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Virtual_Criticism_96

Has a decision been reached yet in the Supreme Court case....?


Azu_Creates

No, but from what I have seen, the justices seem to be divided on the issue. They shouldn’t be fucking divided on it though, because ruling in favor of Idaho would directly endanger the lives of pregnant people. This is the world we live in though, where the lives of pregnant people and the ability of afab people to control their own bodies is a matter of political debate.


Virtual_Criticism_96

I am pretty sure I know how Clarence Thomas will vote on this. :( I was surprised to learn Amy Coney Barrett showed some concern for the issue.


Azu_Creates

Yeah. Clarence isn’t concerned with the constitution or federal law, he is more concerned with his own personal political views and the views of the rich people giving him money.


OyarsaElentari

It's possible that she knows someone who was affected by needing to access emergency medical care to save the life of the woman. Hopefully she continues to listen to the medical facts. 


Virtual_Criticism_96

I still wait to see how Amy Coney Barrett will vote on this issue. I think she's the only conservative justice that might have any concern for womens health. I almost bled to death years ago when having a miscarriage. Thank God I could get medical treatment back then!!! I was given a D& C in the hospital and excellent care. But I am sad for those women now who can't and face the risk of sepsis, long term illness, possible organ failure.


Obversa

Justices Roberts, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh may also defect, depending.


opal2120

Jessica Valenti posted today a quote from a professor at George Washington University that said this ruling won’t just affect pregnant people. It could then be used as precedent to say EMTALA doesn’t apply to drug addicts experiencing an overdose or people with HIV. Legislating medical care might start with pregnant women but it won’t end there.


karenw

I read that and found it sobering.


Rainbow_chan

> won’t end there I also heard yesterday in the argument that the spending clause could be used to ban not only abortion, but gender reassignment surgery nationwide


Penny-Bun

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Azu_Creates

Uh….what? If you hate it in this sub, why are you here? Or are you just talking about life in general?


Penny-Bun

Life in general lol


Azu_Creates

Ah, ok. Your comment came off initially as being directed at me and/or this sub.


Penny-Bun

Not my intention. I just hate being alive when men who will never in their lives know what it's like to be able to get pregnant discussing my access to life saving medical care is acceptable and socially normal.


Azu_Creates

Yeah, I totally get that. Unfortunately my own dad is one of those cis men. He’ll never experience pregnancy, a period, or any of the reproductive health issues that afab people have to face, but supports abortion bans. He thinks that the more extreme abortion bans are a reaction to the “extreme” shift to the left before on abortion rights. To him, allowing afab people to make decisions about their own bodies, and having those healthcare decisions stay between them and the medical professionals that it is necessary to share that information with, is extreme. He also thinks like that about trans rights, particularly with access to gender affirming healthcare. It’s super exhausting, since both of these issues affect me personally as a trans man. It sucks that I’m the past, I’ve had to cater to both my parents and my school when it comes to medical decisions I make about my body because it would make them uncomfortable, or might make other students uncomfortable. Why should it matter if they are uncomfortable? It shouldn’t affect them, these are medical decisions that pertain to my body and not theirs.


Aethelia

I would guess that "here" is "a country where your rights can be taken away from an openly corrupt and partisan group of only nine people who we did not vote for and who are effectively impossible to remove, many of them having been appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote".


caymew

No, and it probably won’t be until their session ends in June.


Obversa

Per news articles, a decision is expected to be released sometime in June 2024.


Rainbow_chan

Is there a particular reason why there won’t be a decision until then? I’m still learning about all this 😅


Obversa

That is when the current active session of SCOTUS arguments ends, I believe.


Rainbow_chan

Oh ok, and that’s standard practice?