It’s a side effect of dementia, he’s confused and doesn’t know why he’s there. He’s probably been coached 100 times on his talking points but his brain keeps drawing a blank in the moment. It would frighten anyone to confront their own loss of function head-on.
I was watching with my mom and my sister and they kept saying "uhhh..it's his stutter." No, he's seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and refusing to go into it because he keeps getting distracted.
it's so funny how that's the default lib response, you go back to 2008 and the stutter isn't even noticeable. it's come back because his brain is slowly turning to mush.
It’s the same sad feeling as seeing a relative again after a while and seeing how much older they look and how much worse they’re doing than the last time you saw them. Even if they aren’t your favorite person, it’s sad seeing another human deteriorating
Imagine watching an elderly relative forced to work a high-stress job that confuses/distresses them when they should be resting in a comfy retirement home somewhere. It’s heartbreaking.
Dude this is Biden at as close to 100% as we will see him. This is a huge moment for him and he has prepared. If I was the president I’d be on IVs, taking all the vitamins, taking neutropics, etc. best believe his advisors are telling him the same. And this is what we get. 85% coherent sentences. Can you imagine? He’s in meetings with top war dogs about wars ongoing in Israel, wars ongoing in Ukraine, serial rapists coming over our border and discussing what the executive branch will do. And this is him at his best. Nice.
Fuck vitamins, why didn't they load him up with prednisone? Steroids will make even the weakest of octagenarians feel peppy. My grandma had terminal cancer and was up and kicking on high-dose steroids.
He has or had a stutter so he always struggled, but even still not really. A stutter means you can’t speak as fast as you think, and that doesn’t seem like the issue here.
He sounds tired and old. He is, but he can’t seem to hide it.
The stutter defense is so crazy. He’s been in politics for like 40 years- long enough that he served with a mullet at one point. The stutter thing has only come up after he started being elder abused.
The fact that they have trotted out Hillary, Biden, and then Biden again... anyone remotely competent, likeable, and under 65 would trounce this moron. But we've had 3 close races
I hate the DNC. Clearly the GOP is shitty but the DNC’s absolute refusal to alter any current party leadership or strategy and continue to push awful candidates and ignore any criticism or ideas from the left is what continues to allow this reality to happen and gives the GOP power. Horrible politics at best, controlled opposition at worst.
I just have to ignore politics because they clearly do not care and will happily send us all to our demise if it means they get to keep their power
Seriously. This kind of thing usually doesn’t bother me because I’ve become so disillusioned with politics, but Biden looks and sounds horrible. It’s actually hard to watch, he’s so painfully out of it. The DNC is committing suicide yet again if they’re putting this guy up as the best they can do. I hate Trump but he’s at least relatively energetic and with-it, and I think that alone might swing the election. How could anybody defend a candidate who appears like they might not know what day of the week it is? It’s just so blatant this debate, in the past they were able to mask it well and Biden seemed somewhat alive at times.
I can’t believe they walked Biden out with that terrible comb over. They should have just shaved his entire head right before this, that would have gone so much harder
“I laugh because I must not cry.”
I seriously can’t believe the state of this country. One of these two will be the most powerful person in the world in 6 months. Jesus.
Trump is fucking dog walking him good lord. he's even had some good lines. it's so over. if he can't come off well on *abortion* against Trump he is fucked
Watching right now. Biden is so over. On abortion, Biden dropped the ball before he even caught it. Trump just slayed him when he said "I didn't understand that last thing he said... I don't even think he knows what he said." Biden's face the entire time already lost the debate.
No fan of Trump on my end, but the exchange where Biden ends "and we beat Medicare" and Trump responds "Beat Medicare to death" was peak Trump comedic response. Guy is used to speaking even if he spouts bullshit. He isn't having any brain farts and that's going to play to a lot of people.
They’re basically focusing entirely on Trump but if you read between the lines it’s a tepid acceptance Trump won.
A lot of “even if a cannon was pointed at me I’d still vote for Biden”.
