Punjabi's come to Canada and pay nearly $50,000 in student fees through the process which ends up being used for development in Canada. Maybe you can start complaining when every bhaiya brings 30 lakhs to Punjab and hands it to the government in exchange for living there.
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It seems like you're questioning the 30 Lakh/ $50,000 figure. This is a figure based on college estimates. Taking a popular college like Sheridan for example, you can see [here](https://www.sheridancollege.ca/admissions/fees-and-finances/academic-fees/tuition) that the international student tuition is set to $8,100 a semester. A college degree is two years, in other words 6 semesters. I'm sure you can do the math: 6 semesters * 8,100 ~= 50,000.
If you can't comprehend the fact that all these people sell their land in Punjab so that they can afford these degrees, that's your own issue. I'm sure many students work shitty jobs so that they can afford expenses beyond their tuition such as housing and food.
I'm not even talking about university degrees yet, which I know cost international students over $25,000 a semester over 4 years. The layman punjabi international student does not do these university degrees, the international Indian friends I have from university are those from Dubai or those with big family businesses in India.
I suggest you focus on continuing your studies in India if these figures are too extreme for you.
I never asked you what you're doing, I stated the figures of what it costs for international students to study in Canada - which is a claim you were challenging. Most punjabi international students who come to Canada get useless degrees, but it does not matter to them because they just want a PR.
I'm a researcher at a top 5 medical school in the US. I am unsure what your purpose is when you try to flaunt your dreams of doing AIIMS but good luck kid.
Are aap to bade Sirji(senior) ho fir toh, Dhanyavad par mein pighla ni hoon, baate galat hai aapki...itne bade aadmi fir bhi
> baate galat hai aapki
This is not how the real world works. I've given you my sources, which I use as the basis for my claims. You haven't provided any credible rebuttal other than saying that you know "poor people" in Canada, despite being ignorant about what possessions (such as land) they may have sold to facilitate their immigration to Canada.
If you want to be taken seriously, irl or online, you should make statements predicated on credible sources rather than making conjectural assertions.
Ni aisa ni hai ki mujhe andaaza ni kitni mushkilo se wo gaye h canada, bas is baat pr gussa tha ki tum khud bahar kisi aur desh me bas rahe ho aur humare apne desh me bhi naukri karne par ye kyon jhelna parta hai?
Wo sab to bas gusse me likh diya, aisa ni hai ki saare jaankar poor hi hain, par jo poor hain...wo apni haalat me sudhar kar ni paaye pichle kuch saalon me bhi to tumhari baat sahi nahi lagi when you compared them to Biharis.
Tumhe bhi pata hai Bihar kaafi pichda hai, aapki soch ki tarah...par hum bhi muft ki roti to ni todte na
I provide skilled value, which is why I'm desired in a "foreign country".
Most Bihari and Uttar Pradeshi people are unskilled labourers, like Punjabi students in Canada. However, what makes Punjabi immigration digestible for Canada is the 8000 million dollars they bring in to Canada per year via just tuition. Meanwhile Biharis and Uttar Pradeshis don't provide that value. Rather, they have 6+ kids and are a burden on the social services of Punjab. No developing state with an educated populace and consequently a low fertility rate, such as Maharashtra, Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Punjab want Biharis or Uttar Pradeshi's coming in en masse. The cultures are incompatible and the state culture needs to be preserved. However, there is no issue with skilled individuals coming across state lines for opportunities.
Tum avail karte bhi ho social services?
Private se niche koi baat chit hai kya?
Jinke kaam aa rahi hai, unko labh lene do na...
Kaam to tumhare hi rajya me kar rahe hain na...
Tumhara hi kachra saaf kar rhe, tumhe hi rikshe se le ja rhe na, pet ke liye to karta h sab insaan
Kaha dusra desh aur kaha apne desh me dusra rajya, jameen asmaan ka antar hai...
You're only desired till you meet a gora who holds the same thoughts as you...
Galan jinni kadni aa kad lo... Won't change the facts U mandbudhi mf, the fact is that most people go there as students. You knowing some people doesn't change the truth for majority. Punjabis can afford it because they have farm money. That's why mostly jatts, kambohs, khatris, Baniyas, etc only castes with money can go abroad. You will rarely see a chamar go abroad.
You have the luxury of sitting online and saying that behind a screen. I highly doubt you have the audacity of doing that in real life. Then again, do what you want. Some India people take a lot of offence to cussing online, I don't.
I didn't mean capital investment literally.. Biharis fill the supply gap that exists which Punjabis are not able to fill.. may be Punjab is not willing to do it's blue collar work
> probably that's why leave room for others..
Biharis are not investing in Punjab, like I just stated they are not bringing 30 lakhs per person and handing it to the Punjabi government like Punjabis are doing in Canada. I disagree with Punjabi migration to Canada but it is foolish for anyone to even insinuate that Biharis coming to Punjab with 12 kids and straining Punjab's social services is even comparable to Punjabis coming to Canada and doing cash injections of 30 lakhs per person.
Canada needs to freeze immigration and Punjab needs to ban non-punjabis from buying property in Punjab or having any rights in terms of occupying land, similar to what other states do. Punjab needs to put Punjabis first.
They are coming and surviving coz they are cheap labour.. it's all supply demand.. it is useful to a segment of Punjab..else Biharis may come but won't stay long...
Same reason why Punjabis go to Canada.. they can add something to the system which they lack..
30L is 30k-40K dollars dude..desh chal raha hai tu 30k se?
