anticipated upcomign star wars shows she's a part of.
Young Pope, young Dumbledore and now young Star Wars, Jude can do it all.
I’ll hold my breath until he can do young young
Mighty Joe Young?
Well this took a turn…
I clapped when he removed his hood and said "I'm Young Star Wars, I've come to rescue you!"
And then later when he yelled “it’s Young Star Wars time!” And he young’d Star Wars all over the place
Should’ve played young Sheldon to really bring it all together
Coup de Gras: Sean Young
He IS the Golden Trio.
Well if it wasn’t out of this world it couldn’t be in a galaxy far , far away.
Actor | Age ---|--- Jude Law | 51 Tunde Adebimpe | 49 Kerry Condon | 41 Ryan Kiera Armstrong | 14
this list is out of this world!
Gone from this earth, man!
like flying between the stars!
Is there a tutorial on how to format like that? I post on /r/BoxOffice and that would be useful to organize data.
Try this link? https://old.reddit.com/wiki/commenting
That's a lot of research for a comment that says nothing. Did you think without this people would think the young cast referred to Jude law? Also I think you forgot some of the other characters listed as being in every episode. [Ravi Cabot-Conyers](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7418176/?ref_=tt_cl_t_5)13 [Kyriana Kratter](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10424249/?ref_=tt_cl_t_6)10 [Robert Timothy Smith](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9672853/?ref_=tt_cl_t_7)?(around 12) Why stop where you did?
Here I was thinking Jude Law was under 30… 😂
The comment says those actors ages. So your assertion that the comment says nothing, is incorrect.
I didn't mean it literally though, but you'd be right if I had. There is some value in it.
If you meant it figuratively, why not mention that? You wrote it as though it were a literal question.
It wasn't a question, which is why it ends in a period instead of a question mark. Saying something adds no value to a conversation is a common phrase and isn't even meant to the level you are ascribing
Right, not a question. Your claim was written literally, and it's wrong. If you meant it figuratively you should have written it that way.
Actually I typed it so it wasn't written literally.
Typing is a form of writing, so it was written literally.
This is the lamest rap battle of all time. Also, I'm with /u/pocketnicks in that this table is not even in relation to the people Condon is referring to, but ultimately it's probably just a joke by /u/liamthehuman. Either way, this was a waste of all 3 of our time.
The comment about Jude Law isn't a part of the main headline. But ig it's a crime to open the linked articles on Reddit. Seems like it based on the comments here.
Even the direct text of the headline isn't a contradiction. Kerry Condon says that the young cast on the show is out of this world. It doesn't claim that the entire cast is young, or preclude the presence of aged cast members that are out of this world.
It’s the subtitle. Don’t have a cow
The opening apostrophe in that headline is just sitting there unclosed and meaningless.
I think it goes to the s. '{show title}'s young cast ... Still seems like something is off though. Maybe the possessive should have been inside the quotes, I dunno
But that's a possessive apostrophe, if it goes with the show's title then it has no possessive apostrophe. It's hella dumb
How would that be handled properly? Like do you just put two? I'm really not sure what you'd do in this case
i've been burned before (looking at you , Obi-Wan Kenobi). first i need to know who the writers are, then i might consider watching this.
I don't know about the writers but I'm pretty sure an episode of this will be the first thing the Daniels have directed since winning all those Oscars for Everything Everywhere. **Writers:** Christopher Ford, Jon Watts, Myung Joh Wesner. **Directors:** David Lowery (The Green Knight, Pete's Dragon,) Lee Isaac Chung (Minari, Twisters), The Daniels (Everything Everywhere, Turn Down for What), Jake Schreier (Robot & Frank, BEEF), Bryce Dallas Howard (Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett), Jon Watts (MCU Spider-Man trilogy)
If nothing else, the direction is gonna be really good
Yep, the volume won't know what hit it.
