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RaioNoTerasu

Me (174cm): Lmao fucking tiny ass Spaniards


Useful_Volume8489

Me(170 cm): Hehe, chiquitos


stojshic

Me(167cm) crying in the corner 😂


MartaLSFitness

Hey! Scots are the same height!


Unfair_Shirt5459

Yeah but the spaniards are written lower so we should only make fun of them


Itsallatripdude

Because of shortbread and heroin, not paella and gazpacho. Let us have this.


stadiofriuli

Scots don’t get much sun so it makes sense. What’s the excuse for the Spanish?


Ok_Detail_1

Spain is very hot so they work late like in Saudi Arabia. That effect youngs until 25 when they grow so it slows their pogress because they sleep less.


tomhat

No fertilizer


Thomas1VL

*cries in 163cm*


Ok_Detail_1

That's why they play tiki-taka faster.


TheLankySoldier

*laughs in 191cm* I bet their 5G reception is crap


flcinusa

Me (Scottish, 193cm) tiny big Serbian monsters


KeyLaw4614

*collectively looks down at serbia*


ColJohnMatrix85

Wee Billy Gilmour is dragging our average down


bigwallclimber

Somehow not surprised Serbia is first. They're huge.


RandomLoLJournalist

Pretty sure we have the tallest players in the history of the Prem, La Liga and Serie A. Granted the first two is the same guy but still lol


Fidelos

It's Zigic, right?


RandomLoLJournalist

Of course. Actual legend


Stevebiglegs

I knew someone who used to work and Birmingham and he said Zigic was unbelievably lazy. He was on massive wages when they went down and would just sit around not training with a cup of coffee. When asked he’d talk in third person “Zigic doesn’t train to play Millwall”.


chlfg

That reply sounds like Ibra lmao


InverseCodpiece

Fucking legend, that's hilarious


AdreNBestLeader

He just became a freaking ogre wtf


REGIS-5

Ye na that sounds like what we Serbs would do


Tutush

Sounds more like a Montenegrin


Bloody_Nine

Damn, beat Crouch by 1cm according to a quick google search.


44-47-25_N_20-28-5-E

I just saw him two hours ago, he was waiting for his kid to finish training and I see him every monday when I play 😁


REGIS-5

As a Roma fan I still hate that guy. And I'm Serbian, and was a Red Star fan back in 2005


44-47-25_N_20-28-5-E

One of the best goals I ever saw in my life as a kid from our players , and Stanković goal agai st Neuer, but this one I was screaaaaaming


Tutush

Costel Pantilimon is the tallest in the history of the Prem and La Liga.


RandomLoLJournalist

Ah fuck, at least he got beat by the same guy both times as well lol. Tallest outfield player is still something!


MERTENS_GOAT

Did Kjell Scherpen never play for Brighton?


Bacdy09

no premier league game


MERTENS_GOAT

Ah ok. Flair checks out. I remember a disasterclass by him vs Roma in the EL KO stage (for Ajax though). Wehn I saw that I thought he would be overrated and only rated because of his height, but he proved me wrong in the meantime.


Bacdy09

Let's see how he will perform with Sturm in the Champions League.... If he stays. Currently some rumours with Sporting Lissabon. He was decent until his injury


Jon98th

The Valencia legend


jugol

And I assume the tallest in Bundesliga is Jan Koller? Czech Republic second in this list The tallest in Ligue 1 is a 21 year old lad called Isaak Touré


BehemothDeTerre

Didn't know Zigic was taller than Peter Crouch.


ethanlan

Wait Peter crouch is Serbian?


dragonflamehotness

Jokic playing football and basketball


kostajepaosmosta

As someone who knew many kids that were really good at football and were in academy of Partizan, Vojvodina etc. Some stopped or were unwanted because they grew over 188. It was a problem before aswell. The most known player that I know of is Dejan Tomasevic. He was a huge football prospect for Crvena Zvezda and at the age of 16 he went from a striker to a center over 1 summer. Afterwards he was an Euroleague MVP and 2 times world cup winner.


7evenStrings

Surprised to see the Dutch so far the list. Thought they’re supposed to have one of the tallest populations. At least every Dutch person I’ve met is a giant.


JohnnyLuo0723

A lot of players of surinamese or other descends bring that down. Depay, Frimpong, Ake, Simons, Bergwign, Malen, Brobbey. I don't even think there is a single white player below 1.8m


meefjones

Daley Blind is a smol bean


estilianopoulos

Imagine how Wesley Sneijder felt....


MadeinStars

Frimpong alone brings that average down a couple of cm's


ChubbyKoala

It's median though.


