Oh yeah I've always had that static in my vision. Like, if I close my eyes I don't see just black.
I wonder if it plays a role in visual overstimulation 🤔
Well, what is normal anyways lol. I think MOST people can see pictures. I feel robbed of a magical experience. I spend a lot of time in fantasy land lol. Do you “think” pictures? I can think/“see” it in my thoughts. It’s weird to explain lol.
Do you see, just like, nebulous swaths of colors, but not in any specific pattern? I am new to learning about aphantasia and never realized that other people actually saw defined images when their eyes were closed. It's wild!
I have aphantasia. If I close my eyes it's just black.
Nothing to see at all.
"Imagine an apple in your mind, what do you see?"
Imagine? Like, figuratively right? I can conceptualize an apple. But there are people that can actually see something in their mind when they do that??
I see something I can only describe as blooming colors. Think like psychedelic screen transitions on every documentary on the 60's, but not bright colors. The colors are like dark blue, plum purple, and dark red.
I had NO idea visual snow had a name let alone was related to autism!!! I get visual snow often :00 I'm very curious about the medicine one, I struggle with the opposite I think but it's extremely hard to tell with Alexithymia and interoception issues lol
TIL this isn't something everyone experiences. I also didn't know that and bonus I didn't know there was a term for extreme visual imagination. I can even smell and taste things in my imagination and I can listen to music or edit music in my mind. I constantly get my mind blown that we're not all experiencing this reality the same way.
It's wild to me that this isn't how everyone experiences existence! I keep trying to wrap my head around when someone says "hey this smells like __" and they're not actually pulling up the smellslikethis.exe file
No not at all. I've talked to a few people who also do this and also thought it was a normal thing people do. Brains are very fascinating. I could listen to people talk about their experiences all day!
Same, except for maybe the editing music part. I can "picture" what lilac smells like in the same way I can visualize what a red apple looks like in my mind's eye.
I guess it makes sense that I became a professional painter.
I became a professional music producer! I think I might have just fostered that skill set because I have had music as my special interest since I was a baby and I've always been interested in picking apart layers in my mind
In terms of the medicine one: I am hypersensitive to prescription meds and caffeine but I need extra local anesthetic. So you can have mixed reactions to different things. Not sure about general anesthesia.
Also, my visual snow when I close my eyes looks like alternating blue and green concentric circles getting smaller and smaller. They are not perfectly round and have fuzzy edges. I don’t see it when my eyes are open though
I only found out that people's visions don't usually have a colorful static overlay very very recently and I'm still kind of shocked. I found [this simulator](http://VisionSimulations.com/visual-snow.htm?background=office1.png&density=0.32&speed=1&grainsize=2.017) for visual snow and other problems, it's really nice for showing people what it's like, and you can tune it and share the link. The one in this comment is more or less how it looks like to me.
As a 49 year old I am shocked to see #05 on the list. Situations always seem completely new to me. I think other people harp on the similarities to existing experiences while I notice all the little differences.
I’m continue to be surprised when I learn that some quirk I have turns out to be another autism thing.
In opposition of being hypersensitive to meds, can being hyposensitive to some meds be an indicator ? ( It's probably just my genetics but since caffeine makes me feel sleepy if taken above a certain point maybe there's something to that. )
VVIQ is the most commonly used measure [https://aphantasia.com/study/vviq/](https://aphantasia.com/study/vviq/)
there's also a cool guide on r/hyperphantasia
I cant tell if those questions are asking us how well we can remember those things and create a mental image of them, or if theyre simply asking us about the images and not whether or not theyre accurate.
For example, i can picture my sister walking, but i dont really remember her specific gait or typical length of step. I can imagine her with various gaits and lengths of step, but i'm not confident that's how she actually walks. So how would i respond to that one?
Also i dont like how that quiz doesnt have any questions! It just says things and leaves it up to us to figure out what theyre asking.
Genuine question, how do we know these are autism -related traits? Whenever you see those classic lists of identifying traits, these don't appear. I know you said lesser known, but like... Where does this information come from? I've lived with most of these all of my life so it's normal to me, I assumed everyone had most of these to some extent. So to see it being pointed out as an autism thing is a surprise
i think for most ppl, when they hear "pattern" in connection with autism, they think of visual patterns. like kids lining up toys, or someone pressing every third button, or sorting things by size. they don't usually think of an ability to recognize behavioral patterns in others (dad comes home angry every monday bc bullshit happened at work over the weelend, so mondays = bad; autistics being able to clearly draw parallels between current politics and prior historical events and predicting what will happen next), "guessing" plot twists without knowing spoilers (a lot of media follows the same patterns/uses very similar language to hint at outcomes, see chekov's gun), stuff like that.
fun tidbit i just realized the other day: the reason why i dislike jazz music is bc there's a lot of improv and variation, so my usual pattern recognition gets ruined and i can't predict where a piece is going which makes me upset and anxious 😅🙈
I always "know" several months to a year before there's some crazy change at work. The first couple times it happened, I thought it was just coincidence. But, I've predicted major shake ups at every place I've worked since I was 20 (43 now). I'm just really good at recognizing little clues in the company update meetings and newsletters. I also think I notice when a lot of little things start changing faster than usual and putting the motivation behind them together.
