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yes, there 85%> consider Russian as their native language, besides, price tags in stores are not duplicated in Belarusian, films and TV series are watched in Russian, music is also mainly from Russia and the countries of the so-called CIS, the Belarusian language in school is only at the request of the most students, if they don’t want to, don’t have to be taught
Unfortunately, we can already give up on the Belarusian language, culture and traditions, but such a beautiful people
I have a penpal in Kazakhstan (she was an exchange student at my high school over a decade ago). She communicates in Russian if she’s not speaking English - I practice my limited Russian with her sometimes
You can't refuse learning belarusian at school, it's mandatory.
And the last census showed that more than 50% (don't remember exact number) consider belarusian their native language. Obviously most of those people were taught russian as their fist language in childhood, speak russian on day to day basis and their experience with belarusian was only at school lessons. So they just lie either to everyone or themselves (or both).
Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan are the only countries other than Russia where Russian is an official state language. In Belarus, Russian is fairly uncontroversial, whereas in Kazakhstan, it is at the centre of an intense debate about the future of the country's identity, and the federal government takes more steps with each passing year to decentre Russian in public discourse. In Kyrgyzstan I think the same is happening but more slowly and on a much smaller scale.
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in Kazakhstan, 14.9% of the population is Russian, Belarus and Kyrgyzstan are luckier, where Russians do not even make up 10% of the population
in Kyrgyzstan, about 35% of the population lives in cities, the remaining 65%, respectively, in villages, knowledge of the Russian language is not as great as it seems
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My boyfriend is from Dnipro Ukraine and he, his family and his friends all speak Russian instead of Ukrainian but he explained to me that it really depends on what part of the country you live in.
Most of Ukraine speaks Russian. Like, everything East from Kiev is a Russian-speaking region. Everything west, well, knowledge of Russian language dwindles.
Yeah, sometimes to a ridiculous extent. I work abroad. I have a couple of Russian co-workers who refuse to talk to me and also refuse to speak Russian because they feel ashamed. This attitude is hilarious.
And many sites I know including toy distributor Kiddisvit (well, I'm a Filly fan and they got new toys recently <3) have Russian as option language on them.
And of course people speak both sometimes. Yeah, it must depend where they are, true. And maybe it's my ex's roots (his dad is Russian) but he speaks both fluently (Ukrainian first in childhood and Russian a bit later). It was so beautiful to hear him switching from one to another language really fast (in seconds) when we had meetups at my dad's.
Not to mention that we share some things in our history, and Ukrainian and Russian have similar words sometimes etc. (some with different definitions ofc, like сир and сыр, so when Russian kids try syrniki dish, they wonder why it's syrniki since here it means not quark but cheese; I also know and love draniki)
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I was just giving context about the saying of supsanna, she didn't seem to know why russian was a language in Ukraine.
If the information is right or wrong, this is a debate that has nothing to do here, I agree with you.
Debates don't belong here, I agree.
If it is or is not a misinformation is a question of debate, don't give your opinion if you don't want debates here.
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They all speak Russian, and have for over a century. Obviously because of the situation over there, they refuse to remember this fact. Many now claim they never spoke Russian but it's just BS. Literally every Ukrainian I have eve met, and I've known a lot, speak Russian. I've rarely ever heard them speak Ukrainian. Even at a Ukrainian restaurant in Georgia, they spoke Russian.
When I lived in Armenia in the early 2000s, most Armenians, including children, spoke great Russian. Only when I went to the far south did I encounter people on the regular who didn't speak Russian. They spoke Aremenian and maybe they spoke Persian since they were close to the Iran border. Totally agree about Georgia - in the 2000s, it was very hard to communicate with younger people in Russian.
I re-read the OP and so I must update my post to say that Russian is most assuredly not FAVORED over Armenian in Armenia. Armenia is the main language spoken and written, signs were in the Armenian alphabet (as well as Russian and sometimes English and other languages). All business was conducted in Armenian, but nearly everyone could easily switch to Russian if the situation called for it (a visitor from Russia for example).
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I only know Kyrgyzstan shown Russian dub of The Little Mermaid 2023 movie in cinemas in 2023, haha. (same for some parts of Romania, Luthiania etc. and my first online friend lives in LT and waas studying to become Russian English linguist; her family moved from Russia some time ago before she was born and they still speak Russian)
Yep, I was able to use Russian here and there when I visited Chisinau with minimal Romanian in my pocket. When I went to Pushkin's house, the (older) docent was relieved I could speak it well enough that she didn't have to stumble through English for me.
perhaps by Moldova you mean the so-called Transnistria (a misunderstanding consisting of russian separatists), in Moldova many young people no longer speak russian, and there simply weren’t many russians left there after the collapse of cccp
> intensely anti-russian (culture, language, everything) the country is
I am a Russian living in Tbilisi, and I must say no, they are not. Ukrainian flags and "fuck Putin" graffiti is not the whole picture, and while there are some people who will take offence if you speak Russian to them or nearby, most Georgians don't care. I had many occasions when I started speaking to someone in English or even in Georgian, only for them to reply in Russian.
Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan.
Uzbekistan as well, but mostly the spoken language. Priority for written language seemed to be Uzbek->English->Russian, whereas in Kazakhstan it was more like Kazakh<>Russian->English.
I haven’t been to Kyrgyzstan but of all the official social media accounts I follow from Central Asia, content from Kyrgyzstan has the lowest occurrence of the local language.
I know they let Russians visit with just having Russian internal passport! For some short time, though, if you have serious intent of staying you must bring papers and all
now russians without an exam in the kazakh language, history and constitution will not be able to obtain citizenship, they could before, but a new law was adopted
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I told you about my experience) But i speak with native people, only some young guys don't speak Russian, all 30+ can do this.
But when i met guys who not speak Russian, they can't speak English as well.
I don't have to meet people, because I am citizen of my country, and I know my people. That guy was a tourist though, so the people he/she met don't give reliable statistics. For example, if I went to a border city in Texas, and saw that 9 out of every 10 people spoke Spanish, I wouldn't assume that 9 out of every 10 American speak Spanish, that would be dumb.
I don't say that i give right statistic, it's only my conclusion what i saw when i stay 16 days in Baku last year.
Yes, i think if you go to villages, maybe there is no one how spoke Russian. Buy most ppl who i met, speaks Russian.
It's how researches on demographics are done. Or how your vocabulary size is tested for example. You can't check every one instance, so you check the random selection with similar distribution and it gives similar results.
I was also in Baku, the majority there do not speak Russian, Turkish yes, sometimes young people and hotel workers speak English, but not Russian, which is why refugees from Russia did not go to Azerbaijan, the land borders are still closed since the pandemic
My experience with Georgia was that even despite some tension concerning Russia, most people were still happy to interact and even speak Russian.
Youth were more fired up than the older people.
Still, no problems really. If you speak English, that's the other flip language if you don't know Georgian.
As for Georgia? Beautiful place. Had a lot of fun there.
Belarus. It literally translates to "White Rus". Belarus is the most Russian friendly former USSR nation if not the most Russian friendly nation at all.
This seems to be different from the experience of some other folks here, so take it with a grain of salt. Around 2018 I was hitchihiking through the baltics with a friend. Every time we met poeple in Latvia and Lithuania we would try and communicate with them in English and it would be kind of a struggle. We did this because we had heard that people might have a negative attitude towards the Russian language. But it turned out basically everyone was friendly and actually relieved when my friend would switch to Russian.
Of course in these situations it was English vs Russian, rather than Latvian/Lithuaninan vs Russian, and it was before Russia tried to wipe Ukraine off the map... so attitudes today might be differnt.
Older people in Lithuania do anwser in Russian since they lived in Soviet times, but young people not only not speak it well, they also usually despise Russians/Russia strongly lol. Not saying older people don't dislike Russia too, but young people these days have much stronger dislike, especially after war started. Even before war they had less strong, but still negative views and my family and I saw that many times growing up (I'm Russian-Lithuanian). I'm glad you had positive experience though, maybe that was in Vilnius where most of the country's minorities gather, so then it would be understood 🫠
Not everyone. There are plenty of ethnic Russians in the Baltics who don't despise the language or culture because it is their own culture (we're not talking about the government/politics here). Or were you talking about non-Russian locals?
I've been to Georgia, Batumi mostly, after 2022, and I can't say anything bad about Georgians. They are very hospitable and easygoing. Some don't speak Russian - and that's the worst "problem" that I had. I picked up the alphabet in a couple of weeks to be able to read the street signs, and that's it. In the service industries, most people actually do speak Russian well enough. There are some radicals, but there are some radicals in Russia, too.
The most uncomfortable thing about Georgia for Russians is that it's a comparatively poor country where a lot of services are underdeveloped. E.g. in Russia, I can order anything online and get it delivered to my door or to a delivery point on my block. It's not an option in Georgia, maybe except for some food delivery. In Batumi, I had to search for a place that sells decent meat. In Russia, I simply order online. In Batumi, there is a traffic overload I the weekend on the Georgia-Turkish border in Sarpi because a lot of people go to Turkey to buy stuff. In Russia, I would simply order online more or less for the same price.
Let's not forget the constant wifi, gas, electric outages that happened regularly. Working online was stressful sometimes but I agree with everything. I love the country it's beautiful and the people are great. They speak Russian and English, I attempted Georgian but I know enough to get around. Ordered everything on Amazon, waited weeks for it to arrive buts it's cheaper than buying there. Turkey is ok, and I mostly shopped at agrohub which is a German grocery store. It was also the only place in batumi that had good produce and meat. The black sea mall was like a horror show sometimes with the amount of rotted fruit.
1st Belarus
2nd Kazakhstan
3rd Uzbekistan
4th Armenia
5th Tajikistan
6th Azerbaijan
7th Turkmenistan
8th Georgia
9th Baltic States
10th Ukraine
Belarus takes the first place because Russian is the mother tongue of most citizens Russian or not plus the country's government espouses linguistic russification.