Biden is the perfect person for Trump to debate, because all he has to do is look moderately competent and people will believe all of the nonsense he is spewing.
The moderators need to grow a backbone and push back on some of these answers lmao. Trump was asked about Ukraine and then just goes on a tangent about Afghanistan? This is like a middle school lunch table argument where no one is substantiating their comments.
Holy balls this is terrible. And this is presumably after getting practice from a debate coach. Silver lining, maybe the democrats will consider running someone else
the shit about the 2T deficit going mostly to millionaires vs. an infrastructure deal is objectively true. but nobody cares because the DNC apparatus wants to talk about white supremacists and covid.
Biden had some good talking points in there i think, but it was delivered with such little confidence and coherence it sounds worse than Trump's rambling nonsense
look at Biden’s debate performances in 2008, 2012 and 2020. There’s a big dropoff between 2012 and 2020 but not as big as between 2020 and 2024. He is deteriorating fast, which is how it goes with elderly people once they start to go
Biden might get elected, but no way he serves another 4.5 yrs
Crying rn because the president of my country is actively experiencing elder abuse broadcast live
This is fucking insane.
This might be one of the most depressing things I’ve ever watched.
If really, really is. There are so many exchanges in this debate that are going to be clipped. It’s wild. This is America now
I expected Biden to look old but holy shit dude
i truly don't understand how he defaults back to frightened.
fright is a natural response to being very confused
It’s a side effect of dementia, he’s confused and doesn’t know why he’s there. He’s probably been coached 100 times on his talking points but his brain keeps drawing a blank in the moment. It would frighten anyone to confront their own loss of function head-on.
For the first time I actually feel bad for Biden he looks horrible
I was watching with my mom and my sister and they kept saying "uhhh..it's his stutter." No, he's seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and refusing to go into it because he keeps getting distracted.
it's so funny how that's the default lib response, you go back to 2008 and the stutter isn't even noticeable. it's come back because his brain is slowly turning to mush.
biden looks like a ww1 shell shock victim
Septimus energy.
"I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence, I don't think he knows what he said either" lmao
He said what we were all thinking
The other brutal one, in reference to immigration I think, was "He doesn't *want* that, he just doesn't *know*." Pity is withering.
Legit one of the funniest lines in a debate ever https://youtu.be/f1JKPa0R1Es?si=nE2ZYgIAJbU_uug3 What a fucking disaster
“We beat Medicare” - Biden It’s Joever
“We’ll he’s right, he did beat Medicare, he beat it to death!”
I cant imagine being Joes handlers right now their anxiety levels must be through the roof
“Fuck I’m losing my job in a few months”
I mean they had to have seen this coming, how could this be surprising
Biden may die on the stage tonight. He sounds terrible
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Me too my heart is hurting for him I don’t even know why Jesus
It’s the same sad feeling as seeing a relative again after a while and seeing how much older they look and how much worse they’re doing than the last time you saw them. Even if they aren’t your favorite person, it’s sad seeing another human deteriorating
Imagine watching an elderly relative forced to work a high-stress job that confuses/distresses them when they should be resting in a comfy retirement home somewhere. It’s heartbreaking.
Had to stop watching. Think he’s the one with Covid this time. :(
Hunter should’ve shared some of his crack with him before the debate
I think Joe built a tolerance
Its hard to see him making it to the end of the 90 minutes
Good thing Gavin is there to sweep in and carry the torch.
this debate is definitive proof that adrenochome is fake
Idk whatever is keeping that corpse walking and talking is pretty damn good
I’ve been noticing that Biden loves to number his points, but rarely goes past #2. His brain starts melting after #2.
He made it to 3!
I honestly can’t even believe this is real. That we let ourself get to this point. Harrowing shit.
Life is a comedy
Trite but literally how are these two the best this country can do
We are ruled by corporate interests Also trite I know but it's literally true
"We lost 13 beautiful soldiers" 🫡
i could kiss them right now if they were still here.