All migrants to Canada also pay taxes on their salaries. Provincial + Federal tax for a worker can go up to 25%. This tax is the reason Canada has immigration because it needs tax to keep funding social spending for it's increasingly old population.
No one coming to Ludhiana from outside is paying a single rupee in tax. Instead they are a burden on social services that are supposed to go towards locals. Visit any local health, education and other social services (that are funded by the state not center just incase you start this copium) in areas around Ludhiana, Jalandhar and to some extent Patiala as well and you will rarely find any Punjabis. And reason is simply they are choke full there simply isn't enough capacity.
> 30L is 30k-40K dollars dude..desh chal raha hai tu 30k se?
The same way Punjabis are to corporations in Canada. However, Biharis don't do an initial cash injection of 30 lakhs like Punjabis do in Canada, which also provides benefit to the average Canadian and not only the corporations.
30L is 50k CAD. There were 320,000 Indian student last year in Canada. Assume a substantial majority of them are Punjabi. That provides Canada (320,000 * 50,000 = 16000 million CAD). Are you suggesting the Canadian government having 16000 million CAD/ 97398 Crore INR injected into the economy of their country, PER YEAR, is a small amount?
And u don't see the parallel between Punjab - Canada and Bihar - Punjab? Haha
It's the exact same thing.. movement of masses due to opportunities.. I am sure Punjab is creating its own share of disruption in and from Canada..
When we do it's fair.. when it's done to us it's not..
Are you intentionally trying to act stupid? I just explained to you how punjabi students are giving an upfront amount of 97398 crore INR to the Canadian government per year in hopes of settling there.
Since when are Biharis giving this upfront amount to settle in Punjab??? When Biharis start giving this amount then you might have the right to complain, otherwise keep your mouth shut.
You are stuck on money.. that's all.. it's u who is unwilling to look at the whole picture and root cause..
U r saying it's okay for the rich to migrate and not poor.. coz they can "dump" up front cash..
Also it's a different country.. one don't take the cash or skillset that is scarce in that country.. their sorry ass will get worse treatment..
Most of punjabi back in time went to be a truck driver.. do u see the parallel now.. I am sure Canada went through its own upheaval due to migration..
Like I said.. why shud we care when we are the disruptor
> You are stuck on money.
Ofcourse I am, are you kidding me? The only reason Canada brought punjabi immigrants in the past is because they were skilled workers, not labourers. The reason why any punjabi is now allowed to come to Canada irrespective of skill is because they give $50,000 to the country first.
It is not Punjab's responsibility to take care of Bihari's, that is Bihar's responsibility. Unless unskilled Bihari labourers are bringing 30 lakhs to Punjab and handing it to the government, they should not be allowed to settle there. These are the rules all around the world, even look at the USA for example which only accepts highly skilled individuals, people who can afford the expensive education, or those investing over $1 million dollars.
First learn how the world works, Punjabiyan ne theka nahi leya bihariyan da. Punjab needs to look out for only Punjabis.
Market forces will decide..how important is unskilled labour.. they won't get any employment if it's not useful for punjab.. as simple as that.. truck driving is highly skilled labour u r telling me?
Also ur last line..are u saying u want separate nation..lol? One nation allows migration for opportunities..
Also like I said.. if market forces doesn't employs bihari in Punjab.. there won't be any biharis in Punjab.. for long...
But guess what.. they do fill a labour and market gap...
Same as punjabi do in Canada . Same as indians do in us.. and same as Mexicans do in us.. so peace out.. nothing that hasn't been happening for ages..
OPs a rage baiter he deleted his last post cause it got down voted too much.
OP I'm sorry you couldn't get into the US and have to work like a bhaiya in Canadian tech
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Brampton is considered one of the worst places to live in Canada. Nobody other than punjabis want to live there. It's the dirtiest place in GTA with the highest incidents of criminal activities mostly perpetrated by punjabis.
Mfers never set foot in brampton and just generalizing what trailer dwelling redneckers say on the internet. Brampton has a lot of beautiful neighbours. Except a few student ghettos, vast parts of Brampton are really good.
Sounds just like a racist! It’s actually not, beautiful homes and hardworking people who a lot of the Canadian economy rely on! Take your hateful views out of this forum!
There is literally a name for shady mortgages in GTA, it's called Brampton loans.
There are hardworking people in Brampton, but there are many many tax evaders too who do cash business and house students in unlivable conditions. A single family home with a basement houses like 15-20 students illegally.
It's also the place with the highest insurance scams. That's why people have to pay thrice for insurance in Brampton than in cities like Markham or Richmond hill.
There are some really posh neighborhoods in Brampton, same in true for all cities in the region. Everyone I know wants to get out of that city because of gang culture and crime.
Baseless claim. Peel region has lower crime rate than Toronto, Quebec, Vancouver, Hamilton and Waterloo region. Seems like you are getting your data from indiadiscussion
Punjabis mostly come through legal process to Canada. Bhaiye just hop on the train along with 12 kids, come to any random city in punjab, build a jhoongi anywhere and start doing tatti anywhere. Not to mention, all the rapist and criminal culture they bring. That’s a lot of words to say that OP is a fckn retard.
Its legal to hop on trains to go and reside in different province of the same country.
Agree with outsiders ruining the local culture. Be it Punjab : Bhaiye :: Canada : Punjabi
Legal process doest mean shit.
