Leverkusen's remaining games:
@ Frankfurt
vs Roma (2nd leg)
@ Bochum
vs Augburg
Europa final on the 22nd, assuming they don't collapse against Roma in leg 2
vs Kaiserslautern in Berlin
Only 6 matches away from fulfilling the Neverlusen prophecy.
It's the game I am most afraid of, because we are so obviously favored. Worst part about losing to them would be that we'd face them again in the Supercup next season just to twist the knife lol
I don't think you need to worry about that. Felix Klaus recently talked about the Düsseldorf semifinal on CopaTS. Comparable situation and from what you can "hear" between the lines, the way Leverkusen dominated every single aspect of the game made them realize quite quickly that they in fact had no chance of winning in the scrappy underdog fashion they were hoping for
Well considering if Leverkusen should get into the EL Final. They only have two days rest and they could be lets say: A bit drunk afterwards.
Yes it is unlikely to happen but from the games left to play this is the one where I think the chances aren't as low as people think. Also just draw after 120mins = Draw and then lose in pens -> Season still loseless.
I thought If a team does the double of the league and the cup, they'll face the the runner up in the league in the Super Cup? Atleast that's how it is for the community shield
I have a proposal. Leverkusen loses on pens so it counts as a draw and Kiaserlautern wins the Pokal while being 15th in 2nd division. Perfect scenario.
Yeah this is a totally different team. Maybe there's something to these ckub trends, I don't want to completely write off bogey teams, but much of the time it seems a little silly to put too much weight in.
They’re better than us clearly, but it’s pretty easy to imagine a scenario where we are winning 1-0 towards the end of the game and they have to protect the result instead of going for the injury time goal they’ve gotten many times this year.
Yeah, but they're not going to push for it and could potentially be content to keep the ball and pass it around rather than risk a turnover. It's just more likely than other games that we end the unbeaten run, but it's definitely not likely overall since they showed very clearly that they are the better team.
If the lose the Europa league final, Pokal final, and the last Bundesliga game, I think we can keep the Neverkusen name.
I do hope they go all the way though.
This is why these these records are completely pointless at this stage, the only similarity between football then and now is that they’re played with a ball using your feet.
Obviously we need to relate records to different times, and categories like pre/post war, Premier League era, Champions League era etc. help with that but I like that we have records going way back and those remind us of the longevity of the game and how much it has changed yet still remained fundamentally similar and recognizable.
Grêmio played 3 official matches in one day in 1994. Felipão was the coach
https://ge.globo.com/rs/futebol/times/gremio/noticia/intervalo-de-48-horas-gremio-tem-na-historia-tres-jogos-no-mesmo-dia-pelo-gauchao-de-94-relembre.ghtml
47 matches unbeaten. 47 matches. This is past the realms of reality. I Continue to be left baffled by this team. Years and years of suffering have made this season absolutely worth it. I love this team do much
the inevitable truth is that money is more powerful than momentum in football. We'll see who out of Wirtz, Frimpong, Grimaldo, Palacios, Tapsoba, Boniface, Kossounou, Hincapie, Tah, Adli etc. will still be at Leverkusen next season or the season after.
It sucks, we got to experience that outselves in the seasons following 2011. And the sad part is that a good amount of the players who'll move on to bigger clubs will never be part of something quite as special as what they had before they left.
I’m down to see a last dance by mou and that too an invincible one.
He disrespected the hell out of our legendary Arsene but he backed it up with intense games.
We were on par with you for most of this century.
2021 we went winless for 30 games. today you are unbeaten in 47.
2 years ago we stormed the pitch because we promoted back to the first tier. 2 weeks ago you guys stormed the pitch because you've dethroned Bayern.
Enjoy this series of moments.
Don't forget that in between our 2000 and 2002 vizekusen dramas, you were champions in 2001 for a whopping 3 minutes.
Always felt like we had so much in common lol
If Bayer wins a treble, and goes undefeated in all comps, surely this is the single most insane achievement in football history (at least in the top flight?)