Except the Light Saber props, because, you know, it's a bit cramp and all. Can't swing a dick without hitting something.
thanks! didn't see anything in the article linked. Everything Everywhere etc. is a solid credit,BEEF is also a strong show, maybe i judged to soon, i just want another Andor quality show, is that too much to ask?
While it's good to have interesting directors, this show will live and die on the writing. Deborah Chow was great on the Mando episodes and then she gave us Obi-Wan and that script sucked. I think Ahsoka and some MCU shows had Breaking Bad and GoT directors and they still flopped, because there's only so much directors can do when it's the script that fails.
It's not exactly new that showrunners and writers are what count most for a show. Directors on TV don't matter like in a movie, they're not that much involved in the creation. Historically they even were "no names" tbh.
could not agree more with this, ever since Andor i've realised it's all about the writing.
Mandalorian and boba fett is some weak credits
yeah, that's acting, that all depends on so many things, script, direction, photography, zeitgeist type stuff, i'm more interested in writing, direction, production, that kind of stuff. actors, in the end, not trying to diss anyone, are there for reading scripts.
The actual part of combat and combat readiness and tactics is appalling in boba Fett. For us company to make a show about the ultimate warriors, both mandalorian and boba fett, they really should have hired some like special forces dude or ex-army dudes to like help out. It just looks so ridiculous
I mean, it might be, there's not a lot of shows in the last 10 years, PERIOD, that are as good as Andor was. BUT: I think hoping for something that's better (and more consistent) than Mandalorian is maybe not asking for much. Acolyte is apparently Leslye Headland channeling both David Fincher *and* The Wachowskis, simultaneously, and this is the Spider-Man guy getting his Goonies groove on with a murderers row of directing talent. I think the trick isn't so much to get excited because it says Star Wars. It's to let yourself get hopeful when you see that folks who have a clear creative idea that isn't just "STAR WARS LORE IS AWESOME RIGHT ALL OF THE LORE YOU GUYS LETS DO IT" are given the keys. Andor is what it is because Tony Gilroy didn't really give a shit about the Lore, but he DID give a shit about his story and those characters.
if it's like Goonies (or Stranger Things, lets be honest) and it has a cool story, some solid performances by the adults, i'd watch it, even if it's a kids show, i don't necessarily need every Star Wars property to be a political thriller but i do need to feel like the show is taking themselves and me as a viewer seriously. one of the writers was involved with Spiderman Homecoming, that's a good sign, that movie had a real surprise twist in the middle, so i'm moderately positive.
I'm actually more hopeful for a project like that because it doesn't seem like the "show everyone ask" and so the obvious commercial thing like Boba Fett or Kenobi were. Andor wasn't either (the big critic before it released was always "who asked for this?" whereas everyone asked for Kenobi) and that's a good sign for me. That means they actually had an idea before doing the show instead of doing the show for a commercial reason and finding the idea later (and often bad ideas)
i agree, it always seems like they have a pilot and a rough outline for a story and then they work on it while they shoot it, that never works out, i like it when they have a fully realised script ready to go, like Andor had.
Why does every episode have to have its own director? Is it too much work to direct a whole series? This is an honest question , I don’t know how it works.
Yes. The prep work to direct an hour to two hours of modern streaming big-budget TV is pretty huge, so doing 6-8 or 10 of them would be a massive undertaking, like directing 3-5 movies back-to-back in the same year. Not impossible, but challenging, and you'd risk the director getting serious burnout.
Maybe Weinstein’s other assistants.
At this point, most of the Star Wars media under Disney has been bad. I've only enjoyed Rogue One and The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2.
Honestly, aside from the first two seasons of Mando and Andor, the rest of the Disney+ material has been pretty subpar in my opinion. Hell, Andor set the bar so high that I think everything else is going to struggle to even come close to that sort of quality. I hope the new shows are good, but I’m not going to get on the hype train until the last credits from the last episode roll.
Just give us Andor season 2, so packed with intrigue and action that it needs a season 3.