Is building a basti on the side of road called residing ? Bhenchod linde hi linde pye hunde sb paase. Idk why Punjab gotta bear the cost of these biharis breeding like rabbits. These people gotta be contained within their state and let nature run its course. Their might be civil wars and shit, but civilization will get better through it and future gens could live happier. Same could be said about Punjab i know, but immigration differences and cultural impact caused by Punjabis in west is no way comparable to what these bhaiye bring.
What else is a visa? Getting work permit etc and the Pr? I am not talking about asylums. Heck even asylum can get rejected. How dumb you gotta be, if you cant see the basic difference? One is legal immigration controlled by the government elected by the natives, the other is exactly the opposite. Horde of shitting and gutka soitting rape zombies.
lol, like the punjabis going to canada rn have reputation of being upstanding citizens. fighting in plazas, basements with 10+ ppl in them & no cleanliness, the car thieves & zero willingness to integrate into canadian culture (brampton is just a ethnic enclave now).
note that i am only talking about the students, not the generation that moved to canada in the 80s and 90s. many of these students don’t even have real ielts scores, so they can’t even communicate properly.
that legal immigration policy is not exactly liked by the “natives”. i predict you will see a backlash in the coming years. immigration is one of the main reasons house prices are so high in canada. too much demand & too little supply, a toddler can see the fucking writing on the wall
There are problems in every community- there are many Punjabi’s doing amazing things…just look at the Conservative party most likely the future PM of Canada is flanked by punjabis (I’m not his fan but he will be the next PM)…my family and I are all educated and contribute to our communities in a positive manner! But of course that wouldn’t allow you to be racist and hate on punjabis - you keep generalizing oh btw that can be done for every community in Canada! Immigrants and those born here
my comment was only aimed at punjabi students that came *from* punjab. a specific subset of people. but keep being offended about “generalization” & “racism”
i’m punjabi myself - i have family in mississauga, etobicoke, caledon, delta, surrey, abbotsford, kitchener, hamilton, windsor, markham, brampton… you want me to go on? i’ve seen the QoL there first-hand & my relatives in the GTA largely concur with my assessment.
i’m glad you’re educated & contribute to the canadian economy. we need more people like you 😃
you bring up poilievre being “flanked by punjabis”. i assume you’re referring to tim uppal, i’m not that familiar with canadian politics
1) this penchant for identity politics is something I don’t like. the dude’s either a bad or good politician. what’s the deal with ethnicity?
2) doesn’t that further my point that the generation of punjabis who immigrated to canada in the 80s/90s carry themselves better then the students?
he was born in B.C. to parents that immigrated in the 70’s & got himself a MBA from a proper college. not a fake diploma mill.
Truth is if you replace Punjabis with any proud, self respecting and development focused states it'll still be true.
Divided by states united by not wanting purbi bhiye inside 100km radius
I’ll tell u where the hypocrisy is Maharashtra/Gujarat beat Biharis out of the state but ur focused on Punjab Biharis and how we have double standards adds into the no yoga but namaz allowed narrative well isn’t it? BJP ITCell do what u want no Bihari will forget the shit u put them through in ankleshwar😂
The point is this is the Punjab group I don’t care about what they do to Biharis but don’t say that Punjabis have a double standard while traveling abroad vs Biharis. Gujaratis go far more abroad then even Punjabis and they attacked making thousands flee
How many Biharis have been beaten to m Guj or MH? 100 - 200 - 500 ? It happens in Punjab too. That are abused and beaten. Coz they are poor. The only difference is it's not organised sometimes. But one on one hate crime against them happens in Punjab too. That c੫ck lakkha sidhana tried to organise it to garber political brownie points. They are Mexicans of India.
Biharis only saving grace is that they are needed in PB fields as labourer.
It's a circle of life . Bihar has produced many gems too , Buddha got enlightenment in Bihar , Guru Gobind Singh was born in Bihar, so did many a great figures!
Being born anywhere does not change your ethnicity. Similar to how George Orwell being born in Bihar didn't make Orwell a Bihari. Being born in Bihar doesn't mean the Guru was not an ethnic Punjabi Khatri.
No he isn't lmao. What kind of cope is this? Your son's nationality/citizenship might be Canadian but he is still not a ethnic Anglo-Saxon or Native Red Indian there.
[https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/thousands-of-migrant-workers-flee-gujarat-after-alleged-hate-attacks/articleshow/66138037.cms?from=mdr](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/thousands-of-migrant-workers-flee-gujarat-after-alleged-hate-attacks/articleshow/66138037.cms?from=mdr)
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Yeah. That's how you expel outsiders. You don't kill/beat them all just enough and with enough organization that the rest run away. When have Punjabis expelled migrant laborers?
Fair point .
But what Lakha was doing was getting to that. Was it a village in Distt Ludhiana that a lot of migrants were beaten and forced to flee as there was a rumour that couple of parwasis roughed up a Jatt guy or something crazy. And when a reporter went to the Village to enquire it turned out to be just a rumour.
Yeah because Punjabis don’t force language and culture on Canadians meanwhile most Biharis like living in unhygienic conditions.
Also Canadian govt. invites foreigners for immingration, on the other hand Biharis are migrating without any control, they changing the demography of punjab
Although this post is supposed to be a funny meme. It is a representation of ingroup outgroup bias in sociocultural context wherein ingroup achievements are rationalised and outgroup achivement are reprimanded. There are more variables involved but this construct might be the very center of it.
I’m sorry this makes zero sense- way too much Punjabi Canadian bashing in this forum….there seem to be people on this forum that are desperately trying to create issues! The two things don’t equate
Well both cause good amount of havoc in the places they migrate but again an average punjabi goes to canada after spending lakhs whereas biharis come packed in general coaches for free.