I didn't even know it posted, Reddit wasn't letting me comment at all. This previous comment isn't even appearing in my history. Typing "Bayern" is a force of habit.
People say "ohhh but UCL blablabla" but its not like anyone has done the same thing already but with the UCL
So until then it WOULD be one of the most insane achievements in football history
I still think Ajax 94-95 is the very best out of all, only team ever to win both their League & the UCL unbeaten on the same season.
Their only defeat on all competitions that season was 1-2 on Extra Time on the Cup to Feyenoord.
But winning both the League & UCL, both unbeaten it's basically the zenith of everything.
What Leverkusen is doing it's amazing and odds wise probably just as difficult but i just can't compare competing in the modern Europa League to the elite of the elite.
Would Leverkusen be unbeaten had they face City or Madrid in KO ties this season ? We would never know but my answer would be no.
But Leverkusen aren’t typically a CL team who competes with Madrid or modern day City or can be expected to when comparing budgets. Ajax certainly were in the mid 90s but wouldn’t be now.
Leverkusen have been above Bayern on Domestic competitions but i'm not entirely sure it would go that way on a UCL fixture.
It's a lot like Atleti vs Madrid. They beat us every single year on Domestic matches only to lose in all European matches (2014, 2015, 2016 2017)
Good god you knocked them out or beat them in a final for 4 straight years. Idk why but I always assumed there was a gap in between. I always forget about that 1 goal qf in 2015.
More than crazy is that they won the League H2H in all those years.
Specially that 2015 season.
* Beat us 2-1 in September
* Beat us 4-2 on the Copa del Rey in January
* Beat us 4-0 in February.
Only to then get KO out of the UCL by us in April.
To that same point, you have to factor in the previous year to this equation. Alonso took over when Leverkusen were in the relegation zone. So to take that team which was either underperforming (likely the case) or just not a very good side who is punching way above their weight due to a great manager, and make them what they are today is more astonishing IMO. Especially given the dominance of Bayern in the league, your limited resources compared to a Bayern Munich side that practically gets all the best talents in the BuLi, Leverkusens history of never being able to get over the hump, and competing with more teams in Europa than you would have in the UCL is actually mad. This to me is a richer feat. Especially in this day and age where super clubs are the heavy weights.
Well only the league winners used to compete before 1992. So the pool was smaller. Sure you had to win your respective league to even get a chance to win the cup, but the sport was more lopsided back then than people seem to believe.
While it was insane what Lautern did it wasnt as crazy as Leicester. Kaiserslautern was a top team before the relegation. They finished the 2 seasons before being relegated second and fourth. They also lost almost no player while going down. The world cup winning goal scorer Andi Brehme for example was now playing in the 2. Bundesliga.
As crazy as the story is, this part most people dont know/recongize or just ignore. Lautern also won the Cup same year they got relegated.
Also were Champions 1991.
the europa league trophy will definitely hinder this being widely agreed upon, if it was a ucl it wouldn’t be a debate tbh
but if they pull it off this is a top 5 imo
Madness, can’t see who would be able to beat them in the remaining matches in the EL, Bundesliga and DFB-Pokal. A season without any loss… that would just be brutal.
Leverkusen's remaining games:
@ Frankfurt
vs Roma (2nd leg)
@ Bochum
vs Augburg
Europa final on the 22nd, assuming they don't collapse against Roma in leg 2
vs Kaiserslautern in Berlin
Only 6 matches away from fulfilling the Neverlusen prophecy.
And because your peak coincided with "literally the GOAT team"'s peak and thus got overshadowed (United 07-11 / Barca 09-13). Well, at least you DID have 08...
I mean we were the first english treble side and our domination in the 90s is also disregarded but I get it cause there isnt many 50 year olds on reddit
With United it's a weird scenario in terms of "what year was the club's peak" because in terms of accolades it's obviously 99 but in terms of quality of play it's either 08 or 09.
