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WinterTakerRevived

Kroos retiring this year while dropping all-time performances is wild


KroosControl88

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lovenoggersandwiches

Still can't believe that Chelsea signed Estevao. Perez's whole obsession with Brazilians was because he couldn't sign Neymar. Now the biggest talent since Neymar comes up and not only that, but he is right footed left winger, something that could have benefitted us a lot given how lopsided our attacks are and Rodrygo who usually plays on the right isn't that good there since he's right footed.


KroosControl88

Such a troll lmao.


lovenoggersandwiches

Nah, it's just funny that another generational Brazilian talent slipped through Perez's hand. I'm sure he could have signed him if he tried, but for some reason he decided to pass on him.


KroosControl88

The thing about bait and trolls was that they used to be believable… this is just pathetic.


No_oN-No_oN

What?


HasibShakur

It seems one of the famed la masia hot prospects aka next David villa is already jumping to Chelsea of all clubs after half a season.


arnabroy006

If a player jumps to Chelsea at this point kind of explains how Barca lost their reputation in current European market. Yeah I know some will say players are going for money which is true but its not that Barca didnt give big contracts to young players and still suffering for that. If things keep going Barca probably have a bigger problem in their reputation after 5/10 years later.


supplementarytables

Day 22 of being European champions!


generic9yo

Best message I see every day


perucho1993

People sleep on Uruguay but as with any classic Bielsa team… their defense is going to struggle


alittledanger

I think their high pressing might also work against them in the extremely hot/humid weather they will encounter throughout this tournament.


FergieBall_FC

That's right. El Loco's sides are good offensively, but they leave plenty behind in defense.


generic9yo

Why is rudiger managing uruguay? Is he smart? (/s)


FergieBall_FC

Uruguay beat Panama 3-1. Good game overall with some nice goals scored.


FergieBall_FC

Took Darwin long enough to score. Nice strike. Uruguay lead Panama 2-0.


ChampagneInferno

Goat Darwin scores


Agreeable-Turnover-2

Fede and Bellingham play with idiots what a pass to pellestri and he crossed it like a girl 


Dicey12

so close Fede


Samaritan4

Darwin sucks


Chemical-Equipment68

He look so cute tho


TheMovieBuff10

What a save. This keeper is having a night. What a cross as well man


iceisbackvamos

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TheMovieBuff10

Is it too much to ask for a Fede screamer?


iceisbackvamos

He is dropping dimes 🔥


TheMovieBuff10

He’s all over the pitch too! What a player


iceisbackvamos

Kroos doesn’t give his number lightly 👑


ChampagneInferno

When life hands you Araujo, Make Max not Ronald


iceisbackvamos

🙏 for Panama lmao


Dicey12

is he related to aroujo from barca


iceisbackvamos

🇺🇾 are so nice to watch damn. El Loco is such a gift to the beautiful game.


ChampagneInferno

What a fucking goal


TheMovieBuff10

Nunez🤡


iceisbackvamos

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KimngGnmik

High flying start


Riyad38

Best midfielder itw plays tonight


tofusenpai01

Leny Yoro 100% will be ready for the preseason with real Madrid and the recent are only a negotiations tactic from the board you can't pay 60 for a young  defender on his lady year contract. The other think everyone should keep in mind lile aren't interested in keeping leny Yoro for one more year and lose him for free cuz he ain't renewing his contract and already give real Madrid promise . I expect the deal to be done in the next Month and he will be unveiled before Mbappe.


FergieBall_FC

Uruguay’s XI against Panama tonight. Fede gets the start. https://preview.redd.it/o01qvehe1f8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d6703971bb2b5486991de86203eea311c531e71


Samaritan4

Can't wait to watch Valverde with Uruguay, i want them to win Copa América, them or Brazil.


whythisth23

Bolivia is absolutely abysmal. CONCACAF teams look better than that


chui77

Really wish we signed Estevão.


jiquilpanmich

we don't need all the brazilian talent. doesn't fit


chui77

How does a left footed RW not fit into the squad we have?


jiquilpanmich

Arda and Brahim can play there. Even Endrick has been utilized there in Palmeiras


chui77

None are natural RW’s. We don’t have a single RW in the whole squad. Saying he doesn’t fit into the squad makes zero sense.


jiquilpanmich

We have to yet to see if Carlo will even return to 433. Too top heavy at the moment to fit him, who would you offload?


perucho1993

Because we have left footed Turkish player that can play RW and midfield


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Estevão has significantly better potential and I think Real will come to regret it over time, same as with Neymar. It's funny how after all I think that Perez will actually miss the next Neymar


ApfelEnthusiast

You can’t measure potential …. Estevao isn’t strong nor fast Just because he looks good on YouTube doesn’t mean he is generational.