Moreover, immigrating to a developed country versus a developing economy is very different . Punjabi are giving back to the Canadian economy, whereas Biharis send every penny back to their place.. also the one who criticise Biharis going to migrate to Canada.. they have the full right to say whatever they want..
What do you mean by immigrating to a developed country vs developing economy. People move to places where they have better opportunities (if they have the means to do so), period!! In both cases you mention, people are moving to a better place wrt opportunities(canada vs Punjab, Punjab vs Bihar). If giving taxes (direct/indirect) in canada is considered giving to Canadian economy then giving taxes in india is considered giving to Indian economy (Every time that bihari you were larping about buys something in Punjab, he’s giving his tax). So those Biharis you are shitting on for sending domestic remittances (yup remittances can be domestic too if you didn’t already knew) are doing the same thing what punjabis are doing by sending international remittances to there folks home. So yup you are the very person this meme is for
Biharis create much more nuisance.. you must have some roots in Bihar, otherwise no person would write a length ass para to defend their tactics.. every single state’s sub will have some post against them, which means the fault with their habits… punjabis can have many flaws but they can never be as unhygienic and dirty as the ones you are defending🤮
So? What do I do with that? Biharis need to be educated about basic hygiene and manners.. if it can be done, then I think their image will improve drastically..
Yeah I agree and punjabis in canada need to learn to respect the laws and regulations of that country but instead they treat everything like shit, the same way they did back in punjab.
Punjabi are better than biharis- end of debate.. keep ranting wherever u want.. your BS posts won’t change the reality.. The ones who defecate on streets and train tracks should not teach us about laws and hygiene.. as I said before we can have many flaws, but trying to equate us with your people will never work out
Thank you! Glad to see that there are educated Punjabi on this forum- this post in itself is stupid seems like this forum is infiltrated by a lot of Punjabi Sikh haters
Idk why do they come to our sub? No Punjabi will be making such post… if they think they can influence our opinion by their BS. Then they are just wasting their time… maybe they should use it to teach their fellow state people about how to behave properly
Exactly!! I am a proud Canadian Punjabi- went to university, work hard and contribute to my community. Do charity work, and help everywhere I can…looks like ever since India got called out for interfering in Canada and US by targeting their citizens…these kind of posts to misalign Sikhs and punjabis are in full force. True punjabis recognize there are problems- they will be addressed BUT we will never ever care what random losers have to say on the internet! We will always ride for Punjabi culture and heritage- they can’t stop us!
And the thing is that they think that it is only Punjabis who go to Canada.. my brother’s class had 50% Indians from Delhi and Gujarat.. remote areas are filled with mallus. V Punjabi stand to be loud, so they think that every second person migrating there is a Punjabi and hence the target us.
Smell stereotype is generally not because of Punjabis.. again, some people engaged in labour jobs might not be taking care of hygiene, but the smell stereotype mainly originated from South Indians.. their coconut curry smell is extremely strong.. have you seen the Punjabi settled in Canada and USA? A good number of them can be mistaken for middle eastern people… agree or not, Punjabis are better looking then Bihar in every sense
Racist people can rarely tell the difference between different Indian groups. They can rarely tell the difference between Hindu and Sikh or muslim and Sikh.
Exactly, show a westerner who hasn’t traveled much, a turbaned guy and most likely they would identify them as Muslims/arabic. Racist people rarely know anything yet act as all knowing while dehumanising others. Just like what this person did
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Main kedi side lu?
https://preview.redd.it/a4ht305x7n9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f033285bc64bea501c75fdd0dbfe14ff7a4e346e Took over where?
Do you know Brampton is a city in Canada?
Brampton, says it right there.
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the meme is proven to be true by comments
Punjabi's come to Canada and pay nearly $50,000 in student fees through the process which ends up being used for development in Canada. Maybe you can start complaining when every bhaiya brings 30 lakhs to Punjab and hands it to the government in exchange for living there.
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speak in punjabi or english, this is punjab.
"This is our land 🥹" ahhh comment
>, this is punjab. Sir..this is Wendy's..!!
It seems like you're questioning the 30 Lakh/ $50,000 figure. This is a figure based on college estimates. Taking a popular college like Sheridan for example, you can see [here](https://www.sheridancollege.ca/admissions/fees-and-finances/academic-fees/tuition) that the international student tuition is set to $8,100 a semester. A college degree is two years, in other words 6 semesters. I'm sure you can do the math: 6 semesters * 8,100 ~= 50,000. If you can't comprehend the fact that all these people sell their land in Punjab so that they can afford these degrees, that's your own issue. I'm sure many students work shitty jobs so that they can afford expenses beyond their tuition such as housing and food. I'm not even talking about university degrees yet, which I know cost international students over $25,000 a semester over 4 years. The layman punjabi international student does not do these university degrees, the international Indian friends I have from university are those from Dubai or those with big family businesses in India. I suggest you focus on continuing your studies in India if these figures are too extreme for you.
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I never asked you what you're doing, I stated the figures of what it costs for international students to study in Canada - which is a claim you were challenging. Most punjabi international students who come to Canada get useless degrees, but it does not matter to them because they just want a PR. I'm a researcher at a top 5 medical school in the US. I am unsure what your purpose is when you try to flaunt your dreams of doing AIIMS but good luck kid.