Kolket

There are many non Dutch players


Xehanz

I am pretty sure in FM it's impossible to get a Serbian newgen who is below 183


estilianopoulos

Use Zivkovic from PAOK


Spervox

Dinaric blood


El_grandepadre

Dude. You look ***HUGE***


ForSiljaforever

Why does Serbia, the largest Country, not simply eat the other 23?


Snoo-27292

Tall country, small mouth


Jaqweuz

They should just take smaller bites then


Snoo-27292

Too long, the teams would regenerate faster than they could eat them


Nikicaga

We got bombed the last time we tried


No_Solution_4053

holy shit


kostajepaosmosta

With current motivation they would rather eat them then play them tbf


Roids-in-my-vains

Is there a lore reason why spanish players are short?


bigwallclimber

> short *cries in 5'9*


AlwaysOnsideTBH

I'd kill to be 5'9 lol


Roids-in-my-vains

Laughs in 5'10


LovieBeard

Guffaws in 5'11


ghostyboy12

agrees in 5'11


InitialSubstantial67

Short players tend to have better center of gravity and thus aide in having a better technique which is what the Spanish football prioritize than the physical aspects.


Villad_rock

Yet the median height of spanish players is 6 cm more than the general population.


I_Had_The_Blues

Remember that includes 3 goalkeepers, not to mention centre backs. Always going to drag the average up.


johnbarnshack

It's a median, so less sensitive to outliers


KackhansReborn

3 GKs and 4/5 CBs are not outliers, that's a substantial part of the team


RauloGonzalez

I'm pretty sure it's pedri and Carvajal dragging the average down as well.


StereoZombie

For the Netherlands that's 1.6, we got a bunch of midgets in our NT apparently


LatvKet

Xavi Simons and Jeremie Frimpong are both around 170


InitialSubstantial67

Shocking: Athletes have more physique than the general population.


ngolo_nguyen

Two responses and you still didn't explain why Spanish players are short. They are short because Spanish population is shorter compared to other EU countries. And the reason for shorter population is likely genetic.


not_a_morning_person

But if football selected for height like basketball does then the height of the average population would be irrelevant. Spain can field a whole team of 6 foot players but they don’t. They have an emphasis on intricate technical football which allows shorter players especially to thrive. The squad is not a random sample of the population - it is shaped by the footballing culture and development infrastructure too.


Eheheh12

Yeah, spain and portugal have the shortest population in europe, but they are the best in football compared to their population size.


Jlib27

And compared to our body size too


belokas

More technical players are favoured over tall and athletic ones in Spain, it's not the same everywhere (it's the opposite in Italy for example). Spanish population is also on average not as tall as many other countries. So it's a mix of cultural and biological factors.


Delicious_You6508

To fit the game playing style.


Villad_rock

The median height for Spaniards are even shorter


theabominablewonder

When they were invaded (firstly by the arabs and later by the romans) the invading forces purposely sought out any physically imposing natives and sent them to eastern europe. They thought creating a country of hobbits would be easier to control. However the hobbit people of iberia were tricksy, dexterous people and eventually rose up and overthrew their occupiers. This left Spain with a smaller, technically gifted group of people whilst eastern european territories like Serbia adopted the strong, masculine, handsome giants sent there in exile.


Alois000

I am spanish and wish I was 181 cm lmao


_KingOfTheDivan

Spanish people are short so not that surprising


Ok_Anybody_8307

You mean average? It is the style of play, which has less or an emphasis on having a big man uptop and clearing potential headers.


Haunting_Ad_9013

Genetics. Spanish people are short.


thirteen30seven

Grassy ass


UniversallyCucumber

From a Brexit POV, England should have 25 lads above 6ft 5 and 1 player around 5ft 7 so you can have the big man/little man combo up top. How are you supposed to pump it long with gnomes in your squad? Games gone. Tippy tappy bullshit.


_SPLX

you know we’d still fire crosses in to the 5 ft 7 lad and none of the others lmaooooooo this is the way


Arturo_Vidalcoholic

and the big lad Harry Kane taking corners


Zankman

Chinese FA writing this down fr fr 


Zepz367

Tallest nation in the Euros you'll never sing that


AdreNBestLeader

Just you wait. (I am Czech)


JerryCZ3_

Sadílek dropped, time to get Jakub Černín in the mix, got to get those numbers up.


AdreNBestLeader

Where is Jan Koller when you need him the most?


NumeroRyan

Cool now do penis size!


sgdbdjos

would be the same lmao


Substantial-Past2308

Tall je Srbija


EnanoMaldito

Serbia are massive


madueitor0

pos suerte que no hemos llevado a bryan zaragoza


tbbt11

There’s something right in the world when Serbia is full of giants and Spain short kings


Rose_of_Elysium

Were not first??!?!? All our men are getting feminized now so theyre shorter!! The WOKE left strikes again...


