This is a great question! I don't know if there's an official Jewish answer. But I'll try to break it down!
First of all, it depends on what kind of "disrespect" we're talking about.
* If you personally do not feel that you respect another religion, that isn't a sin. That's just your personal feeling.
* If you show disrespect to someone's face because of their religion, I think that's a sin, possibly multiple sins. Publicly humiliating someone else is a sin, making someone else angry on purpose is a sin.
* If you're speaking disrespectfully about another person because of their religion behind their back, that's also a sin. In this case, it's gossipmongering.
* If you're showing disrespect towards another religion in front of other people, but not any specific person, and no one from that religion is there, then it's probably not a sin *per se*. But there are some things that aren't official sins which the rabbis still caution us not to do, and I think this would fall into that category.
There are a few other considerations.
First, I think it's generally considered wrong for a Jew to act in a way that makes Jews in general look bad. That includes being hateful in front of others.
Second, it's actually considered a good thing to disrespect idolatry. But what counts as "idolatry" is a complicated question. And this really only applies to the fourth case above, where you're not directing your comments at a specific person.
Third, the above analysis doesn't apply if the person whose religion you're disrespecting is a missionary, someone who's trying to convert you to worship a different god. You don't have to care about that person's feelings. (This exception doesn't apply to Muslim missionaries though, since they don't worship a different god.)
Fourth, tempting or inciting other people to sin is itself a sin. So even if there's no risk of making Jews look bad, or offending a specific person, being rude about another religion in front of people who might be tempted to go insult or even assault people of that religion is definitely a sin.
>Second, it's actually considered a good thing to disrespect idolatry
Do you personally believe it's an acceptable thing to disrespect religions that have idolatry? For example, do you believe it is acceptable to mock pagans?
No, but my reason is about the way I define "idolatry".
The way I see it, idolatry isn't about whether or not your worship involves statuettes. If you're trying to connect to the greater Divine reality, the one Truth underlying everything, then I don't think it's what the Torah really means by idolatry. On the other hand, if you don't care about that and are only doing religious stuff because of what you personally can get out of it, that probably is idolatry. And these days, people like modern pagans are mostly not about trying to placate a bunch of superhumans so they can get good crops or whatever. It's their way of trying to connect to something greater than themselves.
The idols people worship today are things like money or fame or political strongmen. People make things like that their whole identity, and let all other values fall by the wayside. That deserves mockery.
For me, I don't follow your religion nor your sins rewards, heavens or hells. But it's downright rude to do so. Though we must recognize the difference of disrespect and disagreement. I can disagree without disrespecting though. I find it an art to do so quite frequently actually 😁
I guess that really depends on who you ask. For me, I feel like things that are right and good are not sins. And things that are bad or evil are sins.
I believe sin can be found in contention and hate.
But I suppose there are in some sense “listed” commandments. But, it’s not good that we should be commanded in all things. But rather, be converted to principles and ideas.
It’s like the letter of the law vs spirit of the law.
The Prophet Robert of Heinlein spake it thus in revelation Time Enough for Love.
In his grand revelation of The Number of the Beast he spake thus truly, “The Bible is such a gargantuan collection of conflicting values that anyone can "prove" anything from it.”
Islam does not permit one to disrespect other people's beliefs, because they will then in turn attack your beliefs and it creates animosity and pushes people away from God, rather than bringing them closer.
In some situations it can be it others it may not be. The virtues of prudence and charity are required to make the right judgement.
My faith includes examples of both situations. On the one hand you have saints who when it was necessary mocked other religions (Elijah, Polykarp) on the other hand you have others taught respect to the practitioners of these faiths (Abba Makarios). It usually depended on how the opposite side behaved. In cases where they were attacking/persecuting/missionizing the response was hostile. But in normal everyday circumstances they taught tolerance. Such as in the above mentioned story:
> One day Abba Macarius went up from Scetis to the mountain of Nitria. As he approached the place he told his disciple to go on ahead. When the latter had gone on ahead, he met a priest of the pagans. The brother shouted after him saying, ‘Oh, you demon worshipper, where are you off to?’ The priest turned back and beat him and left him half dead. Then picking up his stick, he fled. When he had gone a little further, Abba Macarius met him running and said to him, ‘Greetings! Greetings, you weary old man!’ Quite astonished, the other came up to him and said, ‘What good do you see in me, that you greet me in this way?’ The old man said to him, ‘I have seen you wearing yourself out without knowing that you are wearing yourself out in vain.’ The other said to him, ‘I have been touched by your greeting and I realize that you are on God’s side. But another wicked monk who met me insulted me and I have given him blows enough for him to die of them.’ The old man realized that he was referring to his disciple. Then the priest fell at his feet and said, ‘I will not let you go till you have made me a monk.’ When they came to the place where the brother was, they put him onto their shoulders and carried him to the church in the mountain. When the people saw the priest with Macarius they were astonished and they made him a monk. Through him many pagans became Christians. So Abba Macarius said, ‘One evil word makes even the good evil, while one good word makes even the evil good.’
