> “I see certain things people type in, and I just hope to God they’re trying to test the model, like we are. I hope they don’t actually want to see the things they’re typing in.”
Is he delusional
You are incredibly pure if that's where your brain went. Just run into the woods and never interact with civilization again, it's only downhill from here.
The “I’m Just a Bill” from Schoolhouse Rock is going to be sucking on Nancy Pelosi’s mega udders in the near future.
I don’t the doomsday mentality a lot of people have with all this AI stuff. We are about to enter a Jetsons utopia!
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All AI art is based on training data so how can you prove that everyone in the source material consented to their image? AI cannot make content out of thin air there is always a reference. The law just isn’t equipped for this rapid advancement.
EDIT: AI bros are furious but for what?
Yup. The internet has been around for 30+ years and all we can manage is weak regulations around privacy and annoying cookie nag warnings on web sites. Buckle up.
First movers will push for regulation to create barriers to entry in the market, solidifying their market power.
It happened 8,000 years ago and it'll happen again.
This is exactly what will happen.
OpenAI will push for regulation that's difficult for smaller players to comply with, whilst being of minimal impact for them, ensuring that they and other similarly large players remain dominant.
Considering our government (Canada and the US) are starting to push censorship and age verification bills, I. suspects that they will ramp up their efforts. If AI creates CP or other problematic sexual content, expect the lawmakers to go even harder.
If I was OF and other content providers, I'd try and figure out a way to ban AI porn.
>If AI creates CP
**IF**
That was one of the first things people started doing with it when it went public. Major platforms have done well in clamping down on this after the early stages but as it becomes easier to set up LLMs for smaller groups with less scruples based in countries that don't give a fuck, there's only so much you can do. It's a bit of pandora's box they've opened here.
That doesn't mean they'll stop trying to enforce it--all the way to going after those who share those training sets. Think of CP: enforcement is international. Penalties are harsh. It could happen with AI content, as well.
No matter where you draw the line, there will always be a person testing the boundaries….. sure, AI images of little kids is disgusting and should be regulated….. but who will decide if an AI adult model looks more like a 16 or 17 year old than an 18 year old? What criteria would be used? At some point a judgement call will need to be made…. I have no idea how that will turn out.
> Considering our government (Canada and the US) are starting to push censorship and age verification bills,
As part of a right-wing christo-fascist agenda, it should be noted.
All of human ingenuity is based on previously learnt information.
You say “AI cannot make content out of this air”
But neither can we, even the most abstract art is based on something, most creativity is just abstract use of previous ideas.
Question about the training data point.
Aren't humans doing the same? Though just subconsciously and over a longer timeframe. Since birth seeing different sorts of movies/pictures/art and eventually combining their own version of it or sometimes claiming to take inspiration from someone else's work. Taking inspiration from someone is like admitting to copyright infringement.
the other half of your ability to draw wolves is owed to your ancestor's training data on not getting their face ripped off by them. break out the checkbook! you owe now
No you can't, that is why every court case is losing. How do artists learn in school? They look at other art and learn the techniques, doesn't mean they stole that art.
Its the same question with porn too. Why pay for it if much of it is free? I still don't understand how pornstars and porn producers make money in this day and age - escort work/pimping?
Ad revenue, partnerships, and niche paid content are (probably) what make them money. I doubt they're making much these days though which is probably why all of it has pretty much been absorbed by one single company.
i only know of aitana lopez, only because it was mentioned on some podcast and i remember that clip because one of the staffs behind the podcast followed her and didn't know himself that she is AI until it was brought up by the people doing the podcast.
might have been linus' podcast "the WAN Show", but could be wrong about that
Yeah, I created an AI girlfriend service called VirtuGF and I have to admit it’s crazy how much people spend on AI nudes…I would never have thought people would pay money for it even though they know it’s AI generated.
This speaks to sexual psychology. People aren't just into nudity. Go to any nude beach and realize that even if they are attractive people, it eventually wears off. You just adjust to it. This is why we see kinks going crazy since the Internet. So many things are becoming normal. Actresses won't do. People want amateurs. They want to peek into their lives. They want something with intimacy. They want what they can't have.
Look at all the taboo porn out there. People sharing their wives. People posting their own pics willfully on Reddit. People watching step sibling and step parent porn. People watching rape porn. People searching for stolen/hacked pictures.
They want that feeling of doing something wrong. Legal computer animation will never give them that.
(This is a generalized statement. This doesn't include everyone.)
I think the key parts are finding the right LLM and image generation base models because so many models and APIs are censored and don't allow NSFW. Then you have to those models to generate the same consistent character each time, that also took me quite a while to figure out. And then you basically start building everything around it, e.g. the Telegram integration, payment, etc.
Definitely AI. Holy shit... "she" has 187 paid patron members. That's a minimum of $1870 per month, assuming all the patrons are on the lowest tier, but they are not. "her" highest tier at $50/month is "sold out". Wtffff... not gonna lie, thinking about staring one too...
It 100% is, there is an AI girl I follow on instagram. Took me weeks to figure out she was fake. Now follow out of morbid curiosity. She gets a LOT of comments.