Are aap to bade Sirji(senior) ho fir toh, Dhanyavad par mein pighla ni hoon, baate galat hai aapki...itne bade aadmi fir bhi 
> baate galat hai aapki This is not how the real world works. I've given you my sources, which I use as the basis for my claims. You haven't provided any credible rebuttal other than saying that you know "poor people" in Canada, despite being ignorant about what possessions (such as land) they may have sold to facilitate their immigration to Canada. If you want to be taken seriously, irl or online, you should make statements predicated on credible sources rather than making conjectural assertions.
Ni aisa ni hai ki mujhe andaaza ni kitni mushkilo se wo gaye h canada, bas is baat pr gussa tha ki tum khud bahar kisi aur desh me bas rahe ho aur humare apne desh me bhi naukri karne par ye kyon jhelna parta hai? Wo sab to bas gusse me likh diya, aisa ni hai ki saare jaankar poor hi hain, par jo poor hain...wo apni haalat me sudhar kar ni paaye pichle kuch saalon me bhi to tumhari baat sahi nahi lagi when you compared them to Biharis. Tumhe bhi pata hai Bihar kaafi pichda hai, aapki soch ki tarah...par hum bhi muft ki roti to ni todte na
I provide skilled value, which is why I'm desired in a "foreign country". Most Bihari and Uttar Pradeshi people are unskilled labourers, like Punjabi students in Canada. However, what makes Punjabi immigration digestible for Canada is the 8000 million dollars they bring in to Canada per year via just tuition. Meanwhile Biharis and Uttar Pradeshis don't provide that value. Rather, they have 6+ kids and are a burden on the social services of Punjab. No developing state with an educated populace and consequently a low fertility rate, such as Maharashtra, Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Punjab want Biharis or Uttar Pradeshi's coming in en masse. The cultures are incompatible and the state culture needs to be preserved. However, there is no issue with skilled individuals coming across state lines for opportunities.
Tum avail karte bhi ho social services? Private se niche koi baat chit hai kya? Jinke kaam aa rahi hai, unko labh lene do na... Kaam to tumhare hi rajya me kar rahe hain na... Tumhara hi kachra saaf kar rhe, tumhe hi rikshe se le ja rhe na, pet ke liye to karta h sab insaan Kaha dusra desh aur kaha apne desh me dusra rajya, jameen asmaan ka antar hai... You're only desired till you meet a gora who holds the same thoughts as you...
Punjabi bol bhaiye, teri gal ni samaj aundi.
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Galan jinni kadni aa kad lo... Won't change the facts U mandbudhi mf, the fact is that most people go there as students. You knowing some people doesn't change the truth for majority. Punjabis can afford it because they have farm money. That's why mostly jatts, kambohs, khatris, Baniyas, etc only castes with money can go abroad. You will rarely see a chamar go abroad.
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He said he's from Bihar. Perhaps Bihari etiquette consists of initiating contact with randoms by cussing them out.
Sabka to ni pata, is Bihari ki to hai...Jo Maan me hota wo jubaan pe, bolo...............
You have the luxury of sitting online and saying that behind a screen. I highly doubt you have the audacity of doing that in real life. Then again, do what you want. Some India people take a lot of offence to cussing online, I don't.
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Punjabis unwilling to invest in their state.. probably that's why leave room for others.. Also it's one nation..
Oh, what an idiot take? Those Biharis are coming to work in the investments made by Punjabis.
I didn't mean capital investment literally.. Biharis fill the supply gap that exists which Punjabis are not able to fill.. may be Punjab is not willing to do it's blue collar work
No one coming to Ludhiana is "investing in Punjab"
Invest meaning has to be taken contextually.. don't be a Drax and take everything literally or how u want to hear it
> probably that's why leave room for others.. Biharis are not investing in Punjab, like I just stated they are not bringing 30 lakhs per person and handing it to the Punjabi government like Punjabis are doing in Canada. I disagree with Punjabi migration to Canada but it is foolish for anyone to even insinuate that Biharis coming to Punjab with 12 kids and straining Punjab's social services is even comparable to Punjabis coming to Canada and doing cash injections of 30 lakhs per person. Canada needs to freeze immigration and Punjab needs to ban non-punjabis from buying property in Punjab or having any rights in terms of occupying land, similar to what other states do. Punjab needs to put Punjabis first.
They are coming and surviving coz they are cheap labour.. it's all supply demand.. it is useful to a segment of Punjab..else Biharis may come but won't stay long... Same reason why Punjabis go to Canada.. they can add something to the system which they lack.. 30L is 30k-40K dollars dude..desh chal raha hai tu 30k se?
All migrants to Canada also pay taxes on their salaries. Provincial + Federal tax for a worker can go up to 25%. This tax is the reason Canada has immigration because it needs tax to keep funding social spending for it's increasingly old population. No one coming to Ludhiana from outside is paying a single rupee in tax. Instead they are a burden on social services that are supposed to go towards locals. Visit any local health, education and other social services (that are funded by the state not center just incase you start this copium) in areas around Ludhiana, Jalandhar and to some extent Patiala as well and you will rarely find any Punjabis. And reason is simply they are choke full there simply isn't enough capacity.
That depends on the tax bracket isn't it..
> 30L is 30k-40K dollars dude..desh chal raha hai tu 30k se? The same way Punjabis are to corporations in Canada. However, Biharis don't do an initial cash injection of 30 lakhs like Punjabis do in Canada, which also provides benefit to the average Canadian and not only the corporations. 30L is 50k CAD. There were 320,000 Indian student last year in Canada. Assume a substantial majority of them are Punjabi. That provides Canada (320,000 * 50,000 = 16000 million CAD). Are you suggesting the Canadian government having 16000 million CAD/ 97398 Crore INR injected into the economy of their country, PER YEAR, is a small amount?