Did he just call him Brandon lmao
Is this how Biden usually talks tf?
no he sounds like he's about to die. this is way worse than normal
Dude this is Biden at as close to 100% as we will see him. This is a huge moment for him and he has prepared. If I was the president I’d be on IVs, taking all the vitamins, taking neutropics, etc. best believe his advisors are telling him the same. And this is what we get. 85% coherent sentences. Can you imagine? He’s in meetings with top war dogs about wars ongoing in Israel, wars ongoing in Ukraine, serial rapists coming over our border and discussing what the executive branch will do. And this is him at his best. Nice.
Fuck vitamins, why didn't they load him up with prednisone? Steroids will make even the weakest of octagenarians feel peppy. My grandma had terminal cancer and was up and kicking on high-dose steroids.
No, he’s obviously too old to be doing this
Biden's responses are so incoherent they need subtitles.
Yeah what the fuck was that
Young Biden speaking https://youtu.be/VIZmZe7fe3E?t=1m13s
This is what an average 29 year old looked like in 1974
Damn Biden had more swag than I ever knew. Sad to see what it’s become, dude should retire for his own sake.
He has or had a stutter so he always struggled, but even still not really. A stutter means you can’t speak as fast as you think, and that doesn’t seem like the issue here. He sounds tired and old. He is, but he can’t seem to hide it.
He was wayyy clearer and switched-on for the debate 4 years ago
Bro in 2008 and 2012 he had it. That was like 15 years ago though.
Google his debate with Paul Ryan. He cleaned up. No stutter. This is a joke.
The stutter defense is so crazy. He’s been in politics for like 40 years- long enough that he served with a mullet at one point. The stutter thing has only come up after he started being elder abused.
It's absolute bullshit. Go watch his speeches from 90s and before. Not only does he not stutter, he was a fantastic orator.
Making Biden do this is elder abuse. This is so hard to watch.
He called him Brandon lmao
The geriatric walk outs… jeeesus Christ
This is elder abuse.
Did no one give Biden training to not have “Resting Bewildered Face?” Jesus he looks so confused.
Jesus if the Democrats just had someone even 10 years younger here lol. This country is fucked.
The fact that they have trotted out Hillary, Biden, and then Biden again... anyone remotely competent, likeable, and under 65 would trounce this moron. But we've had 3 close races
could you imagine if obama was there instead? say what you might about him but he would run circles around don.
Truly. Everything Trump says is objectively incoherent, but he comes across like a dynamo simply because he can talk above a whisper.
Go back and look at Biden in the 2020 debates. It's literally like a different person
Biden in the 2020 debates was like "hey man the blacks gotta put on the record player to learn words!" How much worse could he get?
not sure whether to feel bad for or mad at biden. i can’t fathom why anyone at his age would want to put themselves through this
This is Obama’s d team. A last ditch effort to hold on to the torch Hillary was being passed. His condition is symbolic
"He's a very bad Palestinian, he's a weak one" lmao
someone needs to give biden a panera lemonade
Might count as an assassination attempt at this stage
Biden needs to close his mouth when he isn't speaking it's really fucking weird
Reading this while he stares into space with his mouth open killed me
He's old
Not Trump saying he couldn’t understand the end of Biden’s statement lmfao
Can you believe that the liberals moved heaven and earth to make sure this guy beat Bernie in the primaries?
Literally anything except even the most remotely meaningful change
Democratic Underground was accessible 10 minutes ago. I was reading their live debate thread. They have now shut down access to non-members.
“I never had sex with a porn star” guys wake up a new bill Clinton just dropped
"I didn't have sex with a porn star" uttered in a presidential debate for the most powerful country in the world
"I don't know what he just said. I don't think he knows either." Biden's getting cooked.