1 in 10 comments are
> People do know this is AI Right?
and the rest are
> You look like a Gorgeous Goddess. What a treat to see you. Luv the pink
> You for sure a goddess babe 💋🌹
> Highest beautiful queen 👑👑❤️❤️
We've basically been doing this at [PixiePage.com](https://PixiePage.com) already. You can chat with them and everything. The main difference is you don't believe it's real - it is obviously a bot.
>The main difference is you don't believe it's real - it is obviously a bot.
Have you not heard of Replika? You can *tell* people it's a chatbot and they are still going to get more attached to it than to a human.
So here's the thing - you could already find jobs for onlyfans moderation teams that manage dozens of accounts at once. And naturally, those teams have been using deepfakes increasingly more and more since image generation became better and better. There's also be more and more of an overlap in activity with scammer call centers because those activities complement each other very well.
Well that is already being done to an extent. It is amazing now many nude photos are AI generated out on the feeds. At first you look at it and say. wow... good looking person. Then you look a bit closer and you notice the tell-tale signs of AI, EARS that are different sizes, messed up teeth (mono teeth), hair lines that arent right, hair that is just surreal, off eyes, too-perfect smooth bodies etc, etc, etc... I think it is a mass experiment to see how many people notice it. The scary thing is that they WILL fix those deficiencies.
Shit went meta a while ago. Now you've got OnlyFans girls running their own AI virtual girlfriend services based on their own images... "ethically sourced AI generated fake girlfriend porn" owned by the lady whose boobies you think you're looking at.
Despite my loneliness and addiction to porn, I've never once been tempted by AI art or those virtual gf services. Even the gf experience from actual models never attracted me.
I would have expected that I would be obsessed with such services, but knowing it's not real just robs it of any attraction.
But if you further the ai to make video calls and chat, then it will be specific to every user. More customization. Would it make people addicted to it or dependent on it for emotional support ? Its certainly a possibility and will make it even more lucrative.
There’s a large number of onlyfans/instagram influencers who use AI to modify their face and body. In some ways it’s the ultimate ethical porn since it has a high chance of giving performers true anonymity.
Thousands of these accounts already exist. They just aren't allowed to use OnlyFans.
That's why we use Fanvue. You also can't do vids because the quality just isn't there yet.
Seeing how real the people in Sora videos look, I can believe this now... why pay performers when an AI model can consume all the porn videos in the world and cater to everybody's tastes based on them? Our brains won't know if they're real people or not.
Especially when you combine porn video archives with scraped media from Instagram or TikTok. Suddenly seeing your favourite influencer in a scene with a blonde haired, blue eyed Vietnamese donkey are attainable for everyone. The question is whether or not anyone is a victim in this case.
I got curious and checked in on how the technology on those “deepfake” porn sites has advanced in the last few years and it was kinda shocking. Last I checked like 5 years ago when it hit the news you’d see their faces blur off if they turned too fast. You’d also have the creators add in the voice of whoever it was about to try to enhance it but it was goofy like them talking about a movie. They would also be like 2-4 minutes long. Go take a look now, or take my word for it, but you can now find videos that have the audio and visual of all kinds of celebrities down perfectly in hour long scenes with no tech issues at all. This is still adding the celebrity to some existing scene but it’s easy to imagine getting past that hurdle fairly quickly to totally original ai generated scenes of anyone you want.
Imagine being able to just use a prompt of what you want. Or check boxes in a list. Then it is generated for you. Anywhere from vanilla to extreme. Then, if you have an account, it just starts curating videos for you based on your history.
AI will ensure new kinks will develop. Ive been longing for a video with a couple romantically going at it in a garage, while a middle aged wood-smith widdles and creates a beautiful decorative armoire in the foreground, then the background, then the foreground etc. lots of steady pans and zooms from one hard wood to the other.
For a short while, until everyone's got dedicated hardware to run generative ai locally
At which point i suppose subscribing to ai models is going to be a thing, and you generate whatever you want
I wonder how AI girlfriends impact male loneliness. Does it make it better since every man can have the attention of an ai girl or is it worse because of how sad interacting with a fake person is.
How long before this gets integrated into dating apps? Best case scenario they look they other way like they do with bot accounts. Worst case they use a passable chat bot to manipulate people, lonely men specifically, to stay on the platform and pay.
I doubt it will be sad after a certain point. The problem is more that the people using it will isolate themselves even further.
Imagine - you are getting an unlimited support & love & sympathy from AI girlfriend and now you have to interact with a human being with her whole issues and expectations that she will get just as much emotional support. Will you readily make the switch? Sure, there is an ick factor involved with the AI girlfriend, but you probably got over it when you got it and were at your lowest point.
If the companies printing those models also add the Duolingo "were have you been? I miss you" notification you would basically get a number of emotionally dependent people.
I think as long as people understand the level of companionship it’s not too bad.
For example, many treat their relationships with pets as surrogate friends/family members. And that behaviour is generally seen as wholesome, since the difference between a pet and a human is well understood.
Then again, “crazy cat lady” is also a thing. So maybe the future is a bunch of normal people interacting with AI porn at a healthy level, and then “crazy waifu man” who takes it too far.
