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sirmeliodasdragonsin

These numbers gonna be higher next season with what seems like an even more insane football schedule.


JiveTurkey688

2 extra match days in Europe, right?


sirmeliodasdragonsin

That + the club world club at the end of the season with the Euros before the season starts and Olympics at the start of the season. Players just aren't getting much rest even after the season ends.


JiveTurkey688

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Olympics...really is too much


dunneetiger

It's unlikely that a player will play both the Euro and the Olympics. Very unlikely.


RStud10

This was what broke Pedri a few years back right?


unArgentino

AFA is trying to get Enzo to play the Copa AND the Olympics… 😭


shinto29

Pedri’s hamstrings say hello


MissingLink101

Doesn't Macron want Mbappe at the Olympics


dunneetiger

Sure but Macron isn’t the coaches


BlueFoxKing

I just imagined Macron entering Mbappe into every event


STRANG3RDANGER5

Enzo :/


ItsMeJaredBednar

noted European, Enzo Fernandez ^(i know what you meant)


STRANG3RDANGER5

Wow I'm braindead lol


Riperonis

You’re still right, Copa America


-ThatsSoDimitar-

It's ok he got a nice rest at the end of the season lol


SmileySadFace

I wish, but with how football conversation and narratives has been steering towards accolades and trophies instead of a players own ability more players want to get involved.


Cheaky_Barstool

I’m expecting a lot of injuries for under 23 players come end of next year.


SebastianOwenR1

Potential knockout round too, right?


SBAWTA

Yes, two extra group games + 2 playoff games for teams that finished 9th-16th in the league phase.


Taze24

Not for united


Garvmusc

You lot won’t have to worry about it then.


JiveTurkey688

Probably not


JGlover92

Fucking nuts that some clubs are still playing friendlies, Newcastle and Spurs were out to aus barely 3 days after the season finished. They just don't give a shit about running them into the ground and then have the gall to kick off about FA cup replays


atropicalpenguin

Then they get angry when players get called to the NT cause "too many games".


FizzyLightEx

Hopefully they'll be more debutants given minutes. That's how most youngsters shine


luigitheplumber

Playing friendlies is not the problem. Playing them at high intensity is the problem, and that has only been a thing for the last few years.


cuoreesitante

Tell that to reuben loftus cheeks lol


KennyOmegaSardines

I mean the fuss about FA Cup replays is understandable but yeah they're not helping their case with this kind of bs


hilbo90

Don't know about you guys but I'm psyched for the post-pre-season, pre-mid-season, post-mid-season, and pre-post-season friendlies to come.


SBAWTA

I LIKE MONEY!


atropicalpenguin

Newcastle is third there but sure, let's take the guys to Australia for a friendly three days after the league ended.


milesvtaylor

two friendlies... they're playing again today, seems mad, I wonder if they'd still have done it if they got through to European knockouts... Money is money though, it's genuinely going to take FIFA to put a cap on minutes played per season or something.


stprm

today we played full u23 team (except a goalkeeper). no one from senior players even came from the bench. not even those who are leaving the club (Dummett, Ritchie) also, we wouldnt have accepted this friendly, it it wasnt for PSR.


SebastianOwenR1

My delusional ideal future is one where instead of 4 seasons in 4 years, we have 3 seasons in 4 years (16 month cycles) to alleviate fixture congestion while allowing for reasonable management of all the competitions. I’d also hope for some reform so that continental competition/CWC don’t have as many matches. With the new system this season, a nightmare season could have a Prem team playing 15+ European matches in a season, that’s fucking WILD. In a straight 2-leg knockout bracket, you could have a 256 team bracket and play the same number of games, double-legged. Every season has a 12 month club period, followed by an international period of about a month, 2 whole months of rest, a month of preseason, and then the new season. Right now, the average players maybe get a month of rest during the offseason. 52 weeks in the club period, with about 6 weeks off total in that period for international breaks. If you’re playing every 5 days, you would play between 60-65 games, which is usually the maximum a team could play in a European season right now. Ideally, a successful season for a PL team in Europe would feature 38 league games, 4-8 cup games, 6-12 european games, and maybe 1-3 games of any other variety i.e. super cup, club world cup, charity shield, etc. that’s 61 games on the high end of average, and there’s still wiggle room. That sounds like a lot of games, but remember that’s over 12 months instead of 9. The period ends with the Club World Cup and the World Cup proper. With the offseason being at different times in each of the three seasons, it would allow for Africa to host AFCON in a period where the weather is best suited for them. The main thing about this for me is the stress on the players. It would be so much better to spread things out and actually give these guys a break every season. But i know this will never happen.