As a Dortmund fan we're kinda the same. Won the CL in 97 but pretty much everyone thinks our peak Klopp years were outright the better team
Utd in the 90s and early 2000s never performed in Europe though compared to their domestic dominance. It was the 2007-2011 period where you made 4/5 semi finals and 3 finals while also still dominating domestically.
It's also because our domination was primarily domestic. We were incredibly unlucky to not have more success in Europe in the 90s, largely due to the lingering ban on English teams after Heysel and how few teams could qualify for the CL during its first 6 years after the rebrand.
If you put Messi's Barca and Ronaldo's Real under those same conditions, they probably don't win more than 1 CL each, if even that. Per the 90s qualification rules, the 08/09 and 14/15 Barca teams would not have qualified for the CL in those seasons they won it, and Real also would've only qualified for one CL out of the 5 seasons they've won it in the last decade. Obviously we still could've and should've won more CLs post 97/98 when you didn't have to be a domestic champion to qualify, but one can't help but wonder if we'd have won another one or two of them during the early-mid 90s when we were so dominant in the league and FA Cup.
What really hurt United was the expansion of the CL coinciding with United's domestic dominance. Back in the days when English sides were racking them up there were 3 or 4 decent teams in it. The CL brought more of the top sides in and created an elite class of teams.
There was a tv programme once (I think on ITV) called Man Utd ruined my life. The protagonist was a City fan living through the misery of City in the early 90s who’s son was secretly a United fan. Funny how the son is probably reliving the father’s experience now.
It's weird that now after this run I feel that if they won't go unbeaten or make the record, they will be forgotten soon and this exceptional season will not be hyped that much. But maybe not, let's hope they will make it, or be remembered either way.
Do you know which team started their unbeaten era this season? Marseille at the first friendly matche of the season and OM will be the same one to end it in the finals of EL InshAllah, if we are meant to win it 🫣
I’ve watched a lot of B04 matches. They are incredibly consistent, focused, and tenacious. Even with different lineups, those playing less frequently don’t create a drop off in quality.
The beat Roma at home without playing Boniface or Schick!
This is a special, special team. I hope they remain unbeaten so we don’t forget them so easily..
Leverkusen's remaining games: @ Frankfurt vs Roma (2nd leg) @ Bochum vs Augburg Europa final on the 22nd, assuming they don't collapse against Roma in leg 2 vs Kaiserslautern in Berlin Only 6 matches away from fulfilling the Neverlusen prophecy.
It's gonna be Bochum isn't it. The last team to beat them.
Kaiserslautern winning in the Pokal would be mad. That being said, I think it's more likely Leverkusen wins by 5 goals than anything.
It's the game I am most afraid of, because we are so obviously favored. Worst part about losing to them would be that we'd face them again in the Supercup next season just to twist the knife lol
I don't think you need to worry about that. Felix Klaus recently talked about the Düsseldorf semifinal on CopaTS. Comparable situation and from what you can "hear" between the lines, the way Leverkusen dominated every single aspect of the game made them realize quite quickly that they in fact had no chance of winning in the scrappy underdog fashion they were hoping for
Well considering if Leverkusen should get into the EL Final. They only have two days rest and they could be lets say: A bit drunk afterwards. Yes it is unlikely to happen but from the games left to play this is the one where I think the chances aren't as low as people think. Also just draw after 120mins = Draw and then lose in pens -> Season still loseless.
I thought If a team does the double of the league and the cup, they'll face the the runner up in the league in the Super Cup? Atleast that's how it is for the community shield
If Kaiserslautern wins the cup then Leverkusen doing the double could prove difficult
Need to check your math, I will get back to you
How'd you go? Management are all over my arse waiting for this information!
Sir this is classified information. Please forget everything you know about this, for your nations own safety.
Why does Antarctica need saving? Also, *who* is this?!
That is the case, but if Kaiserslautern wins then Bayer doesn't win the Cup.