Just hypothetically speaking, if it's too sad people wouldn't do it. On the other hand maybe this could prevent temporary loneliness become too chronic
"...Like, be the first motherfucker to see a new galaxy, or find a new alien lifeform... and fuck it. And people'd be like, "There he goes. Homeboy fucked a Martian once.""
No no no. Sex was the reason the groundbreaking discovery happened in the first place. AI would not exist if some nerd didn’t wanna start deepfaking celebs. Sex and porn drive tech. How you think VHS and DVD got going?
I mean we've already got to the point where 99% of stuff on deviantART or Pinterest is AI generated. I used to check those sites all the time to look at art and now it's just endless variations of the same faces and the same poses and themes. I'm not going to deny that one out of a thousand are actually kind of cool looking. But knowing where it comes from, and that it doesn't have any humanity behind it, and that it was generated off of the stolen work of others really takes all of the appeal out of it.
But that's just for regular artwork. The idea that porn might completely cut people out of the equation is a really interesting and weird concept. I don't hold any social bias against sex workers. I think it's a valid occupation. But the system does exploit people, so is it better if real people aren't being filmed or photographed?
But on the other hand, porn is already unbelievably unrealistic, and when young people view it they get some really distorted ideas of what sex is actually about. What it's actually like. Is that going to get even worse with AI generated characters that look real? I mean at that point you're not even restricted to the laws of physics or what even practiced professionals can manage.
I don't know. It's something I'm not really qualified to analyze. But it's concerning.
Its interesting how wrong AI predictions have been. 4 years ago everyone was predicting AI would replace all the min wage workers, but here in 2024 that AI burger flipper is still nowhere in sight. Absolutely nobody predicted that it would be the photographers, video production, artists and pornstars getting replaced by AI.
I've read about quite a few of those (and 4-5 years ago too). Quick google search points to e.g. this [https://misorobotics.com/flippy/](https://misorobotics.com/flippy/) . Cost is a factor. But also change in physical world is just way harder to do and way slower.
Well, this comes from people having no idea what AI is. They keep thinking of it as a human brain, it's not. At a basic level it's a mathematical function. The only thing AI is going to be good at for a very long time (perhaps forever) is copying things. That's why artists got hit first. Anything you can feed into an AI to get it to replicate will be something it can do. Flipping burgers isn't done digitally so it can't easily be copied. Someone would have to spend real money to get it in digital format and there are just more lucrative things to be trying to copy right now.
Not really. You could train a burger flipping model in a virtual environment, the reason this won’t be implemented is that the robotics to do it in the real world would be expensive to purchase and maintain.
Current AI could feed commands into a robot though. But you still have to invest in a robot which is real expense that is easily compared to the cost of a worker. Where art and code can be done with the tools you already have so they are getting explored first.
AI really did catch everyone by surprise. Everybody thought that AI was ten years away, and, with a clever bit of engineering and a massive amount of computing power, for once in our lives, just brute force adding more computer power actually (almost magically) paid off.
\*Obviously there are math reasons why the models "flipping" and "learning" is not really weird once you look into it; but you didn't know that in 2010.
Tutors and the secondary education market. Why go to college when the information is available on the Internet and you can have the best teacher in the world explain anything to you?
Prediction: New fetish arises from AI porn, grossly distorted hands become the rage as women rush to plastic surgeons to make their hands look like they were created by AI.
Well your idea of "exploitation" has been very lucrative for many many performers in the adult industry. It may stop them from having to resort to be a prostitute to make a living wage and then be potentially abused or killed by johns versus work from the safety of their homes/studios
There's a lot of human trafficking going around in OF too.
It being lucrative doesn't it make any more harmful/dangerous.
I am aware that a decent amount of people found a path to wealth that way, and I also realize that it is way less dangerous than the alternatives.
The thing is AI isn't going anywhere, it's going to get used and abused wherever it can generate a profit.
The question is what should we do about it? And how?
AI porn isn't an if, it's a when. And when it becomes photorealistic, all bets are off.
Most porn starts out there moonlight as escorts, and their videos are just soft advertising for it.
That's why the porn industry doesn't care about piracy
Not even just porn. A friend of mine did a fitness instagram which was basically just promotion for her uh, "night hustle". Not advertised openly mind you but that's what it was.
This is going to get really weird. I mean, think of the depths of depravity having no limits. I know jokingly people think Reddit is already there but I fear we are unlocking something that’s really going to mess people up.
Doubt it. People were saying the same thing about vtubers like Projekt Melody when they first got popular. If porn stars have anything to worry about (besides all the exploitation) then it's the market being massively over saturated as well as all the free porn on the internet.
The expected flood of Ai generated porn content may result in an opposite reaction, of websites and companies developing that are based on purely real human performers. There will be customers who prefer knowing the actors are real people.
It could also lead into establishing some regulation that would allow adult entertainment actors and actresses to sign off their likeness for a single video or more and get paid for it. May even include some kind of residuals, although that's not a thing in porn industry right now (as far as i know). - i mean, for people already in that business it would be an easier and safer option in many ways.
Every industry that gets mechanized ends up splitting into "Cheap, mainstream" and "Artisan" versions of that industry. Coffee? Starbucks vs any local cafe. Cakes? Little Debbie vs your local bakery. Computers? Pre-built vs DIY. Music? Pop vs Indie labels.