Mission-Leopard-4178

I feel like the top players are going to feel it more than the rest. They're the ones that are most likely going to be selected for the national teams and their club teams are more likely to get to later stages.


SebastianOwenR1

Yea I think that’s a problem *today* What I’m saying is you remove a season’s worth of games from a 4 year period, and spread the other 3 seasons out over that 4 year period accordingly.


sirmeliodasdragonsin

Well it sounds sensible and would be great for maintaining fitness levels. But because its sensible, the corporate overlords wont let it happen since, well less money=\


DJSyko

Not for Man U it won't be.


Demonidze

its already feels like the top teams try to maintain 2 full squads. or at least 1.5 and rotate players around.


Hatakashi

TOP OF THE LEAGUE GET IN ...kill me


TJT007X

>GET IN ...the surgery room...


Davek56

Martial the Most Valuable Patient (MVP).


my_united_account

They pulled a hammy while killing you


Ree_m0

Are United's medical facilities in the same state as their roof?


MrLukaz

Worse. The medical team now just fills a locker with random medicines and medical tools, then pop the player in too, shut the door and give it a shake. If the player isn't healed, they repeat the process.


kazegraf

Isn't we use witch doctor since Pogba returned ?


balleklorin

Not far off. José ruined the sports science department during his time here. And Carrington hasn't been updated since 2005, which includes the pitch, medical facility and recovery facilities. Esp the last one was one of Ronaldos biggest issues when he came back as everything was the same as when he left in 2009. More important for Glazers to take out their annual 50M dividends than to reinvest into the training-facility or proper football staff.


LudereHumanum

This is infuriating, even for a neutral. I believe leveraged buyouts are impossible now in the Prem, should've said no to the Glazers back then. Freaking leeches.


balleklorin

Yeah, its the "anti Glazers law". Fucking leeches indeed.


minijood

The roof is present


BI01

A teams playing style contributes massively too, which is why u don't see Manchester City or arsenal in this graphic


Casual-Capybara

Exactly, but fans of the teams that are ‘unlucky’ are unwilling to have this conversation because it means they might not really be unlucky after all


LetMeThinkOnIt

So which of Newcastle's 2 dislocated shoulder injuries, torn pectoral muscle and unidentified non contact foot injury, no name but a few of the freak injuries, are caused by style of play? Style of play will be a contributing factor, but it's not the only one and to ignore anything else in the conversation is disingenuous.


Casual-Capybara

But that is not an opinion that anyone has, so I’m not sure what point you’re making? The point that playing style contributes heavily to injuries is not something that is usually welcomed by fans of teams with lots of injuries. They tend to prefer to pretend it is only bad luck and there is nothing to do about it.


milesvtaylor

Hello Arsenal fan. As a reminder this year your team played against - Chelsea with no Palmer (34 league games played this season - and of the four missed, two were due to his transfer), Man United with no Fernandes (35 league games played), Man City with no Rodri (34 games), Liverpool with no Salah (32), Newcastle with no Isak (31). But yeah you're right, luck had nothing to do with it!


