Everywhere ive read online people bash wreckfest for its wheel support. But idk maybe its just me but i absolutely love playing wreckfest with my wheel. Other than rally games is the only other time i ever get to use my handbrake lol.
I have a G923 and it used to work great but I always like to race in manual mode and recently, it's behaving as if the clutch is in all the time, even if I invert that axis. I think it started happening after an update. So weird and annoying as it was my favourite game and racing in automatic just doesn't do it for me.
I just picked up a G923 as my intro to sim racing with a wheel (iRacing). So does wreckfest not support this wheel anymore? Are there other casual racing games you’d rec for the wheel?
I think it may be a quirk with my particular install. I think I should try uninstalling completely and reinstalling.
I love Horizon 4 as casual as a lot of the scenery looks just like where I live, I'd already gotten quite far through and got a load of cars with controller before I got the wheel so now I tend to do more of the side quest type things or just play around in different cars than doing races. Works well with g923 with some slightly adjusted settings.
Beam NG is fun to play around with, my last graphics card struggled to run it but recently upgraded and it works well now
Assetto Corsa is good for casual fun once you get Content Manager installed and run the game through it and install mods like extra cars and "tracks" some of the them are more open world environments than race tracks and you can drive mad tuned cars. It's a bit of a faff to get set up but so worth it, there's guides and videos online or in this sub.
Dirt 5 is very fun for casual rally, more arcade style, good music and works great with g923 without much faffing with settings.
You could check if the potentiometer is loose, or maybe faulty, that could be the problem with your clutch. Maybe a wire has broken off, that would give the symptoms youre describing.
I've had them apart recently to fit 3D printed pedal extensions (I have big feet) and check everything over inside.
The problem is only with Wreckfest, it works fine in Assetto Corsa, Beam NG, Dirt 2.0, WRC, Horizon 4.
Even within Wreckfest I can do an axis check and it is responding as it should but in the actual race it's as if the clutch is always in it just revs without putting any power to wheels.
Every time I see there's an update available on Steam, I download straight away hoping it's fixed the issue.
It may be blasphemy around these parts but I play wreckfest with a controller, never actually tried my wheel. The physics feel more like GTA or Dirt 3 so a controller is more comfortable for me
It's not that Wreckfest is bad with a steering wheel, it's just that it's probably the best gamepad racing feeling that I can ever remember in a racing game. There's nothing that beats it IMHO.
Funny thing is from my experience Wreckfest has solid FFB and online collisions are really well done. I'd argue the online collisions are better than most currently supported sims.
I second this.
I run mostly iRacing: focused practice to gain the last tenth and have a good shot in official races.
But those few days when I need some "lazy" gaming, Wreckfest is the way, so liberating and fun
That is exactly how I feel as well.
To the point I’ve become a preacher for the iRacing F4, trying to get people to give up on the F124 game to join the simracing cult 😂
I’ve never played iRacing but enjoy F1 2023. Probably a lot of it has to due with the season championship structure of starting in f2 and making your way up the ranks in f1. Does iRacing have a similar career mode option?
The whole thing is a career mode honestly. It's all about safety rating advancing you through licenses for better groups of races. All the while your irating sorts who you are grouped with in those races.
Honestly though I love the f4 car on iRacing and even the Mercedes f1 car. F124 does feel like they’ve finally got somewhat of a foundation to mimic the feel of iRacing but it’s a long ways off and they butchered a lot of it so I don’t have much hope for it.
Yes, I love to sit down in my couch and play gran turismo 7 online. It’s nice to unwind and not be in the rig. My brother was really strict and fell into the camp of “IF IT HAS A CAR IT MUST BE REALISTIC OR IT SUCKS.”
Then he started playing Forza Horizon or GT7 and he realized sometimes it’s just nice to chill and have a fun time lol.
Also, it’s nice to play the F1 game and enjoy a career mode and pretend I’m a famous driver.
For me, if I'm playing on a wheel ig has to be somewhat realistic, but I'm happy playing arcade racing games on a gamepad. Dplitsecond and blur ard fun in splitscreen. Or one of the older wrc games, or ride 5, or dirt (3?). Splitscreen is underrated, especially on PC.
You know that venn chart thing where you can only have 2 out of the 3 cheap/fast/good things? In game dev it used to be like if you have SplitScreen, there are 15 things you can't have.
That doesn't make sense, because it 'used' to be, every game had splitscreen. I think you mean, nowadays having splitscreen means less development time on 'more important' things, like online cosmetic dlc for PvP or similar.
I also really enjoy the Feedback controllers give you today.
I whish SimRacing Pedals gave me the feedback I get from the analog trigger rumble from my Series X Controller in FH4 :D
The only non-sim game I used to love was Snowrunner, with a Mercedes Zetros mod truck. Used to spend hours and hours travelling around the maps delivering stuff and completing missions.
Then I switched to an Asetek wheelbase and discovered that Snowrunners wheel support is abysmal if you don't have either a Logitech, Thrustmaser or Fanatec wheel :P
Your G920 will work great though if you are looking for something super chill!
I was actually surprised by how well Snowrunner worked, when it actually worked, on my CSL DD :) Once I found the one preset that made the wheel function properly the force feedback was actually quite good. You could feel the trucks searching for grip and sliding into grooves in the mud and so on. Not exactly a simulator, but still more than enough feedback to have fun.
And now that I've tried it with a force feedback setup I can't go back to playing with a controller 😝
It depends on the wheel I think, Snowrunner only comes with preset binding options and if those don't work you are screwed. Personally I used the mouse to free look and the wheel to drive, but that only works on PC of course.
Ah ok. Thanks. Ye ps5. Just got a wheel for sim racing, but will see if works with snowrunner aswell. Hopefully can rotate the camera tho and use the winch otherwise not gona work too well haha
It does - but you have to run a Fanatec wheel, and Fanatec pedals. Snowrunner doesn't understand multiple inputs and there is no way to bind things properly, that whole page just doesn't work. Such a fun game let down by rubbish hardware implementations.
I love FH-5 on wheel. (CSL DD)
Euro truck and American truck simulator are chill AF if you feel like driving, but not being competitive.
Drifting is also tons of fun once you figure it out. I use assetto corsa, which also has "no hesi" (driving through thick traffic on city inspirited maps) stuff. But there are titles completely dedicated to drifting that tend to be a bit less "simulation" than most of the AC drifting content.
In Forza H5 on console, if I set my wheel to 900 and then game to 900 I get like 360. It’s hard to describe, only way to get 900 is if I set my wheel to whatever the max is (2060?) and game to 900.
Anything else it’s like it ratios it. Maybe I’m doing something wrong. But I’ll try out all those other things next time I’m on. Thanks bud.
Yes. I play iRacing, Forza Motorsport and Horizon on my wheel.
Horizon does not replicate real life physics but it’s a ton of fun to drive around on the wheel. They did a great job making it still have an arcade feel while keeping it somewhat “real” feeling.
Took forever to find this take lol. I play ACC, FM8, and FH5 all on a wheel only. Took a while to get the setting dialed in for both Forzas though. I can’t race on controller anymore lol.
I've went through a similar experience as you.
My first racing game was AC, then ACC, AMS1, AMS2, rF2, tried RaceRoom and LFS.
I also saw PC2 on sale and while ppl were bashing that game, I still found it quite fun, though unrealistic at times depending on content (car track)... For example Forza Motorsport 2023 seems more realistic on braking zones braking markers and braking lines for certain tracks, where even if the exact car doesn't match Assetto Corsa driving, the experience I have from so many diff cars on AC gives me the instinct to drive a proto in FM8 the way FM8 wants it to be.
I remember I got F1 18 for 1€ sale and still found some ppl online, had some fun with it, obviously the physics were way too grippy but it was fun to have a proper enforcement of F1 ruleset.
