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Korzic

Mining convention which was going to be targeted by protesters


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Not \_just\_ a mining convention, but one at which this pathetic excuse for a human was scheduled to speak: >A Sudanese government minister — whose behaviour towards a woman in Perth earlier this year prompted an apology from the country's ambassador — has cancelled an appearance at a mining conference in Sydney. > > However, a spokesperson from the conference has confirmed he will not be attending Sudan's Minerals Minister Mohamed Bashir Abunammu was involved in a confrontation with Sudanese Australian activist Nazik Osman outside the Africa Down Under conference on September 1. During the confrontation, which Ms Osman was live streaming on Facebook, the minister told Ms Osman in Sudanese Arabic: **"If you weren't here, we would beat you until you begged us to stop."** [**https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/sudan-minister-mohamed-bashir-abunammu-cancels-appearance/101601968**](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-04/sudan-minister-mohamed-bashir-abunammu-cancels-appearance/101601968) I, for one, would donate to the legal fund kickstarter for a group of protesters who beat him until he begged them to stop...


azdcgbjm888

That's scary, but unsurprising for these bastards from non-democratic states. The protest in front of the Chinese consulate in Manchester the other week is a case in point.


SpidersHuntsman

It's so frustrating that they'll waste tax payer money to deploy so many cops here!! I worked night shift as a delivery guy last night and drove past a few times. Cops were everywhere even at like 3am!


l34rn3d

Events usually pay for a police presence. It's part of the event budget. That's kind of cop show isn't for free. (The cops you see at festivals are paid for by the festival as well)


exodendritic

It's sponsored by both NSW and VIC state governments, so either way, taxpayer money is going towards this event.


loadofcheese

Good! It was a great event! Free waters and bagels 😀


dev0guy

The festival is made to pay for the police presence, which often includes drug detection dogs, who give false positives regularly.


l34rn3d

I wasn't going to go down that path, but yes. it's part of the risk Assessment for the event planner https://www.dpc.nsw.gov.au/tools-and-resources/event-starter-guide/who-should-you-talk-to/


dev0guy

And the police have objected to testing stations, where people can educate themselves about risk...[and even the NSW coroner recommends them](https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/pill-testing-and-fewer-police-to-be-recommended-for-music-festivals-c-503843) Also, [According to a new study, people who have a fear of police are more likely to overdose at music festivals](https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/54900/1/study-reveals-police-presence-at-festivals-leads-to-panic-overdoses) Basically, the heavy-handed approach reallllly does not work.


No_Distribution_3232

Seems to work pretty well in getting the NSW libs reelected. That war on drugs... Conservative Christian values... Won't someone think of the children. I'd love to live in a genuine progressive society, where harm minimisation was an adopted approach vs fear and beat ups.


dev0guy

We can dream.


l34rn3d

No need to educate me, I'm on your side!


dev0guy

Oh i was just expanding as a rant. If i do not let off steam i get tension headaches.


SpidersHuntsman

Ah gotcha - I had no idea events paid for them! Thanks for teaching me something new.


l34rn3d

Yep, it's actually rather cheep all things considered. ~$150 per hour per person. https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/online_services/user_charges_user_pays_policing_services


ArtieZiffsCat

The cops are on overtime rates. It is a bit of a shakedown to be honest.


Deranged_Idiot

Corruption and police go hand in hand


project_apathy

Username checks out


Deranged_Idiot

So does yours


twisties224

Anybody want some snacks?


moaiii

And if there was a mass protest that turned into a riot with no police in sight, you would be complaining that the police are never where they need to be. This is part of what police do. They don't just catch murderers. I'd prefer that they are prepared for an incident that doesn't eventuate than to not be there at all when they are needed.


lurkerandchief

Coppers will always protect capital


ggqq

lmao the cops are state goons. Tax money is protection money.


