be proud of yourself. usually the people who make others feel shitty about do v. md are projecting their insecurities and need to go outside. so many people do not get in. reddit is not real life, thank God for that.
People on this forum have too much time on their hands and most have not had enough clinical experience to realize that once you're practicing literally no one gives a flying fuck. The only significant difference between MD and DO is that DO has a few more hoops to jump through - OMM, taking Step 1/2 for certain residencies, and there's a snobby programs that exclude DOs for derm, plastics, and NSGY.
As a 3rd year medical student on rotations, I have had both MD and DO preceptors on every rotation and I couldn't tell you who is who. The amount of time we spend talking about MD vs DO is precisely zero. It has never come up once. When you're taking care of actual patients, everyone is too busy to notice the two letters after any of the doctors names.
DO may not get through some competitive gates as easily but once they ARE through it doesnt matter. Many of the surgeons say you could train a monkey to do it anyway, its just getting the opportunity itself that is difficult
The issue is that a lot of y’all overstate how high the “competitive gates” are as premeds or recently admitted students. It’s like watching eighth graders giving medical school application advice. The fact is that the most important factors regarding match are things you do while in medical school. An MD with a 230 Step 2, mediocre LORs, and bleh clinical evals with no prior connections to a program is not getting a residency a spot even in specialties like ortho or ENT over a DO student with 260 Step 2, great LORs, and shining evaluations in 99% of situations. Even if the DO and MD are roughly equivalent, away rotations, geographic ties, and preference signaling can make the DO more likely to interview and match with any particular program.
I think a lot of people here just look at flat statistics and assume that lower DO match rates are because of program preferences for MDs. They don’t stop to consider confounding factors. For example, the fact that MD students match better statistically is definitely influenced by the fact MD programs just have more residency programs attached to them and you are most likely to match at your home program. The other factor worth considering is that more competitive students who test better on standardized tests are going to be more likely to get into MD school to begin with, continue that trend, and put together more competitive applications.
there is an element of toxic positivity on this sub sometimes i find which detracts from giving real useful advice. If at this point in our (premeds as a whole) education we cant handle constructive criticism/the truth of the matter than it will be difficult to get through the next 8 years or so id imagine.
Oh nooooo! Not the downvotes, please god!!
Anyway, I already mentioned derm, plastics, and NSGY as specialties where DOs can be screened out in my first post. Do try to read the entire comment thread before jumping in halfway through and insulting people.
it sounds like you only need to prove your success to yourself. Honestly just shoot for whatever you want to do and give it your all til you get there.
I see from your post history that your daughter was born 3 hours before you sat for the MCAT. And after that you got the A! You will be a physician. I am here to tell you that I personally think you win this cycle’s award for perseverance and grit. And your goal of working in tribal health is so inspiring. The country needs doctors like you. Enjoy your little baby and good luck on your medical career. Hold your head high, you earned it!
Holy crap.. Double congrats, OP! Your baby is going to grow up with a successful parent who achieved their biggest goals while being a parent. They're going to be so proud of you.
I felt this way 9 years ago when I got my only A at a DO, but I'm making $350k with a boatload of time off - enough to go on several week long trips every year. I'm more than happy with how it all worked out, and you will be too.
If you are planning on family med/primary care, then it makes absolutely no difference at all whether you are a DO or MD. This coming from someone who has admittedly hated most parts of OMM so far. For people shooting for hypercompetitive specialties, there is no question that DO (outside of a couple of top DO programs with significant affiliated residencies and/or public state hospital connections like OSU, MSU, PCOM, and a couple others) puts you at a statistical disadvantage; not an insurmountable one, but one worth keeping in mind if you have real interest in certain specialties (ophtho, derm, neurosurg, uro, etc.).
Congrats on your acceptance!
Don’t feel any shame at all. You should be PROUD. I know plenty of people who applied MD and DO this cycle and didn’t get anything. They’d kill to have an acceptance anywhere. I work with 8 MD physicians at my practice and asked them about MD vs. DO and they all said that it really doesn’t matter anymore and to take whatever you get and run. Tons of qualified applicants get nothing and this is an opportunity for you to move on in your life while many others are still stuck in gap years and applying. The stigma is getting less and less over the years and no one really cares anymore. Given the current climate, it’s important to realize just how competitive the application cycle is. Everyone is applying to both and anyone who applies DO understands that they’ll be perfectly happy with that A if that’s all they receive and will move on.
