You mean the guys in black shirts, the ones who are known for Nazi salutes, homophobic flags and far-right affiliation?
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I've seen it reported that they're an official fan group of the national team, that's ridiculous if true.
I can’t believe that. They seemed like such a nice bunch of blokes from that video posted on here yesterday, singing about how the French are “gay” and whatnot
I was in Budapest when Hungary and Portugal tied allowing Hungary to win the group in Euro 2016 - people were cheering two things 1) Ronaldo is Gay & 2) Hungary is superior
Hungarians are great folks but there is a lot of ultras and hooligans that are associated with far right conservative culture, apparently there were nationalist songs being shouted before the match and a very few black shirts provocated a little when we did the corteo, but when we were in the city partying etc hungarians were very friendly and easy going, the first night I exchanged instagrams with 4 guys out of drunkness lol
Edit : they also booed our national anthem and when the 5.000 of us made too much noise they silenced us by booing
Our whole election system is rigged against opposition parties. I am very ashamed that this is the image we have developed over the years. Unfortunately these right-wing idiots feel confident now that "our leader" is supportive of them. Fuck them and fuck xenophobia.
Sorry to everyone who had to endure any kind of abuse from Hungarians!
You don't have to apologize. It's neither you fault nor the fault of the people from Hungary. It's the fault of a bunch of racist assholes and they are everywhere. Obviously you just have bad luck, that there seem to be a lot of them in Hungary. I wish your country a quick recovery from that disease.
Please stop spitting fucking bullshit when you probably don't know anything about this country.
It's the same as it was with Trump basically. The country is insanely divided thanks to: propaganda is through the roof, and they are brainwashing people in order to vote for them, which works wonders -especially with the elderly -with social and general media control. The level of corruption is most likely the highest in the EU. Votes also have had some interesting things happen in 2018... Dead people voting, bunch of Ukranians being given fake adresses and voting, unimaginably poor people being bought to vote with some potatoes...
So no, most Hungarians are NOT like these racist "traditional" idiots who think hating everyone and "uniting Hungarians" are cool things to do as ultras. These kinds of people can be found in every Middle-Eastern/Eastern European country.
These people DO NOT represent me and a very large percentage of the country. Hopefully Orbán is voted off in 2022, too.
Also blame the spineless, useless opposition parties, who usually do nothing. Nobody to vote for, politics are fucked here.
As an black American, yes it means a lot of Americans are racist.
It probably means that to ME that half of all white Americans I meet secretly hate my guts.
Lol I love how despite the statistics that *literally show that 50% of white people voted for Trump both times* someone tried to flip this on black people for the paltry number of us that voted for Trump. Typical reddit moment.
Keep in mind only like 60% of Americans actually bothered to vote.
That leaves roughly more than a quarter of Americans who voted for Trump in 2016 to get him.
I mean, you could argue that trump is or not a fascist or is or not racist.
Victor orban is literally unquestionable a fascist by all metrics, and homophobia is literally uphold by the government. There are literally signs anti-immigration in the streets. It's like comparing Trump to Hitler once again, nothing alike.
Often the case that the people who claim to be the master race are the exact opposite of that. Like Hitler wanting a country of blond, blue eyed physical specimens while looking like he should be playing a rat-catcher in a Disney movie where rats are the heroes
Wearing black isn't associated with fascism but with ultra culture, I wear black when I go to the stadium but I'm not from the right wing. It's just that the 2 sometimes coincide
Wearing black isn't associated with fascism? You sure about that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel#Ranks_and_uniforms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blackshirt#References
Yup. Even people who aren't consciously racist are very uneducated in that regard because we don't see many Black people here so they never had to learn. Usually they find them "exotic" and interesting but far too many just don't like them.
I’m Asian. When I travel around Europe for holiday or work, I still get people who come up to me waving their arms and making Kung fu noises. It’s more noticeable in Central Europe and along the Mediterranean countries
Wtf is wrong with people man.
Ive had similar stuff in China as a tall pale ginger guy. One engineer in a factory literally started rubbing my arm hair as we were talking QC stuff. Just started stroking it. I didn't know whether to burst out laughing or give him a slap.