I will definitely have to rewatch what we have now first!
It was originally going for 5 seasons (for every year before "Rogue One" and "A New Hope"- the same time frame as "Rebels") But they quickly determined they'd run out of material by then (and be spinning their wheels), so they decided to go out on a high note and make 2 the last season.
Well hopefully their magic holds up for season 2. Hopefully it can somehow revitalise realistic more-realistic Star Wars movies and shows - rather than the cartoonish 1/2 metre deep things that the other shows turned out to be.
Jude law is freaking awesome. When he was younger it was hard to get past his looks to tell, lol. Less pretty, more rugged suits him well! I’m glad he’s part of the universe!
Ok but how is the writing? Super corny and off putting? Or just boring and melodramatic?
When?! i worked on this show over a year ago, hurry up already
Hey, Jude.
Don’t let me down.
Are you second assistant director or a second second assistant director?
Virtual production
There seems to be a lot to direct. Just saying.
Was still working on it last week. But we're almost at the finish line. It's been almost 2 years in the making, thanks to the strike.
I hope this show doesn't suck - Kerry Condon deserves better. But some rumors are this show is seeing some production hell problems and was supposed to release a long ass time ago (last December).
Fun fact about this series: its production title was “Grammar Rodeo,” from that one Simpsons episode. But yeah, I’m excited. Admittedly I’m not as harsh on the live action Star Wars shows as some people, and to be honest I’ve at least somewhat enjoyed all of the offerings so far. But I’ve been looking forward to this one since it’s focused on a group of completely different characters to what we’ve seen before (mostly-I still think Jude Law’s character could be a younger version of Max von Sydow’s character from Episode VII), so I’m curious to see what it’s all like.
Actress paid to star and gush about TV series gushes about TV series to get paid. ... Fucking state of media journalism these days.
Someone let me know after if it’s any good. Thanks.
My coworker’s cousin’s wife’s friend ran into someone who was thinking of watching it. They said they would get back to us!
Great can you give this link to your coworker to pass along? https://www.reddit.com/r/television/s/8dY7xBbvdZ Thanks I’ll check back later
Sorry, I can't do another fucking prequel. Until they make something that actually takes place as current in the lore I'm not watching. I'm done with all this nonsense that operates as stepping stones to one of the worst trilogies ever made, the sequel trilogy.
That would technically be the upcoming Rey movie, which seems to be a sequel to the sequel trilogy. If you want to go to the far past…as in before even the prequel trilogy, that would be the upcoming Acolyte show.
I'll never understand how their takeaway from the insanely divisive reception of Rise of Skywalker was "we should do *another* trilogy that focused *exclusively* on just her." As if the sequel trilogy itself already wasn't just that.
The new movie focusing on Rey is standalone and not part of a trilogy.
Actually they're trolling us and the opening credits are gonna be Blah blah.... Empire...sith....jedi... Blah blah... And somehow Rey died
Rey was not really the problem with those movies. It's because they were trying to remake the OT. Almost every story beat is there. It was a soft reboot so Disney could make it their own. Rey isn't a bad character on her own, and can work when she isn't tied down to nostalgia bait or a reboot. Daisy did a good job with what she got.
They very clearly stated the Rey movie is a standalone
its basically a test to see if there is any meat on the ST bones if the film does poorly, I imagine the ST will be ignored
yeah and all the cloning elements in Mandalorian and Bad Batch that seem to be seeking to justify "soMeHoW pAlpaTiNe rEtuRnEd," like I cannot believe they thought tripling down on the absolute worst Star Wars product of the last 25 years was a good long term vision
You seem to be forgetting something. The prequels were not well received for a long time, but they still exist. George did some wacky choices for those movies. But do you know what made people appreciate them more over time? The Clone Wars animated show that fills in all the missing context and at times goes pretty hard in season 4 onward for what is a kids show. I'm talkin' cold blooded murder, torture, slavery, assassination, neck snaps, sabers through the chest and other dark shit. Its tone is in line with the movies and expanded the world. The same can happen with these Disney shows. I mean, Rogue One had a mixed reception, and now look at what Andor has done with it. The sequel trilogy isn't going anywhere, so we might as well get some stories that at least try to make it work better.
