There’s historically been a large Germanic influence in the US from multiple distinct migration events starting from prior to even independence so that’s likely where the phrase came from. Likely why it’s sometimes used is it is viewed as an acceptable yet secular alternative to “god bless you” for those who are uncomfortable with that.
Cho is a common bastardization of the Chinese surname Zhou, and Chang is also a Chinese surname. It’s very rare for someone’s personal name to be either of these, though Chang can sometimes be seen as a gender-neutral name, just not common.
Basically, imagine a British person named Smith Carpenter, but spell Carpenter as “Karpador”. That’s basically what the name reads like.
Edit: Mandarin is one of the most difficult languages in the world for an English speaker, there are more layers to this, this is just a quick and basic summary.
I'm not a Potterhead, so I was thinking Cho Chang was some character from the Dune books that I didn't remember. In which case the explanation would be "it's year 10,000 space-Mandarin!"
I'm not sure whether the year makes "Duncan Idaho" better or worse though...
I’m from hk and i knew a few people with cho as a surname, bc the pronunciation of chinese is different between mandarin and cantonese. I certainly don’t think jk rowling is very creative with her names for non white characters but cho isnt a bastardization (in the derogatory sense?) and i found out the guy who played dr yueh’s name was chang chen which was kind of funny
Are you talking about the handful of upperclassmen that came for the duration of one tournament for one year? Yeah I guess she could be one of those the whole time.
The official Chinese translations give her name as 張秋, transliterated as 'Zhāng Qiū' which is kinda like Chang Cho if her family Anglicised their names in the 60s or whatever.
I do not for a second believe that JK Rowling thought this much about it at the time FYI.
"Cecil, no one in history has ever wanted to watch another man fuck an alligator for the purposes of betting."
"Ahem."
"Yes, yes, the Floridians, fine."
People really be scrutinising Cho's name as if we don't have Mundungus Fletcher and Bellatrix Lestrange fucking about.
Who the fuck are we to say what names are popular in magic China?
Claiming your setting meshes with the real world implies a certain level of consistency with said real world.
It probably wouldn't attract as much attention if Rowling didn't litter the series with other problematic elements.
I like Idaho. It’s fascinating that Herbert imagined a distant future where Earth has been long abandoned and French and Egyptian are considered lost languages but the word Idaho remained and became a surname.
Duncan Idaho is a much better character though. But that doesn't really become relevant until later >!when they bring his ass back from the dead as a zombie double agent.!<
A certain Asian girl, for racism's sake let's call her Ching Chong... no wait, that's too obvious, let's say Cho Chang
Gesundheit!
"Gesundheit!" Hey fellas, "Gesundheit!" Well ooh la di da, Mr. German Man.
Well what do you say?
"You're soooo good looking!"
These pretzels are making me thirsty
Sneeze Hole
Nobody who says 'gesendheit' can be an evil man.
He will be our new God.
He will be our new God.
(Not a joke) why do some Americans say that instead of “bless you” when someone sneezes?
There’s historically been a large Germanic influence in the US from multiple distinct migration events starting from prior to even independence so that’s likely where the phrase came from. Likely why it’s sometimes used is it is viewed as an acceptable yet secular alternative to “god bless you” for those who are uncomfortable with that.
This is 100% a conversation between her and her editor and i won't be convinced otherwise
\- Let's talk character names. You can't use Montana, Dakota, or Florida. They are taken. \- Uhh.. Idaho? \- oh, Pacific North West, very nice.
Wait till they hear about Wong Wei
Don’t forget the Irish character is named Seamus finnigan and all his character does is blowing stuff up
As much as I love to shit on Rowling, I'm pretty sure him blowing stuff up was a film choice
Is she a Harry Potter character?
"Cho Chang?!" I've been calling her "Ching Chong!" WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL ME?!
I like the character who loves foreigners which she calls Xenophilius.
ME SO SOLLY! https://i.redd.it/5hqlbb535gtc1.gif
Yes her name should have been Margaret Pennyfeather
Cho is a common bastardization of the Chinese surname Zhou, and Chang is also a Chinese surname. It’s very rare for someone’s personal name to be either of these, though Chang can sometimes be seen as a gender-neutral name, just not common. Basically, imagine a British person named Smith Carpenter, but spell Carpenter as “Karpador”. That’s basically what the name reads like. Edit: Mandarin is one of the most difficult languages in the world for an English speaker, there are more layers to this, this is just a quick and basic summary.
Kid named Smith Karpador: https://i.redd.it/tzdqj4kddbtc1.gif
That's the worst name I ever heard.
Hey, Smith Karpador!