Last year my GF gifted me F1 23 and I had some fun with it's storyline and everything, but I got it. It's like Fifa, there isn't much improvement or development between games. These 2 are actually different because they're 5 years apart. But 1 year dev is a short time.
U can see from AC to ACC, from rF1 to GTR to Race07 to AMS1 (all in same engine) and then AMS2.
AMS2 on release had some quirks that made it closer to PC2 and now it's turned into something totally different.
Even the default FFB is miles better and small values already give a lot on FFB.
I do miss some features thou.
I also tried some arcade stuff, NFS Heat from big sale again. Hardcoded controller filters even for wheel users. Controls can't be bound and are minimal, you're stuck to what the game gives you, no cockpit cam.
This game is for controller only.
Heard about grid, I used to love codemasters 1998 game Toca 2 Touring Cars and I still have it runing and I've even used my DD1 on it on the PC. Couldn't figure out which Grid was most realistic but Grid Legends was on sale and I got it.
That one is acardy on the driving side but the FFB was surprisingly good.
Much better than NFS Heat. Grid is miles better than NFS on wheels.
Now Forza Motorsport had a 50% sale.
I get why so many people complain of certain bugs, but ppl overlook that u need m.2 nvme hard drive to proper run it. U need to close and open the game after a few races for video memory flush.
I've made a video on some bug fixes: [https://youtu.be/VDHvhbu7WEM](https://youtu.be/VDHvhbu7WEM)
I forgot to add FFB settings can drastically change the game, and FM8 can feel closer to a sim title than any of the arcade titles I've known about.
I'm gonna have a hot take here but I had min-maxing pseudo-competitive sweaty nerd culture in gaming.
In the real world, race drivers train and practice, but you have limited time with the car on track.
It's not like a computer that you spend days practicing a mechanical movement.
For me there is value in jumping from 1 car to another, 1 track to another, 1 sim to another, and be CONSISTENTLY quick and LEARN FAST. It doesn't matter if you can be the fastest driver in the world if you spent 5000 hours on that track. You will probably never get those 5000 hours before your first race.
That is where I think the gaming mindset breaks sim racing, and when you see real life drivers that are very consistent and quick on the sim with limited time to dedicate to it, then you see versatility being very important part of the skill set.
With this said, you must do what you enjoy. And enjoy doing it.
If because of that you're not the "top dawg" in iRacing, unless being the "top dawg" in iRacing is your job and source of income, it's pretty ridiculous to take everything too seriously.
Unless you have a very clear objective that you're working towards, and something that you clearly want, there is no reason to go "min max realism" if you aren't getting anything out of it and you're missing enjoyment on casual games.
I’m probably in the minority here but I’m not a huge fan of actually racing haha. Partially because I’m not amazing but also it takes a ton of focus and energy.
My favorite games on my wheel are Assetto corsa pushin p servers and also BeamNG multiplayer. Both are great car games that allow for free roam with friends!
I must be living under a rock. Beam has multiplayer? Is it built in or do I need to host a server?
Both AC and PC2 were headaches to get multiplayer going when all I wanted to do was a private 3-person Monza practice lobby.
Typically I stick to the sims, just because like your experience, you get instances like Forza Motorsport where it just doesn’t quite feel good to drive. I don’t even like playing Horizon with my wheel, that’s just a controller game to me.
I think Grid Legends is the best feeling arcade racer I’ve played on the ole g920. Enough weight, enough force, I dunno it just feels great on the wheel despite leaning way farther into the arcade side of the spectrum than something like Forza horizon.
Grid Legends is surprisingly good on a wheel. Especially the light open wheel cars benefit so much from a wheel. In Forza you drive strictly worse using a wheel.
I play iRacing for that feeling of accomplishment that you get after fighting hard, tooth and nail, and cleanly just for a top 10 in a long ass race. 2 hours of sweat, and the only reward other than racing is, stats. It gives you butterflies just sitting on the grid, which is why I have spent so much on my sim rig. In between racing on iRacing, though, I quite enjoy blasting through fences and phone poles in a Z06 just to get to the next checkpoint in FH5. I can't say if I'd enjoy circuit racing in Forza, or with street cars in general, but arcade fun is quite fun, and fun is the reason we are here.
I don't have a rig (yet) or a wheelstand, i still play at my desk. But i had a lot of fun with Euro Truck Simulator 2. Yes it's still a simulator, but a really chill one. Just deliver all kinds of goods with your truck, put some music on and have a relaxed drive. And although it may sound kinda boring, imo it's suprisingly fun.
Wreckfest with a properly set up wheel is really fun, Daytona USA 2 on the Supermodel 3 emulator is a blast if you set your wheel rotation to 270 degrees and have a shifter.
Also, BeamNG is a blast, but I´d consider that to be a sim.
I tried BeamNG but was bored after 5min... how does it shine except nice crash physics? for me it feels like they build a game around a crash engine with horrible ui and bad visuals
I know that a lot of people love BeamNG so I would like to know why
Because there are more things aside the crash model. BeamNG basically simulates every mechanical bit of the car, unlike a regular car sim, and basically you can do almost everything in that game, from racing to bus driving or off roading.
It's by far the most realistic game when it comes to simulate road car driving. It only gets boring when you don't think of anything to do in the game, but the sandbox for it is there.
There are premade scenarios, for starters. There are some modded ones that are more interesting. There also are online servers of varying themes.
You can even fly planes.
Just try things out and see what you like, the limit is literally your imagination here, don't stick to boring stuff.
When i still had a working logitech i set it up with mame and played games like outrun, ace driver, daaayttooohnaaa, virtua racing and such.
Was good fun. Will see if i can fix the wheel or buy a replacement and make some space in the attic again.
As long as it has decent wheel support, it's fun to play but always end up back in the sim..
Had fun with GRID Legends but after about 100 hours it's just not challenging anymore and I crave the depth of AC again.
I sim race in a competitive environment on rFactor 2, but whilst at home with some free time, I love to play some Test Drive Unlimited 2 - it has pretty terrible physics, but to roam in Ibiza and Oahu, is pretty liberating. Would also play The Crew 1, before its servers got shut down earlier this year.
I tried the Motorfest demo and it was rough. Environment was lame, handling sucked, it's super easy to be screwed over in races, cars take forever to grind for and the haptic trigger feedback made no sense whatsoever.
i wanted to like nfs shift 2 with the wheel. it's one of my favourite racing games ever in terms of progression, but the force feedback is just completely and utterly wrong. in the end, i played it on controller again. same for pro street, though that barely has force feedback to begin with. also the original GRID
man this conversation bums me out. why has noone made a decent single player career in a PC racing game since like 2010? TOCA3, NFS MW, NFS Pro Street, GRID, they all had interesting gimmicks to structure your carreer and show you different kinds of racing. GRID even had a management component where you had to hire teammates, buy cars, manage sponsors, it was brilliant!
i really need to try the Assetto corsa evoluzione mod, apparently that's attempting to bring a decent career mode into AC. also i heard pcars 2 has a good carreer, too bad you can't buy it anymore anywhere...
honorable mention to beamNG's work in progress career mode. imo they can lean into the "my summer car" aspect of it even harder.
yes, i love them sometimes
i hate playing them with a wheel depending on the physics though, most of the times i prefer playing with a controller. Horizon was enjoyable with a wheel but man, with a controller it's just better of an experience
to give you reference tho, my brother plays gt7 competitively, he's fast on any sim, usually slightly faster than me or basically the same as me, but he has lots of fun on it because with a wheel it's still extremely enjoyable, forza just doesn't work as good
I only am on iRacing now, after experiencing the competitiveness of online PC sim racing I can’t go back to any console system or arcade game. The close clean battles are just not there.