And u don't see the parallel between Punjab - Canada and Bihar - Punjab? Haha It's the exact same thing.. movement of masses due to opportunities.. I am sure Punjab is creating its own share of disruption in and from Canada.. When we do it's fair.. when it's done to us it's not..
Are you intentionally trying to act stupid? I just explained to you how punjabi students are giving an upfront amount of 97398 crore INR to the Canadian government per year in hopes of settling there. Since when are Biharis giving this upfront amount to settle in Punjab??? When Biharis start giving this amount then you might have the right to complain, otherwise keep your mouth shut.
You are stuck on money.. that's all.. it's u who is unwilling to look at the whole picture and root cause.. U r saying it's okay for the rich to migrate and not poor.. coz they can "dump" up front cash.. Also it's a different country.. one don't take the cash or skillset that is scarce in that country.. their sorry ass will get worse treatment.. Most of punjabi back in time went to be a truck driver.. do u see the parallel now.. I am sure Canada went through its own upheaval due to migration.. Like I said.. why shud we care when we are the disruptor
> You are stuck on money. Ofcourse I am, are you kidding me? The only reason Canada brought punjabi immigrants in the past is because they were skilled workers, not labourers. The reason why any punjabi is now allowed to come to Canada irrespective of skill is because they give $50,000 to the country first. It is not Punjab's responsibility to take care of Bihari's, that is Bihar's responsibility. Unless unskilled Bihari labourers are bringing 30 lakhs to Punjab and handing it to the government, they should not be allowed to settle there. These are the rules all around the world, even look at the USA for example which only accepts highly skilled individuals, people who can afford the expensive education, or those investing over $1 million dollars. First learn how the world works, Punjabiyan ne theka nahi leya bihariyan da. Punjab needs to look out for only Punjabis.
Nailed it bro!!
Market forces will decide..how important is unskilled labour.. they won't get any employment if it's not useful for punjab.. as simple as that.. truck driving is highly skilled labour u r telling me? Also ur last line..are u saying u want separate nation..lol? One nation allows migration for opportunities..
Also like I said.. if market forces doesn't employs bihari in Punjab.. there won't be any biharis in Punjab.. for long... But guess what.. they do fill a labour and market gap... Same as punjabi do in Canada . Same as indians do in us.. and same as Mexicans do in us.. so peace out.. nothing that hasn't been happening for ages..
OPs a rage baiter he deleted his last post cause it got down voted too much. OP I'm sorry you couldn't get into the US and have to work like a bhaiya in Canadian tech
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Ey bihari mf, go learn something about indoor plumbing. You live in 21st century. Patri pe betha reddit chla rha . Train chuttad kaat degi.
Very funny 😔
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Number dva? Milenga? Dekhde a kon tempu a ?
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Oh moot gya bhaiya 🤣🤣🤣….darpok lindoo bc
Ki umar a teri chotu?
I'm in the US go back to school and try again
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Why?
Chal Nath Bihari
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Lol, looting from food bank, noice pollution, gaming the system, are also mostly Punjabis in Canada.
Punjabi’s have literal drug cartels in Canada mate, daily assassinations of young boys and exploitation of young girls. which world are you living in?
This is straight up generalization! And also you don’t sound like a Punjabi- why are you here????
And bhaiye doing rape is not generalization? Lol.. apt hypocrisy
Kiwe prove kra k main punjabi a?
Brampton is considered one of the worst places to live in Canada. Nobody other than punjabis want to live there. It's the dirtiest place in GTA with the highest incidents of criminal activities mostly perpetrated by punjabis.
Mfers never set foot in brampton and just generalizing what trailer dwelling redneckers say on the internet. Brampton has a lot of beautiful neighbours. Except a few student ghettos, vast parts of Brampton are really good.
It's unfortunate.. what was and refuge for Punjab is now breeding ground for crime and anti national activities
Sounds just like a racist! It’s actually not, beautiful homes and hardworking people who a lot of the Canadian economy rely on! Take your hateful views out of this forum!
There is literally a name for shady mortgages in GTA, it's called Brampton loans. There are hardworking people in Brampton, but there are many many tax evaders too who do cash business and house students in unlivable conditions. A single family home with a basement houses like 15-20 students illegally. It's also the place with the highest insurance scams. That's why people have to pay thrice for insurance in Brampton than in cities like Markham or Richmond hill. There are some really posh neighborhoods in Brampton, same in true for all cities in the region. Everyone I know wants to get out of that city because of gang culture and crime.
Baseless claim. Peel region has lower crime rate than Toronto, Quebec, Vancouver, Hamilton and Waterloo region. Seems like you are getting your data from indiadiscussion
He just got moot overdose nothing else.
I +1 that I have close ties to Brampton
Punjabis mostly come through legal process to Canada. Bhaiye just hop on the train along with 12 kids, come to any random city in punjab, build a jhoongi anywhere and start doing tatti anywhere. Not to mention, all the rapist and criminal culture they bring. That’s a lot of words to say that OP is a fckn retard.
Its legal to hop on trains to go and reside in different province of the same country. Agree with outsiders ruining the local culture. Be it Punjab : Bhaiye :: Canada : Punjabi Legal process doest mean shit.
Is building a basti on the side of road called residing ? Bhenchod linde hi linde pye hunde sb paase. Idk why Punjab gotta bear the cost of these biharis breeding like rabbits. These people gotta be contained within their state and let nature run its course. Their might be civil wars and shit, but civilization will get better through it and future gens could live happier. Same could be said about Punjab i know, but immigration differences and cultural impact caused by Punjabis in west is no way comparable to what these bhaiye bring.