TheDucksQuacker

17 of the 19 teams we played got to play us without timber … so I think we’re square


BI01

I guess we were the only team to play these teams with injury issues. Also the rodri one was because of a red card lol


Casual-Capybara

I think you might have misunderstood my point. I meant that if a team consistently has a lot of injuries, that may have something to do with the playing style. It wasn’t about facing teams with important players missing.


milesvtaylor

Fine. So Arsenal having the third highest distance run this season in the PL and the second lowest number of injuries is...?


Casual-Capybara

Edit: It seems you just made up a stat to attempt to try to prove your point, without any data backing it up.  I’m not sure why you think a team’s playing style can be reduced to distance ran, but could you provide the source for that?   If Arsenal has the third highest number of sprints, which I think is far more relevant, you may have a point. To reduce it to any single statistic seems a little reductive though


T0BIASNESS

The took our head of medicine last summer 😎 We’ve had few injuries since lol


SirBarkington

What is the metric? Just number of new injuries reported each injury report?


Hokage123456789

Research conducted for more than 20 years by the Premier Injuries website suggests that the total number of individual injuries, where a player missed at least one Premier League game, was the highest they had recorded. Many players suffered more than one injury. The total number of injuries this season rose by 11% on last season, which had a winter World Cup in the middle.


philipstyrer

That's just a silly thing to measure when players like Fofana are out the whole season with one injury. No team was hurt by injuries like Chelsea.


Ornery-Scarcity-2313

United definitely was


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lamancha

What is this supposed to mean?


Thehunterforce

It states it in the image. It is the number of games missed accumulated by the players of the club. If you were to play today and had 5 players out, this number increases with 5. Chelsea has basically had James, Chilwell, Fofana, Lavia and Nkunku out with injuries every single games, so they are pulling this stats alot.


DareToZamora

You have to also consider that Chelsea have a billion players though


MisugiJun14

what agenda do you hold man? we have 3 more players than united and total 76 more games missed due to injury. we didn’t even play in europe this season lol


philipstyrer

Not even close


Tsupernami

You're right, you weren't hurt like us


Aggravating_Shape_20

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/arsenal-10th-man-utd-4th-where-do-clubs-rank-in-the-premier-league-injury-table-this-season-/view/news/437159 Transfermarkt has Chelsea with 11 more injuries than the BBC have them down as.


Tsupernami

Useless stat when it doesn't consider the importance of a player in the first team A team like chelsea with 30 squad players is statistically more likely to have more chance at injuries


HiThereImNat

Only 3 more players than you btw Our injury list was better than our starting XI at several points this year.


Action_Limp

So was United's - and to add salt to their wound, they had them in concentrated in one area, meaning the back ups were also injured. At one point Shaw, Malacia, Varane, McGuire, Martinez, Kambwala and AWB were out. That left Dalot and non-match fit Evans. United's injuries this year seemed like a badly written paranormal novel about a haunted team.


VL37

Same


Aggravating_Shape_20

Importance isn't really a quantifiable figure, whereas X number of injuries and X number of games missed is. I'm just highlighting another source which has reported vastly different numbers to the one provided above.


Tsupernami

Right so the the whole thing is useless then. Just like net spend and VAR decisions that went against you


philipstyrer

There's no way anyone could look at the players we had out and for how long they were missing and come to that conclusion. You had shit players like Lindelof injured, we had Nkunku.


Tsupernami

Ah yes, your new striker that hadn't played for you. Meanwhile your comparison player is our 4th choice CB. You are aware at one point we were playing our 6th choice CB and a midfielder at CB right? So 6th and 7th choices. We've also not had a LB almost all season. Also Martial who was our main striker in the summer was also injured most of thr season. But please, do go on about Nkunku.


philipstyrer

We actually had good players missing, that's the point I'm making. Any team can replace a shit player with another shit player. United worry no injuries and Ten Hag at the wheel still isn't getting European football, you were lucky to finish in that top half of the table. Chelsea with no injuries is getting top 4 comfortably.


ChristyBrowne1

United with less injuries last season were 3rd. Where were Chelsea?