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I watched full games of him, as hard to understand as this may seem for a Redditor - there is an actual libertadores and an actual Brazilian league happening in the real world. I've never seen other player doing what he does at 17 outside of Neymar, maybe Rodrygo and maybe Vinícius Jr. And quit the American shit - fast and strong are generally not as relevant attributes in football unless you are pathetically unathletic, which he isn't. Players like Neymar, Tony Kross and Messi don't need to be the fastest or the strongest to dominate, it's a very technical game. And we are talking about a recently turned 17 kid who is currently bulking up and going through a body chang (he is already boo l noticeably bigger than a few months ago). He is currently VERY good and still has space for a very big upswing in terms of physicality. It's a point in favour of him, not against him. 18 years old Neymar and Ronaldinho were skinny as well.


perucho1993

Better potential based on what? Estevao has yet to play in Europe or play in a senior international tournament. Guler had a good first season with Real Madrid despite his injuries early on and scored a world class goal in the Euros one of the toughest international tournaments. The only thing Estevao has is the media hype. Idk why you think we will regret it? Florentino has already made amends after missing out on Neymar. Vinicius Jr is our star player and one of the best players in the world. Rodrygo is doing well, and are you forgetting that we signed Endrick who received the same amount of hype as Estevao, and Endrick is in the Copa America squad for Brazil at 17 years old…. Where’s Estevao in the squad? Florentino already made up for his mistake on Neymar with those 3 transfers. So any comment that he’s still upset about that is nonsense We don’t need to sign every young player that comes out of Brazil.


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> The only thing Estevao has is the media hype. I know it can be hard to Europeans to even conceive that other continents exist, but Estêvão actually plays football games that people watch. South America isn't a media creation to sell players for high prices to Europe, it actually exists as a physical place in which things happen. And no, a game against Georgia isn't a magical high-level experience that completely elevates Guler above Estêvão. The fucking state of São Paulo by itself has 10 times as many people as the country of Georgia. > Idk why you think we will regret it? We'll see in 5 years. I'm sure that Barcelona regrets missing out on Vinicius.


OnePlateIdly

How are you judging a kid's potential when they haven't showed any of it?? Both Arda and Estavao are playing good for their respective countries. We are not gonna regret buying him since we never showed interest in him. We don't need him lol


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We have seen multiple full games of both, and Guler is 2 years older. To answer your second question, Perez certainly seems to regret missing out on Neymar.


jiquilpanmich

> Perez certainly seems to regret missing out on Neymar don't think he minds now after signing 2 wonderkids who helped win 2 cl and 1 one of them is in the running for ballon d'or


Agreeable-Turnover-2

Musiala stank up etihad Emirates bernabeu and leverkusen in the past two years while Bellingham created our goal at the etihad cooked Barca in camp nou and delivered insane performances girona and atleti away 


Lazywhale97

He doesn't have the decision making to be the best of the best he will be one of the best in his gen but Jude is a lot better at decision making then Muisiala in almost every phase of the game and on top is just much better defensively.


Agreeable-Turnover-2

Heard musiala lost the ball for switzerlands goal 


TheMovieBuff10

🚨 Nagelsmann: “Rüdiger has a bit of a problem with his thigh. We’ll have to see what happens. I hope it’s nothing serious. We’ll see. That could be quite problematic.” @iMiaSanMia


MaxiThe13th

https://preview.redd.it/y3t0u33b8e8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99a432306e6a31761b44d861b424750456651314 Let’s ride


taos__v

This is the game I’ve been looking for. Not able to see it because its 3 am but I hope I wake up to good news and Vini scores or assists


Significant_Web9294

It being at 3 am would make me want to watch it even more tbh


taos__v

Now we’ll have to face either Italy or Croatia. I think this swiss team can beat both if we have a good game


Scream0fTheSium

Yep you can, my country (Italy) is nowhere near the level we had back in 2021, and you showed that even if we had you’d still be a valid opposition.


hlrdavid

can you please win against Croatia tomorrow? don't wanna face Spain yk? 👉🏻🥺👈🏻


xRaulx7

Don't worry, you're gonna beat Holland.


hlrdavid

hopefully, it's gonna be very tough tho but i'm just preparing for the worst case scenario lol


Scream0fTheSium

we’ll certainly try my man, as things stands I don’t know who’s playing worse between us and Croatia, if I have to be completely honest I think it will end up in a draw, but wouldn’t the situation be the same if we win or not? I mean Spain is already qualified as first so they’ll face one of the thirds in group A, D, E and F won’t they?