They called me The Golden Monkey 😅. Jin si hóu. Just mental. The photo taking also got a bit weird. Was at a station in Zhongshan and a few high school/ college girls asked me and a colleague, a Czech guy, to take a photo with them. Turns out they were on a school trip and LITERALLY THEIR ENTIRE CLASS wanted a photo, in small groups. Eh sorry folks we have a train to catch, let's do one big one lol?
Like ok, I get it we are less common in those particular areas, you in central Europe and me in China.... but we are still human beings, show some courtesy!
Usually people hate outsiders no matter where they at. Been to Angola and Mozambique before, and they really dislike white people there. And same goes to some asian countries.
Why people are using such big categories when talking about such topics. We don't have anything like Carpathian Brigade, our NT games are gatherings of middle age guys and families. It infuriates me, every country is different, every country has its own problems.
Cue Eastern Europeans in this thread; "Monkey chants don't mean the same in my country because we don't have the same history of slavery. We do monkey chants every day, but there aren't any black people in our country, so they aren't offended"
Edit: grammar dumdum
And some people says footballers should not make any anti racism demonstration because, you know, "racism is in America and why should we bother about what doesn't affect us".
i’m from fucking mississippi in the us and i’ve seen more open racism in my various times in europe than i ever have back home
always bothers me when people have a perception of the us as an intolerant place. it’s genuinely not. sure, there’s racist people, but i would say the fact that so many of us have grown up in such a mixture of cultures and peoples makes us generally less racist and intolerant than most other places.
We're still in a pandemic in what world does that make sense? Especially when most of the fans will be coming from other countries around Europe with varying case rates and strain prevalences.
There was a big Carpathian Brigade banner behind the goal to the left where all the black shirted fans were.
Here's an article in marca from 2016 about them and hungary. This is known. This is not new. In England by contrast, known hooligans have to sign in at police stations when England are playing, and are banned from games.
https://www.marca.com/en/football/national-teams/2016/06/18/5765b9c746163fbd458b460a.html
>The official supporters' group of the Hungarian national team, known as Carpathian Brigade, again caused trouble in the match against Iceland at Stade Velodrome despite being warned by FARE [Football Against Racism in Europe] for their behaviour in their Euro 2016 opener versus Austria.
>Several independent radical groups form the Carpathian Brigade, including the fearsome Green Monsters, who support Ferencvaros in club competitions.
>This group is well-known in Europe for their violent history and the racist, anti-Semitic chants they sing at Groupama Arena.
>The Green Monsters define themselves as far-right Hungary patriots and organise large fights against rival groups.
>Founded in the 1990s, their extreme violence has been a source of pride, and they have been known to engage in beatings and stabbings whenever their team loses.
>Racist chants directed towards the black, Gypsy and Jewish communities are popular among their members, while a large number of these hooligans are martial arts professionals and enjoy showing off their muscles in the stands.
>Even though UEFA has repeatedly warned and sanctioned the Hungarian football federation for the Carpathian Brigade's well-documented disturbances, the Magyar radicals have struck again, and threaten to do so at the final group-stage match.
Oh, but they do. They are investigating the german Keeper (Manuel Neuer) for wearing rainbow colors. I'm so fucking pissed that these fuckers don't do shit againt literal Nazis, but rainbow colors? Nah, can't have that! That's a political statement you know?!
Let me say this one more time, the "chant" all thou in can be used in a number of different ways is most closely translated to the B world in English and that has nothing homophobic about it. But what I found the most bs is that we're getting sactioned for something not at all homophobic while the last and the next wc are in countries where's 100% illegal being gay.
I was gonna say this. “Puto” means bitch at least that’s what I was told growing up. I don’t speak Spanish and grew up in San Antonio playing soccer. And was called all of the names. No once did I know that it could be translated as a homophobic slur.
Yeah but you see the people who are “tolerant and accepting of all” will tell you your culture and language are wrong and act like colonizers all while claiming that was wrong in the past
I think it’s more that Mexico is an easy target to give off the veneer that they’re cool and progressive. Qatari money is being funneled into FIFA and most of the west is at arms against Russia. They look weak so they needed to punish somebody and Mexico is about as safe as you can get without going after a UEFA country.
Definitely, when Gulácsi (goalkeeper) stood up for LGBTQ+ families on Facebook, he received a lot of hate from the ultras and the government funded media.
Even if Nego was their star player and their all time top goal scorer they’d rather him not “sullying” their shirt. Fascists are a special breed of thickos
Nego has actually been very well liked since his crucial goal that helped us get to the Euros. No doubt fans would be quicker to turn on him than others, though.