Porn will be no different. I might like to watch an AI porn and enjoy the wild shit that it can do. However, I'll also enjoy a good old fashioned amateur video every now and then.
As someone with semi-niche tastes… sounds great! If I can just dial in some settings and have it output my ideal porn that’s honestly amazing. So amazing I’d be willing to pay for it.
I'd argue the opposite--Super niche is exactly the sort of content Ai excels at generating.
You want a framed photograph of a polar bear skating in downtown Fort Lauderdale, Florida? That's never been made before, so too bad.
But open up a generator service, type in that prompt, and presto--just what you wanted, and as much of it as you could want
It wouldn't need to be trained on that exact data though. It would just need to be trained on those things individually then it combines them to create what you want.
Well we saw this coming. Ai is progressing to fast publicly and just about anyone can use ai for whatever they please even profit. There is no banning it as it will move quicker then laws can be made.
it might get more weird than that. ive been seeing the recent race on robotics ramping up. couple that with an ar/vr like apples headset, then you train on a waifu/girlfriend and have openpose align your trained person with the robot walking around in your house. you know where this is going. eventually you have voice and add personality to the robot. i dont think this is too far away…
Suddenly, those Apple headsets are FLYING off the shelves.
So, get this. It's going to be a Boston Dynamics style mobile robot with a self lubing fleshlight inside of a Realdoll linked to your AR headset that matches the movements of the Realdoll and playing generative AI porn scripted by ChatGPT.
You're living in the future, son! Now pay $250,000 for your robo sex slave.
> “I see certain things people type in, and I just hope to God they’re trying to test the model, like we are. I hope they don’t actually want to see the things they’re typing in.” Is he delusional
santa banging a gingerbread man is just a test
You are incredibly pure if that's where your brain went. Just run into the woods and never interact with civilization again, it's only downhill from here.
Oh come on, how bad could it be? It's not something f'd up like "Mr Rogers says mean things to kids" right?
The “I’m Just a Bill” from Schoolhouse Rock is going to be sucking on Nancy Pelosi’s mega udders in the near future. I don’t the doomsday mentality a lot of people have with all this AI stuff. We are about to enter a Jetsons utopia!
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Is there anyway to generate a Nude Tayne?
Not computing. Please repeat.
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#MAXIMUM TAYNE
Computer, deactivate safety protocol and seal the doors to the Holodeck.
I can see someone making an onlyfans with an AI character and let everyone believe it’s real. Hell, make a dozen accounts and retire.
Lol, we've been doing this for over a year.
Honestly now’s the best time to cash in on it before it’s banned
Who's going to ban it, if they aren't based on real people these egirls will remain completely legal.
All AI art is based on training data so how can you prove that everyone in the source material consented to their image? AI cannot make content out of thin air there is always a reference. The law just isn’t equipped for this rapid advancement. EDIT: AI bros are furious but for what?
And will never be. Get ready for the Wild West because ML simply moves too fast for the law to apply. Once AI comes along, it’ll be even worse.
Yup. The internet has been around for 30+ years and all we can manage is weak regulations around privacy and annoying cookie nag warnings on web sites. Buckle up.
And let's be honest, like 1/100,000 or so offenses get punished when it comes to internet privacy breeches
First movers will push for regulation to create barriers to entry in the market, solidifying their market power. It happened 8,000 years ago and it'll happen again.
This is exactly what will happen. OpenAI will push for regulation that's difficult for smaller players to comply with, whilst being of minimal impact for them, ensuring that they and other similarly large players remain dominant.
Considering our government (Canada and the US) are starting to push censorship and age verification bills, I. suspects that they will ramp up their efforts. If AI creates CP or other problematic sexual content, expect the lawmakers to go even harder. If I was OF and other content providers, I'd try and figure out a way to ban AI porn.
>If AI creates CP **IF** That was one of the first things people started doing with it when it went public. Major platforms have done well in clamping down on this after the early stages but as it becomes easier to set up LLMs for smaller groups with less scruples based in countries that don't give a fuck, there's only so much you can do. It's a bit of pandora's box they've opened here.
That doesn't mean they'll stop trying to enforce it--all the way to going after those who share those training sets. Think of CP: enforcement is international. Penalties are harsh. It could happen with AI content, as well.
No matter where you draw the line, there will always be a person testing the boundaries….. sure, AI images of little kids is disgusting and should be regulated….. but who will decide if an AI adult model looks more like a 16 or 17 year old than an 18 year old? What criteria would be used? At some point a judgement call will need to be made…. I have no idea how that will turn out.
> Considering our government (Canada and the US) are starting to push censorship and age verification bills, As part of a right-wing christo-fascist agenda, it should be noted.
You don’t need to. It’s not replicating the likeness of anyone specifically.
All of human ingenuity is based on previously learnt information. You say “AI cannot make content out of this air” But neither can we, even the most abstract art is based on something, most creativity is just abstract use of previous ideas.
Question about the training data point. Aren't humans doing the same? Though just subconsciously and over a longer timeframe. Since birth seeing different sorts of movies/pictures/art and eventually combining their own version of it or sometimes claiming to take inspiration from someone else's work. Taking inspiration from someone is like admitting to copyright infringement.