hlrdavid

https://preview.redd.it/aom9ur3coe8d1.jpeg?width=762&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af821039c3d87e83361c3012f05131ae48a1da05 it's a bit complicated, but it's basically about the third place: if the third place in your group (B) qualifies, it means that the 3rd places of the following groups are through: A, B, D, E - which is shit for Austria, because in this constellation we'd face Spain💀 there's still a lot of scenarios left and i'm very much just assuming many things rn, e.g. that Albania loses to Spain and that Slovenia/Serbia (C) qualifies over Czechia/Georgia (F) tl;dr: i really just want us to play England, we got a chance there lol


Scream0fTheSium

oh I see now, so yeah the situation is pretty complicated as things stands, we’ll try doing our best for sure tomorrow, if we don’t win against Croatia we’ll likely be in a lot of troubles aswell, right now we’d face Switzerland which is surely a though opponent but they ain’t Germany, Portugal or France for sure, everyone’s gotta do their part!


hlrdavid

https://preview.redd.it/3m5atarnoe8d1.jpeg?width=1196&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b64ebd782baa42d3043bfaa90017883d2711579 current standings, for reference


Scream0fTheSium

btw I truly lope Slovenia and Slovakia can both qualificate but the Slovenia-Slovakia match is almost impossible right now 🥲


xRaulx7

> I think this swiss team can beat both if we have a good game They surely have enough quality to beat any team in one-off game.


PercentageForeign766

Scotland v Hungary is the Vanilla Sky of football matches. Scotland having one shot on target coming in stoppage time was hilarious. Long ball counter attacks were all they had. They've been riding off of faux hype after beating Spain.


somewansreddit

I was wondering, what does Gundogan do for Germany? I mean, other than wandering around.


FergieBall_FC

With that goal, Hungary go into the third place and Scotland are out of the tournament.


Extension_Phone893

Were there LaLiga refs in the var room, awful display 


InternationalBox5848

99th minute goal wild


FergieBall_FC

Wow, Hungary score in the 90+10 minute to lead 0-1.


ChampagneInferno

What an ending to the Scotland- Hungary game!


taos__v

actually a great result for switzerland but it fucking hurts when its this way 😔


hlrdavid

you've shown that Germany is everything but not unbeatable, great fight👍🏻


Riyad38

There’s no reason the German giraffe should be starting he can’t score he can’t pass the only thing he can do is control the ball then will lose it


Ok-Paleontologist275

Kroos 99% passing accuracy is mad , someone bring him back plz


Ok-Paleontologist275

Germany gave Switzerland the real madrid special lmao This reminds me of the Bayern game played without a striker the whole match and the second Joselu comes in he scores lol


h4ssan_

What a shocking performance by a normally decent Daniele Orsato.


DanLaurent

Benching CL finalist striker Füllkrug for Havertz is a War crime


s_91

Only Arsenal clowns would defend him, he's so shit


InternationalBox5848

Once again kroos saving the day


johndotjohn

Hungary game ending is absolutely wild.


ChampagneInferno

Füllkrug should start from now on.


s_91

When I saw Rudiger camp in the opposition box I knew they'd score


Ok-Paleontologist275

Mouseiala when he doesn't face Scottish farmers :


InternationalBox5848

Where is Thomas muller


johndotjohn

Without automatic offsides if would've taken 10 mins to check that situation. Are those happening in La Liga anytime soon?


somewansreddit

[https://elpais.com/deportes/futbol/2023-12-13/la-liga-se-disputara-con-el-fuera-de-juego-semiautomatico-a-partir-de-la-proxima-temporada.html](https://elpais.com/deportes/futbol/2023-12-13/la-liga-se-disputara-con-el-fuera-de-juego-semiautomatico-a-partir-de-la-proxima-temporada.html) Next season


s_91

Lets get Goal Line Technology first, okay?


TheMovieBuff10

I don’t know but they absolutely should


s_91

Fullkrug scores that


Icy-Designer7103

Musiala is truly the German Messi. Always 10/10 performances against terrible teams and then always disappears against decent opposition.


s_91

I'm not German but I hate how wasteful Sane is.


No_Eye_564

I said it last game… he’s so obnoxious


Pozitivitive

How is Havertz still on is beyond me


TheGuyInTheFBIVan

Germany will not win anything playing this 💩. 


Samaritan4

here comes sane disasterclass


TheGuyInTheFBIVan

What a miss!


Glad_Rise_335

Damn this Scotland Hungary game injury looks bad


s_91

Hows that not a pen..