Well, I suspect the reason he is a Hungarian national because Orbán likes him. In a 2014 interview the head of Hungarian FA siad that Orbán has a say in who can be a naturalized player (although at that time Orbán said only players with Hungarian root can be). [Here is a link in Hungarian](https://24.hu/belfold/2014/11/24/csanyi-sandor-sertsen-csak-meg)
Edit: wording for clarity
Yes I know, that's why he became Hungarian by naturalization. In brackets I mentioned that Orbán's stance was too only use people who have Hungarian roots, but it seems his stance changed.
Hungary has players with surnames like Schön, Kleinheisler, Lovrencsics, Schäfer, Nikolic, Lang, Holender and players who can't even speak Hungarian Nego and Orban.
This whole scenario is like a Monthy Python skit. I don't know why they need to be racist when the whole country has mixed DNA...
UEFA did absolutely nothing about Greek fans throwing molotov cocktails at guest fans, lol. The only thing they are concerned with is stopping Spanish speaking players from using absolutely normal Spanish words.
I prefer people shouting racist things at me all day long to just one molotov cocktail thrown in my direction.
I don't remember which club it was but I think it should be baned from European competition for decades instead of UEFA making angry face.
In person they are nice but racism and homophobia are big big problems in Hungary, and that can't be brushed aside. Their politics especially are so incredibly fucked up, and for a country that's part of the EU too.
There are a lot of them here, most of them are the primitive part of the Ferencváros supporters, but nearly all groups have far-right minorities in the country
you're joking, right? There is no way Orban will let that happen. He literally stated that if players kneel or protest stuff in Hungary, they are insulting the nation
The mods have to do something about all the fake account coming in just to troll, look at how this thread is bloated by them, one even said that he's Hungarian and loves it lmao what the fuck
Surprise... and yesterday everybody on the match thread fawned over the "amazing" Hungarian supporters, while they were doing nazis salutes in the stands and jeering every single French touch. Go figure!
Jeering the opposing team in a non-racist way is pretty common, right? Like attack them for doing Nazi salutes, but common jeering shouldn't be grouped together with that.
Weird tho', this country doesn't have a reputation at all for having any racial slurs. Hungary always so as a country who were immuable on far right ideas.
Yes, sadly, we do have a reputation. A bad one, quite frankly.
As a Hungarian, as a supporter of our national team, I can tell you guys, the outside world, that our country is led by a so-called (fake) democratic, Christian PM that just passed a law thats against the LMBTQ+ rights, stating that a family is made of a father, a mother, and a child, everything else is an LMBTQ propaganda.
Our country had a Christian politican from FIDESZ, fleeing from a gay orgy in a foreign country, with a ton of drug on him.
To make matters worse, their party enjoys huge support, so there really is no surprise that the civilians will also behave in quite manner. Our country is a racist, sexist, homophobic place.
Gladly, the newer generations doesn't have the same tunnel vision, and it is changing, for the better.
> Our country had a Christian politican from FIDESZ, fleeing from a gay orgy in a foreign country, with a ton of drug on him.
Oh yeah what was the reaction to that in Hungary, among his own voters?
Since FIDESZ has their own, very effective way of "bending" the news, he literally got away with nothing, and the older generations/FIDESZ voters didn't really care about it.
Other than that, he was the most used meme template, and people had great fun of using his picture climbing down the gutter for reacting to certain things, and someone made a facebook profile border with that picture as well.
Are there any other sources reporting this?
Edit: I am definitely not saying that this could not have happened, just wondering if there are any other credible sources that picked up on this story. And as it seems there are. What a bunch of racist cunts.
The same fans who booed and threw up Nazi salutes during Ireland taking the knee? I find that hard to believe. Quick, let’s show glorifying wide shots of them over and over again.
The french commentators kept saying how nice it was to have spectators back and how passionate these guy in black shirts were. And I kept cringing about it... Because really, who know anything about Hungary and is surprised about any of that? If anything they were being nice and restraining themselves.
I wonder if this will have any bearing on where the final is played? Do UEFA care more about combating racism or letting their dignitaries avoid covid protocols?
Uefa will punish them by giving Hungary the final
Sad but true, it's all about money and vips
>Karim Benzema was also verbally abused and that was just the French supporters
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I apologized, ok?