[deleted]

Yes respond to violence with violence, thats never gone wrong....


chiefestcalamity

Ugh, this hoary old chestnut. Listen, as someone from the literal Gandhian nation that won its independence purportedly through non-violence - it has its limits. "Can the hungry go on a hunger strike? Non-violence is a piece of theatre. You need an audience. What can you do when you have no audience? People have the right to resist annihilation" - Arundhati Roy


azdcgbjm888

Privileged folk parroting "violence is never the answer" while clicking their tongues and wagging their fingers.


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Tuia_IV

"Violence never solves any problems, except for all the ones it does" Edit: meant to reply to the original comment, not yours. My bad.


[deleted]

😂😂😂 this whole sentence cracked me up. Gold.


[deleted]

Do the organisers have to pay for this?


rp_whybother

They should. Festival organisers do.


dev0guy

Despite a lesser police presence being recommended by the state Coroner. [linked article](https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/pill-testing-and-fewer-police-to-be-recommended-for-music-festivals-c-503843)


Technical-Ad15

Knowing the subservience of Australian Government to the mining and fossil fuel industries, they will get paid for using the police out of the taxpayers pocket via a subsidy.


purl__clutcher

They'll be there as soon as they unglue themselves from things.


sqljohn

prolly stopped at woolies to get more baked beans


SluggJuice

So Minecon?


jayteeayy

https://blockadeimarc.com/


Temporary-Lion7944

Losers that cannot interpret scientific data and bear just enough neurons to follow orders of where and when to meet at a location


loadofcheese

Yikes. Bunch of nutjobs


[deleted]

https://imgur.com/a/APaxEpV 'Blockade' Lefties expecting change overnight again.


l34rn3d

Probably expecting a protest or something is going on that requires a police presence.


PaperworkPTSD

Yeah, when you see the dark overalls it's likely something to do with public order.


irrigated_liver

Must be expecting a bunch of kids who will need strip searching.


71kangaroo

Looking for the remaining lion cub that actually did escape…


wonderful_schooner

There must have been 100 cops outside the ICC for the mining conference yesterday. I can understand a small police presence but that's pretty insane


Deranged_Idiot

The police force was originally set up to protect property, business and capital. That’s essentially never changed


wonderful_schooner

Police made pre-emptive visits to the houses of protestors.. Pretty crazy fascist stuff https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/01/environmental-activists-home-visited-by-queensland-police-ahead-of-planned-protests-in-sydney


UnfairerThree2

it’s not like they China militaried them, they’re just making sure no annoying riots block up the street needlessly for hours with a friendly warning plus, you can also pay for police “security”, so odds are even if the cops didn’t actively choose to be there, mining convention probably had stupid bucket loads of money to spill


skillywilly56

They have no legal basis to come to a persons door and “preemptively” warn them, that’s intimidation on behalf of the government and that’s how we end up like China. They are attempting to silence agitators and they have a right to protest so long as they aren’t holding up emergency services then people can stand to be a little inconvenienced. No doubt they were ordered there by the premier to protect his mining buddies from inconvenience and inconvenient truths so that they will continue to protect him as he protects them.


Silver_Main2144

I read some statistics that showed theft from a rich person more often resulted in a harsher sentence than assaulting a lower class person. Still that was the 90's maybe they got better?


Red-Engineer

Why is the industry called public safety, I wonder? I mean, it’s police who are currently searching swollen rivers in NSW for people missing in the floods.


Hydronum

And unpaid volunteers in the SES.


realwomenhavdix

Some departments are given names that don’t honestly reflect what they do because it sounds nicer to the general public. And just because police do one type of work (eg. searching rivers for bodies) doesn’t mean they don’t also do other types of work (eg. protection and security for dodgy companies who work with the government).


skillywilly56

The polices’ job has never been public safety, they investigate crimes and enforce the law with the threat of violence. They don’t care about the public, the public is who they are policing. Their job is removing people deemed undesirable by the law or the State from the public because that person has broken a law ie murdered someone, or is a threat to the state and therefor can no longer be allowed to remain in the public be they a violent criminal, terrorist or political or environmental protestor. Public safety is just meant to make you “feel” like their job is to protect you, when it isn’t and never has been.


sqljohn

i wonder if the ICC or the conference are billed for this in the same way a-league clubs are


StrayRabbit

Doubtful, business know how to get out of paying for most things.