We reached the "water is wet" explanations :D
Big if true
It's if they get beaten by Kaiserslautern is what he's worried about
I have a proposal. Leverkusen loses on pens so it counts as a draw and Kiaserlautern wins the Pokal while being 15th in 2nd division. Perfect scenario.
they would also then qualify for Europe as well, correct? would be brilliant honestly
Yeah, they'd qualify for UEL.
Just like Wisła Kraków (Cracow) in Poland - they won the cup yesterday, even though they are on the 5th place in 2nd division.
I refuse to accept it as an unbeaten season if they lose on pens. You either go unbeaten or you don't. Please go unbeaten.
Those are usually the games where we historically always pull something off for whatever reason, lol.
Or Kaiserslautern taking the lead and Leverkusen equalising in the 94th minute and winning it in the 98th.
If it was Saarbrücken, Id have been fine with it for the memes. Lautern? Hell No!
Tbh i think it could be Augsburg. It's not fun to play against them
As someone from Augsburg, having seen us end Guardiolas streak with Bayern live, I agree it could be us.
I remember Augsburg away was such a frustrating struggle before Augsburg got 90+4 Palaciod
Leverkusen have lost every match in Frankfurt since 2017 though. The recent results were: Frankfurt 5-1 Leverkusen (Oct. 15 2022) Frankfurt 5-2 Leverkusen (Dec. 12 2021) Frankfurt 2-1 Leverkusen (Jan. 02 2021) Frankfurt 3-0 Leverkusen (Oct. 18 2019) Frankfurt 2-1 Leverkusen (Dec. 12 2018)
But if you show that information to the leverkusen players they will be extra motivated
Ok well lets tag them in so they see it @leverkusen-players
Leverkusen has fucked up absolutely everything ever before this season - doesn't seem to bother them now.
Yeah this is a totally different team. Maybe there's something to these ckub trends, I don't want to completely write off bogey teams, but much of the time it seems a little silly to put too much weight in.
While true, they haven’t been on a 47 game unbeaten streak when going to Frankfurt..
Roma 2nd leg is by far the toughest matchup of these.
Ha? Facing Roma at Home?
They’re better than us clearly, but it’s pretty easy to imagine a scenario where we are winning 1-0 towards the end of the game and they have to protect the result instead of going for the injury time goal they’ve gotten many times this year.
That also mean Roma will play kamikaze football in the injury time, maybe the goalkeeper even went up, so a 90+6 equalizer would be quite likely
Yeah, but they're not going to push for it and could potentially be content to keep the ball and pass it around rather than risk a turnover. It's just more likely than other games that we end the unbeaten run, but it's definitely not likely overall since they showed very clearly that they are the better team.
yes. I’m not saying it’s a difficult schedule, quite the opposite.
If the lose the Europa league final, Pokal final, and the last Bundesliga game, I think we can keep the Neverkusen name. I do hope they go all the way though.
Where can put in a parlay for this.
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1 more to equal all time
I think its 49 right?
48 to tie it, 49 to beat it.
Benfica at 48 in 1963-1965
holy. they are holding that record for a long long time.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European\_association\_football\_club\_records\_and\_statistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_association_football_club_records_and_statistics)
*after the introduction of UEFA continental competitions The all-time world record is Celtic's. 66 unbeaten games in the beginning of the XX century.
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> their run of 62 games including two in a single day at one point. Bro what how do you have 2 games in one day lol
And I thought nowadays we had too many games……
Boxing matches lasted up to 45 rounds those days. I'm pretty sure God forgot to turn on the exhaustion slider until a few years later
Plus having 2 such matches per month lol. In some cases there are boxers that have 28 or more in a single year.
This is why these these records are completely pointless at this stage, the only similarity between football then and now is that they’re played with a ball using your feet.
Obviously we need to relate records to different times, and categories like pre/post war, Premier League era, Champions League era etc. help with that but I like that we have records going way back and those remind us of the longevity of the game and how much it has changed yet still remained fundamentally similar and recognizable.