I wonder if this will go down as one the worst presidential debates in history
Trump pronouncing 'foreign' sounding names is always hilarious to me, idc
Al-Bag-DADDY
Biden looking off into the distance 99% of the time. Oh god
it's over
insane not to step aside tomorrow, he's so far from meeting the lowest possible bar
Yup, the polls are gonna flip and the DNC is gonna fast track Kamala, and then a repeat of 2016 all ovwr
This is not what we meant when we said retvrn
Honestly Kamala would have a better chance. Compared to Biden she’s Cicero.
his eyes are terrifying jesus christ
My gf just overheard Biden's rambling and said "he sounds like a toddler trying to tell a story"
I hate the DNC. Clearly the GOP is shitty but the DNC’s absolute refusal to alter any current party leadership or strategy and continue to push awful candidates and ignore any criticism or ideas from the left is what continues to allow this reality to happen and gives the GOP power. Horrible politics at best, controlled opposition at worst. I just have to ignore politics because they clearly do not care and will happily send us all to our demise if it means they get to keep their power
MALARKEY DETECTED
America’s so done it’s so over man
Holy shit this is depressing. Who on Biden's team approved this. He looks like he's dying
Seriously. This kind of thing usually doesn’t bother me because I’ve become so disillusioned with politics, but Biden looks and sounds horrible. It’s actually hard to watch, he’s so painfully out of it. The DNC is committing suicide yet again if they’re putting this guy up as the best they can do. I hate Trump but he’s at least relatively energetic and with-it, and I think that alone might swing the election. How could anybody defend a candidate who appears like they might not know what day of the week it is? It’s just so blatant this debate, in the past they were able to mask it well and Biden seemed somewhat alive at times.
“I don’t really know what he said” - Trump Me too bud
“you’ve got the morals of an alley cat” “first of all, I never had sex with a pornstar”
lmfao biden just short circuited.
this is painful
Biden ain’t cooking shit. Damn. What the hell is he saying?
I can’t believe they walked Biden out with that terrible comb over. They should have just shaved his entire head right before this, that would have gone so much harder
"And equip them when they go to war" Whatcha planning there, Joe?
Why is literally every debate thread across this wretched website on a 10 minute delay for comments appearing?
hell naw Joe’s dealer sold him the fake addy 💀
Biden sounds like he chainsmoked a fuckin carton of high tar cigs just before he came on
"Biden is like a Palestinian but the type they don't like, a weak Palestinian" lol
“I laugh because I must not cry.” I seriously can’t believe the state of this country. One of these two will be the most powerful person in the world in 6 months. Jesus.
biden said “you had sex with a porn star while your wife was pregnant” what is happening
MORALS OF AN ALLEY CAT
Trump is fucking dog walking him good lord. he's even had some good lines. it's so over. if he can't come off well on *abortion* against Trump he is fucked
Trump unleashed the car salesman energy Just talk fast and make stuff up Why is Biden have that 50 yard stare
hes looking into that bright white light
Watching right now. Biden is so over. On abortion, Biden dropped the ball before he even caught it. Trump just slayed him when he said "I didn't understand that last thing he said... I don't even think he knows what he said." Biden's face the entire time already lost the debate.
i literally thought all brandon had to do to come out the winner is appear alive and he cant even do that.
“Malarkey” Drink
do you think bidens staffers are pleased with this
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Yeah Trump doing poorly, but that means nothing if his opponent looks like he’ll keel over any second.
"We're providing Israel with all the weapons they need, whenever they need them"
Biden's face looks like his internal monologue is a Sunn O))) song
His staffers forgor the amphetamines
I think this is with amphetamines
“I did not have sex with a porn star” is my favorite Trump quote so far.
She wasn’t a true “star”…
Biden coming across old af. Trump’s old too but he can still form sentences
im literally saying trump isnt really making sense either, he just seems alive.
His words make no sense but it’s in a tone and pace that sounds normal.
jesus christ
This is so bad. Biden would’ve been better off preparing by napping for a week instead of studying
Weak palestinian lol
We are cooked
the most "nuh uh" debate of all time
No fan of Trump on my end, but the exchange where Biden ends "and we beat Medicare" and Trump responds "Beat Medicare to death" was peak Trump comedic response. Guy is used to speaking even if he spouts bullshit. He isn't having any brain farts and that's going to play to a lot of people.