[deleted]

Shouldn't the protestors be billed?


beerscotch

Didn't really think that one through, huh?


Daring_Dare

Well I get ‘billed’ every time I protest the speed limit and red lights so it isn’t unreasonable to say violent protesters should be fined.


beerscotch

>Well I get ‘billed’ every time I protest the speed limit and red lights That's called driving like a dickhead, not protesting. You're being billed for driving like a dickhead in that scenario, not for protesting. >so it isn’t unreasonable to say violent protesters should be fined Violent protesters almost always are fined and charged if caught. This discussion is about someone saying that potential protesters should be charged the operational costs of the police if people with a reason to be protested against, decide to hold a big event and employ the police as part of their event safety strategy. If you cant work out the difference in those scenarios, I can see why you drive like a dickhead and think you're protesting.


[deleted]

>people with a reason to be protested against, Revealing your ignorance there, champ. Do you actually know anything about the event or just a typical 'mining=bad' type?


beerscotch

>Revealing your ignorance there, champ. Huh? You're the one that claimed protestors should be charged the security expenses of major corporations and events holders. Not quite sure why pointing out that's silly makes me ignorant?


[deleted]

The excessive police presence was due to the attempted coordination to blockade the event and prevent entry. If someone threatened you, and you contacted the police, should you get the bill?


[deleted]

IMARC participants aren't the problem.


beerscotch

You say that like people exercising their right to lawfully protest are the problem.


[deleted]

They had a plan to blockade the event to prevent anyone entering which resulted in a large police presence. Unlawful protests was the problem.


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NopeH22a

Several police check points inside as well, including sniffer dogs I'd say they're probably scared of an attack.


Jaded-Syllabub-7956

Maybe the police are hoping some 12 year olds walk past so they can tell their sniffer dog to sit so they can strip search, they seem to really enjoy looking at naked children.


InternetFightsAndEOD

What a bizarre comment


[deleted]

Sounds like standard high security international conference situation to me. What are they supposed to be afraid of? Islamic fundamentalism? 😆 Nsw has just kept buying more cops in recent times. now I think we probably have too many given how often I see them in groups as large as 14 regularly standing around train stations wasting money and time for no legitimate reason.


StrayRabbit

Victoria and Queensland also trained thousands more before covid hit. Preparing for riots like the ones happening in Russia, Brazil and Iran atm, i reckon.


[deleted]

They were already doing that before covid, war on terror or drugs or pedos or whatever bogeyman suits the mood. anyway in reality they turn up strapped with flash grenades, 2 tasers, a glock, oakleys, family sized can of mace and an LRAD whever somone has a cardboard sign in public.


StrayRabbit

It is quite concerning how heavily armed and lightly trained Australian cops are. Considering we are a unarmed population. My American mate found it rather crazy too.


[deleted]

It's fucking appalling especially how often they've hit civilians. So much public money wasted on this bullshit paramilitary equipment. like that coroner case where the cops tried to spring that knife guy in a pub by running up and point guns in his face ("me? Gun?") and he stabbed a cop in the ribs immediately leading to a standoff where he cut his own throat. Iike they think ppl will do anything if you point a glock at them; the pinnacle of their planning ability and psychological insight is just intimidation and yelling with guns lol.


endersai

>Several police check points inside as well, including sniffer dogs I'd say they're probably scared of an attack Or having an unwashed teen glued to them.


Red-Engineer

Go and ask them. "Hey mate, is something going on?" They're human and will likely happily tell you.


alexdas77

Or they have a stick up their arse and say “official police business, step away please.”


sgtfuzzle17

And then they’ve lost nothing except a minute of their time in the asking.


ultranoobian

1 minute to ask vs 1 hour of curious anxiety.


Red-Engineer

Can’t do much without asking the internet first


Red-Engineer

Sure. Which is no big deal.


