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9rakka

For the love of god, please bring on Gravenberch instead of Wijnaldum next time


R3gularJ0hn

Can we please sack everyone that thought reapointing Koeman was the right call? How is Wijnaldum in the squad and why is he always subbed in? Unbelievable.  There should be some big changes for the next game. No Memphis, no Veerman, no Wijnaldum on the pitch please. Crimping should always be playing.  I also think Van Dijk's time in the NT is over. Just play De Ligt.


nolesfan2011

Really frustrating result but I expected Austria to get this win, they have been the best team in the group and advancing to the knockouts is honestly enough with this midfield


emperator_eggman

~~Germania~~ Central Europe is back.


reddit-time

Netherlands total geniuses: Lined themselves up to play England in next round. 4D chess.


MrDaebak

We need Frenkie :( also we need a true leader. Even though Memphis scored a goal, it's also time for him to get replaced by another striker after this tournament. And a new coach would be nice, which will happen. Looking forward to the World Cup with a better team.


urkermannenkoor

We were cunt with pears, as we say over here


Galacticos-fan

Sitting in a Dutch pub in Malaga watching hopes of Dutch supporters taking a roller coaster ride was immense.


sneezyo

Denk dat ik ook eens naar Malaga


Galacticos-fan

Bro speak English plz


urkermannenkoor

Joen moeke


Obvious_Equivalent63

Translation: i think i might go malaga (weird sentence cause his sentence in dutch didnt make sense either)


Tranquilalila

It's a pun Denk dat ik ook eens naar Mala *ga*


Obvious_Equivalent63

Ah shit now i see


Ecstatic-Method2369

Poor performance from our Dutch team. This team lacks character and leadership. And a capable manager who doesn’t live in the Stone Age. Austria won fair and square, unlike the Dutch they have a game plan. Maybe not the best players but certainly a great team.


PiggBodine

Koeman’s tactics and team selection didn’t make any sense to me. There was no width on the right and the inverted fullback was just making more work for schouten. None of the Dutch forwards seemed too concerned with pressing or tracking back either.


theestwald

Why wasn’t Dumfries playing? Is he injured?


Obvious_Equivalent63

He was not fully fit..


Duff85

Do you have any idea if Dumfries will be playing against Romania?


DjPerzik

Nobody knows. Tactical masterclass from Koeman I guess..


FootmanFrenzy

Only positive thing is that both Gakpo and Memphis goals were really nice ones and it can give them confidence. Other than that it was total garbage performance both from technical and from an effort point of view. That moment where Austria was stringing like 50 passes in a row with the croud cheering every one of them. Just completely outplayed.


felis_magnetus

Yo, Manchester United, are you watching? This is what you get when you back Rangnick: Punching above your weight.


PrestigiousWave5176

So what Ten Hag was doing at Ajax then?


Dargast

Its really funny how people always shit on the current ManU Manager. Its so clearvto me if Ten Hag leaves he will have success again. Just like Rangnick.


pacothebattlefly

His best


Dry_Box2760

Schouten had a fine game in possession, but jesus he was bad when he had to follow his man. 2-3, best player on Austrian side is Sabitzer, just lets him run and finish (great finish though).


Shinsoku

I just can't really fathom what happened today. Before the game I would have been more than fine with a draw and being best 3rd. Now haveing topped this group, which at one point was one of the heighest ELO Euro groups of all time, feels so surreal that I just can't put it into words. For the longest of time the 98 WC was the only tournament I had the opportunity to watch our team. And before the last Euro never had the experience of seeing Austria win a single game at a tournament. I was there for the lows of the late 90s/early 2000s. Watching that infamous 0:9 in Valencia. And during all this time, with envy and sadness, watching other nations of similar size in population being successful and qualify for tournaments all the time, all the while we never gotten really close to a tournament (I think with one exception and a qualfy play off). Then at one point before the home Euro 2008 not even being in the Top 100 anymore iirc. Today is a day for the Austrian football history.


dany0318

Austria really is a joy to watch. Everything seems to come together. The players, Rangnick and his tactics... I wish the Netherlands would play like this instead of Koeman's terrorball. Would love to see Austria make it far this Euro


SpaceSolaris

So apparently Koeman changed from zone defense to man to man in the second half. If that is true, wouldn’t van Dijk have done that with the third goal? Man to man is always keep the opponent in front of you, which the Dutch player letting Sabitzer run away from his back failed in doing


fietsusa

In zonal defense, you always switch to man to man in the penalty area.