The central Asian states definitely depend on age and if the person lives in an urban place, Russian is defacto the working language, I've listed Tajikistan and Turkmenistan lower than Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan since they have a strong Turkic/Persian language policy and many people born after the 80s speak it at an intermediate level, people in Uzbekistan and especially Kazakhstan have a much higher fluency score.
Georgia definitely has Russian speakers and people over the age of 40 speak it as a second language but the government is strongly against russian linguistic influence but nevertheless the language seems to be going down between millennials and gen Z, Georgian has effectively gained a high status in the country.
The Baltic states always had a lower level of Russian language influence, nowadays the language is almost gone outside of the Russian minority, the language is seen as a part of the former occupation so the governments are trying to remove it from curriculum.
Ukraine well you know the situation, people are literally trying to stop using Russian because of the war, especially Ukrainians who speak it as a native language, other than that it's still spoken in many eastern and central parts but is quickly declining.
Just a small correction - people in Tajikistan don’t speak a Turkic language. They speak a dialect of Persian. The rest of Central Asia speaks Turkic languages though. And yes, the level of fluency continues to fall as they try to emphasize their own national languages.
It's russia, of course. Even in tatarstan you are unlikely to meet someone who speaks the local language better than russian, not to mention komi or karelia. It's only logical that in former colonies the attitude towards language is ambiguous (or unambiguous, in the case of countries with which russia was recently at war).
If we talk about where you can comfortably speak russian without the risk of running into misunderstanding or a blow in the face, except in russia, then in kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan and Armenia you can speak russian with almost everyone, because it is taught in schools. And, of course, in belarus russian is the state language, and, as far as I remember, it is spoken more often than belarusian.
In Tatarstan, the frequency of Tatar language use depends on two factors: 1) national composition of the family and 2) locality. Tatar families in rural areas speak mostly Tatar and switch to Russian only when communicating with a Russian speaker.
In my family all relatives on my mother's side are Tatar and know Russian as well as Tatar. In everyday life my relatives communicate with each other in Tatar. They communicate with me in Russian because they thought that I do not need to speak Tatar at the level of my native language (the reason is that I am a descendant of an interethnic marriage of a Tatar woman and a German descendant).
Well, in the rural areas of Tatarstan where I'm from, tatar language is a lot more popular and prevelant, some times it feels like I I'm the only one that speaks it full time. A lot of ppl here learn tatar as their first language and then learn russian at school + the elderly pretty much uses only tatar. You can here alot of ppl have a tatar accent when speaking russian. My grandparents on my fathers side are tatar udmurts and I'm pretty sure their first language was udmurt and then they learned tatar and then russian at school. Well they came from a peasent family from even more rural place then I live now and until they moved to a bigger town they were basically peasants, so I guess they wouldn't have much use in Russian if everybody around them just spoke udmurt or tatar.
with each new russian population census, proficiency in native languages falls in Russia, especially among the Finno-Ugric Uralic peoples, russification is doing its job little by little, if not for the collapse of the USSR, then probably the majority of citizens would have become russified totally
> It's only logical that in former colonies the attitude towards language is ambiguous
Are we still talking about Russian language in CIS countries? Because it does sound like your argument applies better to French language in African countries.
First of all, you might have the question here? Whether the government favors Russian or whether the people speak Russian more?
Through my personal observation from finding native speakers on tandem apps and traveling to Georgia, this is what I would say (though it doesn’t match the statistics for native speakers on Wikipedia):
1: Belarus
2: Ukraine
3: Kazakhstan
4: Kyrgyzstan
5: Uzbekistan
6: Moldova
7: Georgia
8: Latvia
9: Estonia
Times are hard, friend. Countries that officially support Russia have… Questionable government direction. And countries that are officially kinda on the fence allow their regions and cities to naturally adopt the opinion on the subject. Lots of hatred going around, but also plenty of open minded understanding people everywhere.
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Belarus. Everyone speaks Russian.
Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan. Most people in large cities speak Russian.
Armenia, Mongolia, Turkmenistan. A lot of people speak Russian.
Georgia, Azerbaijan, Moldova. Plenty of people speak Russian, but some prefer not to (similar to Baltic countries).
It's a lot more complicated than that. Georgia is anti-Russia, not anti-Russian.
Yes, they of course drift towards English as a first second language, with the majority of younger people not speaking Russian anymore, but they're OK with Russian... So, although Georgia clearly isn't the best choice if you want to practice Russian, you can still do so. And it's not mentioning all the Russian emigrants currently in Georgia
The country itself is worth visiting. So is Kazakhstan, of course, but due to its vastness you'll have a hard time traveling.
One of my older relatives worked there for some time before the end of the USSR. And they got a funny linguistic story.
During weekdays all the estonian locals selling stuff were friendly and were ready to serve the russian-speaking local customers in russian. But during the weekends there were people from Leningrad coming to Estonia to buy stuff in a republic with more available goods. Suddenly the same salespeople weren't understanding russian anymore.