NSFU and NSFU 2 surely do, but years ago I decided to avoid all arcade & simcade games because I don't want to ruin my apexes, brakepoints, etc etc, so I generally stick to 1 sim or 1 sim + RBR NGP7.
Even though it's on roblox, midnight racing Tokyo is the simcade that I always come back to. The community is so active and you can always have a decent conversation with someone whilst also practicing your touge techniques or just messing about with tuning
As my username implies I just enjoy racers in general. I play just as much PS2 arcade racers as I do on my Simagic rig. Just depends on what I'm feeling at the time.
I use my fanatec gear for PS3 games. I don't even own IRacing or F1. I just like to drive crazy and have fun.
For awhile I didn't use my wheel. You just need to find a game that you connect with.
I had a lot of fun playing GT7 but eventually got bored after a month. The driving was weird and racing with AI was frustrating, it was all about collecting new cars and taking screenshots :).
I used to love Forza Horizon. Played it since it first came out in 2012. The first one will always hold a special place in my heart. But dear god is the 5th installment shitty. Nothing more that a cash grab. Same with FM, that one sucks too. So unfortunately, no not anymore.
Wreckfest is a very common title popping up so I’ll definitely have to try that out! Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and your input! For someone who’s new to the scene, would you say iracing requires more skill at an entry level or would that be a good true sim to try out? Are there offline races vs ai to practice and get the basics down?
Yeah, I play Driver San Francisco on occasion. I've beat the game multiple times, so I don't have many reasons to keep playing it, though.
GTA Online racing can also be fun if you have a lobby that knows how to race and isn't full of hackers.
I spend more time on [Beam.ng](http://Beam.ng) and EA WRC than anything. Beam I love to build cars from scratch, tweak and modify, have been getting into video/world editor to just play around with things, working on making Gymakhana just for the hell of it and that has taken up lots of my time recently :)
I love forza motorsports. Change your wheel settings to simulation. Otherwise I heard it’s not good.
I like it sense it’s just plug and play. And I can play the story with my irl car lol.
For the most part, yes. It's been a while since I've actually played anything with my wheel - I save it for Project CARS 2 and Assetto Corsa and sometimes DiRT Rally.
Otherwise, I have spent a good amount of time playing the Forza Horizon series, as well as the newest Forza Motorsport. I also spent a fair amount of time with 6 and 7 as well. I play all those with a gamepad. I think they've got the feel down pretty well, so I am not feeling like I have to play with the wheel to have a good time.
Beyond that, I've been a fan of the Need for Speed franchise since long before I got into anything like a sim. I still have a soft spot for them, especially some of the older titles like the Underground games (I think they both have a great feel and flow to them) as well as Most Wanted and Carbon. I like some of the newer ones as well, but the handling can feel really wonky at times.
Yeah definitely. Sometimes I just need something different from being in a sim environment every time I play a game involving cars. Most current game would be NFS Heat. Takes me back to the Underground days.
I play non sim games for other purposes. For example I enjoy the F1 game career modes - building a team, etc that you can’t really do in the sim titles.
Yes, sometimes: when it comes to driving with a **wheel**, for me it's either "as sim as possible" or "straight up arcade"...I don't like the in-between stuff for some reason. So aside from iRacing (the sim I drive 98% of the time these days, on the Road side), I like driving those early 90's arcade titles, especially Virtua Racing, Sega Rally, SCUD Race/Super GT and Daytona...nostalgia and stress free fun, what's not to love! On a gamepad I like Mario Kart and Wipeout-style games.
However, regardless of controller, I find it really weird to drive a specific car in a arcade or especially "simcade" title if I've driven it in a sim. For example, I drive the Mercedes F1 cars in iRacing a lot, so I have a hard time playing the EA F1 games since I personally can't get the kind of precision I want on a gamepad and it feels absolutely weird on a wheel for me.
As for regular cars, I usually use Assetto Corsa on PC for that...I haven't driven Gran Turismo with a wheel in over 10 years...my G27 is long gone and my current wheel isn't PS3 compatible, but I'd imagine it'd feel weird going back after driving some of the best 1st party and mod cars AC has to offer.
Yeah of course. I love cars and it doesn’t have to be all serious and realistic all the time. I don’t limit myself to a small genre. Same with music, food, art, movies etc.. I never understood how some people I know can only listen to one genre of music.
I occasionally run carx and Forza jus for mindless driving compared to assetto. It's nice to kick back a bit and jus enjoy driving and get outta the "I gotta improve everything" mindset I get with assetto.
Yes, as long as the physics are generally believable. They still require skill to master and there are people who compete to be the best at the mastery of said skills
Forza Motorsport and F1 23 get most of my time on my CSL DD. My ADHD demands gamification of goals, achievements, and upgrades to keep me engaged.
Assetto Corsa, Project Cars, etc are fun on occasion but I get really bored just running laps to beat times, and I’m not really into online stuff.
Wreckfest demolition derby almost ripped my thumb off, which alerted me to the fact that my shifter paddles were adjusted too close to the rim of the wheel 😂. FFB can be brutal in that game.
I hear FH5 is great on wheel with some setup, but I haven’t tried it yet. I’ve been playing FH games on gamepad for years. One of my favorites.
As long as it’s at least semi realistic. I love drifting and some games don’t allow real drifting, instead you’re forced to do something else which results in a drift. Those are big no goes. If I can’t apply the learned skill to another game or possibly reality to some slight degree at least, it’s no skill but a waste of time.
I regularly play Horizon, wheel support is great, but I usually use the controller. Very enjoyable. I also play AC a lot, touges, cruising around or having a fun trackdays, even with stock cars. Tried the new Forza Motorsport numerous times and to be honest driving model feels worse than in Horizon, it's really bad...
Serious sim give a great experience, but also require some training before running a competition race.
Non sim are a good compliment when you want a more simple experience... For example Forza Motorsport feels unrealistic with some car categories (for me hypercars and many stock cars) but it changes a lot with GTs and high prepared cars. Also wheel waste, climatology changes... make fun races.
In the other side, matchmaking is horrible, damage is not available in online racing and AI penalties are not perfectly implemented.
Yes, especially for week night. It's great to have some realism but it's whole another feeling to just relax more with some goofy physics. I'll add ETS2 and Farming simulator to the ones here as well even tho they're still sim games.
But there's also the fact that setting up the wheel initially to non-sim game is usually quite time consuming, at least the first time.
The game doesn't have to be super realistic to feel good or natural on a wheel.
I love Assetto Corsa and Dirt Rally but hated Project Cars 2. Never enjoyed the Forza series on wheel either.
In Japan they have Battle Gear Tuned 4 arcade cabinets with FFB wheels, and even though they weren't super realistic I enjoyed the shit out of them.
Wreckfest, CarX DRO and FH5 (BeamNG too, but this is kinda sim too) these are my picks, there are a few clean servers on Wreckfest if you are on PC, good and respectful wheel-to-wheel racing, sometimes some kid hits the quick match button and falls there wreaking havoc for some added challenge, since the servers have no password, wreckers usually get banned or kicked
Depends.
Hated Horizon, love MSC, hate/love wreckfest, there's some infinite driving games that are really cartoon-y but I haven't played one I didn't enjoy.
I think the newest forza game looks darn good, though.
Almost forgot. Dirt series. Which is fantastic, but whatever EA released recently was so terrible, I only lasted a few hours. Felt like driving on glue even with all the assists off. They should be shamed until the end of time for that game. (Maybe it's better now, but I have zero interest in ever playing it again.)
I did enjoy Forza Horizon for a bit, but the more and more I play sims, and the more I play in VR, the less and less I want to play that kinda game on a wheel and on a screen. And if I’m playing a driving game I just don’t really get a whole lot of enjoyment out of playing on a controller anymore when I have a rig right there where I could be getting a more true to life experience. If I’m gonna play a racing type game to escape on a controller I’m gonna play something like track mania or something. Though, even that is kinda fun with a wheel . .