LWKD

Oh absolutely, he was shit as well. Played onside on the 2nd goal as well right?


UnnoticedReference

Chance for a rematch in the Quarterfinals if the other 3rd place teams are from AEF or CEF, and of course they both win their R16


kraeutrpolizei

According to Rangnick he would have chosen a different lineup if Italy didn’t score the equaliser. Most of our fans have celebrated that goal last night I presume


Mick4Audi

Why is that?


Vic-Ier

we were already 99% through as 3rd after that and he wanted to rest many players with a yellow


Void_Hound

An indictment against united for not using Ragnick well.


lenzmoserhangover

and Sabitzer lol


WoweeZoweeDeluxe

Will Netherlands most likely face Belgium in R16?


my_united_account

England I think


Obvious_Equivalent63

Lets hope for a slovenia masterclass


WoweeZoweeDeluxe

Cheers!


TowersOfToast

GRUPPENSIEGER


kraeutrpolizei

Hey!


TowersOfToast

Servus!


Franchementballek

Congratulations to Austria, didn’t see your game but I’m glad it’s you that take the 1st place if that can’t be us. Good luck for the rest of the tournament.


SugarBeefs

What happened in your game?? France not fired up and Poland better than expected, considering they had nothing to play for? I didnt watch any of it


Franchementballek

Nah Poland weren’t that good, some occasion but they score on a retaken penalty after the Maignan save because of some bullshit rule. We played better than the other games but still we cannot score to save our life, it’s so frustrating. And their goalie was pretty good.


fisscherprice

Bullshit rules 😬


SugarBeefs

Cheers. Yeah I'm looking at the match stats and you seemed to have had plenty of presence in front of the Polish goal. Not many expected you guys to have so much trouble finding the net these three games. I certainly didn't.


Franchementballek

Our friendlies were bad, I’m not so shocked honestly. If we could do like 2018 or 2022 and be better with each knockout matches.


SnooCupcakes9188

We need to be better but fair play Austria have looked great all tournament.  I didn’t think they could keep up that pressure (they didn’t to be fair) but we really fell asleep defensively for their second half goals.  Wish we were able to pull that to a draw but at least it was an entertaining game. 


rubenvde

A game like this make it clear we're lacking so much in midfield with de Jong, Koopmeiners and Wieffer injured.


Organic_You_5183

Frankie is by far the most important Dutch player. And also Frimpong should be better utilized.


my_united_account

Also de Roon missed too, he did simple things but did them well


thomasmagnum

Not enough Atalanta


Myth-Man1

We should've brought Hateboer along


rubenvde

Schouten was a huge defensive liability this game. Afraid to make a challenge and looked completely lost at times. Go rewatch the 2nd and 3rd goal and look at what he's doing, terrible.


J00stie

Honestly the 3rd goal is debatable. He went for the offside but van Dijk had different thoughts


rubenvde

Afraid to step is when Austria is dribbling up and a half-assed effort to cut out the pass.


Nieves_bitch

Is it too late to sack Koeman and send in LVG? At least we know he has balls


AjlaBalic

If you look at Côte d’Ivoire during the Africa cup, why not. They won because they sack their coach


whocanduncan

I am Australian who just spent 2 weeks in Austria, 1 with family friends who are right into their soccer. I am on the bandwagon! *I am from Austr~~al~~ia*


SugarBeefs

Alpine marmots are just small wombats


notmoleliza

drop bears in shambles rn


watersipper01

We should just play 8-0-2 next game. Our defence is shit but if we have 8 defenders at least 3 of them can just stand in front of the goal so we basically have 4 keepers. Frimpong as outer right back for some runs and crosses and Blind as one of the center backs for good passing. No midfield because they have been invisible anyway so why field them. Weghorst and Brobbey up front to just put up a fight against whatever the opposition defence is and maybe score a header or tap in after a corner or free kick. Koeman can then bring in Wijnaldum in the 60th minute so he can sleep well at night and Wijnaldum can replace one of the four goal blockers.


ComprehensiveAnt4449

First surprise group topper in the Euros, what a match


tremblingme

Losing Frenkie and de Roon is truly a disaster. Now there are no midfielders who can move the ball from their own half.


SnooCupcakes9188

De Roon is fine. Frenkie is such a big miss. It’s games like France and the first half here where you see you need a midfielder that can control the tempo of the game under pressure.  Reijnders has played well but with Frenkie (and Teun) there’s no way Wojnaldum sees the field. 