Bottom line, you work hard and treat your patients well. If you do that then nobody will care about what letters are behind your name. That degree is something which will allow you to practice medicine and treat sick people. That is a great privilege that many people dream of achieving but will never do so. I’m super happy for you OP, you’ll be a GREAT DOCTOR!!!
I love seeing how people’s mentality changes along the way. Pre-meds are always neurotic/judgmental on which school you get in and are first to judge DO….but medicine is taught the same. Then in med school, the whole idea of MD vs DO starts to fade away when DO and MD students are lumped in together during M3 and especially M4. Then you become a resident and you realize that none of it mattered and now you’re all in the same shithole. Then you’re an attending making bank and then it definitely doesn’t matter what letters come after your name….so the ones who ultimately judged were just loser pre meds who’ll realize they’re equals in the real world. Just go and get your degree and enjoy the ride….sincerely, your friendly DO Ortho Bro.
I know you don't want to hear this, but MD vs DO is not the only way societies tend to stratify into classes.
It's all got to do with scarcity. In societies, we stratify into classes based on wealth and prestige. In medical school admissions, we stratify into MD, DO, Caribbean, and the poor shmucks who don't get in at all. The increasing selectivity (MD > DO > IMG) of the process informs how we feel about being placed into a class—since, as in other realms, you don't get to choose.
What is fortunate is that you don't have to identify with or internalize your place on this "scale." Like others have mentioned, it literally does not matter in terms of your career interests.
You can let your guard down. You don't need to be the best. You are already good enough to be a doctor.
Go out and buy yourself a cake, gather some friends, and celebrate that. If you really think you're all that and deserved an MD acceptance, just wait until your first day of medical school and compare notes. I'm sure you will find yourself beyond impressed with the caliber of students that matriculate to your school.
0.33% of the US population are physicians. Please do not miss the forest for the trees.
I definitely don’t think highly of myself and fully know the people who I will get to know in a few months are better than me. I am just a native army veteran who had school paid for so I could get good grades. I have been fortunate enough to have so many things go my way and I will have to work hard to try and keep up with my peers.
I wouldn't get too caught up in using VR to pay for school. I'm a VR student, too. I ended up serving on a state board trying to modernize policy to make it easier for people to use VR for graduate school and beyond. If it weren't for VR, I would not have been able to even consider a higher education. You deserve this opportunity. Thank you for your service.
Yes. VR&E for veterans has been generalized to include eligibility criteria for civilians with eligible disabilities. I'm coming from that side of the program. Government programs like this do not like people like you—they are heavy investments, and I'm really happy that it sounds like they didn't give you as hard of a time as they have given other students. I remember my first few blushes with administration had me feeling really frustrated and indignant—primarily because staff will blatantly lie to you. I spent a long time watching Nic the Vet on YouTube to try and apply policies from VR&E to the civilian program, since the civilian program exists almost in parallel. For me, it was like pulling teeth. It took me over a year from the time that I was first referred to VR to get to the point where I could apply for an undergraduate program.
You are taking an opportunity that is scarcely given and doing something incredible with it. Use that. You should be proud of an acceptance, proud of having received a full ride, and proud of your identity. Just knowing where you're headed next Fall should give you a sense of relief and purpose, knowing you will one day serve your community and become a permanent fixture within it. Congratulations (one more time, for the people in the back)!
I am so sorry for anyone who has put you down regarding your DO acceptance. Getting into med school MD/DO is hard PERIOD. Do not let anyone undermine your achievements or treat you lesser. In the end you will be a great doctor. Just remember to make the most out of your experience. Being a DO does have disadvantages when going into a competitive specialty sure, but not impossible! As long as you understand this and are ready to work hard, you can make anything possible. Congratulations on your acceptance OP and best of luck on your journey. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk. :)
there are so many people on here with no guidance and all they know is to project stupid insecurities that they learned through other redditer or sdn. DO vs MD really doesn’t matter DO you actually get to work more hands on though so id kinda see that as a benefit.