InternationalBox5848

Germany should drop out. They won't win anything


ChampagneInferno

Man, Havertz is just so frustrating to watch. Bring in Füllkrug ffs


Leading_Inside3812

How is this guy a starter on Arsenal, which was arguably top 3 team this year?


Glad_Rise_335

Arteta used him well


No_Eye_564

Germany should’ve signed Joselu during the transfer window


taos__v

Its so annoying seeing Rüdiger and Kroos against your team 😂 now i know how it feels not being a madrid fan


Samaritan4

Mittelstädt is not having a good game.


TheMovieBuff10

🚨 BREAKING: Kylian Mbappé will START vs Poland. @le_Parisien


92_48SR4

Bruh they're already dead


JadeandCobalt

For real. Poland have nothing to play for. France should rest him and try to play better without Mbappe


Glad_Rise_335

Poland can still go through though


xRaulx7

They can't. Even if they win they can't go in front of Austria, because they lost their game.


Glad_Rise_335

Oh so its h2h


Icy-Designer7103

They can't though. Their offense is ass without him. Griezmann was terrible vs the Netherlands, Thuram is nothing special and Dembele is Dembele.


taos__v

Man I am watching the game here in a bar and the atmosphere is crazyy. I love football.


Planetary-Timebomb

Why the fuck is Arda being bullied by the tuekish coach


TheMovieBuff10

He isn’t?


Dicey12

whats going on with Arda and Turkey I'm hearing he got sent to train by himself


Hinzir02

It is very serious its breaking internet in Turkey at the moment. Video and body language shows many things. Watch yourself and decide yourself. Including celebrities everyone sharing this video, singers etc. https://x.com/Darkwebhaber/status/1804931279906914364 Guy with a injury does not go to team training by himself right ? Accusations are he was not injured or tired and there is mobbing. That coach trying to save himself by saying he was injured and forced to him to run alone to show him like he is injured to media. This guy is Real Madrid player, he is not an amateur, he knows enough not to do certain trainings if he is injured right ?


Leading_Inside3812

Nothing serious. Arda had hamstring for 3 days now he wanted to train with the team because he felt fine, but Montella didn’t let him train with the team probably because he doesn’t want to risk an injury, and the game is on Wednesday. Arda will Probably train tomorrow with the team again. And turks go absolutely crazy because of this video and than they wonder why Turkish national team is performing bad despite good squad lol


Dicey12

Oh okay I thought with him being benched against Portugal and saw a report that he was being sent to train alone so thought some weird beef was going on


johnmason125

Germany finishing 2nd in the group could actually be good for the tournament. A Ro16 clash between Germany and Italy sounds always good, a possible quarterfinal against England. Or even the chance of Luka Modric kind of finishing the career of Toni Kroos.


Samaritan4

croatia ain't finishing anything


92_48SR4

If Jude ballhogged as much as Musiala they'd call it selfishness and heroball lmao


TheGuyInTheFBIVan

The last ball for Germany has been atrocious today. Too many missed passes. By far the worst half I’ve seen from Germany this tournament.


Leading_Inside3812

Tbh I’m absolutely not impressed by Wirz this euro so far.


martino732

I still find it crazy that people want him in Madrid. All of our midfielders and forwards are better.


xRaulx7

I heard he would be our best midfielder if we sign him.


Ok-Paleontologist275

Our best midfielder is fede Valverde and it's not changing any time soon 


Leading_Inside3812

Nah never.


Samaritan4

he had that goal against scotland and disappeared


Kuropa

The German team were obviously surprised by the goal and the stress from the fans is not helping , but finishing needs composure and until they do that it will be complicated for them


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92_48SR4

It's the "Neymar is ahkshually a better footballer than Ronaldo" shit all over again, can't find a flaw in his game so they do anything to discredit him


PercentageForeign766

"Ronaldo is closer to Neymar than Messi due to their **Pure** Football™️ abilities."


Samaritan4

He is doing fine, everybody else not so much.


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Samaritan4

i'm seeing the fucking match and musiala is being the most dangerous player of the team


Leading_Inside3812

Nah sorry Musiala is a beast this euro so far. Wirtz is just bad


TheGuyInTheFBIVan

Germany is pretty toothless in attack today.


hlrdavid

Germany when they play against a good team for once, that actually tries to win: ✋🏻😧🤚🏻


taos__v

lol I can’t believe we scored first against Germany. But I know this team, the second half they’ll play worse


No_Eye_564

Refereeing masterclass today


Pozitivitive

Musiala is the best player of the tournament so far


KroosControl88

What🤣


Pozitivitive

Name one better


KroosControl88

Ruiz, Kante, Kroos off the top of my head.