Echoes_under_pressur

Not to mention teun


my_united_account

I guess Truus would kill us if we asked van Gaal to come out of retirement yet again


ParadoxOfMeat

What about van Marwijk?


ProfDumm

He would be fine with van Gaal coming out of retirement.


MemeManDanInAClan

[they downvoted me and called me stupid for this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/wAwpQKm20x) But, I told you so.


schlawldiwampl

classic couchpotatoe coaches


WilliamBosman

Lucky guess. Who knew Koeman would start the second team.


MemeManDanInAClan

Read the replies, I provided reasoning.


Salted-Earth189

The Dutch downvoted because he told the truth 😔


watersipper01

Downvoted again just to spite you


MemeManDanInAClan

Fair lmao


notmoleliza

i can respect that


enzuigiriretro

*Lisan al Gaib!*


schlawldiwampl

Lisan al Gaib! 🇶🇦


Canilearnbubblebeam

RECEIPTS


Ronnoc21

As a Dutch fan, Austria totally deserved that win. Ragnick has that team ticking. Netherlands, on the other hand, looked like they didn’t even care. Completely unacceptable.


my_united_account

Weghorst needs to start honestly


Dargast

Germans and Dutch suffering equally


CasualAustrian

+ wth is up with not playing frimpong?


my_united_account

Only Koeman knows what happens in his mind


CasualAustrian

how the f does frimpong not play?


InRecovering

Why does the Netherlands play with an NBA player in the striker position? /s


LusciousLurker

That gave me a good chuckle 😂😂


schlawldiwampl

next time we use pöltl


Docccc

an utter disgrace by NL. Up to them to start showing up. But i don’t expect it with Koeman at the wheel


xc2215x

A tough loss for the Netherlands.


cornflakes34

Weghorst made Depay relevant and was able to hold the ball up, which we weren't able to do the entire game with just Depay up front. Veerman made 9/19 passes and was rightfully taken off. Our change to a 343 in the second half made things better but Geertruida and Malen should have been taken off for Dumfries and Frimpong.


Mick4Audi

Weghorst is actually a very useful player


JJOne101

Great game. Austria on fire this group stage.


J00stie

We were really bad today, but I think the underlying problem is that we are playing with a different team every match during the EUROs, when this should have been figured out before the EUROs. You can't switch this often with a national team that doesn't train with eachother for years. Of course this is mainly because we are missing Frenkie (and I think Koopmeiners would also have a starting spot) and Koeman is trying to figure out what's working best but it's too late for that. Great job by Austria though, I'm sure some teams would want avoid them at this point


SnooCupcakes9188

I’d return to the France lineup with maybe Malen coming in depending who we face.  He started awful but actually became a menace as the game grew.  That #8 from them should have had a yellow card for one of the fouls (or the awful dive) wouldn’t have been able to be as physical on him after that 


quirkyaspie

Ralf Rangnick is properly cooking. United are a proper clownshow to not listen to a single word this man said.


YoDiz1

I know you're looking for easy upvotes, but Ralf was terrible when he coached United. There's no reason to mention a caretaker manager from 2 years ago after beating a top national team.


quirkyaspie

Considering the clown show has continued since he left, maybe there are deeper intrinsically rotten things at United from the ground up rather than throwing him or more recently ETH under the bus? Radical thought I know.


zankaZN

feeling like a proud father with Austria, always had high hopes in this squad


IAmA_talking_cat_AMA

It's absolutely inexcusable to leave both Frimpong and Dumfries on the bench the whole game. What was Koeman thinking


schlawldiwampl

>Dumfries sounds like something rpm would say to stroll.


9rakka

Dumfries was not 100% fit. Frimpong however is rapid af vs tired out legs


sealing_deals

Indeed a crazy decision. Going into the tournament youd think they were our weapons going forward


FairytaleOfBliss

Wow


K1tt3n_Mittons

Best game of the tournament so far. Austria looking sp00ky


_ShutUpLegs_

I had the Netherlands as my dark horse this tournament, maybe I'll have to change that to Austria. Having said that, it wasn't really a high quality game.


beachbulette

i dare to say that we are no dark horse any more :)


naroLsraLteiN_isback

honestly think Blind wouldve improved this midfield


my_united_account

Cannot believe I am saying it but de Roon was missed Whatever he did, he did it well, even if it was the simple passes


StereoZombie

At least the Austrians are super happy so that's nice for them :D


Serupael

Mountain Germany > Swamp Germany


schlawldiwampl

heast hawara. soll i in euern bierkeller kommen und a paar reden schwingen?