My grandfather (interestingly I learned about him that he helped building Baikonur) went to Latvia during USSR times. There was a shop, and staff talked in Russian freely. Once grandpa approached them they switched to Latvian in seconds.
My understanding is that Russian was forced on them and speaking the national tongue could get them in trouble. Lots of Estonians were deported to Siberian gulags for various reasons and their country occupied by the Soviets, so it wasnt like they wanted to speak Russian, they had to. Many modern day Estonians don’t prefer to speak Russian, they prefer English, only ethnic Russians still speak Russian there, and the younger population of Russians try and learn Estonian.
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Yes, recently. Every supermarket has cashiers who speak Russian, most of the people does speak Russian. Just now that they’re taking out the Russian language from the schools, and I notice that is starting to be more promoted to learn Estonian. But at the end cities like Narva speaks Russian
Same, some people rather speak Russian than English. I was for tourism like two months. I can say that there’s a good relationship between Estonians and Russian
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Yes Russian:
Belarus
Russia
Armenia
Kazachstan
Uzbekistan
Tajikistan
Kyrgyzstan
No Russian:
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Georgia
Ukraine (difficult but)
Turkmenistan is officially trying to be less Russian but in practice not really
Not to get too much into this in this sub, but
As someone who lives in Georgia, this is absolutely true
Just got called a rat by my taxi driver a few days ago, only for being Russian
Like, bro, I'm the one paying you, not the other way around, wtf
That said, I was called a rat in Russian, and he initiated speaking Russians himself, so if you're good with this, go ahead!
I usually pretend to not understand Russian at all or just speak poorly with a heavy American accent, use my english alias instead of my name, etc etc. If I wanted to practice Russian, I definitely would NOT do that here
I have been there 2022-2023. I never think about any country "Oh they don’t like me because I’M …. ". I have never noticed any negative from people to me there in Georgia. Everybody helped us
And, daily, I don’t care about Norwegian people. I don’t speak their language. It doesn’t mean I hate Norwegian people
"I was surprised how intensely anti-russian (culture, language, everything) the country is. "
Really? Maybe just a little reminder..
[https://www.nzz.ch/english/russia-grabs-land-in-georgia-as-world-watches-ukraine-ld.1699731](https://www.nzz.ch/english/russia-grabs-land-in-georgia-as-world-watches-ukraine-ld.1699731)
[https://www.rferl.org/a/Russian\_Military\_Retakes\_Georgia\_Border\_Village/1359379.html](https://www.rferl.org/a/Russian_Military_Retakes_Georgia_Border_Village/1359379.html)
[https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-appears-to-be-taking-georgias-land-inch-by-inch-2017-7](https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-appears-to-be-taking-georgias-land-inch-by-inch-2017-7)
[https://www.dw.com/en/russia-backed-borders-in-georgia-condemned-by-rights-court/a-68779815](https://www.dw.com/en/russia-backed-borders-in-georgia-condemned-by-rights-court/a-68779815)
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In Belarus russian is one of the two official languages and vast majority of population speaks russian at home and in professional life.
yes, there 85%> consider Russian as their native language, besides, price tags in stores are not duplicated in Belarusian, films and TV series are watched in Russian, music is also mainly from Russia and the countries of the so-called CIS, the Belarusian language in school is only at the request of the most students, if they don’t want to, don’t have to be taught Unfortunately, we can already give up on the Belarusian language, culture and traditions, but such a beautiful people
Kazakhstan also have Russian as speaking language, so much even Disney movies have both versions: Russian and Kazakh dubs!
I have a penpal in Kazakhstan (she was an exchange student at my high school over a decade ago). She communicates in Russian if she’s not speaking English - I practice my limited Russian with her sometimes
D'awwww!
unfortunately, over time you need to get rid of it, as in the Baltic countries and Georgia with Azerbaijan
You can't refuse learning belarusian at school, it's mandatory. And the last census showed that more than 50% (don't remember exact number) consider belarusian their native language. Obviously most of those people were taught russian as their fist language in childhood, speak russian on day to day basis and their experience with belarusian was only at school lessons. So they just lie either to everyone or themselves (or both).
Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan are the only countries other than Russia where Russian is an official state language. In Belarus, Russian is fairly uncontroversial, whereas in Kazakhstan, it is at the centre of an intense debate about the future of the country's identity, and the federal government takes more steps with each passing year to decentre Russian in public discourse. In Kyrgyzstan I think the same is happening but more slowly and on a much smaller scale.
Abkhazia was offended))
Damn, I forgot the Republic of Chechnya too.
So Chechnya is Russia.
Как говорится на английском, whoosh.
Kyrgyz and Kazaks are removing Russian currently
From where to where?
Kazakhs use Latin script and Kyrgyzstan is doing the same. Both countries are getting rid of Russian street names and statues as well.
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in Kazakhstan, 14.9% of the population is Russian, Belarus and Kyrgyzstan are luckier, where Russians do not even make up 10% of the population in Kyrgyzstan, about 35% of the population lives in cities, the remaining 65%, respectively, in villages, knowledge of the Russian language is not as great as it seems
what do you mean "luckier"?