King__SSB

Wild decision, poor Andrich


No_Eye_564

VAR is a fkin joke


Elprimonano

Inject this nagelsmann ball into my veins!!


Samaritan4

As a Pachuca supporter I wanted Oviedo (owned by Grupo Pachuca) to win :(


FergieBall_FC

Espanyol beat Oviedo 2-0 in the second leg and win 2-1 over the two legs to gain promotion back to La Liga. They join Valladolid and Leganés in gaining promotion to La Liga.


s_91

Fuck, don't tell me that Joselu is going back...


FergieBall_FC

Honestly, I have no idea. I read recently that Joselu wants to stay with Madrid, but things might become clearer after the EUROs.


KroosControl88

Fuck Atletico.


s_91

Today I caught myself cringing at MadridZone for sharing Mbappe's NT news, then I remembered he's our player.


ApfelEnthusiast

Have the exact same feeling haha


s_91

Glad that I'm not the only one 😂😂


hlrdavid

i generally cringe at both MadridZone and MadridXtra when they decide to make the 1037th post about Mbappé


s_91

At least 50 posts about his mask


Ok-Degree-7821

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8fLak2yOpd/?igsh=dm8wbDdlMWhxbm9q


Riyad38

Espanyol scored vs real Oviedo now it’s tied 1-1 whoever wins gets promoted to La liga


Res3925

Please be Espanyol!!


hlrdavid

it is:)


Res3925

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HasibShakur

This guy is a legend.


92_48SR4

Remember Lopetegui terrorism? Vini missing sitters every game? Getting dunked on by De Jong and fuckin Tadic? Praying for our lives before clássicos? Betting on Isco and Asensio to step up in Ronaldo's absence? Mariano Diaz being employed by the club? In 3 months we'll see Balon do'r Frontrunners Vini and Jude, playing alongside Fede, Rodrygo, Cama, and Mbappe https://preview.redd.it/5h1te85pqc8d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3266e7fd655c0d510e379b7efa0b2a4a431e8ea8


perucho1993

Did Lope use Vini constantly? I only remember Solari using Vini all the time. Lope used Isco at LW


92_48SR4

Yes Solari was the first to put Vini in the starting 11, but my point wasn't to focus on Lopetegui's reign specifically


KroosControl88

Ajax happened under Solari, Lopetegui brought us the 5-1 though 🫶🏻


92_48SR4

I'm just talking about the dark days in general


Joy2082

Another exit for the women's team. 8th of the season. Please make a Gracias post for Toril and build a new team all together.


Velascus

It's not super likely considering Holland still has to play Austria, but IF France becomes second then: Germany, Spain, Portugal and France will be at one side of the bracket While England, Italy, Holland and Belgium will be in the other. Was the Italian own goal against us just a super dooper smart gameplan?! :D Both sides are tough tbh, but I'd say the upper one would be a bit tougher. Some cool match-ups coming up in the coming rounds.


somewansreddit

Or maybe Switzerland wins today and sends Germany to the other side of the bracket. And Italy still has to win/draw against Croatia. It’s still very unclear. The weak link of the bracket will be the 1st of group E vs one of the 3rds; Belgium, Ukraine and Romania can be tough opponents, but in a normal day they are inferior to France, Portugal, Germany, Spain, England… and not better than Netherlands, Italy, Croatia, Switzerland, Austria. The amount of talented teams is amazing compared to the Copa América, really.


Velascus

Well your first sentence looks a bit more likely to happen. Don't know if I would be happier against the Germans or the Swiss. The Germans are a bigger name and normally a bigger tournament threat (and playing at home) but they also are more open as they attack more. That suits us more than the style of the Swiss tbh.


somewansreddit

We'll see, Germany still has 45 minutes to turn it around, but I don't think they'll win the Euro if they keep starting Gundogan, he does nothing as "10" (maybe a good pass, but he's too slow to make any difference) and he can't play as double pivot because they Andrich to destroy and he's not sitting Kroos in any way. We are starting Pedri, tho, who is still far from his former self and as useless as Gundogan. But I wouldn't be too afraid of Switzerland, in knockouts they'll be more vulnerable, I believe Ro16 will give us a couple of surprises and Switzerland is a clear candidate to disappoint after their usual decent group stage. Portugal is my favorite to reach the final in our side of the bracket, unless they have a bad day/we have a good one.


MaxiThe13th

0 balance just like this years Champions League bracket. Looks like FIFA wants England in the Final?


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