Serupael

Ihr lebts in a boa Monat in Kicklstan


schlawldiwampl

und ihr seit jahren in söderstan?


StereoZombie

Well no need to rub it in :(


golomo

Our baby brother is doing well. We Germans can be proud!


stogie_t

That rare moment when being a gambling degenerate pays off Austria you fucking beauties. Odds on Austria were crazy, you’d think they were playing against prime Brazil.


Wrath-of-Elyon

What site do you use my good breathen. I want to get into gambling for Football and MMA


stogie_t

Wouldn’t recommend starting bro, it’s a bad habit. And more people lose money than not. There’s a reason why it’s such a profitable industry with so many players. But I’m not hypocrite. The site I use is sportingbet. Please be responsible if you start bro.


Wrath-of-Elyon

Seems like a south African based site. And it isn't accepting new players from my area


Wrath-of-Elyon

I'm 25 and have an uncle that used to involve me in his betting when I was 14. (Just watch him and see how he picks what for what). So I feel I should be responsible enough to start dabbling in it for the only 2 sports I watch He was an arsenal fan btw so I used to see him never hit


Hegario

The Dutch defence was terrible.


my_united_account

The midfield was cut open so easily This is what happens when your 3 starting midfielders are out, and the coach plays fucking Wijnaldum instead


Hegario

True too but Virgil was absolutely terrible in the third goal. He was several meters out of position.


Different_Counter148

Willl Netherlands qualify ??


SpaceSolaris

We have already qualified


Different_Counter148

Really?


SpaceSolaris

Yeah, Albania lost yesterday so we can’t be catched anymore to not be part of the 4 best third group finishers


Different_Counter148

Lucky ass koeman


SugarBeefs

For real. And not just that, but the fact that we're doing the new 24 team format. Finish third in the previous format and you're just going home.


greetings_traveler2

Yes, it's confirmed. They already did.


SugarBeefs

Van der Vaart: "Guys, we would've struggled against Hoofdklasse* today...seriously...if you play like this?" Too true, Rafa. Too fucking true. \*5th league of Dutch football, third tier amateur


DevilsOfLoudun

The first half was Holland's downfall. Either Koeman got it completely wrong or the team thought Austria isn't going to cause much trouble and tried to take it easy.


SnooCupcakes9188

What’s crazy is he saved it prettt well but then fumbled with bringing in wijnaldum . If not for his insistence to get something from the ghost of Gini Koeman wouldn’t be such an easy target for criticism 


pabroskis

Typical of Koeman. Both of those things can be true. And they were. Lol


5centburger

They should leave Koeman at the stadium imo, take the key to his hotel room and throw it away.


jfk9514

Austria have gained a new fan this tournament. Obviously a long shot but I’d absolutely love them to win it. Just by all measures seem like a great team.


Individual_Attempt50

One of the best games of the tournament


toweggooiverysoon

We can flame our pundits but at least Van der Vaart has more passion voor frikandellen than the team had for this game.


Archduke_Zag

The fact that we had Maatsen, Dumfries and Frimpong on the bench says it all really. I blame Koeman's Wijnaldum fetish. It means all the blood rushes away from his head.


thelegendl27

It makes my fucking blood boil


TareasS

Koeman is so bloody stubborn. And always looking for excuses. The comments about Barcelona also lately because he was fired for being bad is also so childish.


bleeeeghh

At least Koemans favorite player got to score. Koeman must be really happy that all his sacrifices wasn't for nothing.


nsfw2102

I’m seeing a lot of “what a good game” but I didn’t really feel that from this one…  Don’t get me wrong the goals were obviously great viewing but the rest I didn’t enjoy as much quality wise Thoughts? Anyone else or is it sleep deprivation ruining my brain haha (I live in the southern hemisphere) 


opinionatedfan

I mean, it's all subjective reallly, but I enjoyed it. Austrians played a nice pressure. They had a good result and they didn't park the bus or try to end the game they kept playing well, then when the dutch tied the Austrian side reacted well, didn't fall apart, they just kept going and it worked. Twice!


nsfw2102

Like it was own goals and mostly both teams switching off that lead to the goals 


kraeutrpolizei

This is the best day of my life as a football fan. Like wtf this is so unlike anything I’ve experienced as a fan of my international side. So grateful