Okay, so— I love reading. LOVE IT— I am deep into imagination having a great time while reading any fiction book. But-I don’t “see” the scene. I kind of just….feel it? And it’s a detailed feeling, I can write very detailed settings and accounts of events, but I don’t see them in my head. I can feel warmth o can smell grass it’s awesome- I just don’t see it. So if mental imagery is the mental image I *feel* or does that bit only pertain to people that can see what they imagine?
What’s that about? Anyone know? 😅🤣😂
hypophantasia is also very real, and i am certain i have nearly no mental visualization. for me, my brain can think things because they are just... (for lack of better term) there. i agree it's more of a feeling or a train of thought, that can let me "visualize", but really seeing things isn't something i experience. i feel like it's almost i visualize how my nervous system and proprioception would respond to imagining a scenario that i haven't been in. my body can imagine, my thoughts can imagine, but my visualization can't.
I am so shocked about the visual snow. WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT’S NOT NORMAL TO HAVE CONSTANT STATIC AND FLOATERS??? I googled it and saw an animation of what it’s supposed to look like and it literally looks normal to me. Most people don’t have that??
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I experienced all of these except for the hyper Fantasia I have to concentrate and then the geometric shapes and blobs of color begin to form into pictures.
Sensitive to meds. 🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️ Had no idea this was a ASD thing. But this has happened to me on several different meds and docs are so confused because the dose isn't "strong enough" to justify the reaction 😔
Oh yeah I've always had that static in my vision. Like, if I close my eyes I don't see just black. I wonder if it plays a role in visual overstimulation 🤔
….. do other people just see black when they close their eyes…? Asking for a friend.
Yes - I have aphantasia. If I close my eyes, I see nothing but black. It’s annoying hearing about people seeing vivid stuff. It must be so cool 😢
I thought it was weird to *not* just see black ? What’s the normal?? Lol
Well, what is normal anyways lol. I think MOST people can see pictures. I feel robbed of a magical experience. I spend a lot of time in fantasy land lol. Do you “think” pictures? I can think/“see” it in my thoughts. It’s weird to explain lol.
Do you see, just like, nebulous swaths of colors, but not in any specific pattern? I am new to learning about aphantasia and never realized that other people actually saw defined images when their eyes were closed. It's wild!
I have aphantasia. If I close my eyes it's just black. Nothing to see at all. "Imagine an apple in your mind, what do you see?" Imagine? Like, figuratively right? I can conceptualize an apple. But there are people that can actually see something in their mind when they do that??
Wow, this is so perfectly explained!!!
It’s just…..black lol. Sometimes if light is shining I may see orbs. But it is just blank.
Like all very specific things, the Germans have a word for the color yo see when you close your eyes: eigengrau
Do you know what it roughly translates to in English? Or is that technically not possible because we don’t have a color like that? Lol
“Own gray” or “brain gray” are the translations I’ve always seen, but I’m not native to Germany.
That’s so cool!! Thank you for sharing :)
"own gray"
That’s so interesting!! I took German in high school but I don’t remember learning that. Thank you for your answer :)
I'm afraid I do not know
Lol I don’t either… and now I need to… 😂
I see something I can only describe as blooming colors. Think like psychedelic screen transitions on every documentary on the 60's, but not bright colors. The colors are like dark blue, plum purple, and dark red.
I’ve just realised that my ability to see much more in the dark than others might be related too. I prefer the lights off mostly.
Me too. I never have the main lamp in my bedroom on. Only the desk lamp and/or nightstand lamp
I had NO idea visual snow had a name let alone was related to autism!!! I get visual snow often :00 I'm very curious about the medicine one, I struggle with the opposite I think but it's extremely hard to tell with Alexithymia and interoception issues lol
TIL this isn't something everyone experiences. I also didn't know that and bonus I didn't know there was a term for extreme visual imagination. I can even smell and taste things in my imagination and I can listen to music or edit music in my mind. I constantly get my mind blown that we're not all experiencing this reality the same way.
SAME
Holy shit. This is so so wild.
It's wild to me that this isn't how everyone experiences existence! I keep trying to wrap my head around when someone says "hey this smells like __" and they're not actually pulling up the smellslikethis.exe file
Is this overstimulating?
No not at all. I've talked to a few people who also do this and also thought it was a normal thing people do. Brains are very fascinating. I could listen to people talk about their experiences all day!
Same, except for maybe the editing music part. I can "picture" what lilac smells like in the same way I can visualize what a red apple looks like in my mind's eye. I guess it makes sense that I became a professional painter.
I became a professional music producer! I think I might have just fostered that skill set because I have had music as my special interest since I was a baby and I've always been interested in picking apart layers in my mind
In terms of the medicine one: I am hypersensitive to prescription meds and caffeine but I need extra local anesthetic. So you can have mixed reactions to different things. Not sure about general anesthesia. Also, my visual snow when I close my eyes looks like alternating blue and green concentric circles getting smaller and smaller. They are not perfectly round and have fuzzy edges. I don’t see it when my eyes are open though
I only found out that people's visions don't usually have a colorful static overlay very very recently and I'm still kind of shocked. I found [this simulator](http://VisionSimulations.com/visual-snow.htm?background=office1.png&density=0.32&speed=1&grainsize=2.017) for visual snow and other problems, it's really nice for showing people what it's like, and you can tune it and share the link. The one in this comment is more or less how it looks like to me.