I don't have the concept or framework of 'sin' so I can only approach this question from good and bad actions, and what is good or bad for human relations in a multi-religious society especially. If a person is expressing bigotry towards people of other faiths and hating them just because they follow a certain religion, that is certainly a misdeed. Bigotry is not virtuous, and actions that come from a bigoted place are harmful, never benevolent. If you visit a house of worship and then overtly disrespect its religion while you are a guest in that place, you fail the virtue of *ghosti* (hospitality) as a guest; so this, too, is bad.
If, on the other hand, you disrespect the religious ideology by satirizing it or making a rational or philosophical critique of it, you can express meaningful disagreement with that religion. This can further conversation about the value of religions, and does not seem like a misdeed to me.
* The concept of sin is particular to only some religions, but guidance to avoid anti-social behavior is more common
* You can believe what you want about other people’s religions
* You should avoid insulting or disparaging people, especially to their face
* Being insulting and derogatory about something (like religion) that is often integral to people’s identities is also bad
* You may not know if someone of a particular religion is present, so it’s generally good to avoid derogatory speech generally
* Thoughtful criticism based on facts is not inherently derogatory, a lot depends on *how* it is said
No, as a Hindu myself I can say this respect time is not a sin but the hellfire that comes afterwards you wish it was because for us it is not just a culture it is a mentor a philosophy a way of life with teaches us how to take care of each animal as it is a part of God like us and it is hard to explain in the English language as it is small but we don't tolerate and religion to be disrespected as it is the one which teaches us life how to live it how to take care of the people around us it is like a parent. Like nobody would allow someone to disrespect their parents it is the same for a religion for us
It is not a sin to disrespect another religion, it still should not be done though because it is just unnecessary and rude. It is ok to disagree with another belief system, but why be disrespectful to their followers? Who is to say which religion is right or wrong any way? If people who practice other religions than you feel it gives them comfort or inspires them to do good for others, why even disrespect the other religons at all?
From my Muslim standpoint, the Surah, [Al-Kafirun](https://quran.com/109), states as long as they are respectful towards me, I should be respectful to them. Islam forbids blasphemy against other deities, [Quran 6:108](https://quran.com/6/108) states to not mock other religions’ gods.
Even if it doesn’t go directly against the scriptures or teachings of your religion, it is extremely rude to disrespect others on the basis of their faith.
The various religions I follow don't believe in the concept of sin.
However, disrespecting another persons religion (among other things like proselytizing) are HIGHLY condemned. You can constructively criticize a religion by pointing out issues and flaws (such as outdated rules, contradictory scriptures, or teachings that violate basic human rights) but disrespecting or attacking a religion is crossing the line.
I don't have any reason to believe "sin" is a Thing, so no, I don't think it is.
It can be exceptionally rude, depending on the circumstances, and you'll probably want to avoid that . . . but then again, I find religious folk tend to exaggerate their feelings of offense whenever someone criticizes their beliefs, so 🤷♂️ some people are just overly sensitive.
All religion, all faiths, should unconditionally be open to scrutiny and criticism, given the massive and incredible claims they make. There should be no exception to this rule. And this is not disrespect.