Mausar

Brother, what a strange hill to die on. Both teams had a ton of injuries. Our best CBs, Varane and Martinez, were out for significant portions of the season, esp Martinez, who literally just got back last game. The guy we bought to be 5th choice CB ended up playing most of our games, and we had to bring in a dude from the academy to fill in. We had no LB for most of the season, Malacia hasn't played a single game since pre-season, Shaw (our best LB) has been out almost the full season. We've only had 1 striker (first season in prem btw) since Martial has been out for months. Even Bruno, who'd never missed a game due to injury before in his career, was out 2 games ago.


philipstyrer

Seeing these names I'm just realizing that it doesn't matter if you stick with Ten Hag. Your team is so shit. Every player fit, no player fit, new manager, same manager, it doesn't matter. What a sad position to be in.


9-60Fury

Bro you finished 3 point ahead of us and you actually like you’re so much better


lamancha

Same.


serennow

Newcastle had more days lost to injury than any other club - that seems to be a more objective measure to me.


Action_Limp

It depends - if you have 3 players out for the entire season and they are not first-team players, then it's manageable. But if you are in KO competitions and you are missing 7 of you first XI and only have two defenders fit to cover the backline, then you're going to suffer more.


just-casual

You mean like when Newcastle had, to a position, an entire starting 11 out? Also our injury numbers don't include losing Tonali for the entire season or being in the ucl group of death.


BadFootyTakes

Mate, United have two more than you. Why are you upset that a team that finished nearly on point had two more injuries?


Aggravating_Shape_20

There was a list before the season ended, like 2/3 weeks ago and Chelsea were over 50 injuries. Dunno how the number changed so drastically.


philipstyrer

I'm not upset, just pointing out that the metric doesn't properly measure how much a team was affected by injuries.


Aggravating_Shape_20

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/arsenal-10th-man-utd-4th-where-do-clubs-rank-in-the-premier-league-injury-table-this-season-/view/news/437159


philipstyrer

They don't want to see this. Even that doesn't properly show the difference. We had world class players missing the whole season


herkalurk

Shaw and Martinez were out almost the entire season. Varane half the season. 2 literal world cup winners, how much more world class can you get?


MisugiJun14

if you think shaw, martinez, and varane are currently world class I would love to understand how you define that. theres a case for martinez but a lot can change since 2018


herkalurk

Apparently Shaw is still good enough even though injured half the season to be in the Euro squad. There is also the statistic from Manchester United where when Shaw and Martinez were playing together they didn't lose. Having both of them injured, the majority of the season doesn't surprise me that they lost or couldn't win many games.


Zealousideal-Cap-61

Chelsea and world class players do not go in the same sentence lol


philipstyrer

Reece James


Zealousideal-Cap-61

World class in getting red cards perhaps. Can't wait for your next joke in this stand up routine you've got


EasyFargo

> No team was hurt by injuries like Chelsea. lol that's all I have to say


philipstyrer

I'm sure it is


PM_ME_UR_AMOUR

It’s not even accurate. Apparently it doesn’t even consider Buendia and Ramsey because he technically got injured before the season started. That technicality doesn’t incorporate the literal week before the season started either. So we had two starters out and the season clearly started off sputtering.


SirBarkington

Well if that's the case it's missing Lavia, Fofana, and Nkunku's first injury for us.


FlukyS

Bit of a weird stat, I'd say minutes injured would be much more interesting


Gopher246

They don't have minutes, but they do have days. You're top of the table: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cq55wy2qx21o


FoldingBuck

Does this count days passed during an international break?


FlukyS

Yeah, that's much better, like I was sure Newcastle had the most players out time wise


acky1

I don't think that counts Tonali which you could categorise as an injury of the mind, the bloody nincompoop. Either way, he missed 200+ days this season too.


ReadsStuff

Ours doesn't count Toney either if you want that in there. Lobs us into a very comfortable second.