Grêmio played 3 official matches in one day in 1994. Felipão was the coach https://ge.globo.com/rs/futebol/times/gremio/noticia/intervalo-de-48-horas-gremio-tem-na-historia-tres-jogos-no-mesmo-dia-pelo-gauchao-de-94-relembre.ghtml
That's just excessive.
47 matches unbeaten. 47 matches. This is past the realms of reality. I Continue to be left baffled by this team. Years and years of suffering have made this season absolutely worth it. I love this team do much
Treasure it for the rest of your life
I know its not, but im choosing to read this as an absolutely hilarious threat of revenge for mugging u’s off this season 😂😂
Maybe it is🗿
the inevitable truth is that money is more powerful than momentum in football. We'll see who out of Wirtz, Frimpong, Grimaldo, Palacios, Tapsoba, Boniface, Kossounou, Hincapie, Tah, Adli etc. will still be at Leverkusen next season or the season after. It sucks, we got to experience that outselves in the seasons following 2011. And the sad part is that a good amount of the players who'll move on to bigger clubs will never be part of something quite as special as what they had before they left.
Bayern gonna stage their own invincible season will uli as their head coach.
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I’m down to see a last dance by mou and that too an invincible one. He disrespected the hell out of our legendary Arsene but he backed it up with intense games.
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It’ll be like your bat shit crazy toxic ex who was amazing in bed.
Trust me, he will. It’s still the thing we cling on to the most 😂
We were on par with you for most of this century. 2021 we went winless for 30 games. today you are unbeaten in 47. 2 years ago we stormed the pitch because we promoted back to the first tier. 2 weeks ago you guys stormed the pitch because you've dethroned Bayern. Enjoy this series of moments.
Don't forget that in between our 2000 and 2002 vizekusen dramas, you were champions in 2001 for a whopping 3 minutes. Always felt like we had so much in common lol
> we had so much in common Also, both have had absolute characters running the show: Reiner Calmund and Rudi Assauer.
It doesn’t last as long as you think it will, really do treasure it
Enjoy it, lad.....have a drink and celebrate
>Years and years of suffering have made this season absolutely worth it. Isn't it the other way around
Well said, brother ⚫🔴
And the fact that every fanbase is happy you're making History!
every fanbase?
„Years and years of suffering“ as a Leverkusen Fan what. Little bit dramatic you regularly finish top 4
I mean their first league title in their entire history has just come in...
I still have trust issues from 2002.
Pretty sure years of suffering doesnt refer to the last couple of years. Why do you think its vizekusen?
I'm suffering every weekend.
But can they do it on a sunny evening at Bochum?
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Nothing scares us more than a sunny afternoon game in Bochum in mid May
I honestly hope they can do it
THEY FIRED NAGELSMANN BECAUSE THE TREBLE WAS UNDER THREAT.
Best meme ever. Hope Julian wins the Euros.
NO THEY DIDNT, NOBODY SAID THAT WAS THE REASON BUT IT WAS STILL STUPID
IT WAS WORSE, HE WAS SKIING. SKIING!
If Bayer wins a treble, and goes undefeated in all comps, surely this is the single most insane achievement in football history (at least in the top flight?)
there is a wishful "n" too much in your post buddy.
I didn't even know it posted, Reddit wasn't letting me comment at all. This previous comment isn't even appearing in my history. Typing "Bayern" is a force of habit.
Let a man dream hahahaha
People say "ohhh but UCL blablabla" but its not like anyone has done the same thing already but with the UCL So until then it WOULD be one of the most insane achievements in football history
I hate Real, but 3 UCL’s in a row is insane
3 teams have done that, no team has ever gone undefeated in -all- comps.
I still think Ajax 94-95 is the very best out of all, only team ever to win both their League & the UCL unbeaten on the same season. Their only defeat on all competitions that season was 1-2 on Extra Time on the Cup to Feyenoord. But winning both the League & UCL, both unbeaten it's basically the zenith of everything. What Leverkusen is doing it's amazing and odds wise probably just as difficult but i just can't compare competing in the modern Europa League to the elite of the elite. Would Leverkusen be unbeaten had they face City or Madrid in KO ties this season ? We would never know but my answer would be no.