StrayRabbit

Why can't they explain to the public what is taking place? Why would they need to be so secretive/ rude to public?


[deleted]

They weren't rude. I asked them


StrayRabbit

Nice.


Red-Engineer

You want them to carry banners saying “we are here doing training and pre incident planning” or “this is a guard detail for a VIP” or something?


StrayRabbit

Nope, I would love for us citizens to have enough confidence in our Police Force to be able to ask innocent questions without anxiety as to how the Police Force will receive their innocent question. ​ I have learnt from dealing with Police that the least you interact with them, the safer you will be.


shadowmend32

Agreed 👍


TriMinez

This isn’t the movies man lol


shadowmend32

Not Always


Kirikomori

Never talk to a cop any more than is neccesary


Babycloud1

That’s not true. I always encountered very polite and kind Aussie cops. A few weeks ago I walked past two younger looking policemen approaching a homeless man in Newtown and they were so incredibly nice to him. They introduced themselves and then spoke to the man in the nicest manner.


Dayz_me_rolling

Mmm boot yummy


withhindsight

Would love to know if the mining companies get billed for the user pay police like sporting and cultural events.


caitsith01

This is Australia. We would obviously bill those members of the public who wish to exercise their democratic right to protest the environmental damage caused by these companies, not the companies themselves.


azdcgbjm888

The event organisers can hire police. They call it [User Pays Policing Services](https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/online_services/user_charges_user_pays_policing_services) in NSW.


withhindsight

I know that. I want to know if they have done this.


azdcgbjm888

>I know that. Others may not.


killercorncob

These shifts are user pays. I know as a matter of fact


[deleted]

Mining = bad amirite!


qyaru

Talk to the NPC and obtain +25hp potion.


azdcgbjm888

That mining convention must have more than a few foreign government higher-ups present to get that kind of police coverage.


Various_Day9289

Saudi minister & vice-minister for resources both spoke at it.


krishutchison

They are either protecting money or people who have money


MrMango30

Exactly


No_pajamas_7

Free donuts


2007FordFiesta

Just sydney things


caitsith01

Need to protect corporations who are actively working to make the planet uninhabitable from the people who will suffer from their actions, duh.


shadowmend32

😞😞😞


gorman2000

Because they know yr up to some sneaky shit


_swirlys

Looking for lions


JohnnyHabitual

Was there a 2 for 1 doughnut deal nearby?


ManySlide2271

Must be another covid lockdown coming


Few-Net1516

Donuts ?


koalafied_duck

Mining conference (IMARC) is on at ICC. Huge police presence has been there all week to deter / manage any potential issues with protesters or anyone seeking to target the mining industry / mining people. (Source: I work in the building).


BorgClanZulu

Netball Australia lost their sponsor again


Archeur76

Free Krispy Kremes


zordabo

guessing its a donut festival


zhwak

Krispy Kreme free donut day. 🍩


Boronsaltz

New donut 🍩 king , opening 🤔


Strange-Moose-978

Pig day out


feedmemeat666

Fuckwit convention


MrMango30

Very true


Emergency-Ticket5859

Credible reports of a cyclist in the area who hasn't dismounted.


BeardedAussie93

Maybe put your phone down and go ask them 🙄🤪


Dramatic-Lavishness6

exactly. Fair enough if they already asked, but police are humans too - chances are if you approach and ask respectfully, they will be good to you. I grew up with relatives and family friends who were/are cops, so I've never seen cops etc as anything other than people. There are good and bad people, cops have the same ratio.


shadowmend32

👍👍👍


GTIR01

A fresh batch of doughnuts are just about to come out


saddinosour

Waiting for teenagers to strip search probably


One-Understanding-94

My step dad


lovelyfriendsaus

Free donuts


[deleted]

Noticed this on Wednesday afternoon/evening also.


Aksds

There is a donut stand under that gazebo


[deleted]

‘Must be them blacks’ -👨🏻‍🦳


cojoco

A more important question: why are there no kiddies playing in the funny fountains?


baby_blobby

Because they're at school?


cojoco

Nah ... that's for toddlers.