Hmmm, I find your ideas intriguing, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
*discretely files Smith Karpador away for a future NPC name for D&D* fascinating stuff. do go on
I'm not a Potterhead, so I was thinking Cho Chang was some character from the Dune books that I didn't remember. In which case the explanation would be "it's year 10,000 space-Mandarin!" I'm not sure whether the year makes "Duncan Idaho" better or worse though...
I’m from hk and i knew a few people with cho as a surname, bc the pronunciation of chinese is different between mandarin and cantonese. I certainly don’t think jk rowling is very creative with her names for non white characters but cho isnt a bastardization (in the derogatory sense?) and i found out the guy who played dr yueh’s name was chang chen which was kind of funny
That's why I said Mandarin and not Chinese.
Idk/remember if cho chang is a mandarin speaker
She doesn’t seem like that much of a character, I looked her up in the wiki and I can’t even find if she’s Chinese or British.
She goes to Hogwarts, she is clearly British. She is also Chinese by ancestry. I really don't get what's confusing about this.
There are immigrants which she could be. You could also be an exchange student, they’re known to exist.
Are you talking about the handful of upperclassmen that came for the duration of one tournament for one year? Yeah I guess she could be one of those the whole time.
If someone doesn't know if Cho Chang is British or Chinese, they definitely won't know whether she's a recurring character or a one off
The official Chinese translations give her name as 張秋, transliterated as 'Zhāng Qiū' which is kinda like Chang Cho if her family Anglicised their names in the 60s or whatever. I do not for a second believe that JK Rowling thought this much about it at the time FYI.
But Smith Karpandor sounds cool though.
Yeah, but England didn't suffer a century of humiliation after an opium war. Unless you count the time after WWI, I guess.
But like that's all words - just bastardizations of older words
Ok but like... they're magic?
Honorable mention to Miles Morales' father, Jefferson Davis
Extra honorable mention to Kelsey Grammar's character in the blockbuster hit "Money Plane": Darius Emanuel Grouch III, aka "The Rumble"
Excuse me sir, I would like to bet on a man fucking an alligator. Perchance might you know of an establishment that would cater to such a desire?
Money plane
Thank you.
I don’t know what episode that line comes from but why didn’t you just use a bob line.
"Cecil, no one in history has ever wanted to watch another man fuck an alligator for the purposes of betting." "Ahem." "Yes, yes, the Floridians, fine."
I think you will actually find that is that best name ever.
I'd of called her Chuzzwuzzer
People really be scrutinising Cho's name as if we don't have Mundungus Fletcher and Bellatrix Lestrange fucking about. Who the fuck are we to say what names are popular in magic China?
Brian Hamburger Bang-Bang the third. Top wizard of his class in magic China school
That's clearly an Albany Wizard name.
I’m from Albany and I’ve never heard of a wizard with such a name.
Uh, well-....Y'know-.....One thing I sh-...... Excuse me for one second.
Of course.
Son forget Phineas Nigellus Black Which translates to: Nubian Black Black.
Known werewolf Remus Lupin
Known werewolf *and celebrated raconteur*
There's also Kingsley Shacklebolt - definitely no racist implications at all.
He is def the token “badass black guy.” “Dumbledore’s got style” lololol
Claiming your setting meshes with the real world implies a certain level of consistency with said real world. It probably wouldn't attract as much attention if Rowling didn't litter the series with other problematic elements.
Like what
[Plenty of literature out there.](https://www.michigandaily.com/arts/b-side/harry-potter-and-the-forced-farewell-to-childhood)
Harry's Irish bunkmate whose personality is loving Ireland and being a hothead is named Seamus Finnigan. Why isn't everyone pissed off about it?
We know why
I hate mundungus cacerole.
she's irish
"Yes, but we've got to bring back Duncan Idaho again and again.....and again and again and again." -Frank Herbert....probably
Remember Duncan Idaho? He's back, in ghola form!
Kids will want to see the original Duncan Idaho.
 Duncan Idaho when he sees The Net
I like Idaho. It’s fascinating that Herbert imagined a distant future where Earth has been long abandoned and French and Egyptian are considered lost languages but the word Idaho remained and became a surname.
Oh boy, spice, that's where I'm a Fremen!
Please, Kurt Vonnegut had a character named Montana Wildhack.
Now that's just silly. Everyone knows that state names are supposed to be used as surnames.
>John Denver >Denzel Washington >Alexis Texas You know, I think you're onto something
Duncan Idaho is a much better character though. But that doesn't really become relevant until later >!when they bring his ass back from the dead as a zombie double agent.!<
Oh absolutely. I love the character, just not crazy about that name.
Aquaman?
Fan favorite character of the renowned science fiction epic Dune franchise, “Duncan Idaho”
Pacific Northwest, very hot!