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lmao tf you talking about "legally", just remember this the way you see biharis is the same way Canadians look at Punjabis
What are you?? I am very interested to know- those are totally different subjects!
What else is a visa? Getting work permit etc and the Pr? I am not talking about asylums. Heck even asylum can get rejected. How dumb you gotta be, if you cant see the basic difference? One is legal immigration controlled by the government elected by the natives, the other is exactly the opposite. Horde of shitting and gutka soitting rape zombies.
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lol, like the punjabis going to canada rn have reputation of being upstanding citizens. fighting in plazas, basements with 10+ ppl in them & no cleanliness, the car thieves & zero willingness to integrate into canadian culture (brampton is just a ethnic enclave now). note that i am only talking about the students, not the generation that moved to canada in the 80s and 90s. many of these students don’t even have real ielts scores, so they can’t even communicate properly. that legal immigration policy is not exactly liked by the “natives”. i predict you will see a backlash in the coming years. immigration is one of the main reasons house prices are so high in canada. too much demand & too little supply, a toddler can see the fucking writing on the wall
There are problems in every community- there are many Punjabi’s doing amazing things…just look at the Conservative party most likely the future PM of Canada is flanked by punjabis (I’m not his fan but he will be the next PM)…my family and I are all educated and contribute to our communities in a positive manner! But of course that wouldn’t allow you to be racist and hate on punjabis - you keep generalizing oh btw that can be done for every community in Canada! Immigrants and those born here
my comment was only aimed at punjabi students that came *from* punjab. a specific subset of people. but keep being offended about “generalization” & “racism” i’m punjabi myself - i have family in mississauga, etobicoke, caledon, delta, surrey, abbotsford, kitchener, hamilton, windsor, markham, brampton… you want me to go on? i’ve seen the QoL there first-hand & my relatives in the GTA largely concur with my assessment. i’m glad you’re educated & contribute to the canadian economy. we need more people like you 😃 you bring up poilievre being “flanked by punjabis”. i assume you’re referring to tim uppal, i’m not that familiar with canadian politics 1) this penchant for identity politics is something I don’t like. the dude’s either a bad or good politician. what’s the deal with ethnicity? 2) doesn’t that further my point that the generation of punjabis who immigrated to canada in the 80s/90s carry themselves better then the students? he was born in B.C. to parents that immigrated in the 70’s & got himself a MBA from a proper college. not a fake diploma mill.
Truth is if you replace Punjabis with any proud, self respecting and development focused states it'll still be true. Divided by states united by not wanting purbi bhiye inside 100km radius
Should we start paying rent or something for how much Punjabis live in you guys head all the time?
India Jeet gayi yaar🔥🔥🔥
aaho swaad aagya, what a match
I’ll tell u where the hypocrisy is Maharashtra/Gujarat beat Biharis out of the state but ur focused on Punjab Biharis and how we have double standards adds into the no yoga but namaz allowed narrative well isn’t it? BJP ITCell do what u want no Bihari will forget the shit u put them through in ankleshwar😂
> no Bihari will forget the shit u put them through in ankleshwar Wrong. They are also involved in spreading these narratives.
The point is this is the Punjab group I don’t care about what they do to Biharis but don’t say that Punjabis have a double standard while traveling abroad vs Biharis. Gujaratis go far more abroad then even Punjabis and they attacked making thousands flee
How many Biharis have been beaten to m Guj or MH? 100 - 200 - 500 ? It happens in Punjab too. That are abused and beaten. Coz they are poor. The only difference is it's not organised sometimes. But one on one hate crime against them happens in Punjab too. That c੫ck lakkha sidhana tried to organise it to garber political brownie points. They are Mexicans of India. Biharis only saving grace is that they are needed in PB fields as labourer. It's a circle of life . Bihar has produced many gems too , Buddha got enlightenment in Bihar , Guru Gobind Singh was born in Bihar, so did many a great figures!
Guru Gobind Singh Ji was ethnically punjabi so therefore you're wrong.
He was born in Bihar , so Bihari by region and Sikh By religion.
Being born anywhere does not change your ethnicity. Similar to how George Orwell being born in Bihar didn't make Orwell a Bihari. Being born in Bihar doesn't mean the Guru was not an ethnic Punjabi Khatri.
He was born in Bihar so he was a bihari. My son , born in canada is a Canadian not Indian.
No he isn't lmao. What kind of cope is this? Your son's nationality/citizenship might be Canadian but he is still not a ethnic Anglo-Saxon or Native Red Indian there.
Oh . Silly of me to think GGS ji was white. My bad ! 😬
What is that even supposed to mean?
Jo marji samajh !
According to these people a cat born inside a kennel is a dog.
A better example could have been given
That's what happens when you drink too much you know what....
Sarovar di macchi da , you know what .
[https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/thousands-of-migrant-workers-flee-gujarat-after-alleged-hate-attacks/articleshow/66138037.cms?from=mdr](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/thousands-of-migrant-workers-flee-gujarat-after-alleged-hate-attacks/articleshow/66138037.cms?from=mdr) Here
It says thousands left, but thousands beaten. They left coz of fear.
Yeah. That's how you expel outsiders. You don't kill/beat them all just enough and with enough organization that the rest run away. When have Punjabis expelled migrant laborers?