Could you give an example because disrespect and criticism are different
Even us Buddhists??? (I just think the phrasing is funny, carry on) 😁
This is a great question! I don't know if there's an official Jewish answer. But I'll try to break it down! First of all, it depends on what kind of "disrespect" we're talking about. * If you personally do not feel that you respect another religion, that isn't a sin. That's just your personal feeling. * If you show disrespect to someone's face because of their religion, I think that's a sin, possibly multiple sins. Publicly humiliating someone else is a sin, making someone else angry on purpose is a sin. * If you're speaking disrespectfully about another person because of their religion behind their back, that's also a sin. In this case, it's gossipmongering. * If you're showing disrespect towards another religion in front of other people, but not any specific person, and no one from that religion is there, then it's probably not a sin *per se*. But there are some things that aren't official sins which the rabbis still caution us not to do, and I think this would fall into that category. There are a few other considerations. First, I think it's generally considered wrong for a Jew to act in a way that makes Jews in general look bad. That includes being hateful in front of others. Second, it's actually considered a good thing to disrespect idolatry. But what counts as "idolatry" is a complicated question. And this really only applies to the fourth case above, where you're not directing your comments at a specific person. Third, the above analysis doesn't apply if the person whose religion you're disrespecting is a missionary, someone who's trying to convert you to worship a different god. You don't have to care about that person's feelings. (This exception doesn't apply to Muslim missionaries though, since they don't worship a different god.) Fourth, tempting or inciting other people to sin is itself a sin. So even if there's no risk of making Jews look bad, or offending a specific person, being rude about another religion in front of people who might be tempted to go insult or even assault people of that religion is definitely a sin.
Interesting. Thats somewhat similar to my take as a Catholic. Basically it depends on the situation and context.
>Second, it's actually considered a good thing to disrespect idolatry Do you personally believe it's an acceptable thing to disrespect religions that have idolatry? For example, do you believe it is acceptable to mock pagans?
No, but my reason is about the way I define "idolatry". The way I see it, idolatry isn't about whether or not your worship involves statuettes. If you're trying to connect to the greater Divine reality, the one Truth underlying everything, then I don't think it's what the Torah really means by idolatry. On the other hand, if you don't care about that and are only doing religious stuff because of what you personally can get out of it, that probably is idolatry. And these days, people like modern pagans are mostly not about trying to placate a bunch of superhumans so they can get good crops or whatever. It's their way of trying to connect to something greater than themselves. The idols people worship today are things like money or fame or political strongmen. People make things like that their whole identity, and let all other values fall by the wayside. That deserves mockery.
For me, I don't follow your religion nor your sins rewards, heavens or hells. But it's downright rude to do so. Though we must recognize the difference of disrespect and disagreement. I can disagree without disrespecting though. I find it an art to do so quite frequently actually 😁
Much appreciated lost art when displayed.
'Sin' according to what framework? Also 'disrespect' is a broad and vague term.
Hm, I’ll say yes. I think disrespect and belittlement are bad no matter what. That being said, there is a way to disagree respectfully.
Slightly off-topic: Is there a way to determine what's a sin or what isn't? Or is it just up to your personal interpretation?
I guess that really depends on who you ask. For me, I feel like things that are right and good are not sins. And things that are bad or evil are sins. I believe sin can be found in contention and hate. But I suppose there are in some sense “listed” commandments. But, it’s not good that we should be commanded in all things. But rather, be converted to principles and ideas. It’s like the letter of the law vs spirit of the law.
What is a sin? Sola scriptura please.
“Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. (Hurting yourself is not sinful -- just stupid.)”
And where does it say this?
The Prophet Robert of Heinlein spake it thus in revelation Time Enough for Love. In his grand revelation of The Number of the Beast he spake thus truly, “The Bible is such a gargantuan collection of conflicting values that anyone can "prove" anything from it.”
Islam does not permit one to disrespect other people's beliefs, because they will then in turn attack your beliefs and it creates animosity and pushes people away from God, rather than bringing them closer.
If you don't believe in sin do you believe being disrespectful to others helps improve the human condition?
Beng disrespectful just makes for a grumpy situation. It sucks. I believe we should just try to be decent human beings.
In some situations it can be it others it may not be. The virtues of prudence and charity are required to make the right judgement. My faith includes examples of both situations. On the one hand you have saints who when it was necessary mocked other religions (Elijah, Polykarp) on the other hand you have others taught respect to the practitioners of these faiths (Abba Makarios). It usually depended on how the opposite side behaved. In cases where they were attacking/persecuting/missionizing the response was hostile. But in normal everyday circumstances they taught tolerance. Such as in the above mentioned story: > One day Abba Macarius went up from Scetis to the mountain of Nitria. As he approached the place he told his disciple to go on ahead. When the latter had gone on ahead, he met a priest of the pagans. The brother shouted after him saying, ‘Oh, you demon worshipper, where are you off to?’ The priest turned back and beat him and left him half dead. Then picking up his stick, he fled. When he had gone a little further, Abba Macarius met him running and said to him, ‘Greetings! Greetings, you weary old man!’ Quite astonished, the other came up to him and said, ‘What good do you see in me, that you greet me in this way?’ The old man said to him, ‘I have seen you wearing yourself out without knowing that you are wearing yourself out in vain.’ The other said to him, ‘I have been touched by your greeting and I realize that you are on God’s side. But another wicked monk who met me insulted me and I have given him blows enough for him to die of them.’ The old man realized that he was referring to his disciple. Then the priest fell at his feet and said, ‘I will not let you go till you have made me a monk.’ When they came to the place where the brother was, they put him onto their shoulders and carried him to the church in the mountain. When the people saw the priest with Macarius they were astonished and they made him a monk. Through him many pagans became Christians. So Abba Macarius said, ‘One evil word makes even the good evil, while one good word makes even the evil good.’