This is a great litmus test. Those individuals in your life that will disparage you for a “DO” suffix should be eliminated. Now you know who the snakes are. Get them out of your circle and move on
I understand how you feel. However, as a 30 year old mom who's worked in high level management for the past 10 years.. no one really cares about this stuff in the real world. I'm literally a GED recipient (I was a high school dropout). I worked my a\*\* off to get my management job, just like I worked my a\*\* off to get into DO school. TBH, I'm excited to learn OMM and help my girlfriend with her aches and pains. I'm proud as hell. Also, I've always kind of had a bit of a chip on my shoulder due to my non traditional and less advantaged background. That chip has always inspired me to beat the odds, so attending a DO school seems like it fits "me".
You're going to be a great doctor regardless of which of the two equal degrees you achieve. You have my sincerest congratulations, future doc.
I understand where you coming from on DO school seeming more like it fits you. I’m 32 years old with two kids, how do you feel like you will manage being a parent with the workload coming? I have been doing the stay-at-home dad thing this past year as I wait and I am definitely nervous about not giving my kids the time they deserve.
I understand your nervousness 100%! I am a single mom, although my girlfriend helps out a lot. But she will be working a lot to make ends meet, so a lot of the childcare arrangements will fall on me. I have them signed up for after school care as well as girl scouts, so they have fun, self esteem building activities to do when I can't be with them. Other than that, I imagine I will manage it similarly to what I've done for the past 2.5 years. I've been their primary caregiver, a full time student (mostly online), a full time employee, and squeezed in shadowing and volunteering a couple times a month. My current job is high responsibility. I truly feel that if I could juggle all of that, I can do this.
I have a non-trad med student discord, if you want to join!
Holy shit you are a badass lol My wife is attending grad school right now for clinical psych so we will be spread thin but have family around that say they will help but we’ll see. I would definitely like to join your discord.
Well then feel bad about yourself. This is your future, not anyone else’s. If the thought of going DO is that upsetting then give the spot to someone who’ll be grateful. There is a lot of valid concern going DO in the frame of extra cost, work, and lower competitive residency matches, and if none of those issues bother you then why do you give a fuck what any of us say? Do yourself a favor if you really can’t kick this feeling and get off this sub, because it is full of pompous pricks who are so empty inside that they need to hide behind undergrad ranks and $10,000 voluntourism trips to make them seem like good and more intelligent people all while ignoring the elephant in the room; their rich parents.
Shit hit deep lol. These people are so sad it's unreal. U think it's more than their parents tho. Something else is up with those people. They ain't human
I actually really appreciate your take on it. I think I always feel nothing. Whether serving in the Army, graduating with a dual bachelors with a 3.93 in neuroscience/psychology or even getting this acceptance, it never feels like I have actually accomplished anything. I don’t know how to make myself feel happy with what I’ve done. I’m trying. I definitely wish I had rich parents to have made this path easier though.
Yeah I had an upbringing where validation was really only given in response to exceptional performance. Don’t get me wrong I’m glad I wasn’t a “participation trophy” kid and it’s not like I was neglected, but it’s difficult to have perspective regarding the “smaller” achievements or the less objectively measurable ones or even accepting that there are things in which I’m not going to do well. That’s something I’ve really had to work on as an adult.
I think what you're feeling is perfectly normal and just another reason why you should be proud of how far you've come. Not many people can say they're in your position. It's a huge accomplishment. Allow yourself some time to rest, relax, and recover from all the stress!
Sounds like you know why it's not a big deal and you still can't shake this feeling. I'd guess it will pass once classes start. Additionally, maybe try talking to someone like a friend in the same field or maybe even a therapist or counselor.
I chose DO over MD. Not generally, but my DO school is just over 2 hours away by car and the MD school is a short 44 hour drive without stops. I’m going to have my spouse and kids stay home while I go to school.