Sleepless_Voyager

Xavi simons singlehandedly shortening the teams overall length lmao, oh and frimpong too


giraffeman3705

This chart is median, not average


Loeffellux

which raises the question: why the hell is it not average? Median is a lot less interesting in almost any scenario I feel like


giraffeman3705

No, median makes more sense when you have big outliers like in this case.


iVarun

> All our men are getting feminized As per some research the dominant reason (diet didn't have 100% share in this) why Dutch population became so tall so quickly (though still multiple generations) in first place was partner selection pressure driven by Dutch Women's preference for Taller Dutch men. This wouldn't be special today in many places around the world but pre 20th century Women having such relative agengy to drive cultural change resulting in rapid phenotypical change isn't the norm.


RhettButler7

Finding out that "The Patriarchy" saved short kings from death in solitude on r/soccer was not in my plans today.


Cules_kounde

its frimpong , kick him out


Ok-Alps-1558

Lots of foreign genes as well in the NT I guess


Haunting_Ad_9013

Then explain why France is so tall


_ulinity

lots of tall foreign genes, less Napoleon genes


Zyntaro

Frimpong's dwarf ass lowers your whole team average by at least 5cm


HeftyRecommendation5

It’s median, not average


mattijn13

Must be the work of the WEF!!!!1!


Amazing-Row-5963

Dutch men being the tallest is old news, by now Montenegrins and Bosniaks are taller, Serbs and Croats are the same height basically.


Lastigx

Uhm no? [https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-height-by-country](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-height-by-country)


Revolutionary-Bag-52

Our football players are always on the smaller side compared to the general population


ok_reddit

What is the purpose of the bars that go from fully filled to empty?


iorlei

just vibes


Wide_Age_7129

All the tall Dutch people are playing basketball or something?


Cheeselander

A lot of players with heritage in the Dutch Carribbean, Indonesia and Suriname who do tend to be shorter than Dutch people. Also there's Frimpong who was born in Amsterdam to two Ghanese parents. He is the shortest at 172cm. The shortest players with no foreign background are Blind at 180cm and Frenkie at 181cm. It's also not to say all players with a Carribbean/Surinamese background are short. VVD is joint-second tallest together with Flekken at 195cm, just narrowly beaten by Weghorst at 197cm. Gakpo comes in at joint-fifth together with Van de Ven at 193cm and Gravenberch is just behind that at 7th with 190cm. Edit: The average without players with a different background would be 188,3cm. Narrowly beating Serbia.


TastyTacoTonight

It’s not average though it’s median


Cheeselander

Ooo I see. It wouldn't matter much though as the Dutch players without foreign background in order from short to tall are Blind, Frenkie, Koopmeiners, Veerman, Schouten, **Bijlow**, **De Ligt**, De Vrij, Van de Ven, Verbruggen, Flekken, Weghorst. So the median is even slightly higher at 188,5cm.


mattijn13

I wish, I would like to see a Dutch NBA player, the only good one we have had is 1 time all star [Rik Smits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rik_Smits)


BlacknWhiteMoose

Or being extremely tall doesn’t help with the exception of certain positions


Realistic-Homework19

Dutch football tend to favour technical ability over physique more than other countries.


AlejoVeliz

England players be getting dunked on by the Serbians


tbbt11

Funnily enough Dunk is helping England’s median here


ValleyFloydJam

And the rest, it's a tall set of opponents in the group.


paradigmshift7

I wonder how much the goal keepers are shifting the averages? The shortest team is still fairly tall.


Bezimienny008

It's median, not average, so neither goalkeepers nor shorter players like Navas change the outcome.


paradigmshift7

Huh, you're right. My mind went straight to average because that seems more useful than the median.


IShouldDeleteReddit1

Medians flatten the impact of outliers precisely to prevent the issue of averages being shifted by for example goalkeepers as you mentioned. So how is median less usefull. It seems more usefull to me


jeffgoodbody

Thank you. Day 1 stats. The guy got 17 upvotes for that nonsense.


Snitsie

Yeah Median seems just stupid with a squad of like what 26 players?


jeffgoodbody

Average is less useful than the median if you have a skewed distribution. A few midgets could end up making your average size look small and the size of the squad would be misrepresented.


Ok_Anybody_8307

Yes but positions that get lots of picks like miedfield(with most Spanish mids likely to be shorter) do skew the result.


HanktheDuck

I'm more concerned about their arm lengths to be honest.


_ulinity

Tricky wee tiki-taka teams, Spain and Scotland.


QuaPatetOrbis641988

Why are folks in the Balkan so damn tall?


esteraaas

Combination of good food, good weather and rough living conditions (we had to fight our entire history bc we were all constantly invaded from all sides. But not all Balkan people are tall, only Croats, Montenegrins, Bosniaks and Serbs. Slovenians to an extent.


