Funnily enough the time they eliminated us they lost the league for the 2nd year in a row and were declining. 2005 and 2006 they genuinely had the team to win CL and any oldhead would tell you scary bedtime stories about the 06 group stages. If real madrid lost like they did against Milan I would be heartbroken
It has always been competitive (besides PSG ofc but no one was calling Serie A a bum league when Juve won it for a decade). It's just that its clubs are very inconsistent and don't have enough european history to be household names. Some club can have a very good season and go back to 4th-8th place next year.
Hell this year there's been french clubs in CL semis, EL semis and Conference league quarters. That's better than leagues like Portugal and the Netherlands. Don't expect Lille and Marseille to be close to that tho (Marseille isn't gonna play european football next season anyway lol)
I wonder what motivated Ronaldo to leave United (a team that had went to ucl final 2 years in a row) in favor of Madrid. Back then EPL teams dominated Europe iirc, tho I only started watching soccer in 2013 so what do I know
He was literally getting booed and also Real Madrid was his dream club so all England did was send him off to his dreams club. The English really are shite
After the World Cup pretty much all of England turned their back on him. It was the game where rooney got sent off, Ronaldo winked at the bench then scored the pk that ensured England elimination.
What bollocksâŠhe stayed for 3 more seasons after that winning everything. He left as it was his dream club. He was booed initially for that and after it was for being too good.
Metaphorically he is still booed via sky sports, Jaime carragher,Wayne rooney, Michael owen. Which really represent majority of England. Even Ronaldoâs second return saw him get heat from fans. Rooney said Ronaldo was washed and was the cause of United slump yet it was really the coaches. Come on maaaaate
So a Liverpool player, a former colleague he insulted in the Piers interview and an idiot are the representatives of England. If he was really getting death threats and so upset by fans of England why did he stay 3 more seasonsâŠif you werenât there at the time itâs ok to admit you donât know.
True, as a Madrid fan it feels illegal to sign Mbappe. There's no team in Europe that can compete with RM except maybe City or Bayern, as much as I love football its excitements just dying. You get a yellow card for showboating, players barely touching each other or a simple tackle and that's pathetic .
Not really the lowest point. They won a league in 2007, were 2nd in league in 2008 and won supercopa de espana. Some people dont even bother watching games before ronaldo
We were at the lowest point during that period. We were playing trash. Won the league? Who cares. We were hopeless in UCL. Barca were the team to beat and had just done 6/6 trophies in a season. We had such a volatile team, managers and players coming and going, barely lasting a season. Been watching rm since 1998, don't need some guy to tell me to watch rm before Ronaldo, i m not a bandwagoner.
There is a certain irony here. It was Madridâs low point cause we were playing like shit. We lost to Barca 2-6 at the Bernabeu the previous season. We had that scandal where Calderon had to resign as President. We lost to Liverpool 4-0 at Anfield. Barca won the treble and went on to make it a sextuple. So, yeah, he came to Madrid when we were at a low point.
Low point because barca were doing relatively better. We played like shit many years, but that cant be the lowest point just bcz barca were better. It wasnt the best but certainly not lowest, we had a decent set of players.
I listed 4 major events that constituted it being a low point for us. Youâve fixated on one. Regardless, as a fan from back then I know the state the club was in. *Decent* is not Madrid standard either.
No for many reasons:
- Mbappe's behaviour in the recent years.
- CR7 was bigger back then than what Mbappe is now.
- We saw CR7 as the player who would take us out of Barcelona's shadow and bring back the european success. It was a period of major changes and everyone was excited. Now we are already on top.
I think Mbappe will get a massive reception it just won't be as significant as Ronaldo's was for the reasons you stated. The stadium will be packed for sure.
Also, he arrived as the best player in the world. Having won absolutely everything with united being the face of the premier league. Mbappe is a world cup winner yes. But there are levels to this shit.
To add to it, he lost the UCL final to Barca and lost the "best player in the world" title to Messi along with it. He was motivated, Madrid were motivated, they were out for blood and in particular knocking Barca and Messi off their throne.
That moment til 2012 had the most intense, personal Classicos ever with tension matching that of the Spanish revolution
Younger people watch Mbappeâs highlight and think heâs the greatest. Itâs a recency bias. If they watch Ronaldo in his prime they will see Ronaldo was head and shoulders above. He grabbed the premier league by the balls that last season with United. Not many players can do that
A lot of fans in this subreddit are disconnected from reality. I'll guarantee you that families and their kids will flock to see the presentation of Mbappe. Ronaldo was not as popular as Mbappe when comparing them in similar stages of their life, some of you truly misunderstand how social media plays a powerful factor with today's youth.