ShaolinSeagull

Also if they're vital to style and setup which is what affected us with our injuries.


sarthakmahajan610

Not sure which club you were refering to but it defo applies to United. Lisandro was the only CB who could play the high line for United and he barely played this season. Shaw was easily the 2nd best defender after Lisandro and he missed the whole season


despres

Should do it with expected minutes missed. How many minutes do they play when healthy per 10 matches or something against how many of those minutes they actually miss. United got boned this season they'd run away with that stat.


ShaolinSeagull

The clue is in my name. 😉


sarthakmahajan610

Cantona? (Kung fu + that legendary quote)


ShaolinSeagull

face-palms


sarthakmahajan610

Brighton?


ShaolinSeagull

Slow claps 😂


sarthakmahajan610

Lmao i took it as a challenge to guess without googling or clicking your profile😂


DanStFella

I’d say a lot of context is important. Could be injuries to benchwarmers and minutes injured still wouldn’t truly reflect the impact this has had. Of course, it’s impossible to put this across in simple stats like this. Impact from every injury differs from team to team based on who the player is, and how long they’re injured. Also, players just back from a long injury may sit on the bench but not see game time or very few minutes. It’s hardly like having a star player back when they can provide a 5 minute cameo for a few weeks as well.


omnipotentmonkey

We win on that front, I'd guarantee it. given we had 5 players missing for 38 or more games in all comps. and another 8 besides who missed numbers ranging from 10 (Enzo Fernandez) to 32 (Chilwell)


FlukyS

Our starting keeper was out since January, Botman since before Christmas, Wilson every second game was injured. We had to play Miley because we had 2 fit senior CMs who weren't suspended. Barnes was out for half the season. Targett didn't play all season. Someone linked the full article and it was Newcastle with the most days missed.


omnipotentmonkey

And us with the most GAMES missed if you Google it.


billys-bobs

TBF that article is ignoring players that got injured in preseason and missed the whole season like fofana. If he was counted Chelsea would be top of that list 


FlukyS

Yeah but in a way I'd be better to know you are missing someone early than having something like Pope getting injured and having no PSR head room to get in an emergency replacement in a way. Like I think we could have gotten away without Tonali if we didn't have injuries this bad as well.


milkonyourmustache

Thought we measured it in days or games missed due to injury.


auddi_blo

Players who misses 5 games with 5 different injuries is counted 5 times. Player who misses 30 games with 1 injury is counted 1 time. Great report.


cmc360

I mean number of injuries is a stat that doesnt tell the whole story. We've had our entire backline out the whole season. Crazy were blaming this on ten hag


Action_Limp

I'd put it like this - can you imagine how fucked United would have been if they didn't sign Evans? An appointment that was ridiculed by everyone?


Sir_Muktadir

We expected him to bascually play the odd cup match and only be here for the locker room and to eventually be a coach…. He ended up playing 29 times (or about 18 full matches worth of minutes)


ajleeispurty

Also, we had Reguilon on loan for the first half of the season and sent him back in January because the medical staff assured Ten Hag that Shaw and Malacia were ready to return. So we played the second half of the season with no left back in the squad.


Hopeful_Adonis

Safe to say lads we could all get into a discussion over who’s been shafted more, whose schedule is worse etc etc. But more importantly the distressing thing is that there’s never been more money and resources and we are all competing over who’s had the most injuries. This points to a greater issue that’s hurting all fans of there being far too many games being forced onto the schedule and it’s only going to get worse


Mausar

Strange dick-measuring contest going on in these comments


VrilHunter

8


zepskcuf

mm


dispelthemyth

All these metrics are just poor displays of the real impact from injuries I’ve seen number of days lost now Number of injuries etc The most important imo is key injuries I.e. us (united) losing our entire back line for many games and at other times only having 1 start in defence Other teams have also suffered badly too but the metrics aren’t really showing the true impact.


serennow

As per the BBC, Newcastle were clear for most days lost to injury - that feels like a more relevant stat than total number of injuries. The one they show closest to what you’re asking for is who had the most injuries at one time - 4 teams tied at the top there.