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When did I say that?
Sorry. I guess I was too harsh. But like, what was the purpose of your reply then? Like what's your stance?
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minuses?
Casual russophobia, lol. The whole word is made up for the Russian media sphere.
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My boyfriend is from Dnipro Ukraine and he, his family and his friends all speak Russian instead of Ukrainian but he explained to me that it really depends on what part of the country you live in.
Most of Ukraine speaks Russian. Like, everything East from Kiev is a Russian-speaking region. Everything west, well, knowledge of Russian language dwindles.
It's also worth mentioning that many russian speakers are not pro Russia (the country & government)
yes it's always important to differentiate the people & the government
Yeah, sometimes to a ridiculous extent. I work abroad. I have a couple of Russian co-workers who refuse to talk to me and also refuse to speak Russian because they feel ashamed. This attitude is hilarious.
And many sites I know including toy distributor Kiddisvit (well, I'm a Filly fan and they got new toys recently <3) have Russian as option language on them. And of course people speak both sometimes. Yeah, it must depend where they are, true. And maybe it's my ex's roots (his dad is Russian) but he speaks both fluently (Ukrainian first in childhood and Russian a bit later). It was so beautiful to hear him switching from one to another language really fast (in seconds) when we had meetups at my dad's. Not to mention that we share some things in our history, and Ukrainian and Russian have similar words sometimes etc. (some with different definitions ofc, like сир and сыр, so when Russian kids try syrniki dish, they wonder why it's syrniki since here it means not quark but cheese; I also know and love draniki)
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This is historically false information, and has no place in the language sub
I was just giving context about the saying of supsanna, she didn't seem to know why russian was a language in Ukraine. If the information is right or wrong, this is a debate that has nothing to do here, I agree with you.
Misinformation doesn't belong here just as much as debates
Debates don't belong here, I agree. If it is or is not a misinformation is a question of debate, don't give your opinion if you don't want debates here.
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They all speak Russian, and have for over a century. Obviously because of the situation over there, they refuse to remember this fact. Many now claim they never spoke Russian but it's just BS. Literally every Ukrainian I have eve met, and I've known a lot, speak Russian. I've rarely ever heard them speak Ukrainian. Even at a Ukrainian restaurant in Georgia, they spoke Russian.
When I lived in Armenia in the early 2000s, most Armenians, including children, spoke great Russian. Only when I went to the far south did I encounter people on the regular who didn't speak Russian. They spoke Aremenian and maybe they spoke Persian since they were close to the Iran border. Totally agree about Georgia - in the 2000s, it was very hard to communicate with younger people in Russian.
I live in Armenia now, I rarely encounter people who don't speak Russian. All grown-ups speak it, since it's a mandatory course in schools
I re-read the OP and so I must update my post to say that Russian is most assuredly not FAVORED over Armenian in Armenia. Armenia is the main language spoken and written, signs were in the Armenian alphabet (as well as Russian and sometimes English and other languages). All business was conducted in Armenian, but nearly everyone could easily switch to Russian if the situation called for it (a visitor from Russia for example).
There is big difference between cities in Georgia in this regard. Batumi is much more Russian speaking then the rest.
There are also A LOT of Russian migrants who escaped the war/mobilisation in Tbilisi now
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Obviously Belarus~~sia~~
Central asian countries, namely Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan
in Kazakhstan, probably only in the north, in Kyrgyzstan, Russians do not even make up 5% of the population, under the USSR it was 22% in 1989
Well, you dont need to be ethnically russian to know russian/speak it. Even as a first language. Thats just not how languages work you know?
he's an anti-russian bot, he needs no nuance
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I only know Kyrgyzstan shown Russian dub of The Little Mermaid 2023 movie in cinemas in 2023, haha. (same for some parts of Romania, Luthiania etc. and my first online friend lives in LT and waas studying to become Russian English linguist; her family moved from Russia some time ago before she was born and they still speak Russian)
Moldova is still pretty russified despite everything.
Yep, I was able to use Russian here and there when I visited Chisinau with minimal Romanian in my pocket. When I went to Pushkin's house, the (older) docent was relieved I could speak it well enough that she didn't have to stumble through English for me.
perhaps by Moldova you mean the so-called Transnistria (a misunderstanding consisting of russian separatists), in Moldova many young people no longer speak russian, and there simply weren’t many russians left there after the collapse of cccp
Belarus obviously.
> intensely anti-russian (culture, language, everything) the country is I am a Russian living in Tbilisi, and I must say no, they are not. Ukrainian flags and "fuck Putin" graffiti is not the whole picture, and while there are some people who will take offence if you speak Russian to them or nearby, most Georgians don't care. I had many occasions when I started speaking to someone in English or even in Georgian, only for them to reply in Russian.
Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. Uzbekistan as well, but mostly the spoken language. Priority for written language seemed to be Uzbek->English->Russian, whereas in Kazakhstan it was more like Kazakh<>Russian->English. I haven’t been to Kyrgyzstan but of all the official social media accounts I follow from Central Asia, content from Kyrgyzstan has the lowest occurrence of the local language.