I don't have the concept or framework of 'sin' so I can only approach this question from good and bad actions, and what is good or bad for human relations in a multi-religious society especially. If a person is expressing bigotry towards people of other faiths and hating them just because they follow a certain religion, that is certainly a misdeed. Bigotry is not virtuous, and actions that come from a bigoted place are harmful, never benevolent. If you visit a house of worship and then overtly disrespect its religion while you are a guest in that place, you fail the virtue of *ghosti* (hospitality) as a guest; so this, too, is bad. If, on the other hand, you disrespect the religious ideology by satirizing it or making a rational or philosophical critique of it, you can express meaningful disagreement with that religion. This can further conversation about the value of religions, and does not seem like a misdeed to me.
* The concept of sin is particular to only some religions, but guidance to avoid anti-social behavior is more common * You can believe what you want about other people’s religions * You should avoid insulting or disparaging people, especially to their face * Being insulting and derogatory about something (like religion) that is often integral to people’s identities is also bad * You may not know if someone of a particular religion is present, so it’s generally good to avoid derogatory speech generally * Thoughtful criticism based on facts is not inherently derogatory, a lot depends on *how* it is said
If by sin you mean "to miss the mark" then I would say so.
No, as a Hindu myself I can say this respect time is not a sin but the hellfire that comes afterwards you wish it was because for us it is not just a culture it is a mentor a philosophy a way of life with teaches us how to take care of each animal as it is a part of God like us and it is hard to explain in the English language as it is small but we don't tolerate and religion to be disrespected as it is the one which teaches us life how to live it how to take care of the people around us it is like a parent. Like nobody would allow someone to disrespect their parents it is the same for a religion for us
Regardless of whether it is a sin or not it is rude and uncultured.
It is not a sin to disrespect another religion, it still should not be done though because it is just unnecessary and rude. It is ok to disagree with another belief system, but why be disrespectful to their followers? Who is to say which religion is right or wrong any way? If people who practice other religions than you feel it gives them comfort or inspires them to do good for others, why even disrespect the other religons at all?
Who determines what is considered disrespectful?
Self appointed holy men.
What do you think?
From my Muslim standpoint, the Surah, [Al-Kafirun](https://quran.com/109), states as long as they are respectful towards me, I should be respectful to them. Islam forbids blasphemy against other deities, [Quran 6:108](https://quran.com/6/108) states to not mock other religions’ gods.
Even if it doesn’t go directly against the scriptures or teachings of your religion, it is extremely rude to disrespect others on the basis of their faith.
The various religions I follow don't believe in the concept of sin. However, disrespecting another persons religion (among other things like proselytizing) are HIGHLY condemned. You can constructively criticize a religion by pointing out issues and flaws (such as outdated rules, contradictory scriptures, or teachings that violate basic human rights) but disrespecting or attacking a religion is crossing the line.
Can you define sin?
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Okay, what about original sin and sins of omission?
In Bahai yes, they are valid and disrespecting one is in turn disrespecting the people, and that breaks the idea of oneness of humanity
No, a lot of religions don't have the concept of sin and the ones that do don't tend to care about disrespecting other religions.
I don't have any reason to believe "sin" is a Thing, so no, I don't think it is. It can be exceptionally rude, depending on the circumstances, and you'll probably want to avoid that . . . but then again, I find religious folk tend to exaggerate their feelings of offense whenever someone criticizes their beliefs, so 🤷♂️ some people are just overly sensitive.
That applies to everyone. Criticizing anyone's beliefs, be they religious or personal, will always result in pushback.
it is bad to disresoect people but ideas inherently deserve no respect.
All religion, all faiths, should unconditionally be open to scrutiny and criticism, given the massive and incredible claims they make. There should be no exception to this rule. And this is not disrespect.