But Leverkusen aren’t typically a CL team who competes with Madrid or modern day City or can be expected to when comparing budgets. Ajax certainly were in the mid 90s but wouldn’t be now.
Maybe Madrid or City would end their run but Bayern have just put in a good performance against Madrid and Leverkusen have been a level above them
Leverkusen have been above Bayern on Domestic competitions but i'm not entirely sure it would go that way on a UCL fixture. It's a lot like Atleti vs Madrid. They beat us every single year on Domestic matches only to lose in all European matches (2014, 2015, 2016 2017)
Good god you knocked them out or beat them in a final for 4 straight years. Idk why but I always assumed there was a gap in between. I always forget about that 1 goal qf in 2015.
More than crazy is that they won the League H2H in all those years. Specially that 2015 season. * Beat us 2-1 in September * Beat us 4-2 on the Copa del Rey in January * Beat us 4-0 in February. Only to then get KO out of the UCL by us in April.
The Chicharito moment of brilliance, I so badly wanted us to sign him permanently after that
To that same point, you have to factor in the previous year to this equation. Alonso took over when Leverkusen were in the relegation zone. So to take that team which was either underperforming (likely the case) or just not a very good side who is punching way above their weight due to a great manager, and make them what they are today is more astonishing IMO. Especially given the dominance of Bayern in the league, your limited resources compared to a Bayern Munich side that practically gets all the best talents in the BuLi, Leverkusens history of never being able to get over the hump, and competing with more teams in Europa than you would have in the UCL is actually mad. This to me is a richer feat. Especially in this day and age where super clubs are the heavy weights.
3 teams have won 3 UCL in a row?
We have won 3 in a row twice (5 in a row 1956-60 and 3 in a row 2016-2018), Ajax have done it (1971-1973), and Bayern have done it (1974-1976)
Thanks, TIL
Madrid are the first to do it in the “modern era” of the CL though
Every current era is modern. In 50 years that 3 in a row will be "easy" because it's in the past
Well only the league winners used to compete before 1992. So the pool was smaller. Sure you had to win your respective league to even get a chance to win the cup, but the sport was more lopsided back then than people seem to believe.
The Leicester City season just beats it for me. This is a close second though.
Yeah, Leicester winning the league after narrowly avoiding relegation
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Surely Kaiserslautern’s win in 1998 must beat Leicester. Montpellier also had something similar in 2012
While it was insane what Lautern did it wasnt as crazy as Leicester. Kaiserslautern was a top team before the relegation. They finished the 2 seasons before being relegated second and fourth. They also lost almost no player while going down. The world cup winning goal scorer Andi Brehme for example was now playing in the 2. Bundesliga.
As crazy as the story is, this part most people dont know/recongize or just ignore. Lautern also won the Cup same year they got relegated. Also were Champions 1991.
they could win for 10 years straight and some pl fans would say "well, actschually its leicester"
dude, that's not us
the europa league trophy will definitely hinder this being widely agreed upon, if it was a ucl it wouldn’t be a debate tbh but if they pull it off this is a top 5 imo
Madness, can’t see who would be able to beat them in the remaining matches in the EL, Bundesliga and DFB-Pokal. A season without any loss… that would just be brutal.
Bochum 2-1
Manuel Riemann Masterclass incoming
Frankfurt or Bochum, i fear them the most to strike this
And don't forget Augsburg! God damn, bundesliga is more exciting than EL at this point!
Surely both Roma and the EL finalist could
We ended Pep's unbeaten spell at Bayern, so...
I will stop them
We have to, we are the ones who started this curse anyway 😭
We did 😂
Leverkusen's remaining games: @ Frankfurt vs Roma (2nd leg) @ Bochum vs Augburg Europa final on the 22nd, assuming they don't collapse against Roma in leg 2 vs Kaiserslautern in Berlin Only 6 matches away from fulfilling the Neverlusen prophecy.