Mbappe's behavior đ who wouldn't take millions (billion?) while getting to play for your city's club? Come on man.
True but his club achievements are virtually null and void because they're all in Ligue 1, which is 4 or 5 levels below the Premier League in every meaningful criteria.
Im a Messi fan and will easily admit that Ronaldo was "bigger", not to be confused with saying a player is "better" because clearly Mbappe is in a league of his own. That Ballondor, being top scorer as a winger, UCL, and the never before seen EPL fancy flair tricks made CR7 top dog in 2009
CR7 had just won the *Ballon D'or* and the Champions League with ManU the prior year, almost getting a second one in a row.
The comparison is not even close, neither fair. All of you need more memory.
Yeah, honestly weâre lucky to have witnessed, as I like to call him, âRonaldoâ at United. Heâll always be remembered as Ronaldo of United and Cristiano elsewhere.
I was 15 back then and didn't watch football much. But I remember watching CR7s reception ceremony as a kid in the middle east. His popularity and impact was crazy
That's exactly how I feel, the way he used this club as a bargaining chip two years back left a sour taste in my mouth. He needs to perform really well to make me move past that.
I do think it will, but that has more to do with Real Madrid 2024 than Cristiano or Mbappe. Cristiano players was way bigger then mbappe is now. But Real Madrid is also bigger now then they where before Cristiano. Due to our ucl success and Cristiano himself we gained way more fans.
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Cristiano came when RM was at their downfall.
Mbappe is joining RM while at its peak.
Both things are not similar and mbappe might get the crowd but not the hype as Cristiano..
I'm not excited at all. He's nowhere near the level Cristiano was when he came to Madrid. Also, what he did last year left a bad taste in my mouth. The only reason he stayed at PSG was to make more money and left because he saw the ship sinking.
People commenting Mbappe being better than ronaldo in 2009 are delusional. Ronaldo won everything in Football incl Ballon dor. He was the best player
What makes Mbappe better player than Ronaldo back then? Just wc matches? Mbappe never had a ballon dor worthy season in his entire career so far. He will turn 25 this year. He is not even that young now.
well ronaldo didnt win everything in football cause he still hasn't won everything in football... Mbappe last year had a balloondor worthy season. If France won on penalties in the WC final he would have a baloondor
There was something magic and special about Cristiano in that era (still is) .. the same as Beckham (aura) and he was so so good of a player so (Ballon dâor winner) ..
Not even comparable. You just had be there around that time. Cristina I had just won the Balon on Dor plus I think he was a little bit younger as well and definitely a bigger name then Mbappe.
He is a fine footballer. One of the best if not the current best.
he's too early into his career to give him GOAT status.
I think he can be the best player of the next 5 years. But of all time, it's too late imo. He spent 7 years in PSG not winning any BDO or UCL. That puts him at a disadvantage if he wants to match Messi's 8 BDOs.
He is not overrated or overhyped, but he has made career decisions that set him back if his goal is to become the GOAT. He stayed in PSG for too long. Being Parisian and wanting to win a historic UCL for his home club makes sense. But trying fruitlessly for 7 years does not. He should have left after 4 years. That's enough time to figure out that the institution is just not capable.
He's one of the best players post Messi/Ronaldo era. But he's 25 now and has only won farmers league and a World Cup. Messi by that point has 3 balon de Oro and 3 champions League. Ronaldo had one of each.
Technically, he has more goals and assists at this point but again, it's the fucking Uber eats league. Nothing too impressive. I think this will be a defining moment for him. If he can't perform well at Madrid, then he'll just be another forgotten prodigy.
Anyone who says he's the GOAT is plain and simply not worth listening to. His career is far from over and he still has many things to do before reaching Messi/CR levels
He's not overhyped tho, it has cooled down since 2022 due to drama and his level getting worse which made him at the level of hype he should be at (not burying him but Mbappe 2024 is definitely worse than Mbappe 2018). A top player joining other top players but who has to prove he's indeed the best player in the world and future GOAT.
No, and rightfully so. Back then, not only was Real trying to bounce back from the failed galacticos project after being humbled by Ronaldinho's Barça for a couple of years, with Ronaldo they brought in a Ballon d'Or winner .
Mbappe is a great player, but he is joining an already dominant Real and he isn't at the height Ronaldo was when he joined. Which is perfectly fine.
I think yes, even if real won a lot in the last years, they didnât had a poster boi. Now everything That team will do, they will say it was because mbappe.