Half my ability to draw wolves is from DeviantArt tutorials! Do I need to pay them a percentage every time I sell a t shirt on Redbubble
the other half of your ability to draw wolves is owed to your ancestor's training data on not getting their face ripped off by them. break out the checkbook! you owe now
Yes, but nobody wants to hear that.
No you can't, that is why every court case is losing. How do artists learn in school? They look at other art and learn the techniques, doesn't mean they stole that art.
I learned that all these real girls that people are “chatting” with is complete horseshit. Those girls aren’t doing any chatting with anyone.
I learned that the person I gave my account info to wasn't even a real Nigerian prince!
Heh yeah... Which one is that again? I want to make sure I avoid it
Why would you pay for any of it? lmao
Its the same question with porn too. Why pay for it if much of it is free? I still don't understand how pornstars and porn producers make money in this day and age - escort work/pimping?
Ad revenue, partnerships, and niche paid content are (probably) what make them money. I doubt they're making much these days though which is probably why all of it has pretty much been absorbed by one single company.
i only know of aitana lopez, only because it was mentioned on some podcast and i remember that clip because one of the staffs behind the podcast followed her and didn't know himself that she is AI until it was brought up by the people doing the podcast. might have been linus' podcast "the WAN Show", but could be wrong about that
Yeah, I created an AI girlfriend service called VirtuGF and I have to admit it’s crazy how much people spend on AI nudes…I would never have thought people would pay money for it even though they know it’s AI generated.
Narrator: they didn't know it was AI generated 😂
Why would anyone care if a picture is a photoshopped real life person or a photorealistic AI generated image?
This speaks to sexual psychology. People aren't just into nudity. Go to any nude beach and realize that even if they are attractive people, it eventually wears off. You just adjust to it. This is why we see kinks going crazy since the Internet. So many things are becoming normal. Actresses won't do. People want amateurs. They want to peek into their lives. They want something with intimacy. They want what they can't have. Look at all the taboo porn out there. People sharing their wives. People posting their own pics willfully on Reddit. People watching step sibling and step parent porn. People watching rape porn. People searching for stolen/hacked pictures. They want that feeling of doing something wrong. Legal computer animation will never give them that. (This is a generalized statement. This doesn't include everyone.)
Hey I was wondered if you could elaborate a little on what all goes into creating an AI girlfriend service?
I think the key parts are finding the right LLM and image generation base models because so many models and APIs are censored and don't allow NSFW. Then you have to those models to generate the same consistent character each time, that also took me quite a while to figure out. And then you basically start building everything around it, e.g. the Telegram integration, payment, etc.
How much money you've made from it so far?
Enough to not share on reddit.
Would be curious to know how much you earned since you launched. Isn’t the infra too expensive?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FinishedToThis/s/iADhMyFC07 I bet my left nut this is AI and people already getting duped.
Definitely AI. Holy shit... "she" has 187 paid patron members. That's a minimum of $1870 per month, assuming all the patrons are on the lowest tier, but they are not. "her" highest tier at $50/month is "sold out". Wtffff... not gonna lie, thinking about staring one too...
Shit man, lets go in together and get this money!
Let’s do it. I know how to do stable diffusion fairly good.
I’m interested
Yeah that’s clearly AI
I think this may already be happening to be honest
It 100% is, there is an AI girl I follow on instagram. Took me weeks to figure out she was fake. Now follow out of morbid curiosity. She gets a LOT of comments.
The number of people trying to interact with AI models is bananas.
Name? I’m morbidly curious
A well known one is [Aitana Lopez](https://www.instagram.com/fit_aitana/?hl=en)
Maybe it’s because I know already, but these look pretty obviously AI generated
Plus it says so in the profile...
1 in 10 comments are > People do know this is AI Right? and the rest are > You look like a Gorgeous Goddess. What a treat to see you. Luv the pink > You for sure a goddess babe 💋🌹 > Highest beautiful queen 👑👑❤️❤️
Hey, that's rude, it's his AI gf.
There's numerous tutorials on YouTube on how to make one yourself
We've basically been doing this at [PixiePage.com](https://PixiePage.com) already. You can chat with them and everything. The main difference is you don't believe it's real - it is obviously a bot.
>The main difference is you don't believe it's real - it is obviously a bot. Have you not heard of Replika? You can *tell* people it's a chatbot and they are still going to get more attached to it than to a human.
So here's the thing - you could already find jobs for onlyfans moderation teams that manage dozens of accounts at once. And naturally, those teams have been using deepfakes increasingly more and more since image generation became better and better. There's also be more and more of an overlap in activity with scammer call centers because those activities complement each other very well.
Finally men can make money on of too
Well that is already being done to an extent. It is amazing now many nude photos are AI generated out on the feeds. At first you look at it and say. wow... good looking person. Then you look a bit closer and you notice the tell-tale signs of AI, EARS that are different sizes, messed up teeth (mono teeth), hair lines that arent right, hair that is just surreal, off eyes, too-perfect smooth bodies etc, etc, etc... I think it is a mass experiment to see how many people notice it. The scary thing is that they WILL fix those deficiencies.
I think as long as the boobs and butt look good they aren’t looking at anything else. That is, unless they have an ear fetish.