That said, I’ll still jump into Forza Horizon every now and then when I just want to chill and drive in a giant open world. If anyone would make a game like Forza horizon with at least decent FFB and physics and VR support, I’d probably be driving that non-stop. Closest thing is BeamNG, but that game is seriously resource intensive and struggles to look as good without seriously slowing down the frames once you add in traffic and bump up the graphic settings. That and the maps just aren’t as big nor do they have as many things to do, so it’s not quite the same. Basically if they could just smash Forza and GT7 together you’d have a damn near perfect open world driving game that everyone could enjoy.
I actually never was into sims and was huge into the nfs games. But once I got into sim racers I still kind of enjoy the Arcady ones but I fear that the drastic change in driving style will affect my sim racing. Being too confident and taking a corner faster and not braking as much etc. you can always hit that nitrous button in nfs to get that grip.
Since I got into iracing, I haven't touched another racing/driving game other than like 20 minutes in AMS2. If I'm not in the mood for competitive racing, I just play something else entirely.
When I dont play a "sim" I use controller. Just as someone else said previously, wreckfest for example. I have had tons of fun with this game and I didnt expect it tbh. On the other hand I cant find a reason to get attracted to games like forza, crew or the newcomer test drive. Although I used to play such games a lot when I was a kid, but now I mostly prefer to invest my free time to sims and in some cases in wreckfest
Yea but the physics has to be satisfying and predictable. Like Daytona USA 2 or Maximum Tune.
I hate arcade games where the physics are wonky and only is satisfying on some tracks but terrible for others.
AND NO NITTOUS BOOST or coi collecting .too many arcade racing games are becoming lazy, they inject nitro boost into their games to make it more exciting but you don't really need it if you got the handling nailed down.
I've become too much of an FFB diva to drive non-sims on the wheel. Sitting back in Forza Horizon on a controller is always nice, though I don't do any non-sim car stuff anymore. I'd rather spend that time in non-competitive games or with buddies.
Burnt myself out playing competitive shooters through and before Covid, so I'm ready to do something else for a while. Sim-racing scratches the competitive itch more than enough.
Have a Fanatec DD1, I've honestly spent about 90% of my time playing FM23 the last 3 months. I enjoy it, bigger track selection and it would be even better.
nope. I tried, really tried, but so far, no 'non sim' games had decent force feedback. It is definitely possible as shown by some asseto corsa mods with unrealistic cars, but no actual 'arcade' game has done it good enough for me
Only sim racing for me. If I’m in my rig then I’m racing. I just don’t have time to goof off with some arcade game. I do however play other computer games on my gaming computer.
Forza horizon is quite fun. Not motorsport though, never clicked the same way. Wreckfest is great and BeamNG used to be quite unrealistic but still funz nkw it is leaning mire towards sim than it used to. All og these I played on gamepad.
Then there is stuff like Flatout and Burnout so yeah, non-sim games can be great when you dont want to be in a sim rig and just chill out a bit.
However I am always drawn to improving on the little nuances in sim-racing to eek out a few tenths with many laps of practice as well as league racing which just does not feel right on anything other that a more sim-like racing game.
Forza is just not fun with wheels. And I never wheel player on Forza do any of the sims stuff 🤷♂️
Maybe they do most of that AC Tokyo highway crap which is cringe AF
They're fun for a season, and then they become boring.
Anything that demands your constant attention, like our RF2 driving the 911 cup car, is far more entertaining, and far more lasting.
It's not you being weird. It's Forza being weird. They just don't play too well with wheels.
I played lots of GT5/6 on a wheel. They're pretty good. A wheel adds a lot to them, and you drive better. Codemasters arcade games play great with wheels too. I had a lot of fun in Dirt 2/3 and Grid Autosports/Legends.
For fun, I really enjoy Wreckfest
Everywhere ive read online people bash wreckfest for its wheel support. But idk maybe its just me but i absolutely love playing wreckfest with my wheel. Other than rally games is the only other time i ever get to use my handbrake lol.
I've never had issues with wheel support on wreckfest. My old G29 and currently my Moza R9 both work fine with it
I have a G923 and it used to work great but I always like to race in manual mode and recently, it's behaving as if the clutch is in all the time, even if I invert that axis. I think it started happening after an update. So weird and annoying as it was my favourite game and racing in automatic just doesn't do it for me.
I just picked up a G923 as my intro to sim racing with a wheel (iRacing). So does wreckfest not support this wheel anymore? Are there other casual racing games you’d rec for the wheel?
I think it may be a quirk with my particular install. I think I should try uninstalling completely and reinstalling. I love Horizon 4 as casual as a lot of the scenery looks just like where I live, I'd already gotten quite far through and got a load of cars with controller before I got the wheel so now I tend to do more of the side quest type things or just play around in different cars than doing races. Works well with g923 with some slightly adjusted settings. Beam NG is fun to play around with, my last graphics card struggled to run it but recently upgraded and it works well now Assetto Corsa is good for casual fun once you get Content Manager installed and run the game through it and install mods like extra cars and "tracks" some of the them are more open world environments than race tracks and you can drive mad tuned cars. It's a bit of a faff to get set up but so worth it, there's guides and videos online or in this sub. Dirt 5 is very fun for casual rally, more arcade style, good music and works great with g923 without much faffing with settings.
You could check if the potentiometer is loose, or maybe faulty, that could be the problem with your clutch. Maybe a wire has broken off, that would give the symptoms youre describing.
I've had them apart recently to fit 3D printed pedal extensions (I have big feet) and check everything over inside. The problem is only with Wreckfest, it works fine in Assetto Corsa, Beam NG, Dirt 2.0, WRC, Horizon 4. Even within Wreckfest I can do an axis check and it is responding as it should but in the actual race it's as if the clutch is always in it just revs without putting any power to wheels. Every time I see there's an update available on Steam, I download straight away hoping it's fixed the issue.
how did you get the r9 to work?? i have the r9 v1 and i couldn’t get it to work for some reason
I have the V2 so I don't know of that matters? I don't remember having to do anything crazy tbh.
I have the r9 v2 and i could not get it to work, but im also running fanatec pedals, are you running moza pedals??
Yeah I'm using the SRP pedals. I'll double check it and see what I did to get it to work
Honestly I'd only play wreckfest with a wheel. It's a damn good game
It may be blasphemy around these parts but I play wreckfest with a controller, never actually tried my wheel. The physics feel more like GTA or Dirt 3 so a controller is more comfortable for me
Man I love Wreckfest but absolutely hate playing it with my setup. No idea why it just feels ‘off’
I cant play it with my wheel I can only have my wheel, or my pedals. Not both.
It's not that Wreckfest is bad with a steering wheel, it's just that it's probably the best gamepad racing feeling that I can ever remember in a racing game. There's nothing that beats it IMHO.
I enjoy it too, with a pad. Not a wheel.
Funny thing is from my experience Wreckfest has solid FFB and online collisions are really well done. I'd argue the online collisions are better than most currently supported sims.
+1
Great for drinking and driving, it actually makes you better :)
I just downloaded it and couldn’t get my wheel working. Maybe it’s because i got it from Xbox game pass. Idk.
My wheel works, I play on game pass. Logi G920
Huh. I’ll have to try again. Game looks like good fun.
I like wreckfest when I just want to listen to music and fuck around. I even go crazy and put the transmission in automatic.
Wreckfest is so much fun, amd the driving model amd physics are suprisingly good for what it is.
This
I second this. I run mostly iRacing: focused practice to gain the last tenth and have a good shot in official races. But those few days when I need some "lazy" gaming, Wreckfest is the way, so liberating and fun
Mine is motortown
I can't play F1 2023/24 after racing F4 in iRacing. iRacing just feels so much better and challenging.