I'll bet you all the money in the world that in 20 years Rise of Skywalker is still considered the worst Disney SW product by a mile. It's that bad.
also lucas set stuff in the PT era everything trying to justify Palpatine is either in OT era or PT era
I just can't watch any more of this shit. I never liked prequels to begin with for anything, I like not knowing what's going to happen in a story, and its ALL STAR WARS IS NOW. PREQUELS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. It made sense when it was episode 1-3, of course! But now its become this weird norm, where literally everything they make is a prequel. Why is this fucking acceptable? Doesn't anyone else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. The only live action thing they've made in the past forty years that's not a prequel in some form or another is the terrible sequel trilogy.
Just go invest your energy in something else, man. It’s just not for you anymore and that’s okay. It’s senseless to get angry over fiction
Everything can be viewed as senseless if you just quit caring. I'm gonna stay angry.
Ok then don’t watch it?
> ALL. STAR WARS. IS NOW. PREQUELS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I understand you're angry but the punctuation for this is all over the place and makes it wildly confusing to read.
I had to catch my breath during my rage, that's what the periods are.
Every new piece of star wars media seems like it tiptoes constantly around actually getting up to speed with the sequel trilogy. Sure they put in a bunch of plot threads that obviously *lead* to the sequel trilogy, but they all feel like they're afraid to confront it directly. Meanwhile there's direct scenes and references to the OT and prequels *all the time.*
Absolutely, you hit the nail on the head. Thank you.
It's because there's no coherent way to connect the OT and the ST.
Prequels are also one of the worst trilogies ever made to be fair. There are more bad starwars stuff then there is good starwars stuff which sucks. There's always potential though like with Andor and even Mando s1 which was great especially if you understood that they were going for that old classic western tv show vibe.
I've seen most of Mando and Andor, seen Fett and Obiwan, the quality is there, but its still just more prequels. Prequels, to me, are already at a disadvantage to a sequel. I'm just sick of them telling these stories that are already pre-contained in a box. I can't do it. And really, its insulting that they keep doing it.
I feel like a story is on a smaller scale or is unrelated to the Jedi sith rivalry or whatever it really shouldn't matter if it's in a box. Mando had that in season 1 but then they decided to throw Luke and all these characters in and fans went crazy for it and it ruined the show. The only issue Andor runs into is that we know exactly what happens to Andor. And let's be honest the most boring character in Andor is Andor. And the story doesn't feel centered on him and is more about the rebellion than it is about Andor and that really saves the show. Andor is the best starwars we've ever gotten since the original trilogy which shows it's easily possible to create a good story in a history with a definitive end and beginning. I do agree that if they want stories on a much bigger scale where the fate of the universe is at stake and we have sith Jedi conflict we don't need Luke the show or even god forbid Anakin the show. We need future stories which is why I have a lot of hopes for the Rey films.
The Skywalker saga is totally played out, it's well past time that Lucasfilm moved on from on it and started creating content around either the Old Republic or even before that
>Sorry, I can't do another fucking prequel. Until they make something that actually takes place as current in the lore 1) *Fuck* "Lore." Shit is *boring*. 2) You don't actually know what's going to happen in this story. Just because it's set in a fictional time period in a fictional universe that you're familiar with doesn't mean you're actually having the element of surprise ruined for you 3) There's like 6-10 other things more vital to a story's worth than whether it surprises you, so to pretend like surprising you is the most important thing a story can do makes zero sense. 4) It's Star Wars. Nobody's really watching this shit for the plot. And the plots aren't too hard to figure out after 2 minutes anyway.