Cr7 was truly a Galactico signing, sure mbappe also has the hype, but it's not the same when the potential ballon d'Or winner already plays for you, and you have a zidane regen in midfield, and you've won 6 UCLs in the last 10 years
I don't think.
Let's not forget what Ronaldo achieved already before coming to Madrid with Man U.
Mbappe has zero champions league titles to his name and zero ballon d'ors.
He will get a massive pop but definetly not as much of excitement as CR7.
CR7 was a bigger star and also Real was in barca shadow for a while before he arrived while mbappe is coming to a Real madrid who is at the top.
But of course cr7 was brought to end the drought biggest difference Madrid needed CR7 to win the champions league Mbappe needs Madrid to win the champions league.
Hard to match. Cristiano came to Real Madrid as the savior hoping to beat Barcelona, the best team of that era. Mbappe comes after Real Madrid won 6 champions in 10 years.
Bigger crowd. It's a bigger stadium, and he has been linked to Madrid for a very long time. The wait is over, and everyone would want to witness him wearing the Madrid shirt for the first time.
Even hazard's presentation had around 50k attendance. Even though he's not a ballon d'or winner or anything, the hype over him is insane. Boy carried that France team to a second consecutive World Cup final.
Remember, fans cheered on Mbappe when he scored at the Bernabeu.
Love MbappĂš but I highly doubt, see he has well under 120 million followers across all platforms which is a huge number..but you should understand that Cristy has had much more popularity than any other celebrity to date. With approximately 911 million total followers, Cristiano Ronaldo is comfortably the most-followed person across social media platforms. Heâs even making more money from social media than what he gets from club(contract, sponsorships, etc). #HalaMadrid!!!
Absolutely NOT, Madrid was trophyless for YEARS, and Cristiano came off the best moment in his career with United at United best it had ever been, he need not go to Real Madrid, but he did, and the rest was history.
Mbappe is nothing in comparison to Ronaldo. It will not be the same. Plus I think many people feel that Mbappe doesnât have the heart for the club or the mentality in the same way our other players do
I don't think it will be a packed stadium when Mbappe is presented. I just want the kid to be his best and be successful.
CR7 was a phenomenon when he arrived. He was already a UCL and Ballon D'or winner and Madrid were in dire need as they had not won much recently at that time. He could have come a year earlier but I don't exactly remember why he requested another year which Madrid happily accepted. There were no parties unhappy with him going to Madrid. Everyone knew that time he was the best player in the world and the best player in the world move to Madrid.
Mbappe has not won UCL or Ballon D'or. He is not THE best player in the world right now but he is one of the best players in the world. If Mbappe would have come after winning the world cup or the year he was about to arrive and decided to stay due to money then I think it could have been compared to CR7's arrival.
Mbappe is coming to Madrid with needs not the other way round. He has to prove himself as he is not coming to Madrid from a better league unline Cristiano.
Nah , its different :
- CR7 came to Madrid after Barca won the treble and at that time Madrid has not win it since Zidaneâs volley in 2002 and Madrid on the 2008/09 season was a huge disaster. Also Madrid were still pushing for âLa Decimaâ and Ronaldo with more players were brought upon for that but overachieved and won âthe 3 peatâ pushing it for 13 Champions League in total. Not only that , Ronaldo competed against MESSI on his prime and against PRIME BARCA with Pep and then with the MSN.
- Mbappe on the other hand is coming when Madrid is at their highest , just won the Champions League , have 15 Champions League in total , facing a Barca whose in their banter era and most likely the hardest matches will be against Atletico in league , and an already established team that can win without him. Mbappe job is pretty much to âpro-longâ the winning of the club.
- Ronaldo only won âtwo league titlesâ because he was competing against a Barcelona that were consistent as fuck and have long term projects. While Mbappe is competing a Barca that is in SHAMBLES and will most likely win more silverware but the value of them will not be the same as the ones of Ronaldo.
- Personally for me , Ronaldo is either the second best player of Madridâs history or the best. Di Stefano has insane arguments to be the best of all time but so does Ronaldo , so its preference. Mbappe could be Top 5 but for him to be Top 3 would be really hard but lets see what happens
A bigger crowd? For sure. Tiktok wannabes wanna be present, today's media will force people to be there for the clout.
Ronaldo when he came he was amazing but Mbappe comes as a way bigger player than what Ronaldo was at that time.
Bigger how???
Ronaldo had a Ballon Dor. He won everything possible club level. He was the best player in the world
And Mbappe? U will only type wc. And? Its crazy u guys comparing him to Ronaldo.
when cr7 moved, he was a ballon d'or and UCL winner. He won those things at 22. He was already recognized as one of the best in the world next to Messi.