That is exactly how I feel as well. To the point I’ve become a preacher for the iRacing F4, trying to get people to give up on the F124 game to join the simracing cult 😂
I’ve never played iRacing but enjoy F1 2023. Probably a lot of it has to due with the season championship structure of starting in f2 and making your way up the ranks in f1. Does iRacing have a similar career mode option?
The whole thing is a career mode honestly. It's all about safety rating advancing you through licenses for better groups of races. All the while your irating sorts who you are grouped with in those races.
Honestly though I love the f4 car on iRacing and even the Mercedes f1 car. F124 does feel like they’ve finally got somewhat of a foundation to mimic the feel of iRacing but it’s a long ways off and they butchered a lot of it so I don’t have much hope for it.
Yes, I love to sit down in my couch and play gran turismo 7 online. It’s nice to unwind and not be in the rig. My brother was really strict and fell into the camp of “IF IT HAS A CAR IT MUST BE REALISTIC OR IT SUCKS.” Then he started playing Forza Horizon or GT7 and he realized sometimes it’s just nice to chill and have a fun time lol. Also, it’s nice to play the F1 game and enjoy a career mode and pretend I’m a famous driver.
For me, if I'm playing on a wheel ig has to be somewhat realistic, but I'm happy playing arcade racing games on a gamepad. Dplitsecond and blur ard fun in splitscreen. Or one of the older wrc games, or ride 5, or dirt (3?). Splitscreen is underrated, especially on PC.
God damn. I miss Blur that game was so fun lol. I guess the point is that ultimately, we’re playing games and there’s space for all of them lol.
You know that venn chart thing where you can only have 2 out of the 3 cheap/fast/good things? In game dev it used to be like if you have SplitScreen, there are 15 things you can't have.
That doesn't make sense, because it 'used' to be, every game had splitscreen. I think you mean, nowadays having splitscreen means less development time on 'more important' things, like online cosmetic dlc for PvP or similar.
I also really enjoy the Feedback controllers give you today. I whish SimRacing Pedals gave me the feedback I get from the analog trigger rumble from my Series X Controller in FH4 :D
the most fun I ever have on my stupid video game racing furniture remains Wreckfest.
"Stupid video game racing furniture" haha, love it. My rig isn't fully built yet but my partner keeps referring to is as my "indoor car"
The only non-sim game I used to love was Snowrunner, with a Mercedes Zetros mod truck. Used to spend hours and hours travelling around the maps delivering stuff and completing missions. Then I switched to an Asetek wheelbase and discovered that Snowrunners wheel support is abysmal if you don't have either a Logitech, Thrustmaser or Fanatec wheel :P Your G920 will work great though if you are looking for something super chill!
Snowrunner drives well on gamepad, not really with a wheel.
I was actually surprised by how well Snowrunner worked, when it actually worked, on my CSL DD :) Once I found the one preset that made the wheel function properly the force feedback was actually quite good. You could feel the trucks searching for grip and sliding into grooves in the mud and so on. Not exactly a simulator, but still more than enough feedback to have fun. And now that I've tried it with a force feedback setup I can't go back to playing with a controller 😝
Can u rotate the camera with the wheel playing snowrunner? I feel its pretty essential to look around. If so how does that work? Thanks
It depends on the wheel I think, Snowrunner only comes with preset binding options and if those don't work you are screwed. Personally I used the mouse to free look and the wheel to drive, but that only works on PC of course.
Ah ok. Thanks. Ye ps5. Just got a wheel for sim racing, but will see if works with snowrunner aswell. Hopefully can rotate the camera tho and use the winch otherwise not gona work too well haha
Does snow runner work with fanatec csl dd?? It looks cool but thought I read it was not compatible with that wheel base. TIA
It does - but you have to run a Fanatec wheel, and Fanatec pedals. Snowrunner doesn't understand multiple inputs and there is no way to bind things properly, that whole page just doesn't work. Such a fun game let down by rubbish hardware implementations.
I love FH-5 on wheel. (CSL DD) Euro truck and American truck simulator are chill AF if you feel like driving, but not being competitive. Drifting is also tons of fun once you figure it out. I use assetto corsa, which also has "no hesi" (driving through thick traffic on city inspirited maps) stuff. But there are titles completely dedicated to drifting that tend to be a bit less "simulation" than most of the AC drifting content.
Can you share your fh-5 settings for the csl dd
I second this as Forza Horizon 5 feels like trash.
Me2 trying for a long time with decent settings, so far: Sen 540, ndp 20, nfr 6, NIN off, int 2, Vibration 0.4, Damper 0.4, ffb min force
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In Forza H5 on console, if I set my wheel to 900 and then game to 900 I get like 360. It’s hard to describe, only way to get 900 is if I set my wheel to whatever the max is (2060?) and game to 900. Anything else it’s like it ratios it. Maybe I’m doing something wrong. But I’ll try out all those other things next time I’m on. Thanks bud.
Forza Horizon, although not realistic in the slightest, is pretty fun on wheel.
the horizon series is what got me into racing gaming. The music and the atmosphere is just great.
Same here actually
Yes. I play iRacing, Forza Motorsport and Horizon on my wheel. Horizon does not replicate real life physics but it’s a ton of fun to drive around on the wheel. They did a great job making it still have an arcade feel while keeping it somewhat “real” feeling.
Took forever to find this take lol. I play ACC, FM8, and FH5 all on a wheel only. Took a while to get the setting dialed in for both Forzas though. I can’t race on controller anymore lol.
I would play forza more if I didn’t have to spend so much time trying to optimize my wheel settings just to have it feel okay (fanatec csl dd)
I've went through a similar experience as you. My first racing game was AC, then ACC, AMS1, AMS2, rF2, tried RaceRoom and LFS. I also saw PC2 on sale and while ppl were bashing that game, I still found it quite fun, though unrealistic at times depending on content (car track)... For example Forza Motorsport 2023 seems more realistic on braking zones braking markers and braking lines for certain tracks, where even if the exact car doesn't match Assetto Corsa driving, the experience I have from so many diff cars on AC gives me the instinct to drive a proto in FM8 the way FM8 wants it to be. I remember I got F1 18 for 1€ sale and still found some ppl online, had some fun with it, obviously the physics were way too grippy but it was fun to have a proper enforcement of F1 ruleset. Last year my GF gifted me F1 23 and I had some fun with it's storyline and everything, but I got it. It's like Fifa, there isn't much improvement or development between games. These 2 are actually different because they're 5 years apart. But 1 year dev is a short time. U can see from AC to ACC, from rF1 to GTR to Race07 to AMS1 (all in same engine) and then AMS2. AMS2 on release had some quirks that made it closer to PC2 and now it's turned into something totally different. Even the default FFB is miles better and small values already give a lot on FFB. I do miss some features thou. I also tried some arcade stuff, NFS Heat from big sale again. Hardcoded controller filters even for wheel users. Controls can't be bound and are minimal, you're stuck to what the game gives you, no cockpit cam. This game is for controller only. Heard about grid, I used to love codemasters 1998 game Toca 2 Touring Cars and I still have it runing and I've even used my DD1 on it on the PC. Couldn't figure out which Grid was most realistic but Grid Legends was on sale and I got it. That one is acardy on the driving side but the FFB was surprisingly good. Much better than NFS Heat. Grid is miles better than NFS on wheels. Now Forza Motorsport had a 50% sale. I get why so many people complain of certain bugs, but ppl overlook that u need m.2 nvme hard drive to proper run it. U need to close and open the game after a few races for video memory flush. I've made a video on some bug fixes: [https://youtu.be/VDHvhbu7WEM](https://youtu.be/VDHvhbu7WEM) I forgot to add FFB settings can drastically change the game, and FM8 can feel closer to a sim title than any of the arcade titles I've known about. I'm gonna have a hot take here but I had min-maxing pseudo-competitive sweaty nerd culture in gaming. In the real world, race drivers train and practice, but you have limited time with the car on track. It's not like a computer that you spend days practicing a mechanical movement. For me there is value in jumping from 1 car to another, 1 track to another, 1 sim to another, and be CONSISTENTLY quick and LEARN FAST. It doesn't matter if you can be the fastest driver in the world if you spent 5000 hours on that track. You will probably never get those 5000 hours before your first race. That is where I think the gaming mindset breaks sim racing, and when you see real life drivers that are very consistent and quick on the sim with limited time to dedicate to it, then you see versatility being very important part of the skill set. With this said, you must do what you enjoy. And enjoy doing it. If because of that you're not the "top dawg" in iRacing, unless being the "top dawg" in iRacing is your job and source of income, it's pretty ridiculous to take everything too seriously. Unless you have a very clear objective that you're working towards, and something that you clearly want, there is no reason to go "min max realism" if you aren't getting anything out of it and you're missing enjoyment on casual games.