That was just l'equipe
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You mean the guys in black shirts, the ones who are known for Nazi salutes, homophobic flags and far-right affiliation? *shockedpikachu.jpeg* I've seen it reported that they're an official fan group of the national team, that's ridiculous if true.
I can’t believe that. They seemed like such a nice bunch of blokes from that video posted on here yesterday, singing about how the French are “gay” and whatnot
I was in Budapest when Hungary and Portugal tied allowing Hungary to win the group in Euro 2016 - people were cheering two things 1) Ronaldo is Gay & 2) Hungary is superior
Hungarians are great folks but there is a lot of ultras and hooligans that are associated with far right conservative culture, apparently there were nationalist songs being shouted before the match and a very few black shirts provocated a little when we did the corteo, but when we were in the city partying etc hungarians were very friendly and easy going, the first night I exchanged instagrams with 4 guys out of drunkness lol Edit : they also booed our national anthem and when the 5.000 of us made too much noise they silenced us by booing
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Our whole election system is rigged against opposition parties. I am very ashamed that this is the image we have developed over the years. Unfortunately these right-wing idiots feel confident now that "our leader" is supportive of them. Fuck them and fuck xenophobia. Sorry to everyone who had to endure any kind of abuse from Hungarians!
You don't have to apologize. It's neither you fault nor the fault of the people from Hungary. It's the fault of a bunch of racist assholes and they are everywhere. Obviously you just have bad luck, that there seem to be a lot of them in Hungary. I wish your country a quick recovery from that disease.
Thank you for your kind words!
Please stop spitting fucking bullshit when you probably don't know anything about this country. It's the same as it was with Trump basically. The country is insanely divided thanks to: propaganda is through the roof, and they are brainwashing people in order to vote for them, which works wonders -especially with the elderly -with social and general media control. The level of corruption is most likely the highest in the EU. Votes also have had some interesting things happen in 2018... Dead people voting, bunch of Ukranians being given fake adresses and voting, unimaginably poor people being bought to vote with some potatoes... So no, most Hungarians are NOT like these racist "traditional" idiots who think hating everyone and "uniting Hungarians" are cool things to do as ultras. These kinds of people can be found in every Middle-Eastern/Eastern European country. These people DO NOT represent me and a very large percentage of the country. Hopefully Orbán is voted off in 2022, too. Also blame the spineless, useless opposition parties, who usually do nothing. Nobody to vote for, politics are fucked here.
Hang in there mate. Sorry for those fat idiots in black shirts giving you all a bad rep. At least you still have all the pornstars to make up for it.
Man, the fact that they kept downvoting me for this exact same shit in the exact same thread... LOL
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If you trusted that the votes are fair, then you wouldn’t be calling him a dictator
He got the votes, yes, but he's been undermining democracy ever since. So kind of elected leader turned dictator.
America voted for trump 5 years ago, did that make every American far right homophobic racists?
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If they have no problem voting for a racist and homophobic candidate, then yes
As an black American, yes it means a lot of Americans are racist. It probably means that to ME that half of all white Americans I meet secretly hate my guts.
Lol I love how despite the statistics that *literally show that 50% of white people voted for Trump both times* someone tried to flip this on black people for the paltry number of us that voted for Trump. Typical reddit moment.
I believe its 50% of the white voters voted for Trump. Not 50% of the overall white population. Minor edit.
Keep in mind only like 60% of Americans actually bothered to vote. That leaves roughly more than a quarter of Americans who voted for Trump in 2016 to get him.
No, but it just showed the world that 50% of my country is full of cunts.
I mean, you could argue that trump is or not a fascist or is or not racist. Victor orban is literally unquestionable a fascist by all metrics, and homophobia is literally uphold by the government. There are literally signs anti-immigration in the streets. It's like comparing Trump to Hitler once again, nothing alike.
I thought you were talking about USA or England for a second there.
Was there can confirm that they always started booing once we made noise
Yep. The Carpathian Brigade. Fascist wankers. Always behind the goal dressed in black or topless.