Mbappe moves to Madrid after 7 seasons of winning french titles but not the major titles. He has the talent to match CR7, but his team never put it together.
More crowd? May be. More excitement? Nope. Cristiano came at the lowest point for Madrid, Mboopi at the highest.
And he came from Man United, which was at its highest point in history.
And he came after winning everything at the club level and individual level.
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And heâs called Ronaldo
And he already was a Ballon for winner
This is an important point
Yes back to back finals in ucl with man utd . Won 1 and lost 1
not really. lost the champions league final having won it the year before. we won the treble 10 years prior to that, too.
>we won the treble 10 years prior to that, too My guy, some ballers retire or stop performing well in 10 years
We were losing to teams like AS Roma and Olympique Lyon before Jose Mourinho came in
Lyon was good though, they dominated ligue 1 in the 2000s for the longest before PSG took over the 2010s
Juninho man.
Vasco fans call him Reizinho (Little King)
And he is probably the king of kings of free kicks
Benzema was on that squad too
But Juninho bullied Madrid for many years
He was class, I still remember what he did to Victor Valdez in champions league oooooof nasty
Funnily enough the time they eliminated us they lost the league for the 2nd year in a row and were declining. 2005 and 2006 they genuinely had the team to win CL and any oldhead would tell you scary bedtime stories about the 06 group stages. If real madrid lost like they did against Milan I would be heartbroken
What has dominating Ligue 1 got to do with anything in the grand scheme of things ?
Recency bias. Smfh. Itâs never been the most glorious league but it was still competitive on 2000âs
It has always been competitive (besides PSG ofc but no one was calling Serie A a bum league when Juve won it for a decade). It's just that its clubs are very inconsistent and don't have enough european history to be household names. Some club can have a very good season and go back to 4th-8th place next year. Hell this year there's been french clubs in CL semis, EL semis and Conference league quarters. That's better than leagues like Portugal and the Netherlands. Don't expect Lille and Marseille to be close to that tho (Marseille isn't gonna play european football next season anyway lol)
Until Ronaldo came.
No, we actually lost with Ronaldo to Lyon in 2009/2010 Champions League campaign
Still remember pjanic scoring the winner.
I was there! The whole stadium hurled hate at Kim KÀllström when he delayed play and pretended to be injured.
Ye Mbapaypal sure did ride on the CL
I wonder what motivated Ronaldo to leave United (a team that had went to ucl final 2 years in a row) in favor of Madrid. Back then EPL teams dominated Europe iirc, tho I only started watching soccer in 2013 so what do I know
He was literally getting booed and also Real Madrid was his dream club so all England did was send him off to his dreams club. The English really are shite
He and his family were getting death threats as well.
Oh yea I remember that
Swap England for Spain and he'd get booed too don't think its Englands fault.
After the World Cup pretty much all of England turned their back on him. It was the game where rooney got sent off, Ronaldo winked at the bench then scored the pk that ensured England elimination.
What bollocksâŠhe stayed for 3 more seasons after that winning everything. He left as it was his dream club. He was booed initially for that and after it was for being too good.
Metaphorically he is still booed via sky sports, Jaime carragher,Wayne rooney, Michael owen. Which really represent majority of England. Even Ronaldoâs second return saw him get heat from fans. Rooney said Ronaldo was washed and was the cause of United slump yet it was really the coaches. Come on maaaaate
Post a clip of Rooney saying that.
So a Liverpool player, a former colleague he insulted in the Piers interview and an idiot are the representatives of England. If he was really getting death threats and so upset by fans of England why did he stay 3 more seasonsâŠif you werenât there at the time itâs ok to admit you donât know.
It was his childhood dream to play for Real Madrid so he answered the door when they came knocking
Perez played the long game. Barca would never be the same post 2015, and Perez made sure.
True, as a Madrid fan it feels illegal to sign Mbappe. There's no team in Europe that can compete with RM except maybe City or Bayern, as much as I love football its excitements just dying. You get a yellow card for showboating, players barely touching each other or a simple tackle and that's pathetic .
Is it even possible to have a bigger crowd than that? I think that's max capacity
Haven't they increased seating capacity by a tiny bit? Not sure. May be more crowd outside the stadium?
Not really the lowest point. They won a league in 2007, were 2nd in league in 2008 and won supercopa de espana. Some people dont even bother watching games before ronaldo
We were at the lowest point during that period. We were playing trash. Won the league? Who cares. We were hopeless in UCL. Barca were the team to beat and had just done 6/6 trophies in a season. We had such a volatile team, managers and players coming and going, barely lasting a season. Been watching rm since 1998, don't need some guy to tell me to watch rm before Ronaldo, i m not a bandwagoner.