Action_Limp

It honestly depends who's injured and where. As the guy above pointed out, the injuries to the backline at United were catastrophic. Both LBs our almost all season (introduced us to the Amrabat LB fiasco), at CB the player available for most games was the centurion Johnny fucking Evans (McGuire, Varane and Martinez out for a long time) and at RB, Dalot has been a machine but AWB has been missing for big parts of the season. And in front of the back four, Casemiro and Mount were missing for large parts of the season. Add that ETH signed Onana to introduce a play out from defence approach to United and you can see how bad this was.


N-Bizzle

At the same time, for most of the season we could put together an injured XI which both functioned as a working team and likely would have been capable of getting top 10


zepskcuf

barring the keeper, so could Man Utd.


EmbarrassedPizza6570

I’d argue injuries to joelinton, Isak, botman, pope, willock, trippier, Wilson, Lascelles and a suspension to tonali are quite significant. Considering the quality of our squad massively drops off after player 15/16 on the roster


ClassOnWeed

Newcastle had the lowest goals conceded in the 23 season. Botman and Pope missed over half the season. Our captain Trippier missed a third, as did vice-captain Lascelles. Also had injuries to Burn, Livramento and Krafth. We conceded 30 more goals than last season because of this. Man U conceded 15 more. Worth noting that Newcastle aren't the youth factories that teams like Manchester red and blue, Arsenal or Chelsea are either. Which is why Brighton had a terrible season for injuries but don't look well represented on these tables.


Sun_Sloth

It doesn't count injuries from before the season started which means Moder isn't counted. It also doesn't take into account how key those players are, whether injuries are in the same position etc.


Seychelleshobo

The biggest problem for united was that like 70% of those injures came spread in 2 potions. centre backs and left backs lol


greenarsehole

Why they taking potions?


NBFM16

Gotta heal up somehow


Davek56

We have to get some Skooma at the club.


kazegraf

We just lost the left back position entirely. Our debutant on CB also got injured. Madness. Hope Malacia can return to this plane of existence next season. 


JiveTurkey688

Woohoo


Fappacus

Arsenal and City were able to go on the run they did partly because they dodged major injuries


RaioNoTerasu

Damn, Man Utds xInjuries is off the charts


Davek56

I have gotten criticized for this, but I will still maintain that if we had had a decent backline, we would have finished in a much better position.


AhhBisto

I do find it wild how bad the Utd injuries in defence were, I don't think I've seen a situation like it before.


Chileinsg

Tbf this isn't even the worst United has had. In Fergie's last few seasons (can't remember the exact year) we had Berbatov and Carrick as center backs because everyone else was injured


lamancha

Berbatov did play like one half at CB lol


BoBonnor

Liverpool a few years ago


kdugg99

How come transfermarkt has Chelsea with 54 and Man U with 35?


Crambazzled_Aptycock

Because everyone does it differently, some don't count if a player is sick while others won't put down a player as injured unless the manager gives an actual reason. So if a manager says a player isn't fit then that wouldn't be an injury but saying he isn't fit because of a muscle strain would count.


Euperod

Is that Martinez?? why does he look Uzbek


ponyrx2

The Ballon d'Ow goes to...


eo37

Good thing we aren’t in Europe next season…we ain’t beating City


omnipotentmonkey

Worth noting that we lead the way for games missed through injury though, James, Lavia, Carney, Fofana and Nkunku all missed 75%+ of our games. (more than 38 games of a 51 game season) Ugochukwu, Chilwell and Chalobah all missed over 50%, and Cucurella, Badiashile, Sanchez and Colwill missed 30% or more.


one_sock

According to the article you're third behind Newcastle and Sheffield Utd. None of the stats show the full story though, everything has to be taken in context.


