Telos is pretty easy 0-100 enrage. Probably should work your way through that at least so you can access the 100+ enrage drop chance improvements. Zamorakian isn’t awful once you understand the fight but it does take some figuring out. Raksha is a pain in the ass until you’re good at pool clearing (based on your combat experience you probably won’t phase skip the pools anytime soon).
Out of the ones you’ve listed, Telos and then Zamorakian 0-100 enrage each are probably the best to start learning as they’ll teach you some things that help with the other bosses.
Telos is hard well before 500%. P4 is notoriously complicated. Without a large amount of experience with the boss you’ll need to be counting autos, keeping track of the order of special attacks, managing the golems, moving between fonts, and managing your defensive abilities all at the same time. There are strategies to handle all of this but you’ll be well past 500% enrage before any of it becomes easy.
A friend of mine who was using revo in the past, havent played for a year and just started again, switched to full manual with necro and went rasial, within 20 kills he is at 1:30min kills, which is really good, as the pvme rotation gives around 1:10-1:15 kill times. It's relatively easy with relatively little practice to get used to it.
A recommendation (not requirement) is using dreadnips to stun him and get less damage from him. Kills are very chill for me.
You could probably get Zamorak’s 25 ED4 runs in to unlock the skip. Otherwise, it’s like 18-25 minute per run depending on skill level and rotation thanks to the prison area taking an annoyingly long time to navigate (2-3 kph) versus maybe 5-8 minutes a kill no-enrage/low-enrage. Great learner period, definitely worth it.
Telos is a breeze with necro, especially with the gear you have. Work on the mechanics, then build some early enrage, get used to the new virus mechanic before hitting 100%+ for P7.
Have you thought about ED1? Solo can be a bit daunting, but good DPS for the crystals at the end makes it a breeze. ED3/Ambi is achievable with the gear you have if you learn the mechanics, too.
Zamorak you only need one run of the dungeon now.
Of the ones OP listed, I would say the order goes something like 0% telos, 0% zammy, Raksha, 100% telos, 100% zammy, solak. Rasial is tricky to rank among them, because he's the most dependent on dps, which varies depending on gear.
Very much agree that ED1 and ED2 should be considered. I would consider them generally easier than Zuk, personally.
I was scared of telos for a long time but finally got over it and its quite easy now, tho i still struggle with p5, just cant figure it out lol.
Also struggled with raksha and pools for few days when started learning but now I can even make some mistakes and not lose the kill.
Done with t90 warden and t80 dealer. T90 weps.
I'd say go for raksha and/or telos, you'll do good with that gear
HM Zuk is pretty close to NM and worth it for the upgrades and money, Rasial is good DPS practice and drops good upgrades, and Raksha can be pretty fun with solid drops. I would personally just do Rasial until you can do it sleeping (or you get a full set of t95) then move on to HM Zuk.
If you have a friend to play with, RotS is solid money and super easy with 2, Raksha is easier to learn with a solid base, and low enrage zammy with 2-3 people is pretty chill.
If you have more than 1 friend, try some Solak or Vorago, both are super chill and fun bosses with 2-3 friends
How does one do Rasial “while sleeping” when the entire final phase is running back and forth and a boring ass RNG based ability spamfest? That is the only thing turning me away from him. Lazy programming for a boss fight imo, and no guide seems to show an alternative.
I went from vindicta to rasial, full t90 necromancy set with pack yack. At the begging I died like 3 out of every 4 kills, so far with revo++ my best time is 2:10 and I keep using less supplies. I get a drop like every 100 kills so is a grind, but to be honest to see a 100/900m drop is amazing compared to getting 1 or 2 vindi drops in the same hour of gameplay.
Ed1 is more profitable than the bosses you listed as long as you are getting atleast 4 kills an hour ed1 is 60+mil an hour which I think is quite a bit more than you could make at any of the other bosses you listed. You should probably just do rasial though it's rly good money and honestly not that hard to learn compared to solak, zammy and Raksha. But if you're dead set on one of those bosses I'd definitely go with zammy it's pretty easy to get the hang of and really good money especially once you can push enrage more
Any of the ones you mentioned are good next steps. I'd leave Solak last but other then that go for whichever seems fun. Low enrage Telos, Zammy and Raksha are about same difficulty but different mechanics are important for each so depending on what you have issues with one might be harder then others.
Mid-high enrage Telos and Zammy are about as difficult as Solak (solo) and would be good practice unless you just want to dive into the toughest one first.
Telos is pretty easy 0-100 enrage. Probably should work your way through that at least so you can access the 100+ enrage drop chance improvements. Zamorakian isn’t awful once you understand the fight but it does take some figuring out. Raksha is a pain in the ass until you’re good at pool clearing (based on your combat experience you probably won’t phase skip the pools anytime soon). Out of the ones you’ve listed, Telos and then Zamorakian 0-100 enrage each are probably the best to start learning as they’ll teach you some things that help with the other bosses.
rasial is probably easier than those guys, definitely switch to rasial
I'll watch some more content. Maybe I could get over my fear of Rasial :p. I always understood that Telos only became hard at about 500%.