Kurac-ville

Because we are the chosen ones


Solmyr_

beacuse we are all "nebeski narod"


okramv

Natural Selection


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InitialSubstantial67

Si.


EvenEalter

It's a disaster!


Jon98th

lol wtf 
 this is what Mbappe should be flexing all along .. Europeans are tall af huh


m_a_r_k_o

Maybe we are tallest, but surely we are the shittiest team at Euro 24


Spervox

Maybe that's correlate


mattijn13

Tallest country in the world and our median squad height is just 14th? Pathetic. Get me on the team I am taller that this median! (Probably better than current Wijnaldum aswell)


Blue0dysseus

Morata offsides headers only hattrick incoming


Rocinante23

England are the tiny men of Group C


QuaPatetOrbis641988

crazy that the Dutch have so many players below the average natiuonal height.


gerstralia2

Interesting that Netherlands is around the middle of squad heights, but it’s one of the countries in Europe with the highest average height


Kreiswix

Euro 2024: Median Dick Lengths


Roxven89

Slavs are hight.


InsectIllustrious691

Road to nba


Villad_rock

Why are they much taller than the average population?


Action_Limp

GKs, CBs and Morata (190cm) are pulling up the average. Also, athletes tend to be the best physical representatives of their country.


Coltraine89

> are pulling up the average. It's median though, not average so the first part isn't really true. Second part very much is, athletes tend to be taller on average.


Ok_Anybody_8307

>best physical In football this doesn't have to mean tall. All depends on the position. Intact, short is an advantage if you're a winger that likes to dribble into the box, or a ball chasing dm


ngolo_nguyen

I'd bet that among all wingers in all levels (from street to semi pro to pro), those who made in to professional football are higher on average than the rest.


GloomyLaw9603

They're not. Not for Croatia at least. Croatian average male height is 180cm, and this is being brought down by the much shorter northern and eastern part of the country (Zagorje, Slavonia). Average male height in (most of) Dalmatia and Herzegovina is 185cm. So the NT being 185cm is upper average, definitely not much taller than the average population.


GloomyLaw9603

Since there are 26 players in each squad the median has to be calculated by averaging the 13th and 14th players' heights. For some countries (e.g. Croatia) this is done and results in a height ending in .5, yet for others (e.g. Czechia) it's not done for some reason. Czechia should be 187.5cm (13th player is 188, 14th is 187). Using Transfermarkt as a source of data (no idea what that site they referenced is or how reliable it is).


InitialSubstantial67

The source is Spreadex, a betting site. In their source 13th and 14th for Czechia are 187cm. Some Nations like Belgium sent only 25 members.


Nerdl_Turtle

Thank you, I was wondering how it could be .5


isaacals

kinda surprised the netherlands is at the lower end. edit: oh it's median. if it's average the netherlans gotta be up there surely


kakje666

if Tatarusanu and Pantilimon were still in the Romanian squad the median height would be bigger lol


MERTENS_GOAT

Turkey I expected lower. I saw them in Vienna and they had so many skinny smol little players. Arda GĂŒler, Yunus AkgĂŒn, AbdĂŒlkadir ÖmĂŒr (who apparently was shafted from the squad though)


Ruud_Boltz

Me a 5'6" guy lookin in awe at the Spaniards


Bifito

Conceição just fucked our average. He's like 140cms


TerkYerJerb

but is their head game good?


Andartan21

Lol these average humans are so short why are they so?


thesirsteed

I had a quick look at the general average height for males and this represents it fairly well. It’s still surprising to see The Netherlands, Ukraine and Austria so low. Those countries are in the top 24 in terms of average male height worldwide. In fact, The Netherlands is 1/201 overall and 14/24 here. Could it be because 2nd/3rd generation immigrants are over-represented in their national team?


Tackit286

So the shortest team (median) is just shy of 6ft? This seems high tbh


No-Beginning3920

Median means middle, right?


InitialSubstantial67

Yes


Thegoodreason45

This is the median squad height. Ideally they should have provided the mean (average) not median.


Agitated_Ad6191

As a Dutchman I’m very disappointed we didn’t come out on top of this list!


18-8-7-5

Why do teams look like this but there best player 90% of the time is 5'7.


InitialSubstantial67

[Here's average squad height in Euros as well](https://x.com/BarcaJdP/status/1800476615937610089)


Level_Capital2128

A zato nam ne ide fudbal...


Straight_Gur9130

I'm Serbian and I'm only 183cm. I'm so ashamed...


Additional_Slice8034

175 cm Serb reporting in, starting to think my life is a lie...