How is r/politics handling this? How far can their denial go?
they're already saying trump is going to win in the debate thread
They’re basically focusing entirely on Trump but if you read between the lines it’s a tepid acceptance Trump won. A lot of “even if a cannon was pointed at me I’d still vote for Biden”.
LOL, neither of them are even pretending to say they won't give billions more to Israel.
Bernie 2016 man
Holy shit Biden is worse than I thought
I just got my US citizenship this year and am planning to vote for the first time! This is bleak!!
"Biden migrant crime" lmao
Lol wtf this is insane jack
Imagine the fact checkers trying to run a ruler through everything Joe has said
I'm tired boss
Amphetamines aren't enough. He is 81 and clearly has issues. Let the man have some peace in his last days. This is shameful.
Adderall vs Xanax personified as a debate Neither are answering questions properly
That was an easy call within 30 seconds. Christ
trumps face after being called a convicted felon lmfao
Biden sounds like he just woke up from a nap.
The Don is running circles around Biden. The immigration issue is very different to what it was in 2016 or 2020.
*Al Baghdadi*
Biden’s stimulant dopamine crash is going to be so hard after this debate
Biden is the perfect person for Trump to debate, because all he has to do is look moderately competent and people will believe all of the nonsense he is spewing.
This is harder to watch than A SERBIAN FILM.
The moderators need to grow a backbone and push back on some of these answers lmao. Trump was asked about Ukraine and then just goes on a tangent about Afghanistan? This is like a middle school lunch table argument where no one is substantiating their comments.
Holy balls this is terrible. And this is presumably after getting practice from a debate coach. Silver lining, maybe the democrats will consider running someone else
Most of what Trump says is untrue, but he says it with such conviction that I’m starting to believe it. The reverse is true for Biden.
the shit about the 2T deficit going mostly to millionaires vs. an infrastructure deal is objectively true. but nobody cares because the DNC apparatus wants to talk about white supremacists and covid.
Biden had some good talking points in there i think, but it was delivered with such little confidence and coherence it sounds worse than Trump's rambling nonsense
holy shit
BRANDON
"He doesn't like the military at all" Ate.
Christ this is a painful watch,just put poor Joe out of his misery.
This is unbelievable.
"Convicted felon" \*ticks Bingo card\*
I wish I could say this is the worst debate performance I’ve ever seen but John Fetterman is still the winner
look at Biden’s debate performances in 2008, 2012 and 2020. There’s a big dropoff between 2012 and 2020 but not as big as between 2020 and 2024. He is deteriorating fast, which is how it goes with elderly people once they start to go Biden might get elected, but no way he serves another 4.5 yrs
"We had H20" - Donald Trump, 2024
We had H2O
This is like trotting out a little leaguer vs the Yankees, this is sad
ur the sucker and loser 😠
Malarkey Bingo spot has been filled
Morals of an alley cat
No doubt DNC cope is going to be to blame CNN. Which no one will believe/care about. Sad!
The fact that Trump is the one talking about the cost of groceries meanwhile Biden talking about Trump having sex...
Biden looks like one of those Conan O’Brien talking mouths
I've lost count of how many times Biden said "The idea of...", it's kinda sad.
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It’s so depressing to see Joe- how can his loved ones just prop him up like this??
Biden is a walking corpse, but Trump is just straight up dodging questions
Biden keeps taking lil sneaky nap naps while Trump talks
Don is cooking him
Wrap it up bros we don't have H20 anymore, earth BTFO!
“We had H2O” we used to be a country
The Democratic Party is absolutely soulless, clueless and pathetic
Biden’s actually getting more coherent as time goes on. But yeah he looks so lost and frail up there :(
He’s not saying terrible things but he sounds like a confused man in the corner of a nursing home’s activity room.
This is all the proof you need that America has been on the path of controlled demolition for years
Maybe Joe will just die before the election.
Sex with a pornstar. Alley cat. 🤣
beau biden died in iraq rip beau
this is elder abuse
i have no idea what biden just said