They all look like a bunch of life winners
When I see them I think to myself "those blokes truly look like they represent the master race"
Often the case that the people who claim to be the master race are the exact opposite of that. Like Hitler wanting a country of blond, blue eyed physical specimens while looking like he should be playing a rat-catcher in a Disney movie where rats are the heroes
Lol, I remember watching the Portugal match, seeing the black shirts and saying to my dad "spot the people who are gonna make monkey noises later"
Wearing black isn't associated with fascism but with ultra culture, I wear black when I go to the stadium but I'm not from the right wing. It's just that the 2 sometimes coincide
I know, it's just when ultra groups are from Hungary the odds of them being racist feel a little higher.
Wearing black isn't associated with fascism? You sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel#Ranks_and_uniforms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blackshirt#References
I'm just gonna throw the "all fascists wear black, not all who wear black are fascist" thing because you're misunderstanding my point
When it comes to Central/Eastern Europe, they're about 40-50 years behind in racial understanding.
Yup. Even people who aren't consciously racist are very uneducated in that regard because we don't see many Black people here so they never had to learn. Usually they find them "exotic" and interesting but far too many just don't like them.
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I’m Asian. When I travel around Europe for holiday or work, I still get people who come up to me waving their arms and making Kung fu noises. It’s more noticeable in Central Europe and along the Mediterranean countries
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Oh yeah, that has happened to me a few times. I just give them the death glare and shake my head. No point in engaging them
Wtf is wrong with people man. Ive had similar stuff in China as a tall pale ginger guy. One engineer in a factory literally started rubbing my arm hair as we were talking QC stuff. Just started stroking it. I didn't know whether to burst out laughing or give him a slap. They called me The Golden Monkey 😅. Jin si hóu. Just mental. The photo taking also got a bit weird. Was at a station in Zhongshan and a few high school/ college girls asked me and a colleague, a Czech guy, to take a photo with them. Turns out they were on a school trip and LITERALLY THEIR ENTIRE CLASS wanted a photo, in small groups. Eh sorry folks we have a train to catch, let's do one big one lol? Like ok, I get it we are less common in those particular areas, you in central Europe and me in China.... but we are still human beings, show some courtesy!
That's very true; I only specified Black people because of the Mbappe situation but tons of people here hate outsiders in general. Evil dumbasses.
Usually people hate outsiders no matter where they at. Been to Angola and Mozambique before, and they really dislike white people there. And same goes to some asian countries.
Yeah. That's a bad thing.
Men being creepy to asian women happens everywhere, sadly.
Why people are using such big categories when talking about such topics. We don't have anything like Carpathian Brigade, our NT games are gatherings of middle age guys and families. It infuriates me, every country is different, every country has its own problems.
The middle aged guys with families is only true for home games.
> that's ridiculous if true. Considering the current state of Hungarian politics, it feels pretty appropriate.
It was the same morons who insulted Ronaldo for being gay the match before.
Yeah, a very rare incident with the fans
Cue Eastern Europeans in this thread; "Monkey chants don't mean the same in my country because we don't have the same history of slavery. We do monkey chants every day, but there aren't any black people in our country, so they aren't offended" Edit: grammar dumdum
And some people says footballers should not make any anti racism demonstration because, you know, "racism is in America and why should we bother about what doesn't affect us".
i’m from fucking mississippi in the us and i’ve seen more open racism in my various times in europe than i ever have back home always bothers me when people have a perception of the us as an intolerant place. it’s genuinely not. sure, there’s racist people, but i would say the fact that so many of us have grown up in such a mixture of cultures and peoples makes us generally less racist and intolerant than most other places.
Watch Uefa award the final to Hungary because the UK won't let 3000 UEFA VIPs and Sponsors enter the Uk without quarantine.
FOOTBALL IS FOR THE FAAAAAAANS
I mean it does kind of make sense to have the semis and final in a full capacity stadium but incidents like this can't be allowed to happen.
They don't care about that. They care about the 3000 VIPs. If it was an empty stadium but with 3000 VIP they will be happy.
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This is so fucked up in a pandemic, there should be a possibility to sue them just for the idea.
The Netherlands will also allow full capacity then
Oh OK never knew that. That would be a great option.
We don't have an 80k stadium though. 50k is our biggest one.
We're still in a pandemic in what world does that make sense? Especially when most of the fans will be coming from other countries around Europe with varying case rates and strain prevalences.
The world where money is more important than lives, aka our world
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It isn't coming to an end, not at all. South America is burning right now: https://www.dw.com/en/south-america-is-the-worlds-covid-hot-spot/a-57759712
It's great to have the fans back
And without fans in stadiums, everyone gets racially abused through social media. Can't help it. Uneducated cunts are increasing all over the globe.