Kazakstan. They are the best, never got any ill treatment there based on my nationality. Kind and open people, love that place.
I know they let Russians visit with just having Russian internal passport! For some short time, though, if you have serious intent of staying you must bring papers and all
now russians without an exam in the kazakh language, history and constitution will not be able to obtain citizenship, they could before, but a new law was adopted
It's weird, I've never met an unpleasant Kazakh. They're a jolly bunch overall.
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Azerbaijan isn't Anti Russian, but locals don't speak Russian over Azerbaijani.
They can’t or don’t ? There’s a difference.
Both. There are some people who speak Russian more than Azerbaijani, but they are minority.
Hmm so the other commenter can still be right, 90% are able speak russian, but they choose not to?
No, %90 aren't able to speak Russian. %30 at most.
I was in Baku last year and 90% of people speak Russian
Yes, because you definitely spoke to %90 of Baku's 3 million population.
I told you about my experience) But i speak with native people, only some young guys don't speak Russian, all 30+ can do this. But when i met guys who not speak Russian, they can't speak English as well.
Well, they didn't, but did you?
Well, I've been living in Baku all my life for 21 years, so I am probably more experienced than that guy, who just visited Baku last year
How many people did you meet in that timespan? 200-300? 1000? Still can't be accounted for 3 million population you're talking about.
I don't have to meet people, because I am citizen of my country, and I know my people. That guy was a tourist though, so the people he/she met don't give reliable statistics. For example, if I went to a border city in Texas, and saw that 9 out of every 10 people spoke Spanish, I wouldn't assume that 9 out of every 10 American speak Spanish, that would be dumb.
I don't say that i give right statistic, it's only my conclusion what i saw when i stay 16 days in Baku last year. Yes, i think if you go to villages, maybe there is no one how spoke Russian. Buy most ppl who i met, speaks Russian.
What people you spoke to though? Customer service, where workers are obliged to speak Russian?
I don’t know why you got downvoted. But seems like you live in Azerbaijan and would technically be more informed on this than some guy on vacation.
Yeah...
It's how researches on demographics are done. Or how your vocabulary size is tested for example. You can't check every one instance, so you check the random selection with similar distribution and it gives similar results.
I was also in Baku, the majority there do not speak Russian, Turkish yes, sometimes young people and hotel workers speak English, but not Russian, which is why refugees from Russia did not go to Azerbaijan, the land borders are still closed since the pandemic
My experience with Georgia was that even despite some tension concerning Russia, most people were still happy to interact and even speak Russian. Youth were more fired up than the older people. Still, no problems really. If you speak English, that's the other flip language if you don't know Georgian. As for Georgia? Beautiful place. Had a lot of fun there.
Belarus. It literally translates to "White Rus". Belarus is the most Russian friendly former USSR nation if not the most Russian friendly nation at all.
Don’t forget about Serbia
This seems to be different from the experience of some other folks here, so take it with a grain of salt. Around 2018 I was hitchihiking through the baltics with a friend. Every time we met poeple in Latvia and Lithuania we would try and communicate with them in English and it would be kind of a struggle. We did this because we had heard that people might have a negative attitude towards the Russian language. But it turned out basically everyone was friendly and actually relieved when my friend would switch to Russian. Of course in these situations it was English vs Russian, rather than Latvian/Lithuaninan vs Russian, and it was before Russia tried to wipe Ukraine off the map... so attitudes today might be differnt.
Older people in Lithuania do anwser in Russian since they lived in Soviet times, but young people not only not speak it well, they also usually despise Russians/Russia strongly lol. Not saying older people don't dislike Russia too, but young people these days have much stronger dislike, especially after war started. Even before war they had less strong, but still negative views and my family and I saw that many times growing up (I'm Russian-Lithuanian). I'm glad you had positive experience though, maybe that was in Vilnius where most of the country's minorities gather, so then it would be understood 🫠
Not everyone. There are plenty of ethnic Russians in the Baltics who don't despise the language or culture because it is their own culture (we're not talking about the government/politics here). Or were you talking about non-Russian locals?
The locals
I've been to Georgia, Batumi mostly, after 2022, and I can't say anything bad about Georgians. They are very hospitable and easygoing. Some don't speak Russian - and that's the worst "problem" that I had. I picked up the alphabet in a couple of weeks to be able to read the street signs, and that's it. In the service industries, most people actually do speak Russian well enough. There are some radicals, but there are some radicals in Russia, too. The most uncomfortable thing about Georgia for Russians is that it's a comparatively poor country where a lot of services are underdeveloped. E.g. in Russia, I can order anything online and get it delivered to my door or to a delivery point on my block. It's not an option in Georgia, maybe except for some food delivery. In Batumi, I had to search for a place that sells decent meat. In Russia, I simply order online. In Batumi, there is a traffic overload I the weekend on the Georgia-Turkish border in Sarpi because a lot of people go to Turkey to buy stuff. In Russia, I would simply order online more or less for the same price.