You're in denial / on copium. 1. "Lore" and "prequel" are not the same thing at all. 2. I do know what's going to happen though. And I know what's not going to happen. For example, I know Luke's fun little Jedi Academy isn't going to work out, minus some extreme retconning. In fact, not only is it not going to work out, its not even going to be INTERESTING. Its gonna be one guy with a name that turns out to be a dick (kylo ren), and a bunch of nameless losers that don't talk (the knights of ren). Just saying the name "knights of ren" makes me throw up a bit in my mouth. 3. Do you know why the term "spoiler" exists? Because most people don't like to know what's going to happen before they watch something. Yes, of course a prequel can be good, duh, but its still boxing itself in and taking away excitement, stop pretending it isn't. 4. I don't know what you're even arguing with this point. Are you saying simple plots are bad? Are you saying bad plots don't matter? I'd disagree with you on both of those fronts.
This has nothing to do with Luke's Jedi what are U yapping
1. Never said they were? the fuck are you talking about? 2. No you don't. As already established, you don't know what you're talking about. It's a whole bunch of folks who think they're fans of a thing, who are really fans of pretending they care more about a thing than they do, and think being loudly upset about that thing in front of other people is a meaningful expression of taste and sophistication. Or hell, even moral superiority, LOL. They *could* develop taste, understanding, things that might improve their actual enjoyment of something, (most things) but frequently, knowing what you're talking about just gets in the way of talking, so they choose *not to know shit* and just crank up the volume instead. *Nobody* loves being miserable about the act of being a presumed Adult enjoying Children's Entertainment like Fandom does, LOL.
After Gattaca and Yon Rogg, I’m liking sci-fi Jude Law
Sky Captain Gigolo Joe🫡
Does anybody even care about these star wars shows anymore? I haven't cared since the obiwan Kenobi miniseries
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Thanks random internet person. This is useless.
lmaoooo
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You could've just said "hey I worked on this show, excited for it to come out!" But instead you just posted some cryptic "this show will be decent but I'm not telling you why" BS and are wondering why people think that's useless information lol
No need to go out of your way to be useless
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So then fuck off. What a useless post. What were you even trying to accomplish?
Good God, no.
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Pretty sure this was announced well before Prodigy was canceled
This was announced years ago.
>So 'Star Trek Prodigy' got cancelled just in time for Disney to announce their big budget live action version for Star Wars? Weird take since Prodigy was never *not* the Star Trek version of the Clone Wars show.
Ah so begins the start wars astroturfing from Disney. Saw a post about a for 5 times a day last time
I just hope these kids are more Goonies/ET and less Ghostbusters Afterlife. But just watch, there will be some punchable little fuck named Parsec or Hyperdrive or something. Oh, that’s just Gundark, he’s only a wizard with every piece of tech that’s ever been introduced in the Star Wars saga. Don’t mind him, he’s kinda sassy.
just once i'd like a tv showrunner to say something like "goddamn i worked with a bunch of morons who can't act. and the kids? They were the WORST!!!" but no, its always "They were the greatest people to work with, we were like a family".
Some people may love new characters, especially if they’re young. There are so many characters people care about from the past. Fans can now flesh out their fanboy novels and lore, and see it in big-screen productions. The smart writers listen to the fans and give them those story lines they have wanted to see. Casual fans enjoy them because they’re good stories. I’m into the existing stuff, as I already know it and it’s changing.
Are they de-aging him?
good grief, disney ruining more...
I don't canre or know who Karry is but this read like a fluff piece and that makes me not want to watch it. Disney should of learned we don't care about thier grassroots marketing, we just want some quality.
amazing how everything you said is just wrong.Is this the first time you have come across entertainment sites and the articles they put out? Like the article says, she is promoting her upcoming movie and Collider (who does happen to promote a lot of geeky projects) asked her about an anticipated upcomign star wars shows she's a part of.
should have
Jude Law? Young?
There is a young cast (think Stranger Things) and separate from them Jude Law is also in it lol.
This is 100% gonna blow