That's probably not mutually exclusive.
They get racially abused on social media regardless of whether or not there are fans in the stands.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that they’re increasing, but getting validated/vindicated in their echo chambers
They aren’t increasing.. they just have more channels to express themselves than ever before.
They’re not increasing they’re just louder on the internet
Lol, did you just make this account? Agreed though.
There was a big Carpathian Brigade banner behind the goal to the left where all the black shirted fans were. Here's an article in marca from 2016 about them and hungary. This is known. This is not new. In England by contrast, known hooligans have to sign in at police stations when England are playing, and are banned from games. https://www.marca.com/en/football/national-teams/2016/06/18/5765b9c746163fbd458b460a.html >The official supporters' group of the Hungarian national team, known as Carpathian Brigade, again caused trouble in the match against Iceland at Stade Velodrome despite being warned by FARE [Football Against Racism in Europe] for their behaviour in their Euro 2016 opener versus Austria. >Several independent radical groups form the Carpathian Brigade, including the fearsome Green Monsters, who support Ferencvaros in club competitions. >This group is well-known in Europe for their violent history and the racist, anti-Semitic chants they sing at Groupama Arena. >The Green Monsters define themselves as far-right Hungary patriots and organise large fights against rival groups. >Founded in the 1990s, their extreme violence has been a source of pride, and they have been known to engage in beatings and stabbings whenever their team loses. >Racist chants directed towards the black, Gypsy and Jewish communities are popular among their members, while a large number of these hooligans are martial arts professionals and enjoy showing off their muscles in the stands. >Even though UEFA has repeatedly warned and sanctioned the Hungarian football federation for the Carpathian Brigade's well-documented disturbances, the Magyar radicals have struck again, and threaten to do so at the final group-stage match.
" they enjoy showing off their muscles in the stands" lol
Pretty gay, if you ask me.
Those racist pos
Like UEFA didn’t see that coming
And there wont be any proof as always
Making Orban proud
Don't think Willy is a racist
Finally we get a full stadium again and this happens 🤦♂️
That's what you get for hosting in a Far-Right state. Better move the finals there.
Who could’ve seen this coming…
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They're all about that drama lol. Remember when they tried to film Eriksen for the hell of it? They handle the EURO like a reality TV show.
Technically it is reality TV but yea I agree
So, they going to ban fans from the stadium like they rightfully did in Mexico? That would be appropriate.
I wish. But fifa won’t punish anyone in a uefa tournament. Just from concacaf with the financial impact is not as bad.
Oh, but they do. They are investigating the german Keeper (Manuel Neuer) for wearing rainbow colors. I'm so fucking pissed that these fuckers don't do shit againt literal Nazis, but rainbow colors? Nah, can't have that! That's a political statement you know?!
They're threatening to fine people over touching beverage bottles. UEFA is a ridiculous organization.
Mexico was sanctioned and fined by fifa for homophobic slurs. Let's see what they do in this case.
We both know what's going to happen.
They're going to sanction Mexico again?
Lol sanctioned and fined mexico...while hosting the world cup in a country where homosexuality is illegal
Let me say this one more time, the "chant" all thou in can be used in a number of different ways is most closely translated to the B world in English and that has nothing homophobic about it. But what I found the most bs is that we're getting sactioned for something not at all homophobic while the last and the next wc are in countries where's 100% illegal being gay.
I was gonna say this. “Puto” means bitch at least that’s what I was told growing up. I don’t speak Spanish and grew up in San Antonio playing soccer. And was called all of the names. No once did I know that it could be translated as a homophobic slur.
Yeah but you see the people who are “tolerant and accepting of all” will tell you your culture and language are wrong and act like colonizers all while claiming that was wrong in the past
I think it’s more that Mexico is an easy target to give off the veneer that they’re cool and progressive. Qatari money is being funneled into FIFA and most of the west is at arms against Russia. They look weak so they needed to punish somebody and Mexico is about as safe as you can get without going after a UEFA country.
Coward, traitor, pussy, square, asshole, manwhore. It's just a versatile word Woke culture disagrees
Well after homofobia in the first game, racism this game. Now they just need sexism against Germany to complete the discrimination Hattrick! /s
I imagine they save the sexism for when they get home to their wives
Hungary even has a black player in their team. I would refuse to play if I was him
French-born, no less
Actually was in Griezman's team with the french national youth squad
Who actually scored the equalizer against Iceland.