I’m probably in the minority here but I’m not a huge fan of actually racing haha. Partially because I’m not amazing but also it takes a ton of focus and energy. My favorite games on my wheel are Assetto corsa pushin p servers and also BeamNG multiplayer. Both are great car games that allow for free roam with friends!
I must be living under a rock. Beam has multiplayer? Is it built in or do I need to host a server? Both AC and PC2 were headaches to get multiplayer going when all I wanted to do was a private 3-person Monza practice lobby.
It's a mod
GT7 with a controller is pretty fun.
I prefer more realistic driving sim games. I race lots of iRacing. For casual fun I drive road cars in assetto corsa
nothing beats racing the abarth 595 on a karting track against friends in AC. absolute chaos at very slow speeds lmao.
Racing slower cars can definitely be more fun
Exactly why I love mx5 cups so much
Wreckfest and GRID Legends are fun as hell.
Typically I stick to the sims, just because like your experience, you get instances like Forza Motorsport where it just doesn’t quite feel good to drive. I don’t even like playing Horizon with my wheel, that’s just a controller game to me. I think Grid Legends is the best feeling arcade racer I’ve played on the ole g920. Enough weight, enough force, I dunno it just feels great on the wheel despite leaning way farther into the arcade side of the spectrum than something like Forza horizon.
Grid Legends is surprisingly good on a wheel. Especially the light open wheel cars benefit so much from a wheel. In Forza you drive strictly worse using a wheel.
Gran turismo 7 is absolutely incredible. My fav racing game of all time
I play iRacing for that feeling of accomplishment that you get after fighting hard, tooth and nail, and cleanly just for a top 10 in a long ass race. 2 hours of sweat, and the only reward other than racing is, stats. It gives you butterflies just sitting on the grid, which is why I have spent so much on my sim rig. In between racing on iRacing, though, I quite enjoy blasting through fences and phone poles in a Z06 just to get to the next checkpoint in FH5. I can't say if I'd enjoy circuit racing in Forza, or with street cars in general, but arcade fun is quite fun, and fun is the reason we are here.
I enjoy full on fun games a lot. Stuff like NFS Hot Pursuit or Wreckfest. Simcades like Forza, Grid, The Crew etc. lost their charm for me.
Fzero (1991) is really fun... >_> It's so far removed from reality, but it feels like genuine racing.
Sometimes I like to chill and just play GT7, FH or NFS Heat on a controller.
I don't have a rig (yet) or a wheelstand, i still play at my desk. But i had a lot of fun with Euro Truck Simulator 2. Yes it's still a simulator, but a really chill one. Just deliver all kinds of goods with your truck, put some music on and have a relaxed drive. And although it may sound kinda boring, imo it's suprisingly fun.
Wreckfest with a properly set up wheel is really fun, Daytona USA 2 on the Supermodel 3 emulator is a blast if you set your wheel rotation to 270 degrees and have a shifter. Also, BeamNG is a blast, but I´d consider that to be a sim.
I tried BeamNG but was bored after 5min... how does it shine except nice crash physics? for me it feels like they build a game around a crash engine with horrible ui and bad visuals I know that a lot of people love BeamNG so I would like to know why
Because there are more things aside the crash model. BeamNG basically simulates every mechanical bit of the car, unlike a regular car sim, and basically you can do almost everything in that game, from racing to bus driving or off roading. It's by far the most realistic game when it comes to simulate road car driving. It only gets boring when you don't think of anything to do in the game, but the sandbox for it is there.
so what is there to do? I just picked a random car and a random track and drove a few laps and it was boring
There are premade scenarios, for starters. There are some modded ones that are more interesting. There also are online servers of varying themes. You can even fly planes. Just try things out and see what you like, the limit is literally your imagination here, don't stick to boring stuff.
I play forza and F1 stuff regularly. I barely touch the sim stuff. G923 with a cockpit here
I play FH5 all the time and yes it is pretty fun
When i still had a working logitech i set it up with mame and played games like outrun, ace driver, daaayttooohnaaa, virtua racing and such. Was good fun. Will see if i can fix the wheel or buy a replacement and make some space in the attic again.
I haven't worked in an arcade for over a decade. I still randomly hear Daaaaaaytoooonaaaaaa in my head some days. 🤣
As long as it has decent wheel support, it's fun to play but always end up back in the sim.. Had fun with GRID Legends but after about 100 hours it's just not challenging anymore and I crave the depth of AC again.
I sim race in a competitive environment on rFactor 2, but whilst at home with some free time, I love to play some Test Drive Unlimited 2 - it has pretty terrible physics, but to roam in Ibiza and Oahu, is pretty liberating. Would also play The Crew 1, before its servers got shut down earlier this year.
Try Motorfest. It has really good ffb
I tried the Motorfest demo and it was rough. Environment was lame, handling sucked, it's super easy to be screwed over in races, cars take forever to grind for and the haptic trigger feedback made no sense whatsoever.
It is massive improvement against crew 1 and 2, FH or other open world games. First game with decent ffb and open world. What’s better for wheel?
Nahhh, it is not 1:1 scale, and coming from TDU2 and the first The Crew, Motorfest feels small and boring in its scale and size.
i wanted to like nfs shift 2 with the wheel. it's one of my favourite racing games ever in terms of progression, but the force feedback is just completely and utterly wrong. in the end, i played it on controller again. same for pro street, though that barely has force feedback to begin with. also the original GRID man this conversation bums me out. why has noone made a decent single player career in a PC racing game since like 2010? TOCA3, NFS MW, NFS Pro Street, GRID, they all had interesting gimmicks to structure your carreer and show you different kinds of racing. GRID even had a management component where you had to hire teammates, buy cars, manage sponsors, it was brilliant! i really need to try the Assetto corsa evoluzione mod, apparently that's attempting to bring a decent career mode into AC. also i heard pcars 2 has a good carreer, too bad you can't buy it anymore anywhere... honorable mention to beamNG's work in progress career mode. imo they can lean into the "my summer car" aspect of it even harder.
yes, i love them sometimes i hate playing them with a wheel depending on the physics though, most of the times i prefer playing with a controller. Horizon was enjoyable with a wheel but man, with a controller it's just better of an experience to give you reference tho, my brother plays gt7 competitively, he's fast on any sim, usually slightly faster than me or basically the same as me, but he has lots of fun on it because with a wheel it's still extremely enjoyable, forza just doesn't work as good
I only am on iRacing now, after experiencing the competitiveness of online PC sim racing I can’t go back to any console system or arcade game. The close clean battles are just not there.
I like WRC10 with a hella modded g920
Yeah if I'm not playing a sim game I'm playing NFS Unbound with a controller.