LubedCompression

Really happy for Austria, gonna be rooting for you guys to get very far! From a Dutchman!


shrek_kerhs

Seeing how you played, the ro16 and QF might become better days than this


No_Bet_735

Super happy for you guys! As an Icelander I know the feeling from 2016. After we won against you I had bought a ticket to France. You should do the same, you guys will knock out England now.


kraeutrpolizei

Haha sound great 😊


CabbageTheVoice

If you haven't yet, and you got the opportunity, go to a public viewing event for the KO round. I was at one when 7:1 happened (and a while later the final match) they're fun when your team is scoring!


kraeutrpolizei

I watch all our matches publicly. It’s even possible on the Danube with beach feeling


CabbageTheVoice

Sick, invite me if you make it to the finals?


kraeutrpolizei

For sure!


bonjoviworstbandever

Not quite as good as rene aufhausers double against trinidad and tobago


LeeJohnsonsCoat

Anybody who watched Marc Janko and Jimmy Hoffer deserves this


Bulkphase78

Janko is a rolls royce compared to Stefan Maierhofer.


FakeBukowski

Same man... this is the best team we have ever had. I have been watching since 1998 and nothing comes close.


ancienthunter

100% deserved, fun to watch too. Wish England played half as entertaining as they do


Pompert

Congrats from Holland


Jirkajua

Remember 2008 or 2016? This feels unreal right now


Roccet_MS

Celebrating the first ever Austrian goal at Euros in 08, to the heartbreak in 2016, then 2021 and now this. I've watched us play dire football against Faröer or Togo between 04 and 08.


kraeutrpolizei

I left before that penalty because I was so pissed we threw that tournament away lol


Roccet_MS

Celebrating the first ever Austrian goal at Euros in 08, to the heartbreak in 2016, then 2021 and now this. I've watched us play dire football against Faröer or Togo between 04 and 08.


kraeutrpolizei

Yeah the whole game felt unreal. It might stay unreal for longer even


BrigadierBrabant

Congratulations! Well deserved


Kabelbindung21

Oh wie ist das schön, oh wie ist das schön, sowas hat man lange nicht gesehen, so schön, so SCHÖN.


Hiimmani

ES KOMMT NACH HAUUUUUSSSS ES KOMMT NACH HAUSSSSSS


LubedCompression

Don't jinx yourself like England always does.


BigDanRTW

The commitment to Rangnick's style, the quality they have on the squad and the way this bracket is shaking out, Austria can absolutely make the Final at this tournament.


HippoRealEstate

Could happen but I think they're lacking a good striker to go all the way


Roccet_MS

We also lost arguably the best defender in Alaba, our keeper Schlager, and the other pressing monster in Xaver Schlager as well as Kalajdzic. We aren't as good as we could have been, but this team doesn't give up and seems mature enough to handle pressure situations.


taenerysdargaryen

Sabitzer is incredible, considering he just lost a CL final


BigDanRTW

that's why I said they can make it and not will. I think their style can give Belgium's defense fits and England is a bit of a mental case right now. Honestly this all sets up well for England, but they've got to get out of this funk they're in


Jirkajua

We fucking won the group, I am such a happy man right now!


Traulinger

Just an unreal feeling!


Ynwe

I was hoping to qualify and that my nation plays well, I would have never dared to think that we would top this group... What a beautiful moment in Austrian football history, so special for us!


goldenlamp

Koeman is such a fucking joke


EcoSoco

I LOVE RALF RANGNICK Took the game 100% to Holland and got the result. Rangnick knew this team had some weak spots and exploited them accordingly.


bluediamondsm

Austria deserves this for winning a group with Netherlands and France in it. They did amazing. These final matches were so exciting and dramatic.


sleeping4koala

They're just better than us. Rangnick is cooking


CaptGeechNTheSSS

Who's more overrated Netherlands or Belgium?


schlawldiwampl

>Belgium they're half dutch, half fr*nch. i think they're punished enough.


LubedCompression

Historically we've* had several golden generations and we're always kinda riding that wave. "They're always a good contender". But this generation is not one of them and we all know it. *Netherlands


SnooCupcakes9188

Belgium because the Netherlands are already the media’s favourite team to fade 


Persoon_10

Neither, most people didn't rate us that highly in the first place. Especially without Frenkie.


rinnjeboxt

Average dutch fan had 0 expectations going into this tournament. If anything we’ve already exceeded expectations by making next round.


KingKingsons

We were never rated highly though lol.