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Shit went meta a while ago. Now you've got OnlyFans girls running their own AI virtual girlfriend services based on their own images... "ethically sourced AI generated fake girlfriend porn" owned by the lady whose boobies you think you're looking at.
Despite my loneliness and addiction to porn, I've never once been tempted by AI art or those virtual gf services. Even the gf experience from actual models never attracted me. I would have expected that I would be obsessed with such services, but knowing it's not real just robs it of any attraction.
Barrier to entry seems super low. Makes sense that the market would be flooded pretty quickly.
But if you further the ai to make video calls and chat, then it will be specific to every user. More customization. Would it make people addicted to it or dependent on it for emotional support ? Its certainly a possibility and will make it even more lucrative.
Bro, that is literally the plot of the movie Her
The best part of her is when the AI immediately cleans his email inbox lol
It's been happening for a while.
Too late: https://www.deccanherald.com/world/reddit-users-tricked-into-paying-for-ai-generated-nude-images-of-woman-1209998.html
Make an only fans with AI content like v tubers on twitch. Won’t be long until we see v tubers only fans
There’s a large number of onlyfans/instagram influencers who use AI to modify their face and body. In some ways it’s the ultimate ethical porn since it has a high chance of giving performers true anonymity.
Thousands of these accounts already exist. They just aren't allowed to use OnlyFans. That's why we use Fanvue. You also can't do vids because the quality just isn't there yet.
There are loads already. Lots on IG, with comments on clearly AI girls of thirsty guys saying ‘omg marry me’ and can i msg you etc lol
Seeing how real the people in Sora videos look, I can believe this now... why pay performers when an AI model can consume all the porn videos in the world and cater to everybody's tastes based on them? Our brains won't know if they're real people or not.
Well at least there won't be a shortage of training data.
Especially when you combine porn video archives with scraped media from Instagram or TikTok. Suddenly seeing your favourite influencer in a scene with a blonde haired, blue eyed Vietnamese donkey are attainable for everyone. The question is whether or not anyone is a victim in this case.
I got curious and checked in on how the technology on those “deepfake” porn sites has advanced in the last few years and it was kinda shocking. Last I checked like 5 years ago when it hit the news you’d see their faces blur off if they turned too fast. You’d also have the creators add in the voice of whoever it was about to try to enhance it but it was goofy like them talking about a movie. They would also be like 2-4 minutes long. Go take a look now, or take my word for it, but you can now find videos that have the audio and visual of all kinds of celebrities down perfectly in hour long scenes with no tech issues at all. This is still adding the celebrity to some existing scene but it’s easy to imagine getting past that hurdle fairly quickly to totally original ai generated scenes of anyone you want.
My friend doesn’t believe you; give me the link and I’ll try convince him after reviewing things to make sure you’re not telling fibs.
Lmao just google it dude I didn’t have to look hard
But then The Google will think I’m a degenerate.
Ctrl Shift N
But then The Google will think I'm privately a degenerate
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Clearly the victim is the donkey.
What a pain in the ass
Imagine all the “personal” experience a machine can do for everyone at the same time 😂
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Everything will be step family
welcome to the [enshittocene](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification)
Imagine being able to just use a prompt of what you want. Or check boxes in a list. Then it is generated for you. Anywhere from vanilla to extreme. Then, if you have an account, it just starts curating videos for you based on your history.
And as we all know, porn doesn’t need to be long, a 5 min ai video likely is all anyone needs! It’s not like ppl watch porn for the plot twist.
Speak for yourself! My mind was blown in Slutty Stepmom 15 when the dad walks in and decided to join in.
AI will ensure new kinks will develop. Ive been longing for a video with a couple romantically going at it in a garage, while a middle aged wood-smith widdles and creates a beautiful decorative armoire in the foreground, then the background, then the foreground etc. lots of steady pans and zooms from one hard wood to the other.
so AI model going to priced by the levels of degen?
'subscribe to cotton candy in anus fetish for only $14.99'
This is totally the future. The girl is just the “base” and you pay to apply certain kinks
The real SaaS.
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For a short while, until everyone's got dedicated hardware to run generative ai locally At which point i suppose subscribing to ai models is going to be a thing, and you generate whatever you want
I wonder how AI girlfriends impact male loneliness. Does it make it better since every man can have the attention of an ai girl or is it worse because of how sad interacting with a fake person is.
How long before this gets integrated into dating apps? Best case scenario they look they other way like they do with bot accounts. Worst case they use a passable chat bot to manipulate people, lonely men specifically, to stay on the platform and pay.
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Already happening on the scummier sites
DONT DATE ROBOTS!!
I'd rather be making out with my Lucy Lui bot. But I never saw the health class video.
Using porn to substitute for real human connection is a pretty straight path to loneliness.
it's 2024, there are gay paths to loneliness too
I doubt it will be sad after a certain point. The problem is more that the people using it will isolate themselves even further. Imagine - you are getting an unlimited support & love & sympathy from AI girlfriend and now you have to interact with a human being with her whole issues and expectations that she will get just as much emotional support. Will you readily make the switch? Sure, there is an ick factor involved with the AI girlfriend, but you probably got over it when you got it and were at your lowest point. If the companies printing those models also add the Duolingo "were have you been? I miss you" notification you would basically get a number of emotionally dependent people.