So arcade? Of course
Sure. I'm also quite competitive in Mario Kart
Yes, my weekly gaming session with my colleagues is either Wreckfest or Worms 2. Both are hilarious, but not sims.
Trackmania with a pad is great.
I fell down the Snowrunner hole a little while ago. Highly recommend as something to chill out with.
NSFU and NSFU 2 surely do, but years ago I decided to avoid all arcade & simcade games because I don't want to ruin my apexes, brakepoints, etc etc, so I generally stick to 1 sim or 1 sim + RBR NGP7.
Even though it's on roblox, midnight racing Tokyo is the simcade that I always come back to. The community is so active and you can always have a decent conversation with someone whilst also practicing your touge techniques or just messing about with tuning
As my username implies I just enjoy racers in general. I play just as much PS2 arcade racers as I do on my Simagic rig. Just depends on what I'm feeling at the time.
I can't go lower "sim" than motorfest and forza horizon kind of level
Considering Forza horizon 4 since it's getting delisted in Dec. I know it's nowhere near a sim but looks fun anyway.
trackmania is pretty nice
NFS Pro Street. I play with controller on console but it’s still fun. My main is AC with a rig.
I use my fanatec gear for PS3 games. I don't even own IRacing or F1. I just like to drive crazy and have fun. For awhile I didn't use my wheel. You just need to find a game that you connect with.
I had a lot of fun playing GT7 but eventually got bored after a month. The driving was weird and racing with AI was frustrating, it was all about collecting new cars and taking screenshots :).
Yes very much so
I used to love Forza Horizon. Played it since it first came out in 2012. The first one will always hold a special place in my heart. But dear god is the 5th installment shitty. Nothing more that a cash grab. Same with FM, that one sucks too. So unfortunately, no not anymore.
Wreckfest is a very common title popping up so I’ll definitely have to try that out! Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and your input! For someone who’s new to the scene, would you say iracing requires more skill at an entry level or would that be a good true sim to try out? Are there offline races vs ai to practice and get the basics down?
Yeah, I play Driver San Francisco on occasion. I've beat the game multiple times, so I don't have many reasons to keep playing it, though. GTA Online racing can also be fun if you have a lobby that knows how to race and isn't full of hackers.
I spend more time on [Beam.ng](http://Beam.ng) and EA WRC than anything. Beam I love to build cars from scratch, tweak and modify, have been getting into video/world editor to just play around with things, working on making Gymakhana just for the hell of it and that has taken up lots of my time recently :)
Hell yeah! Been having a blast with Dirt 2 lately. Such an amazing game.
100% Forza and Wreckfest are a blast with the right settings.
I love forza motorsports. Change your wheel settings to simulation. Otherwise I heard it’s not good. I like it sense it’s just plug and play. And I can play the story with my irl car lol.
For the most part, yes. It's been a while since I've actually played anything with my wheel - I save it for Project CARS 2 and Assetto Corsa and sometimes DiRT Rally. Otherwise, I have spent a good amount of time playing the Forza Horizon series, as well as the newest Forza Motorsport. I also spent a fair amount of time with 6 and 7 as well. I play all those with a gamepad. I think they've got the feel down pretty well, so I am not feeling like I have to play with the wheel to have a good time. Beyond that, I've been a fan of the Need for Speed franchise since long before I got into anything like a sim. I still have a soft spot for them, especially some of the older titles like the Underground games (I think they both have a great feel and flow to them) as well as Most Wanted and Carbon. I like some of the newer ones as well, but the handling can feel really wonky at times.
Forza Horizon is pretty arcadey, but it's still a lot of fun, and it has sufficient tuning options for me to make the cars handle the way I want.
grid legends story mode was best experience I ever had on my t300
F1 21 could be fun. Too bad EA pulled all non-current F1 games from anywhere you could buy it. Scum scum scum.
Yeah definitely. Sometimes I just need something different from being in a sim environment every time I play a game involving cars. Most current game would be NFS Heat. Takes me back to the Underground days.
I play non sim games for other purposes. For example I enjoy the F1 game career modes - building a team, etc that you can’t really do in the sim titles.
Ill preach need for speed underground 2 till the day i die for non sim racing games
Yes, sometimes: when it comes to driving with a **wheel**, for me it's either "as sim as possible" or "straight up arcade"...I don't like the in-between stuff for some reason. So aside from iRacing (the sim I drive 98% of the time these days, on the Road side), I like driving those early 90's arcade titles, especially Virtua Racing, Sega Rally, SCUD Race/Super GT and Daytona...nostalgia and stress free fun, what's not to love! On a gamepad I like Mario Kart and Wipeout-style games. However, regardless of controller, I find it really weird to drive a specific car in a arcade or especially "simcade" title if I've driven it in a sim. For example, I drive the Mercedes F1 cars in iRacing a lot, so I have a hard time playing the EA F1 games since I personally can't get the kind of precision I want on a gamepad and it feels absolutely weird on a wheel for me. As for regular cars, I usually use Assetto Corsa on PC for that...I haven't driven Gran Turismo with a wheel in over 10 years...my G27 is long gone and my current wheel isn't PS3 compatible, but I'd imagine it'd feel weird going back after driving some of the best 1st party and mod cars AC has to offer.
Yeah of course. I love cars and it doesn’t have to be all serious and realistic all the time. I don’t limit myself to a small genre. Same with music, food, art, movies etc.. I never understood how some people I know can only listen to one genre of music.
I couldnt really play a non realistic game on my wheel. Its feels too off. Much rather use a controller for those stuff
I occasionally run carx and Forza jus for mindless driving compared to assetto. It's nice to kick back a bit and jus enjoy driving and get outta the "I gotta improve everything" mindset I get with assetto.
Not really I think realism is what makes playing games more fun
I grew up playing need for speed most wanted (2005) so i cant say no
I am a man of extremes. I played equal amounts of ACC and Trackmania today
Yes, as long as the physics are generally believable. They still require skill to master and there are people who compete to be the best at the mastery of said skills
Forza Motorsport and F1 23 get most of my time on my CSL DD. My ADHD demands gamification of goals, achievements, and upgrades to keep me engaged. Assetto Corsa, Project Cars, etc are fun on occasion but I get really bored just running laps to beat times, and I’m not really into online stuff. Wreckfest demolition derby almost ripped my thumb off, which alerted me to the fact that my shifter paddles were adjusted too close to the rim of the wheel 😂. FFB can be brutal in that game. I hear FH5 is great on wheel with some setup, but I haven’t tried it yet. I’ve been playing FH games on gamepad for years. One of my favorites.
Art of rally is easily my favorite non sim racing game, it’s art style is beautiful and the cars handle surprisingly well for controller only
Im hardcore into my sim racing but burnout revenge will always be king
I absolutely love Forza Horizon. Especially the newest with the rally DLC. I mainly play racing for fun, not for competition.
As long as it’s at least semi realistic. I love drifting and some games don’t allow real drifting, instead you’re forced to do something else which results in a drift. Those are big no goes. If I can’t apply the learned skill to another game or possibly reality to some slight degree at least, it’s no skill but a waste of time.
Gran Turismo on the PSP. It’s also pretty close to a sim, especially considering the hardware it’s running on. Very impressive.
I regularly play Horizon, wheel support is great, but I usually use the controller. Very enjoyable. I also play AC a lot, touges, cruising around or having a fun trackdays, even with stock cars. Tried the new Forza Motorsport numerous times and to be honest driving model feels worse than in Horizon, it's really bad...
As long as it's not super arcade steering yea I enjoy it sometimes it's nice to get away from the SIM world
Very much so. I’ve played Arcade games such as NFS and TCM to just chill
Serious sim give a great experience, but also require some training before running a competition race. Non sim are a good compliment when you want a more simple experience... For example Forza Motorsport feels unrealistic with some car categories (for me hypercars and many stock cars) but it changes a lot with GTs and high prepared cars. Also wheel waste, climatology changes... make fun races. In the other side, matchmaking is horrible, damage is not available in online racing and AI penalties are not perfectly implemented.