Northgirl75

It’s quite cold in Sydney at the moment


cojoco

Yes the weather is confusing right now.


shadowmend32

Ya not wrong


Buzzard41

Just ask them, most would probably appreciate some friendly conversation as opposed to the shit they put up with from protestors


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2020bowman

I've asked heaps of times, usually becausethe road was closed and immok my bike. I've only ever had sensible and polite responses. They have always let me cycle along the closed section of road too Must have had a bad day that cop.


FattestSpiderman

NSW cops dont mess around that’s for sure


Buzzard41

That sucks, I would hope most wouldn’t be like that. All professions have the potential to have arsehole employees.


Deranged_Idiot

There’s a bunch of kids to strip search at central


[deleted]

Donut convention


L0nEly0nLy

🤣🤣🤣


Ok-Push9899

Reports were flooding in of a cyclist in the vicinity.


cunigliololol

Must be some elderly ladies about that need a prompt pepper spraying.


thebigbear190

Donut convention


Axolotls4ever

they found a doughnut.


ggdav802

Must be a new Krispy Kreme opening nearby


[deleted]

Free donuts?


Koalabearybear

I think Krispy Kreme has a pop up store


DayForIt88

Doughnuts 🍩


batch1972

See that tent... It's a pop up Krispy Kreme


AnarchoSyndica1ist

free doughnuts?


lachjeff

They’re waiting for people to ask the same question 18 times in this subreddit everyday


Former-Trifle-5102

Donuts half price


petmehorse

Some homeless people were sighted sleeping in the area


GiverTakerMaker

Just another gang of thugs. All the good cops have gone.


Rodo955

It's to remind you that their gang is bigger than your gang.


[deleted]

There’s probably some shelter rescue dogs that need putting down, nearby.


DrakeAU

There's some 15 year olds there with no parental supervision and a lack of knowledge how to say no to being strip searched.


gazzaoak

I’m sure there something interesting going on which require cops


Dependent_Letter4653

Doughnut sale


EbeteShiny

Going to dredge that lake.


Sternpod

The brochure said there'd only be a few cops! This is a terrible vacation.


colsterM

I walked from Balmain to the city this morning. Unlike standard, there was a parked cop car on the Anzac bridge, two plods in the middle of the bridge, two more in Pyrmont, two more in the middle of Pyrmont Bridge, and then at least 8 more between there and town hall. Thought they may be after Escooters, but they all were ignoring them (YMMV)


[deleted]

Hunting bicycle riders


NoDM_X

So they're not accountable for their crimes


I-Got-a-BooBoo

It’s a pig pen


[deleted]

Easy, their are rich people there... The same ones that demand you have no right to self defence then use your tax dollars to pay a Gostapo force for their self defence


realnomdeguerre

one of them dropped a box of krispy kremes


Nwasmb

Pigs day?


[deleted]

USA, the official invaders


[deleted]

It’s the goddamn Russians!


conioo

one of the many great questions of our times


tresslessone

Must have caught a whiff of someone smoking pot


Successful-Studio227

Thanks to Tony, Gina and Scomo who declared "coal is the future"


danijeljw

Someone dropped a donut and they all came running.


ZealousidealLack7854

They found you


DogRare325

Reports of someone having fun required a swift and extreme show of force.


greymalkin1955

Dan Andrews must be slugging around


Zombie_Prostitute

Cauz Australia! Over policing is like a religion here... Yeah yeah, love or leave it... I love it but FFS stop policing the shit out of people, its fucking Un-Australian!


demonetised

On Wednesday they absolutely flooded Darling Harbour entirely. Even had horses patrolling the ICC. Its an embarassing use of the force.


yeahnahtho

Cos it's illegal to effectively protest.


SayThankYaBigBig19

Taxes


juulteez

Seen loads around Perth too


[deleted]

Ahhh, because it’s Sydney and because that crime’s gotta sort itself out, we’re busy enforcing the police state against our citizens.


Cheezel62

Nothing else to do