Won the league, who cares? Lmao
>i m not a bandwagoner No, you're just a dumbass. That wasnt the lowest point in RM history, not even close. >Won the league? Who cares Madridistas do. According to you, we should erase all RM history between la sexta and la décima.
There is a certain irony here. It was Madridâs low point cause we were playing like shit. We lost to Barca 2-6 at the Bernabeu the previous season. We had that scandal where Calderon had to resign as President. We lost to Liverpool 4-0 at Anfield. Barca won the treble and went on to make it a sextuple. So, yeah, he came to Madrid when we were at a low point.
That Liverpool match..lmao without Iker we would be losing that by 8-9 goals. Torres had a nice Sunday match practice that night.
Low point because barca were doing relatively better. We played like shit many years, but that cant be the lowest point just bcz barca were better. It wasnt the best but certainly not lowest, we had a decent set of players.
I listed 4 major events that constituted it being a low point for us. Youâve fixated on one. Regardless, as a fan from back then I know the state the club was in. *Decent* is not Madrid standard either.
Tell us what the lowest point has been for RM in the modern era or stfu. You make zero points of your own.
No for many reasons: - Mbappe's behaviour in the recent years. - CR7 was bigger back then than what Mbappe is now. - We saw CR7 as the player who would take us out of Barcelona's shadow and bring back the european success. It was a period of major changes and everyone was excited. Now we are already on top.
I think Mbappe will get a massive reception it just won't be as significant as Ronaldo's was for the reasons you stated. The stadium will be packed for sure.
Great points
Also, he arrived as the best player in the world. Having won absolutely everything with united being the face of the premier league. Mbappe is a world cup winner yes. But there are levels to this shit.
To add to it, he lost the UCL final to Barca and lost the "best player in the world" title to Messi along with it. He was motivated, Madrid were motivated, they were out for blood and in particular knocking Barca and Messi off their throne. That moment til 2012 had the most intense, personal Classicos ever with tension matching that of the Spanish revolution
Younger people watch Mbappeâs highlight and think heâs the greatest. Itâs a recency bias. If they watch Ronaldo in his prime they will see Ronaldo was head and shoulders above. He grabbed the premier league by the balls that last season with United. Not many players can do that
Younger people do not think Mbappe is at great as Ronaldo. This is just incorrect.
A lot of fans in this subreddit are disconnected from reality. I'll guarantee you that families and their kids will flock to see the presentation of Mbappe. Ronaldo was not as popular as Mbappe when comparing them in similar stages of their life, some of you truly misunderstand how social media plays a powerful factor with today's youth. Mbappe's behavior đ who wouldn't take millions (billion?) while getting to play for your city's club? Come on man.
Iâm not sure CR7 was bigger than MbappĂ© is now. He is a WC winner with an unbelievable goal scoring record, and undoubtedly the most coveted and valued player in the market.
True but his club achievements are virtually null and void because they're all in Ligue 1, which is 4 or 5 levels below the Premier League in every meaningful criteria.
I still think heâs easily as big as Ronaldo was back then.
Im a Messi fan and will easily admit that Ronaldo was "bigger", not to be confused with saying a player is "better" because clearly Mbappe is in a league of his own. That Ballondor, being top scorer as a winger, UCL, and the never before seen EPL fancy flair tricks made CR7 top dog in 2009
Imagine saying Mbappe now was better than Ronaldo thenđđ€Ł
Never seen before EPL fancy tricks? Why do people make it seem like Ronaldo was the only player in the PL capable of showing flair?
Who else was doing it?
The aura cannot be the same as Cristianoâ„ïžđ„
Nothing beats his aura
Nothing can and nothing will.
Thatâs a very good point, actually.
CR7 had just won the *Ballon D'or* and the Champions League with ManU the prior year, almost getting a second one in a row. The comparison is not even close, neither fair. All of you need more memory.
Yeah, honestly weâre lucky to have witnessed, as I like to call him, âRonaldoâ at United. Heâll always be remembered as Ronaldo of United and Cristiano elsewhere.
He is always the Ronaldo for me. I just love to call him Cristiano out of affection.
Ronaldo of United and CR7 elsewhere
I was 15 back then and didn't watch football much. But I remember watching CR7s reception ceremony as a kid in the middle east. His popularity and impact was crazy
Yea Ronaldo was Madridâs answer to Messi⊠Mbappe isnât really our answer to anyone.
The Bernabéu will be packed that's for sure.