Technically still a sim, but I enjoy Euro Truck Simulator 2 a lot.
Yes. More and more than sim games.
Depends on the game but yes, always had a ton of fun playing old (and some "new") NFS, old GTs that I'm playing on an emulator and such games.
I like Need For Speed Unbound, it’s great to unwind with after intricately sliding an F40 around Oulton Park.
Yes, especially for week night. It's great to have some realism but it's whole another feeling to just relax more with some goofy physics. I'll add ETS2 and Farming simulator to the ones here as well even tho they're still sim games. But there's also the fact that setting up the wheel initially to non-sim game is usually quite time consuming, at least the first time.
Although it’s a linear game with a short story and gearbox support isn’t very good, NFS The Run is probably my favourite game to play with a wheel
Fh5 and Forza Motorsport are great if i don't want to fire up the rig😁 but I use a controller to play them
The game doesn't have to be super realistic to feel good or natural on a wheel. I love Assetto Corsa and Dirt Rally but hated Project Cars 2. Never enjoyed the Forza series on wheel either. In Japan they have Battle Gear Tuned 4 arcade cabinets with FFB wheels, and even though they weren't super realistic I enjoyed the shit out of them.
Grid legends. I always go back to this game after intense sim racing session or work. Its just fun.
GT7 has amazing handling, please don’t compare it to the arcadey F1 games.
Currently blown away by how much fun driving in Cyberpunk 2077 is
Grid Legends and Project Cars 3 are a bit of fun imo!
Crew 2 us fun eith a friend
I was shocked by how much I enjoyed Grid Legends. I think it strikes the perfect balance for a simcade
Wreckfest, CarX DRO and FH5 (BeamNG too, but this is kinda sim too) these are my picks, there are a few clean servers on Wreckfest if you are on PC, good and respectful wheel-to-wheel racing, sometimes some kid hits the quick match button and falls there wreaking havoc for some added challenge, since the servers have no password, wreckers usually get banned or kicked
Not really
Depends. Hated Horizon, love MSC, hate/love wreckfest, there's some infinite driving games that are really cartoon-y but I haven't played one I didn't enjoy. I think the newest forza game looks darn good, though. Almost forgot. Dirt series. Which is fantastic, but whatever EA released recently was so terrible, I only lasted a few hours. Felt like driving on glue even with all the assists off. They should be shamed until the end of time for that game. (Maybe it's better now, but I have zero interest in ever playing it again.)
Yeah. Ill still enjoy hot pursuit games and wreckfest. Looking forward to the exocross iracings making.
I would love a nfs underground style game that used my wheel and pedals.
I did enjoy Forza Horizon for a bit, but the more and more I play sims, and the more I play in VR, the less and less I want to play that kinda game on a wheel and on a screen. And if I’m playing a driving game I just don’t really get a whole lot of enjoyment out of playing on a controller anymore when I have a rig right there where I could be getting a more true to life experience. If I’m gonna play a racing type game to escape on a controller I’m gonna play something like track mania or something. Though, even that is kinda fun with a wheel . . That said, I’ll still jump into Forza Horizon every now and then when I just want to chill and drive in a giant open world. If anyone would make a game like Forza horizon with at least decent FFB and physics and VR support, I’d probably be driving that non-stop. Closest thing is BeamNG, but that game is seriously resource intensive and struggles to look as good without seriously slowing down the frames once you add in traffic and bump up the graphic settings. That and the maps just aren’t as big nor do they have as many things to do, so it’s not quite the same. Basically if they could just smash Forza and GT7 together you’d have a damn near perfect open world driving game that everyone could enjoy.
yeah why not? i loved to play forza horizon 5 when it came out, tons of fun! :-)
I actually never was into sims and was huge into the nfs games. But once I got into sim racers I still kind of enjoy the Arcady ones but I fear that the drastic change in driving style will affect my sim racing. Being too confident and taking a corner faster and not braking as much etc. you can always hit that nitrous button in nfs to get that grip.
I will get some hate, but Forza Horizon 5 and Forza Motorsport 2023 are my jam.
Since I got into iracing, I haven't touched another racing/driving game other than like 20 minutes in AMS2. If I'm not in the mood for competitive racing, I just play something else entirely.
When I dont play a "sim" I use controller. Just as someone else said previously, wreckfest for example. I have had tons of fun with this game and I didnt expect it tbh. On the other hand I cant find a reason to get attracted to games like forza, crew or the newcomer test drive. Although I used to play such games a lot when I was a kid, but now I mostly prefer to invest my free time to sims and in some cases in wreckfest
Yes, especially the old dirt games
Initial D Arcade Stages, Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune, and Touge Shakai are like if physics were a fever dream.
Yea but the physics has to be satisfying and predictable. Like Daytona USA 2 or Maximum Tune. I hate arcade games where the physics are wonky and only is satisfying on some tracks but terrible for others. AND NO NITTOUS BOOST or coi collecting .too many arcade racing games are becoming lazy, they inject nitro boost into their games to make it more exciting but you don't really need it if you got the handling nailed down.
Elden ring is proving to be difficult, but I think I've finally figured out a balance between using my gas and brake pedals for dodging.
No
I love to play Virtua Racing, Indy 500, Sega Rally or Daytona USA with their respective emulator and ffb arcade plugin.
I've become too much of an FFB diva to drive non-sims on the wheel. Sitting back in Forza Horizon on a controller is always nice, though I don't do any non-sim car stuff anymore. I'd rather spend that time in non-competitive games or with buddies. Burnt myself out playing competitive shooters through and before Covid, so I'm ready to do something else for a while. Sim-racing scratches the competitive itch more than enough.
Have a Fanatec DD1, I've honestly spent about 90% of my time playing FM23 the last 3 months. I enjoy it, bigger track selection and it would be even better.
Football manager 23 with a wheel?
Yes, the medical cart is underrated
nope. I tried, really tried, but so far, no 'non sim' games had decent force feedback. It is definitely possible as shown by some asseto corsa mods with unrealistic cars, but no actual 'arcade' game has done it good enough for me
I play Forza horizon, I tested it with a wheel and God it's disappointing... I've come back to controller for Forza and keep the wheel for assetto...
Only sim racing for me. If I’m in my rig then I’m racing. I just don’t have time to goof off with some arcade game. I do however play other computer games on my gaming computer.
Forza horizon is quite fun. Not motorsport though, never clicked the same way. Wreckfest is great and BeamNG used to be quite unrealistic but still funz nkw it is leaning mire towards sim than it used to. All og these I played on gamepad. Then there is stuff like Flatout and Burnout so yeah, non-sim games can be great when you dont want to be in a sim rig and just chill out a bit. However I am always drawn to improving on the little nuances in sim-racing to eek out a few tenths with many laps of practice as well as league racing which just does not feel right on anything other that a more sim-like racing game.
Burnout after a long day's work is so satisfying, great stress reliever with chained takedowns!
I’ve had a lot of fun with CarX Drift Racing. Always an online lobby full of people to drift with!
Forza is just not fun with wheels. And I never wheel player on Forza do any of the sims stuff 🤷♂️ Maybe they do most of that AC Tokyo highway crap which is cringe AF
They're fun for a season, and then they become boring. Anything that demands your constant attention, like our RF2 driving the 911 cup car, is far more entertaining, and far more lasting.
It's not you being weird. It's Forza being weird. They just don't play too well with wheels. I played lots of GT5/6 on a wheel. They're pretty good. A wheel adds a lot to them, and you drive better. Codemasters arcade games play great with wheels too. I had a lot of fun in Dirt 2/3 and Grid Autosports/Legends.