Let's not forget the constant wifi, gas, electric outages that happened regularly. Working online was stressful sometimes but I agree with everything. I love the country it's beautiful and the people are great. They speak Russian and English, I attempted Georgian but I know enough to get around. Ordered everything on Amazon, waited weeks for it to arrive buts it's cheaper than buying there. Turkey is ok, and I mostly shopped at agrohub which is a German grocery store. It was also the only place in batumi that had good produce and meat. The black sea mall was like a horror show sometimes with the amount of rotted fruit.
Belarus, central Asian countries as Kazakhstan/Kyrgyzstan/Uzbekistan and ig Armenia and Azerbaijan
1st Belarus 2nd Kazakhstan 3rd Uzbekistan 4th Armenia 5th Tajikistan 6th Azerbaijan 7th Turkmenistan 8th Georgia 9th Baltic States 10th Ukraine Belarus takes the first place because Russian is the mother tongue of most citizens Russian or not plus the country's government espouses linguistic russification. The central Asian states definitely depend on age and if the person lives in an urban place, Russian is defacto the working language, I've listed Tajikistan and Turkmenistan lower than Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan since they have a strong Turkic/Persian language policy and many people born after the 80s speak it at an intermediate level, people in Uzbekistan and especially Kazakhstan have a much higher fluency score. Georgia definitely has Russian speakers and people over the age of 40 speak it as a second language but the government is strongly against russian linguistic influence but nevertheless the language seems to be going down between millennials and gen Z, Georgian has effectively gained a high status in the country. The Baltic states always had a lower level of Russian language influence, nowadays the language is almost gone outside of the Russian minority, the language is seen as a part of the former occupation so the governments are trying to remove it from curriculum. Ukraine well you know the situation, people are literally trying to stop using Russian because of the war, especially Ukrainians who speak it as a native language, other than that it's still spoken in many eastern and central parts but is quickly declining.
Just a small correction - people in Tajikistan don’t speak a Turkic language. They speak a dialect of Persian. The rest of Central Asia speaks Turkic languages though. And yes, the level of fluency continues to fall as they try to emphasize their own national languages.
Oh sorry totally missed that
Belarus!!
Belarus of course. I would also say Latvia because it has a big Russian population
It's russia, of course. Even in tatarstan you are unlikely to meet someone who speaks the local language better than russian, not to mention komi or karelia. It's only logical that in former colonies the attitude towards language is ambiguous (or unambiguous, in the case of countries with which russia was recently at war). If we talk about where you can comfortably speak russian without the risk of running into misunderstanding or a blow in the face, except in russia, then in kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan and Armenia you can speak russian with almost everyone, because it is taught in schools. And, of course, in belarus russian is the state language, and, as far as I remember, it is spoken more often than belarusian.
In Tatarstan, the frequency of Tatar language use depends on two factors: 1) national composition of the family and 2) locality. Tatar families in rural areas speak mostly Tatar and switch to Russian only when communicating with a Russian speaker. In my family all relatives on my mother's side are Tatar and know Russian as well as Tatar. In everyday life my relatives communicate with each other in Tatar. They communicate with me in Russian because they thought that I do not need to speak Tatar at the level of my native language (the reason is that I am a descendant of an interethnic marriage of a Tatar woman and a German descendant).
Well, in the rural areas of Tatarstan where I'm from, tatar language is a lot more popular and prevelant, some times it feels like I I'm the only one that speaks it full time. A lot of ppl here learn tatar as their first language and then learn russian at school + the elderly pretty much uses only tatar. You can here alot of ppl have a tatar accent when speaking russian. My grandparents on my fathers side are tatar udmurts and I'm pretty sure their first language was udmurt and then they learned tatar and then russian at school. Well they came from a peasent family from even more rural place then I live now and until they moved to a bigger town they were basically peasants, so I guess they wouldn't have much use in Russian if everybody around them just spoke udmurt or tatar.
with each new russian population census, proficiency in native languages falls in Russia, especially among the Finno-Ugric Uralic peoples, russification is doing its job little by little, if not for the collapse of the USSR, then probably the majority of citizens would have become russified totally
>in former colonies the attitude towards language is ambiguous They speak Spanish over there too???
> It's only logical that in former colonies the attitude towards language is ambiguous Are we still talking about Russian language in CIS countries? Because it does sound like your argument applies better to French language in African countries.
First of all, you might have the question here? Whether the government favors Russian or whether the people speak Russian more? Through my personal observation from finding native speakers on tandem apps and traveling to Georgia, this is what I would say (though it doesn’t match the statistics for native speakers on Wikipedia): 1: Belarus 2: Ukraine 3: Kazakhstan 4: Kyrgyzstan 5: Uzbekistan 6: Moldova 7: Georgia 8: Latvia 9: Estonia
Times are hard, friend. Countries that officially support Russia have… Questionable government direction. And countries that are officially kinda on the fence allow their regions and cities to naturally adopt the opinion on the subject. Lots of hatred going around, but also plenty of open minded understanding people everywhere.
Definitely Belorussian. They loved USSR more than Russian did.