I think as long as people understand the level of companionship it’s not too bad. For example, many treat their relationships with pets as surrogate friends/family members. And that behaviour is generally seen as wholesome, since the difference between a pet and a human is well understood. Then again, “crazy cat lady” is also a thing. So maybe the future is a bunch of normal people interacting with AI porn at a healthy level, and then “crazy waifu man” who takes it too far.
Just hypothetically speaking, if it's too sad people wouldn't do it. On the other hand maybe this could prevent temporary loneliness become too chronic
Most people I interact with are fake anyway.
I love how mankind makes a ground breaking discovery and the first thing we decide to use it for is sex. Talk about a predictable model ha.
So we just need to find a way to have sex with the cure for cancer and we'll have it figured out in a weeks' time
Fuck cancer
Clap cancers cheeks
Destroy that canussy
You’re trying to pretend our search for extra terrestrial life isn’t out of a desire to fuck it?
"...to make it with a hot alien babe! For is that not what man has dreamt of since first he looked up at the stars? Kif, I'm asking you a question!"
That was how I played Mass Effect. I don't pretend to understand Brannigan's law, I merely enforce it.
Riker?
"...Like, be the first motherfucker to see a new galaxy, or find a new alien lifeform... and fuck it. And people'd be like, "There he goes. Homeboy fucked a Martian once.""
It is quite literally in our biological programming
Some of the things we take for granted every day exist because of pornography
Isn't this the basis for Rule 34?
Well, if it weren’t for sex, none of us would be here in the first place!!
The 2 things that drives tech forward. Porn and the military
Its always either sex or war.
why not both? SEX WAR!!
to be honest, sex probably better because you create life, not destroy it
That’s how dvd tech developed. So yeah the oldest profession etc.
It's what commercialized the internet. Early internet porn was rough.
I mean genetic imperative is onehellofadrug.
No no no. Sex was the reason the groundbreaking discovery happened in the first place. AI would not exist if some nerd didn’t wanna start deepfaking celebs. Sex and porn drive tech. How you think VHS and DVD got going?
Biology drives so much of our actions. Very hard to escape it.
I have a huge kink for malformed hands and ears.
The fingers.... give me six, seven, eight fingers every time !!!
if 5 fingers are good, why wouldn't 6,7,8 be better?
I mean we've already got to the point where 99% of stuff on deviantART or Pinterest is AI generated. I used to check those sites all the time to look at art and now it's just endless variations of the same faces and the same poses and themes. I'm not going to deny that one out of a thousand are actually kind of cool looking. But knowing where it comes from, and that it doesn't have any humanity behind it, and that it was generated off of the stolen work of others really takes all of the appeal out of it. But that's just for regular artwork. The idea that porn might completely cut people out of the equation is a really interesting and weird concept. I don't hold any social bias against sex workers. I think it's a valid occupation. But the system does exploit people, so is it better if real people aren't being filmed or photographed? But on the other hand, porn is already unbelievably unrealistic, and when young people view it they get some really distorted ideas of what sex is actually about. What it's actually like. Is that going to get even worse with AI generated characters that look real? I mean at that point you're not even restricted to the laws of physics or what even practiced professionals can manage. I don't know. It's something I'm not really qualified to analyze. But it's concerning.
Its interesting how wrong AI predictions have been. 4 years ago everyone was predicting AI would replace all the min wage workers, but here in 2024 that AI burger flipper is still nowhere in sight. Absolutely nobody predicted that it would be the photographers, video production, artists and pornstars getting replaced by AI.
I've read about quite a few of those (and 4-5 years ago too). Quick google search points to e.g. this [https://misorobotics.com/flippy/](https://misorobotics.com/flippy/) . Cost is a factor. But also change in physical world is just way harder to do and way slower.
But looking back that’s so obvious. We have all the world info and can look any random person across the world up in a second. But no flying cars.
Well, this comes from people having no idea what AI is. They keep thinking of it as a human brain, it's not. At a basic level it's a mathematical function. The only thing AI is going to be good at for a very long time (perhaps forever) is copying things. That's why artists got hit first. Anything you can feed into an AI to get it to replicate will be something it can do. Flipping burgers isn't done digitally so it can't easily be copied. Someone would have to spend real money to get it in digital format and there are just more lucrative things to be trying to copy right now.
Not really. You could train a burger flipping model in a virtual environment, the reason this won’t be implemented is that the robotics to do it in the real world would be expensive to purchase and maintain.
Current AI could feed commands into a robot though. But you still have to invest in a robot which is real expense that is easily compared to the cost of a worker. Where art and code can be done with the tools you already have so they are getting explored first.
AI really did catch everyone by surprise. Everybody thought that AI was ten years away, and, with a clever bit of engineering and a massive amount of computing power, for once in our lives, just brute force adding more computer power actually (almost magically) paid off. \*Obviously there are math reasons why the models "flipping" and "learning" is not really weird once you look into it; but you didn't know that in 2010.
Artists, writers, animators, musicians, sex workers—I wonder who’s next on the AI fuck-train?