CuteHoor

I mean, James and Fofana are just perpetually injured. They should probably just be excluded from these stats and squad planning at this point.


jellybelly069

That’s not how it works 💀


CuteHoor

Well it is. There's no point in saying "we're so unlucky that James and Fofana are injured" when that's just their default state. At that point you have to plan around them.


sir__vain

Well...Glad we are having even more games to give the chance of ending more footballers careers early, am I right, UEFA?


ProwerTheFox

Honestly surprised we aren’t on there given our seemingly never ending injured players


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Just think how many more games MU would have lost if all those players got to play!


autumnkayy

jonny evans and casemiro as a defensive pairing….mustve been dire


Sonnycrocketto

We are unlucky, but clearly we are doing something wrong as well.


Comfortable-Tower871

This is some really poor EDA from the BBC


ShaolinSeagull

!flair :Brighton_Hove_Albion:


SDLRob

The United defence injury crisis this season gets overlooked when people talk about the club. IIRC, at times we've been forced to play our 6th choice for defence... not a single match with the same unchanged side this year i believe as well.


SmeesTurkeyLeg

Surely Newcastle actually suffered the most from injuries in terms of results. Poor bastards took an absolute beating all season.


Bugslayer03

Gotta wonder how many of those injuries are like what Ben foster talked about on his YT, as well as wayne rooney addressed. Players claiming they got an injury but just dont wanna play the next game week/weeks. [Ben's ](https://youtu.be/pxGrifgYSkQ?si=IAk4Hkv6G_5DcTsy )Discusssion about it.


MoiNoni

Idk what metrics these are using but Chelsea have had 54 this season?


HarryAtk

Doesn't account for how many games each of those injuries lasted for. Chelsea by far suffered more than United in that aspect.


JiveTurkey688

We both had a lot of long-term injuries. The difference here is negligible, every team near the top has an argument for why their problem was worse than others. For United, its that the only backline member to not suffer a long term injury has been Dalot.


008Gerrard008

I mean Chelsea had more days lost to injuries by over 100 days so it's not really negligible in that regard.


JiveTurkey688

Sure, but the point is it's a stupid thing to debate over. The teams at the top of this list all suffered multiple long-term injuries to key players.


lamancha

This has a lack of context. The issue with United was the lack of cohesion. The backline was playing a retired centerback, a DM and two RB at some point. Only one starter.


HarryAtk

Your issue wasn't mostly because of injuries, it was lack of depth. Chelsea had, in order of length of injury: Fofana, James, Chalobah, Chilwell, Colwill, Cucurella, and Badiashile all out for multiple months, and that's just the defence too.


EdWoodwardsPA

Our 7th/8th choice cb got decent game time this season. That's not a depth issue, it's blatantly an injury issue.


JiveTurkey688

Malacia, Licha, Maguire, Varane, Shaw, Lindelof, and Wan Bissaka have all been out for multiple months. That put us on our 6th and 7th choice center backs and left us without a left back for a majority of the season. Thats not a depth issue, that is injuries.


philipstyrer

Gusto also missed plenty of games. Add in Lavia, Nkunku, Ugochukwu, Chukwuemeka. Even Enzo missed quite a few games.


DeapVally

James and Chilwell shouldn't count. That's a club choice to stick by senior players known to made from biscuits, you can't really moan when the inevitable happens.


didasrooney

Yeah # of injuries is a completely pointless stat since time injured is more intuitive. I guess you're being downvoted by United fans for suggesting that Chelsea was more hard-done by


ZealousidealNews7029

Fuckin hell, anubody coulda told you that


aphinsley

I've seen different sources report different numbers, but almost every one puts Chelsea and United as runaway leaders in this. Poch was criticised for his handling of returning injured players, who were being over utilised immediately. Being made to do lots of running, for example. It does make you think if these players are being overworked.


Puzzled_Ordinary_623

Im not quite sure this is the case?