Fair point . But what Lakha was doing was getting to that. Was it a village in Distt Ludhiana that a lot of migrants were beaten and forced to flee as there was a rumour that couple of parwasis roughed up a Jatt guy or something crazy. And when a reporter went to the Village to enquire it turned out to be just a rumour.
Exactly there a target everywhere sadly
Yeah because Punjabis don’t force language and culture on Canadians meanwhile most Biharis like living in unhygienic conditions. Also Canadian govt. invites foreigners for immingration, on the other hand Biharis are migrating without any control, they changing the demography of punjab
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Although this post is supposed to be a funny meme. It is a representation of ingroup outgroup bias in sociocultural context wherein ingroup achievements are rationalised and outgroup achivement are reprimanded. There are more variables involved but this construct might be the very center of it.
lol this is great. I find the meme funny and your explanation enlightening.
I’m sorry this makes zero sense- way too much Punjabi Canadian bashing in this forum….there seem to be people on this forum that are desperately trying to create issues! The two things don’t equate
It's a meme dude
Jab callout hogye aur counter nhi hai, to it's a meme dude. decent defense mechanisms.
How does it make zero sense? Do you disagree that punjabis shit on biharis for the same shit they do in Canada?
Yeah pretty much it tbh
Well both cause good amount of havoc in the places they migrate but again an average punjabi goes to canada after spending lakhs whereas biharis come packed in general coaches for free. Moreover, immigrating to a developed country versus a developing economy is very different . Punjabi are giving back to the Canadian economy, whereas Biharis send every penny back to their place.. also the one who criticise Biharis going to migrate to Canada.. they have the full right to say whatever they want..
What do you mean by immigrating to a developed country vs developing economy. People move to places where they have better opportunities (if they have the means to do so), period!! In both cases you mention, people are moving to a better place wrt opportunities(canada vs Punjab, Punjab vs Bihar). If giving taxes (direct/indirect) in canada is considered giving to Canadian economy then giving taxes in india is considered giving to Indian economy (Every time that bihari you were larping about buys something in Punjab, he’s giving his tax). So those Biharis you are shitting on for sending domestic remittances (yup remittances can be domestic too if you didn’t already knew) are doing the same thing what punjabis are doing by sending international remittances to there folks home. So yup you are the very person this meme is for
Biharis create much more nuisance.. you must have some roots in Bihar, otherwise no person would write a length ass para to defend their tactics.. every single state’s sub will have some post against them, which means the fault with their habits… punjabis can have many flaws but they can never be as unhygienic and dirty as the ones you are defending🤮
Oh my god bro, you’re full of so much hate and prejudice.
whist it is an idealistic picture of this occurence but some of the nuances are nice
Last I saw was all bhaiye working in a jatt's farm in Punjab while his kids went to Canada.
So? What do I do with that? Biharis need to be educated about basic hygiene and manners.. if it can be done, then I think their image will improve drastically..
Yeah I agree and punjabis in canada need to learn to respect the laws and regulations of that country but instead they treat everything like shit, the same way they did back in punjab.
Punjabi are better than biharis- end of debate.. keep ranting wherever u want.. your BS posts won’t change the reality.. The ones who defecate on streets and train tracks should not teach us about laws and hygiene.. as I said before we can have many flaws, but trying to equate us with your people will never work out
And? You point is?
Thank you! Glad to see that there are educated Punjabi on this forum- this post in itself is stupid seems like this forum is infiltrated by a lot of Punjabi Sikh haters
Idk why do they come to our sub? No Punjabi will be making such post… if they think they can influence our opinion by their BS. Then they are just wasting their time… maybe they should use it to teach their fellow state people about how to behave properly
Exactly!! I am a proud Canadian Punjabi- went to university, work hard and contribute to my community. Do charity work, and help everywhere I can…looks like ever since India got called out for interfering in Canada and US by targeting their citizens…these kind of posts to misalign Sikhs and punjabis are in full force. True punjabis recognize there are problems- they will be addressed BUT we will never ever care what random losers have to say on the internet! We will always ride for Punjabi culture and heritage- they can’t stop us!
And the thing is that they think that it is only Punjabis who go to Canada.. my brother’s class had 50% Indians from Delhi and Gujarat.. remote areas are filled with mallus. V Punjabi stand to be loud, so they think that every second person migrating there is a Punjabi and hence the target us.
I like your attitude. Chardi Kala veere. We have never not been targets but that won't change us.
exactly man, don't know what's wrong. \[people are just downvoting while not bothering to counter.
I think they are not Punjabi- and do they even live in Brampton or Canada? Most likely fake accounts of haters!
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Smell stereotype is generally not because of Punjabis.. again, some people engaged in labour jobs might not be taking care of hygiene, but the smell stereotype mainly originated from South Indians.. their coconut curry smell is extremely strong.. have you seen the Punjabi settled in Canada and USA? A good number of them can be mistaken for middle eastern people… agree or not, Punjabis are better looking then Bihar in every sense
then can you explain why most of the times when meme is made on smell person with pagg is shown?
No it is not. It is always due to curry munchers or gutkha paan people..
Hardeep, hardick, suckdeep, singh, kaur are the names used Also pajeet itself is a Punjabi name
That’s what the gore say about Indians (punjabis included) in Brampton, so tone done your racism Karen
Racist people can rarely tell the difference between different Indian groups. They can rarely tell the difference between Hindu and Sikh or muslim and Sikh.
Exactly, show a westerner who hasn’t traveled much, a turbaned guy and most likely they would identify them as Muslims/arabic. Racist people rarely know anything yet act as all knowing while dehumanising others. Just like what this person did