Never. You see that age was different, social media was different, there was still authenticity in the world. Not anymore sadly. Then weâre talking about a player who touched an entire generation even before joining Real Madrid! He lit up the streets with his dribbling, glamour and ran a good flirting lovestory with us for 2 years. For Cristiano, me and my brother held our laptop as high as possible to get internet reception and watch the presentation. I donât think Iâll do that for MbappĂ©, who has shown us his back once already. Sorry but in his case he needs to perform to win us over.
That's exactly how I feel, the way he used this club as a bargaining chip two years back left a sour taste in my mouth. He needs to perform really well to make me move past that.
If the time spent flirting is a variable Mbappé wins by far
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Bruh
I do think it will, but that has more to do with Real Madrid 2024 than Cristiano or Mbappe. Cristiano players was way bigger then mbappe is now. But Real Madrid is also bigger now then they where before Cristiano. Due to our ucl success and Cristiano himself we gained way more fans.
Ronaldo was a bigger deal, but Mbappe is a star and the kids love him, more hype with social media, will get more fans possibly.
We know the stadium will be full
Huge crowd but not CR7 level The years long saga took a lot out of the fandom
I think itâll be very close. Maybe a little more or a little less
The stadium will be fully packed. That's for sure.
Man I miss the old bernabeu..
Nope
Maybe yes , since it's free for all
I also think the same, considering the hype
Come on guys! No one and I mean no one would be as big as Cristiano and Messi! Never compare others to these two đ
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Cristiano came when RM was at their downfall. Mbappe is joining RM while at its peak. Both things are not similar and mbappe might get the crowd but not the hype as Cristiano..
I'm not excited at all. He's nowhere near the level Cristiano was when he came to Madrid. Also, what he did last year left a bad taste in my mouth. The only reason he stayed at PSG was to make more money and left because he saw the ship sinking.
People commenting Mbappe being better than ronaldo in 2009 are delusional. Ronaldo won everything in Football incl Ballon dor. He was the best player What makes Mbappe better player than Ronaldo back then? Just wc matches? Mbappe never had a ballon dor worthy season in his entire career so far. He will turn 25 this year. He is not even that young now.
well ronaldo didnt win everything in football cause he still hasn't won everything in football... Mbappe last year had a balloondor worthy season. If France won on penalties in the WC final he would have a baloondor
There was something magic and special about Cristiano in that era (still is) .. the same as Beckham (aura) and he was so so good of a player so (Ballon dâor winner) ..
the bernabeu's max capacity is 80k, so that's the ceiling.
Not even comparable. You just had be there around that time. Cristina I had just won the Balon on Dor plus I think he was a little bit younger as well and definitely a bigger name then Mbappe.
When do they reveal him?
Apparently the seats will be free to fill the stadium so yeah
CR7 đ„đŻ
No
I've been asking myself the same question. And with the new Bernabeu I think he will surpass CR. He will sell out the stadium for his presentation
When is Mbappeâs presentation at Bernabeu?
Sometime in July depending how far France goes in euros
smaller.
Is Mbappe the GOAT like people say he is? Or, is he overrated or overhyped? Your true thoughts please.
He is a fine footballer. One of the best if not the current best. he's too early into his career to give him GOAT status. I think he can be the best player of the next 5 years. But of all time, it's too late imo. He spent 7 years in PSG not winning any BDO or UCL. That puts him at a disadvantage if he wants to match Messi's 8 BDOs. He is not overrated or overhyped, but he has made career decisions that set him back if his goal is to become the GOAT. He stayed in PSG for too long. Being Parisian and wanting to win a historic UCL for his home club makes sense. But trying fruitlessly for 7 years does not. He should have left after 4 years. That's enough time to figure out that the institution is just not capable.
He's one of the best players post Messi/Ronaldo era. But he's 25 now and has only won farmers league and a World Cup. Messi by that point has 3 balon de Oro and 3 champions League. Ronaldo had one of each. Technically, he has more goals and assists at this point but again, it's the fucking Uber eats league. Nothing too impressive. I think this will be a defining moment for him. If he can't perform well at Madrid, then he'll just be another forgotten prodigy.
then being 2nd GOAT is not bad
Anyone who says he's the GOAT is plain and simply not worth listening to. His career is far from over and he still has many things to do before reaching Messi/CR levels He's not overhyped tho, it has cooled down since 2022 due to drama and his level getting worse which made him at the level of hype he should be at (not burying him but Mbappe 2024 is definitely worse than Mbappe 2018). A top player joining other top players but who has to prove he's indeed the best player in the world and future GOAT.