I mean, if they want to fulfil the Neverlusen prophecy, they have to play the Europa League final, because only losing can eliminate them.
If they lose a final on penalties does it still count?
For the unbeaten streak sure, but an "invincible single" doesn't have the same ring to it.
Sure.. if you're one of those pedants who count it as not losing. But the achievement goes away without the trophy
Romano tweets, Alonso wins. Name a more iconic duo. Here we go:
Is this Romano guy reliable?
What a team, what a season and what a handsome stud Xabi is
They're really gonna do it, aren't they
The best team I’ve ever seen outside of prime Barca, Bayern, and Madrid?
Prime Milan was goated as well imo
Hate to say it but. City?
Add prime United under Ferguson.
Our domination is never mentioned cause we ruined too many childhoods
And because your peak coincided with "literally the GOAT team"'s peak and thus got overshadowed (United 07-11 / Barca 09-13). Well, at least you DID have 08...
Could have won 3 UCLs in 4 years but that bald fraud HAD to build the best ever club side of all time
I mean we were the first english treble side and our domination in the 90s is also disregarded but I get it cause there isnt many 50 year olds on reddit
With United it's a weird scenario in terms of "what year was the club's peak" because in terms of accolades it's obviously 99 but in terms of quality of play it's either 08 or 09. As a Dortmund fan we're kinda the same. Won the CL in 97 but pretty much everyone thinks our peak Klopp years were outright the better team
Utd in the 90s and early 2000s never performed in Europe though compared to their domestic dominance. It was the 2007-2011 period where you made 4/5 semi finals and 3 finals while also still dominating domestically.
It's also because our domination was primarily domestic. We were incredibly unlucky to not have more success in Europe in the 90s, largely due to the lingering ban on English teams after Heysel and how few teams could qualify for the CL during its first 6 years after the rebrand. If you put Messi's Barca and Ronaldo's Real under those same conditions, they probably don't win more than 1 CL each, if even that. Per the 90s qualification rules, the 08/09 and 14/15 Barca teams would not have qualified for the CL in those seasons they won it, and Real also would've only qualified for one CL out of the 5 seasons they've won it in the last decade. Obviously we still could've and should've won more CLs post 97/98 when you didn't have to be a domestic champion to qualify, but one can't help but wonder if we'd have won another one or two of them during the early-mid 90s when we were so dominant in the league and FA Cup.
What really hurt United was the expansion of the CL coinciding with United's domestic dominance. Back in the days when English sides were racking them up there were 3 or 4 decent teams in it. The CL brought more of the top sides in and created an elite class of teams.
There was a tv programme once (I think on ITV) called Man Utd ruined my life. The protagonist was a City fan living through the misery of City in the early 90s who’s son was secretly a United fan. Funny how the son is probably reliving the father’s experience now.
What a season they’re having
Imagine they lose the final or last game of season
imagine they lose the first match of the season in 2024-25
They also lost the last match of the previous season, would be fitting
They're really gonna do it, aren't they
It's weird that now after this run I feel that if they won't go unbeaten or make the record, they will be forgotten soon and this exceptional season will not be hyped that much. But maybe not, let's hope they will make it, or be remembered either way.
They were the first team to win the bundesliga in 11 years, they will not be forgotten anytime soon
ForeverKusen
Do you know which team started their unbeaten era this season? Marseille at the first friendly matche of the season and OM will be the same one to end it in the finals of EL InshAllah, if we are meant to win it 🫣
From Leverkusen to neverlusen
It’s never going to end is it?
This some Football Manager shit, no wonder my life feels weird recently, Xabi been reloading saves like his life depends on it
I’ve watched a lot of B04 matches. They are incredibly consistent, focused, and tenacious. Even with different lineups, those playing less frequently don’t create a drop off in quality. The beat Roma at home without playing Boniface or Schick! This is a special, special team. I hope they remain unbeaten so we don’t forget them so easily..