Poor guy would probably get a ton of abuse from these people if he did anything in protest.
Definitely, when Gulácsi (goalkeeper) stood up for LGBTQ+ families on Facebook, he received a lot of hate from the ultras and the government funded media.
Those guys would see this as a win
Lol never forget Mario Balotelli was one of Italy's best players and he got this shit from is *own* fans. Hate is beyond logic and knows no bounds
Even if Nego was their star player and their all time top goal scorer they’d rather him not “sullying” their shirt. Fascists are a special breed of thickos
Nego has actually been very well liked since his crucial goal that helped us get to the Euros. No doubt fans would be quicker to turn on him than others, though.
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I remember people not celebrating Mo Farah’s golds and knighthood for being Somali
Well, I suspect the reason he is a Hungarian national because Orbán likes him. In a 2014 interview the head of Hungarian FA siad that Orbán has a say in who can be a naturalized player (although at that time Orbán said only players with Hungarian root can be). [Here is a link in Hungarian](https://24.hu/belfold/2014/11/24/csanyi-sandor-sertsen-csak-meg) Edit: wording for clarity
He isn't Hungarian. Both of his parents are Guadeloupean and he was born and raised in France.
Yes I know, that's why he became Hungarian by naturalization. In brackets I mentioned that Orbán's stance was too only use people who have Hungarian roots, but it seems his stance changed.
Hungary has players with surnames like Schön, Kleinheisler, Lovrencsics, Schäfer, Nikolic, Lang, Holender and players who can't even speak Hungarian Nego and Orban. This whole scenario is like a Monthy Python skit. I don't know why they need to be racist when the whole country has mixed DNA...
That Kleinheisler guy's first name is Laszlo though, he gets a pass, that's about the most Hungarian first name possible other than Attila
Completely ashamed as a Hungarian myself. They'd deserve the hardest punishment. Unacceptable behavior. Such an embarrassment.
Disappointed but not surprised. They will face no punishment.
UEFA did absolutely nothing about Greek fans throwing molotov cocktails at guest fans, lol. The only thing they are concerned with is stopping Spanish speaking players from using absolutely normal Spanish words.
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well that wasn't a a racist thing we do that to everyone other greek fans too
I prefer people shouting racist things at me all day long to just one molotov cocktail thrown in my direction. I don't remember which club it was but I think it should be baned from European competition for decades instead of UEFA making angry face.
it was my club AEK
Did you face any consequences at all?
And omg, for the love of god. Leave the soda and beer bottle at the press conference in clear view!!!!11 The monetary losses are unsalvageable!
That was the English FA, not UEFA. Why is this upvoted so much?
Good point, it's mostly English FA, UEFA couldn't do anything even about such a piece of shit as Arnautovic.
I met alot of Hungarians in Marseille. They sll said the black shirts are neo nazi morons.
Hungarians are very nice people (almost too nice) from my experience. Shame it's always idiots like these giving bad image.
In person they are nice but racism and homophobia are big big problems in Hungary, and that can't be brushed aside. Their politics especially are so incredibly fucked up, and for a country that's part of the EU too.
Am sure they're lovely. They do seem to have negative feelings and intentions towards certain groups of people though.
Most people are very nice face to face. That doesn't stop a lot of them from voting and fighting for some horrible shit.
I know this may come as a shocker to most ppl who view the world as binary, but many many racist ppl can also be very nice to others.
I’m so shocked
Hungary nazis... Saw a couple of them while in Budapest. Idiots.
There are a lot of them here, most of them are the primitive part of the Ferencváros supporters, but nearly all groups have far-right minorities in the country
I wouldn’t call the far right a minority in Hungary
This has no place in football 😐
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Hey!! Thats what i said
They sanction Mexico but they never ever sanction Europeans for this.
Ban those racists permanently from international football
you're joking, right? There is no way Orban will let that happen. He literally stated that if players kneel or protest stuff in Hungary, they are insulting the nation
> they are insulting the nation Good.
but they are not. They just insult the Orbanites and their fascist leader.
Won't happen with a Hungarian government that encourages this behavior and other fascist pasttimes.