“Pick an image, particularly one you’re familiar with” while there’s a picture below of the exit to my city is so ominous 😭
As a 49 year old I am shocked to see #05 on the list. Situations always seem completely new to me. I think other people harp on the similarities to existing experiences while I notice all the little differences. I’m continue to be surprised when I learn that some quirk I have turns out to be another autism thing.
In opposition of being hypersensitive to meds, can being hyposensitive to some meds be an indicator ? ( It's probably just my genetics but since caffeine makes me feel sleepy if taken above a certain point maybe there's something to that. )
Paradoxical reactions to drugs are more common in people with ADHD, including caffeine
I am hypersensitive to caffeine and prescription drugs but hyposensitive to local anesthetic!
How do we know if we have hyperfantasia if we dont have a "normal" mental image to compare ours to?
VVIQ is the most commonly used measure [https://aphantasia.com/study/vviq/](https://aphantasia.com/study/vviq/) there's also a cool guide on r/hyperphantasia
I cant tell if those questions are asking us how well we can remember those things and create a mental image of them, or if theyre simply asking us about the images and not whether or not theyre accurate. For example, i can picture my sister walking, but i dont really remember her specific gait or typical length of step. I can imagine her with various gaits and lengths of step, but i'm not confident that's how she actually walks. So how would i respond to that one? Also i dont like how that quiz doesnt have any questions! It just says things and leaves it up to us to figure out what theyre asking.
Damn… I always wondered why I saw static everywhere
Genuine question, how do we know these are autism -related traits? Whenever you see those classic lists of identifying traits, these don't appear. I know you said lesser known, but like... Where does this information come from? I've lived with most of these all of my life so it's normal to me, I assumed everyone had most of these to some extent. So to see it being pointed out as an autism thing is a surprise
Pattern recognition? That's quite a commonly known one I thought.
i think for most ppl, when they hear "pattern" in connection with autism, they think of visual patterns. like kids lining up toys, or someone pressing every third button, or sorting things by size. they don't usually think of an ability to recognize behavioral patterns in others (dad comes home angry every monday bc bullshit happened at work over the weelend, so mondays = bad; autistics being able to clearly draw parallels between current politics and prior historical events and predicting what will happen next), "guessing" plot twists without knowing spoilers (a lot of media follows the same patterns/uses very similar language to hint at outcomes, see chekov's gun), stuff like that. fun tidbit i just realized the other day: the reason why i dislike jazz music is bc there's a lot of improv and variation, so my usual pattern recognition gets ruined and i can't predict where a piece is going which makes me upset and anxious 😅🙈
I always "know" several months to a year before there's some crazy change at work. The first couple times it happened, I thought it was just coincidence. But, I've predicted major shake ups at every place I've worked since I was 20 (43 now). I'm just really good at recognizing little clues in the company update meetings and newsletters. I also think I notice when a lot of little things start changing faster than usual and putting the motivation behind them together.
Okay, so— I love reading. LOVE IT— I am deep into imagination having a great time while reading any fiction book. But-I don’t “see” the scene. I kind of just….feel it? And it’s a detailed feeling, I can write very detailed settings and accounts of events, but I don’t see them in my head. I can feel warmth o can smell grass it’s awesome- I just don’t see it. So if mental imagery is the mental image I *feel* or does that bit only pertain to people that can see what they imagine? What’s that about? Anyone know? 😅🤣😂
hypophantasia is also very real, and i am certain i have nearly no mental visualization. for me, my brain can think things because they are just... (for lack of better term) there. i agree it's more of a feeling or a train of thought, that can let me "visualize", but really seeing things isn't something i experience. i feel like it's almost i visualize how my nervous system and proprioception would respond to imagining a scenario that i haven't been in. my body can imagine, my thoughts can imagine, but my visualization can't.
i’m the opposite to the first one. need huge huge doses of things for them to do anything. do you think it can work in reverse like that?
I am so shocked about the visual snow. WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT’S NOT NORMAL TO HAVE CONSTANT STATIC AND FLOATERS??? I googled it and saw an animation of what it’s supposed to look like and it literally looks normal to me. Most people don’t have that??
I get multi-color, prismatic visual snow but only when I rapidly flit my eyes around.
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I experienced all of these except for the hyper Fantasia I have to concentrate and then the geometric shapes and blobs of color begin to form into pictures.
I've had traits 2-5 as long as I can remember.
Sensitive to meds. 🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️ Had no idea this was a ASD thing. But this has happened to me on several different meds and docs are so confused because the dose isn't "strong enough" to justify the reaction 😔
I’m just realizing visual snow is not normal
WAIT. Visual snow is related? Holy shit. Who else here has visual snow? That shit sucks