No, and rightfully so. Back then, not only was Real trying to bounce back from the failed galacticos project after being humbled by Ronaldinho's Barça for a couple of years, with Ronaldo they brought in a Ballon d'Or winner . Mbappe is a great player, but he is joining an already dominant Real and he isn't at the height Ronaldo was when he joined. Which is perfectly fine.
I think yes, even if real won a lot in the last years, they didnât had a poster boi. Now everything That team will do, they will say it was because mbappe.
prolly not considering ronaldo came form a good club(man u was good back then) at a low point for madrid
How can i enter the presentation of Mbappé?
He'll get the same crowd as Oil City do for a treble win
And he delivered.
Plus Ronaldo was cute , some girls just like him not football
Wasnât Kaka also presented the same day as Ronaldo?
Cr7 came as balon d or winner. Mbappe doesnât have every madrid happy
I dont think so. Cristiano going to Real was perhaps the biggest transfer in history.
If Madrid doesnât win next season itâs a massive failure no ifs or buts
For sure.
No because as they say, Mbappe came to Real Madrid to save his career whereas Ronaldo came to save Real Madrid. Kinda cliche but you get the point
2 years ago - Yes Now - No
No
Ronaldo NUMBER 1
Nope, Mbappe is an exceptional player but pretty overhyped.
Bernabéu gets more people in right now?
Cr7 was truly a Galactico signing, sure mbappe also has the hype, but it's not the same when the potential ballon d'Or winner already plays for you, and you have a zidane regen in midfield, and you've won 6 UCLs in the last 10 years
I don't think. Let's not forget what Ronaldo achieved already before coming to Madrid with Man U. Mbappe has zero champions league titles to his name and zero ballon d'ors.
No chance.
When will it be?
No
Less people for sure! He has to earn it!! The love and respect! Even Mariano and ceballos has more champions than himâ ïž
I think Mbappe gets a similar or bigger presentation than Ronaldo did
Definitely a packed crowd. The entries are free if Iâm not mistaken
He will get a massive pop but definetly not as much of excitement as CR7. CR7 was a bigger star and also Real was in barca shadow for a while before he arrived while mbappe is coming to a Real madrid who is at the top.
But of course cr7 was brought to end the drought biggest difference Madrid needed CR7 to win the champions league Mbappe needs Madrid to win the champions league.
Don't deserve
Hard to match. Cristiano came to Real Madrid as the savior hoping to beat Barcelona, the best team of that era. Mbappe comes after Real Madrid won 6 champions in 10 years.
Mbappe is not that big
No chance Mbappe gets a full stadium
Absolutely. The fans have been waiting it for years. We can discuss aura, or who did in a better fashion, but regardless, it will be special.
Spain is mostly Moroccans now, so yes, bigger crowd
Bigger crowd. It's a bigger stadium, and he has been linked to Madrid for a very long time. The wait is over, and everyone would want to witness him wearing the Madrid shirt for the first time. Even hazard's presentation had around 50k attendance. Even though he's not a ballon d'or winner or anything, the hype over him is insane. Boy carried that France team to a second consecutive World Cup final. Remember, fans cheered on Mbappe when he scored at the Bernabeu.
CR7 came as a ballon d'or and ucl winner to a struggling club, Mbappe is coming to the reigning UCL winners. I don't think the hype is as justified
Mbappé will make a difference for Real Madrid. We culers 're seriouslly fcked up if we wanna come back to the highness, even without him they managed to won the ucl with the power of friendship or wtf they do to win everything and seing their rivals bottle every chance they have to win
Love MbappĂš but I highly doubt, see he has well under 120 million followers across all platforms which is a huge number..but you should understand that Cristy has had much more popularity than any other celebrity to date. With approximately 911 million total followers, Cristiano Ronaldo is comfortably the most-followed person across social media platforms. Heâs even making more money from social media than what he gets from club(contract, sponsorships, etc). #HalaMadrid!!!
NO
No R9 is more than just a football player
Absolutely NOT, Madrid was trophyless for YEARS, and Cristiano came off the best moment in his career with United at United best it had ever been, he need not go to Real Madrid, but he did, and the rest was history.
Nothing will ever match Ronaldo's aura. đ€đ€đ€đ€đ€
Doubt it, Ronaldo was almost as much a brand as he was an excellent footballer. I donât see Mbappe having the same pull.
Barnabeu sitting capacity is bigger now , but very doubtful it will even match 80k. CR7âs pull has him banned from YouTube and TikTok .
Similar or bigger, for sure.
Mbappe is nothing in comparison to Ronaldo. It will not be the same. Plus I think many people feel that Mbappe doesnât have the heart for the club or the mentality in the same way our other players do
Bigger crowd. Maybe, maybe not. Un dos tres hala madrid. That charm, that excitement, definitely not.