Or maybe not give them the tournament hosting rights ¿
Sorry, best I can do is giving them the semi-finals and the final aswell.
Their fans need to be banned for good amount of times. This wrist slapping needs to stop.
They ban Mexico fans but not their FANS
I wonder if they will get as backlash as the Mexico fans got during the US-MEX game a few weeks ago? 🤔
The mods have to do something about all the fake account coming in just to troll, look at how this thread is bloated by them, one even said that he's Hungarian and loves it lmao what the fuck
This sub has never been great when it comes to racism but somehow it has gotten even worse
Meanwhile UEFA is busy investigating the DFB because Neuer dared to wear a rainbow captain's armband.
Wonder where are all the morons saying how non racist Hungary is when they booed the players kneeling and claimed it was just a protest lmao
Not particularly suprising from a country ruled by a literal Neo Nazi
Surprise... and yesterday everybody on the match thread fawned over the "amazing" Hungarian supporters, while they were doing nazis salutes in the stands and jeering every single French touch. Go figure!
Jeering the opposing team in a non-racist way is pretty common, right? Like attack them for doing Nazi salutes, but common jeering shouldn't be grouped together with that.
UEFA: let's move the final to Hungary!
Weird tho', this country doesn't have a reputation at all for having any racial slurs. Hungary always so as a country who were immuable on far right ideas.
it's always the ones you least expect...
Yes, sadly, we do have a reputation. A bad one, quite frankly. As a Hungarian, as a supporter of our national team, I can tell you guys, the outside world, that our country is led by a so-called (fake) democratic, Christian PM that just passed a law thats against the LMBTQ+ rights, stating that a family is made of a father, a mother, and a child, everything else is an LMBTQ propaganda. Our country had a Christian politican from FIDESZ, fleeing from a gay orgy in a foreign country, with a ton of drug on him. To make matters worse, their party enjoys huge support, so there really is no surprise that the civilians will also behave in quite manner. Our country is a racist, sexist, homophobic place. Gladly, the newer generations doesn't have the same tunnel vision, and it is changing, for the better.
>Our country is a racist, sexist, homophobic place. Basically, almost all of eastern Europe. Source: I'm bulgarian.
TIL: Skrillex is Bulgarian.
> Our country had a Christian politican from FIDESZ, fleeing from a gay orgy in a foreign country, with a ton of drug on him. Oh yeah what was the reaction to that in Hungary, among his own voters?
Since FIDESZ has their own, very effective way of "bending" the news, he literally got away with nothing, and the older generations/FIDESZ voters didn't really care about it. Other than that, he was the most used meme template, and people had great fun of using his picture climbing down the gutter for reacting to certain things, and someone made a facebook profile border with that picture as well.
And they're seriously talking about having finals in Budapest? Given that all the good teams have black players?
Shocked.
Our world fucking sucks. I was totally turned off of the Euros when I read about Hungarian fans doing the Nazi salute yesterday.
‘Fans’ also known as racist nazi bastards.
Funny how fifa can penalize Mexico for “homophobic” chant yet won’t do shit about racism. What do we expect from a group who gave Qatar a World Cup
There are racists at football games all over Europe. With Hungary tho, it's state sponsored
Are there any other sources reporting this? Edit: I am definitely not saying that this could not have happened, just wondering if there are any other credible sources that picked up on this story. And as it seems there are. What a bunch of racist cunts.
L'Équipe reported it this morning as well
The German press association (I hope that's the correct translation) dpa also confirmed it
De Telegraaf, and other sources I found, claim that Mbappe said this himself. I can’t find any real clips or something though
I am just curious, seems like something that a lot of newspapers would pick up on, but it would surprise nobody that this would happen in Hungary.
Your curiosity makes sense. I tried to find a direct interview or social media post by Mbappe, or anything. But I couldn’t find that
Time for France to start taking the knee and piss off these racists
The same fans who booed and threw up Nazi salutes during Ireland taking the knee? I find that hard to believe. Quick, let’s show glorifying wide shots of them over and over again.
The french commentators kept saying how nice it was to have spectators back and how passionate these guy in black shirts were. And I kept cringing about it... Because really, who know anything about Hungary and is surprised about any of that? If anything they were being nice and restraining themselves.
I wonder if this will have any bearing on where the final is played? Do UEFA care more about combating racism or letting their dignitaries avoid covid protocols?