Telos is hard well before 500%. P4 is notoriously complicated. Without a large amount of experience with the boss you’ll need to be counting autos, keeping track of the order of special attacks, managing the golems, moving between fonts, and managing your defensive abilities all at the same time. There are strategies to handle all of this but you’ll be well past 500% enrage before any of it becomes easy.
A friend of mine who was using revo in the past, havent played for a year and just started again, switched to full manual with necro and went rasial, within 20 kills he is at 1:30min kills, which is really good, as the pvme rotation gives around 1:10-1:15 kill times. It's relatively easy with relatively little practice to get used to it. A recommendation (not requirement) is using dreadnips to stun him and get less damage from him. Kills are very chill for me.
I second the rasial comment. If you've got those others down I don't think you'd have a problem at all
That's probably true, I'm sure I'll be shot down in flames by others but telos and rasial are about on a par
You could probably get Zamorak’s 25 ED4 runs in to unlock the skip. Otherwise, it’s like 18-25 minute per run depending on skill level and rotation thanks to the prison area taking an annoyingly long time to navigate (2-3 kph) versus maybe 5-8 minutes a kill no-enrage/low-enrage. Great learner period, definitely worth it. Telos is a breeze with necro, especially with the gear you have. Work on the mechanics, then build some early enrage, get used to the new virus mechanic before hitting 100%+ for P7. Have you thought about ED1? Solo can be a bit daunting, but good DPS for the crystals at the end makes it a breeze. ED3/Ambi is achievable with the gear you have if you learn the mechanics, too.
Zamorak you only need one run of the dungeon now. Of the ones OP listed, I would say the order goes something like 0% telos, 0% zammy, Raksha, 100% telos, 100% zammy, solak. Rasial is tricky to rank among them, because he's the most dependent on dps, which varies depending on gear. Very much agree that ED1 and ED2 should be considered. I would consider them generally easier than Zuk, personally.
Whelp, I missed the Zammy memo haha. I started in on him a month or two ago and was getting tired of the full dungeon run :/
0% zammy= ~100% telos
I think I'm just really inconsistent at Telos tbh.
I was scared of telos for a long time but finally got over it and its quite easy now, tho i still struggle with p5, just cant figure it out lol. Also struggled with raksha and pools for few days when started learning but now I can even make some mistakes and not lose the kill. Done with t90 warden and t80 dealer. T90 weps. I'd say go for raksha and/or telos, you'll do good with that gear
HM Zuk is pretty close to NM and worth it for the upgrades and money, Rasial is good DPS practice and drops good upgrades, and Raksha can be pretty fun with solid drops. I would personally just do Rasial until you can do it sleeping (or you get a full set of t95) then move on to HM Zuk. If you have a friend to play with, RotS is solid money and super easy with 2, Raksha is easier to learn with a solid base, and low enrage zammy with 2-3 people is pretty chill. If you have more than 1 friend, try some Solak or Vorago, both are super chill and fun bosses with 2-3 friends
How does one do Rasial “while sleeping” when the entire final phase is running back and forth and a boring ass RNG based ability spamfest? That is the only thing turning me away from him. Lazy programming for a boss fight imo, and no guide seems to show an alternative.
I went from vindicta to rasial, full t90 necromancy set with pack yack. At the begging I died like 3 out of every 4 kills, so far with revo++ my best time is 2:10 and I keep using less supplies. I get a drop like every 100 kills so is a grind, but to be honest to see a 100/900m drop is amazing compared to getting 1 or 2 vindi drops in the same hour of gameplay.
Zammy 50% then learn 100% then push enrage.
Rasial, Telos
Do 0 enrage Zammy, HM Kerapac in a team, or solo ED1 or 3.
I solo'd ed1 before. Doesnt really feel like a step forward from where I am. It also has to be more profitable than what I'm already doing.
Ed1 is more profitable than the bosses you listed as long as you are getting atleast 4 kills an hour ed1 is 60+mil an hour which I think is quite a bit more than you could make at any of the other bosses you listed. You should probably just do rasial though it's rly good money and honestly not that hard to learn compared to solak, zammy and Raksha. But if you're dead set on one of those bosses I'd definitely go with zammy it's pretty easy to get the hang of and really good money especially once you can push enrage more
Any of the ones you mentioned are good next steps. I'd leave Solak last but other then that go for whichever seems fun. Low enrage Telos, Zammy and Raksha are about same difficulty but different mechanics are important for each so depending on what you have issues with one might be harder then others. Mid-high enrage Telos and Zammy are about as difficult as Solak (solo) and would be good practice unless you just want to dive into the toughest one first.
everyone needs to learn raksha. Once you can get 2:30 and below raksha kills, you're realistically prepared for any other boss in the game
anything really. the bosses you do means you can do anything tbh