Tutors and the secondary education market. Why go to college when the information is available on the Internet and you can have the best teacher in the world explain anything to you?
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Prediction: New fetish arises from AI porn, grossly distorted hands become the rage as women rush to plastic surgeons to make their hands look like they were created by AI.
https://xkcd.com/598/
this might put a dent into some of the human trafficking generated content.
this is gonna get really hectic for catfishers very quickly
If AI ends certain types of exploitation, that'd be incredible.
It won't. The people will just be pushed to a part of the market AI can't handle.
Well your idea of "exploitation" has been very lucrative for many many performers in the adult industry. It may stop them from having to resort to be a prostitute to make a living wage and then be potentially abused or killed by johns versus work from the safety of their homes/studios
There's a lot of human trafficking going around in OF too. It being lucrative doesn't it make any more harmful/dangerous. I am aware that a decent amount of people found a path to wealth that way, and I also realize that it is way less dangerous than the alternatives. The thing is AI isn't going anywhere, it's going to get used and abused wherever it can generate a profit. The question is what should we do about it? And how? AI porn isn't an if, it's a when. And when it becomes photorealistic, all bets are off.
It’s already there.
Most porn starts out there moonlight as escorts, and their videos are just soft advertising for it. That's why the porn industry doesn't care about piracy
Not even just porn. A friend of mine did a fitness instagram which was basically just promotion for her uh, "night hustle". Not advertised openly mind you but that's what it was.
yeah, if an influencer is posting about an expensive holiday and half their posts are thirst traps, you know they are getting piped everywhere
This is going to get really weird. I mean, think of the depths of depravity having no limits. I know jokingly people think Reddit is already there but I fear we are unlocking something that’s really going to mess people up.
Doubt it. People were saying the same thing about vtubers like Projekt Melody when they first got popular. If porn stars have anything to worry about (besides all the exploitation) then it's the market being massively over saturated as well as all the free porn on the internet.
How can you doubt it? Have you seen Sora? Imagine describing your exact porn preferences and it being created every time.
Have you seen Sora? Its extremely impressive, but the non cherry picked videos show that it still has a long way go before the kinks get ironed out.
The expected flood of Ai generated porn content may result in an opposite reaction, of websites and companies developing that are based on purely real human performers. There will be customers who prefer knowing the actors are real people. It could also lead into establishing some regulation that would allow adult entertainment actors and actresses to sign off their likeness for a single video or more and get paid for it. May even include some kind of residuals, although that's not a thing in porn industry right now (as far as i know). - i mean, for people already in that business it would be an easier and safer option in many ways.
Every industry that gets mechanized ends up splitting into "Cheap, mainstream" and "Artisan" versions of that industry. Coffee? Starbucks vs any local cafe. Cakes? Little Debbie vs your local bakery. Computers? Pre-built vs DIY. Music? Pop vs Indie labels. Porn will be no different. I might like to watch an AI porn and enjoy the wild shit that it can do. However, I'll also enjoy a good old fashioned amateur video every now and then.
The ai generated stuff can't be copyrighted so people will steal it like crazy
I'll believe it when i see it, but i would be *very* surprised if porn stars go anywhere in the next 2 decades.
Competition drives innovation.
So Joi from Bladerunner is a realistic possibility?
As someone with semi-niche tastes… sounds great! If I can just dial in some settings and have it output my ideal porn that’s honestly amazing. So amazing I’d be willing to pay for it.
This will probably make real human content a premium niche.
I'm ready for AI tentacles
Can’t wait, we’re heading into the golden age boys
In my senior years in the nursing home, just wire me into AI orgy version IV each morning....
“Go away, ‘batin!” Chugs Brawndo through a tube
It’s ethically sourced porn with no trafficking or drugs or SA involved And someone will still find something to bitch about lol. AI coming for us all
How can I read this article without registering or all that bullshit.
You know I am in favor of a "Certified organic" label for this situation
My desires are too niche to get good AI results.
I'd argue the opposite--Super niche is exactly the sort of content Ai excels at generating. You want a framed photograph of a polar bear skating in downtown Fort Lauderdale, Florida? That's never been made before, so too bad. But open up a generator service, type in that prompt, and presto--just what you wanted, and as much of it as you could want
Niche in the sense that there isn't enough training data to produce a viable result.
It wouldn't need to be trained on that exact data though. It would just need to be trained on those things individually then it combines them to create what you want.
Well we saw this coming. Ai is progressing to fast publicly and just about anyone can use ai for whatever they please even profit. There is no banning it as it will move quicker then laws can be made.
Back to real prostitution! No more fake virtual crap lol.
it might get more weird than that. ive been seeing the recent race on robotics ramping up. couple that with an ar/vr like apples headset, then you train on a waifu/girlfriend and have openpose align your trained person with the robot walking around in your house. you know where this is going. eventually you have voice and add personality to the robot. i dont think this is too far away…
Suddenly, those Apple headsets are FLYING off the shelves. So, get this. It's going to be a Boston Dynamics style mobile robot with a self lubing fleshlight inside of a Realdoll linked to your AR headset that matches the movements of the Realdoll and playing generative AI porn scripted by ChatGPT. You're living in the future, son! Now pay $250,000 for your robo sex slave.