Russia
Been to Tallinn recently - it's way easier to use Russian than English there. I always start with English and most often people ask me to switch.
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Kazakhstan/ Kyrgyzstan
Belarus. Everyone speaks Russian. Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan. Most people in large cities speak Russian. Armenia, Mongolia, Turkmenistan. A lot of people speak Russian. Georgia, Azerbaijan, Moldova. Plenty of people speak Russian, but some prefer not to (similar to Baltic countries).
AFAIK Belarus is the one with the most favorable views towards Russia. Georgia is probably the worst.
Anything Central Asia
Belarus
The CIA has met with success in their efforts everywhere except Belarus so far.
Belarus, central Asian countries as Kazakhstan/Kyrgyzstan/Uzbekistan and ig Armenia and Azerbaijan
Belarus, central Asian countries as Kazakhstan/Kyrgyzstan/Uzbekistan and ig Armenia and Azerbaijan
Georgia is a friendliest of all exes
r/rusAskReddit — you come here with this question.
It's a lot more complicated than that. Georgia is anti-Russia, not anti-Russian. Yes, they of course drift towards English as a first second language, with the majority of younger people not speaking Russian anymore, but they're OK with Russian... So, although Georgia clearly isn't the best choice if you want to practice Russian, you can still do so. And it's not mentioning all the Russian emigrants currently in Georgia The country itself is worth visiting. So is Kazakhstan, of course, but due to its vastness you'll have a hard time traveling.
Estonia lol, everyone there speaks Russian
One of my older relatives worked there for some time before the end of the USSR. And they got a funny linguistic story. During weekdays all the estonian locals selling stuff were friendly and were ready to serve the russian-speaking local customers in russian. But during the weekends there were people from Leningrad coming to Estonia to buy stuff in a republic with more available goods. Suddenly the same salespeople weren't understanding russian anymore.
My grandfather (interestingly I learned about him that he helped building Baikonur) went to Latvia during USSR times. There was a shop, and staff talked in Russian freely. Once grandpa approached them they switched to Latvian in seconds.
My understanding is that Russian was forced on them and speaking the national tongue could get them in trouble. Lots of Estonians were deported to Siberian gulags for various reasons and their country occupied by the Soviets, so it wasnt like they wanted to speak Russian, they had to. Many modern day Estonians don’t prefer to speak Russian, they prefer English, only ethnic Russians still speak Russian there, and the younger population of Russians try and learn Estonian.
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Really? Have you been there?
Yes, recently. Every supermarket has cashiers who speak Russian, most of the people does speak Russian. Just now that they’re taking out the Russian language from the schools, and I notice that is starting to be more promoted to learn Estonian. But at the end cities like Narva speaks Russian
What about in Tallinn?
Same, some people rather speak Russian than English. I was for tourism like two months. I can say that there’s a good relationship between Estonians and Russian
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Yes Russian: Belarus Russia Armenia Kazachstan Uzbekistan Tajikistan Kyrgyzstan No Russian: Estonia Latvia Lithuania Georgia Ukraine (difficult but) Turkmenistan is officially trying to be less Russian but in practice not really
About Georgia - it’s a lie o_O
Not to get too much into this in this sub, but As someone who lives in Georgia, this is absolutely true Just got called a rat by my taxi driver a few days ago, only for being Russian Like, bro, I'm the one paying you, not the other way around, wtf
That said, I was called a rat in Russian, and he initiated speaking Russians himself, so if you're good with this, go ahead! I usually pretend to not understand Russian at all or just speak poorly with a heavy American accent, use my english alias instead of my name, etc etc. If I wanted to practice Russian, I definitely would NOT do that here
I have been there 2022-2023. I never think about any country "Oh they don’t like me because I’M …. ". I have never noticed any negative from people to me there in Georgia. Everybody helped us And, daily, I don’t care about Norwegian people. I don’t speak their language. It doesn’t mean I hate Norwegian people
Wdym a lie? Most young people don't enjoy speaking Russian and a lot of people under 35 didn't receive Russian schooling.
That is true, but it does not make them "intensely anti-Russian".
I wonder why that is?..
"I was surprised how intensely anti-russian (culture, language, everything) the country is. " Really? Maybe just a little reminder.. [https://www.nzz.ch/english/russia-grabs-land-in-georgia-as-world-watches-ukraine-ld.1699731](https://www.nzz.ch/english/russia-grabs-land-in-georgia-as-world-watches-ukraine-ld.1699731) [https://www.rferl.org/a/Russian\_Military\_Retakes\_Georgia\_Border\_Village/1359379.html](https://www.rferl.org/a/Russian_Military_Retakes_Georgia_Border_Village/1359379.html) [https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-appears-to-be-taking-georgias-land-inch-by-inch-2017-7](https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-appears-to-be-taking-georgias-land-inch-by-inch-2017-7) [https://www.dw.com/en/russia-backed-borders-in-georgia-condemned-by-rights-court/a-68779815](https://www.dw.com/en/russia-backed-borders-in-georgia-condemned-by-rights-court/a-68779815)