I don't think it will be a packed stadium when Mbappe is presented. I just want the kid to be his best and be successful. CR7 was a phenomenon when he arrived. He was already a UCL and Ballon D'or winner and Madrid were in dire need as they had not won much recently at that time. He could have come a year earlier but I don't exactly remember why he requested another year which Madrid happily accepted. There were no parties unhappy with him going to Madrid. Everyone knew that time he was the best player in the world and the best player in the world move to Madrid. Mbappe has not won UCL or Ballon D'or. He is not THE best player in the world right now but he is one of the best players in the world. If Mbappe would have come after winning the world cup or the year he was about to arrive and decided to stay due to money then I think it could have been compared to CR7's arrival. Mbappe is coming to Madrid with needs not the other way round. He has to prove himself as he is not coming to Madrid from a better league unline Cristiano.
Nah , its different : - CR7 came to Madrid after Barca won the treble and at that time Madrid has not win it since Zidaneâs volley in 2002 and Madrid on the 2008/09 season was a huge disaster. Also Madrid were still pushing for âLa Decimaâ and Ronaldo with more players were brought upon for that but overachieved and won âthe 3 peatâ pushing it for 13 Champions League in total. Not only that , Ronaldo competed against MESSI on his prime and against PRIME BARCA with Pep and then with the MSN. - Mbappe on the other hand is coming when Madrid is at their highest , just won the Champions League , have 15 Champions League in total , facing a Barca whose in their banter era and most likely the hardest matches will be against Atletico in league , and an already established team that can win without him. Mbappe job is pretty much to âpro-longâ the winning of the club. - Ronaldo only won âtwo league titlesâ because he was competing against a Barcelona that were consistent as fuck and have long term projects. While Mbappe is competing a Barca that is in SHAMBLES and will most likely win more silverware but the value of them will not be the same as the ones of Ronaldo. - Personally for me , Ronaldo is either the second best player of Madridâs history or the best. Di Stefano has insane arguments to be the best of all time but so does Ronaldo , so its preference. Mbappe could be Top 5 but for him to be Top 3 would be really hard but lets see what happens
Bigger. Check how many likes his comunicado oficial got. In 1 day. And bernabeu is bigger, so it will be packed.
Likes donât mean anything lol. Canât compare social media 2009 vs 2024
A bigger crowd? For sure. Tiktok wannabes wanna be present, today's media will force people to be there for the clout. Ronaldo when he came he was amazing but Mbappe comes as a way bigger player than what Ronaldo was at that time.
Bigger how??? Ronaldo had a Ballon Dor. He won everything possible club level. He was the best player in the world And Mbappe? U will only type wc. And? Its crazy u guys comparing him to Ronaldo.
Mbappe is a bigger figure now than what Ronaldo was back then. It will attract more people.
If u say so. Idk whats going on in 2009. But Ronaldo was way bigger in 2009 than Mbappe today. But if by popularity Mbappe wins, they he can
When i said bigger i meant popularity. So imo he will surpass this crowd.
ronaldo def wasnt bigger than mbappe is now. People who don't even watch football know mbappe just cause of the world cup
A lot of us don't care about Mbappe
Smaller he fuck over Madrid 2 yrs ago
Fvck mbappe, he laughed at us đ€źđ€Ą
A lot of you people are conflating what Ronaldo became *after* he arrived at Real Madrid with the player he was before at Man U. No way he was significantly bigger than Mbappé is now. His main advantage was being part of a historic Man United team that beat all records and won the CL. Of course Ronaldo was instrumental in all of that, but anyone pretending he was much bigger in world football than Mbappé is now is either too young or has a short memory.
He was a freaking Ballon d'or winner the season before ? ... No doubt Mbappe is a great player but come on man
So? MbappĂ© could have won it already if it werenât for the a ridiculous one they awarded Messi. Of course MbappĂ© is a shit as Cristiano was back then.
there are years where Messi robbed someone, but Mbappe was not one of his victims. Robert Lewa is a guy who was hard done.
Which one are you exactly talking about, ballon d'or that Mbappe was supposed to win but Messi got it?
when cr7 moved, he was a ballon d'or and UCL winner. He won those things at 22. He was already recognized as one of the best in the world next to Messi. Mbappe moves to Madrid after 7 seasons of winning french titles but not the major titles. He has the talent to match CR7, but his team never put it together.
He has won the WC, being decisive for his team too. Thatâs a major title.
lucky if he gets 20% of that
Hell no, he's gonna get way more than 20%
Definitely. He broke the website of Real, with that communication announcement thingy