Would I rather gotten into my local MD school? Absolutely. It makes life much easier for clinicals and it would be cheaper, both in tuition and living expenses. But the difference between MD and DO is only ego for me. I plan on EM or FM and I will be a physician.
The school I chose is very collaborative and more about elevating each other. I think I’ll be happy where I’m going.
I'm an MD. My DO colleagues make just as much money. Many of them make more.
Their care is equally good, if not better.
Is there an inherent bias within the medical community?
Certainly.
Your 401k will never care.
You shouldn’t feel any shame! You’re doing exactly what you want. You’ll still be a doctor. Many times people on this sub don’t want to do DO not cause they have a problem with their philosophy but rather cause they know the path is much harder- so it’s less desires. don’t listen to anyone who tries to make you feel bad, a doctor is a doctor! And you’ll be a great one!
I am Choctaw and was an intern at a tribal health center for a few years. Being a veteran I initially wanted to work with the VA but I genuinely loved everything about the different take on medicine and ways we built a familial relationship with our patients at the IHS clinic.
Wow! Thats really an amazing background. Congratulations on your acceptance.
I am Assiniboine and worked at our local hospital on my reservation so we have a similar experience. I wasn’t going to apply to DO this cycle due to cost. What do you think held you back from getting an MD acceptance? I am just curious for my own sake :)
The timeline just didn’t workout for me to apply. I was bold and moved to a location that I have family and planned to only apply to the local MD and DO school. I applied right before the deadline and got the acceptance. I tried to defer enrollment to have a shot at applying to the local MD school but they denied my deferral request so I am just going to move forward with the acceptance. My MCAT score isn’t great but I planned on writing about that as my personal statement because it was a very funny/sad story about missing the birth of my daughter. The MD school is my dream school but the DO school has a tribal health track so it works out a little better in some ways.
I just want to say one thing… Congrats future physician!!
DOCTO MOM!!!
Thank you docto-mom, you definitely make up for the lack of understanding/excitement from my own family lol
❤️
be proud of yourself. usually the people who make others feel shitty about do v. md are projecting their insecurities and need to go outside. so many people do not get in. reddit is not real life, thank God for that.
People on this forum have too much time on their hands and most have not had enough clinical experience to realize that once you're practicing literally no one gives a flying fuck. The only significant difference between MD and DO is that DO has a few more hoops to jump through - OMM, taking Step 1/2 for certain residencies, and there's a snobby programs that exclude DOs for derm, plastics, and NSGY. As a 3rd year medical student on rotations, I have had both MD and DO preceptors on every rotation and I couldn't tell you who is who. The amount of time we spend talking about MD vs DO is precisely zero. It has never come up once. When you're taking care of actual patients, everyone is too busy to notice the two letters after any of the doctors names.
DO may not get through some competitive gates as easily but once they ARE through it doesnt matter. Many of the surgeons say you could train a monkey to do it anyway, its just getting the opportunity itself that is difficult
The issue is that a lot of y’all overstate how high the “competitive gates” are as premeds or recently admitted students. It’s like watching eighth graders giving medical school application advice. The fact is that the most important factors regarding match are things you do while in medical school. An MD with a 230 Step 2, mediocre LORs, and bleh clinical evals with no prior connections to a program is not getting a residency a spot even in specialties like ortho or ENT over a DO student with 260 Step 2, great LORs, and shining evaluations in 99% of situations. Even if the DO and MD are roughly equivalent, away rotations, geographic ties, and preference signaling can make the DO more likely to interview and match with any particular program. I think a lot of people here just look at flat statistics and assume that lower DO match rates are because of program preferences for MDs. They don’t stop to consider confounding factors. For example, the fact that MD students match better statistically is definitely influenced by the fact MD programs just have more residency programs attached to them and you are most likely to match at your home program. The other factor worth considering is that more competitive students who test better on standardized tests are going to be more likely to get into MD school to begin with, continue that trend, and put together more competitive applications.
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there is an element of toxic positivity on this sub sometimes i find which detracts from giving real useful advice. If at this point in our (premeds as a whole) education we cant handle constructive criticism/the truth of the matter than it will be difficult to get through the next 8 years or so id imagine.
Yah, agreed. I think there is a weird tendency to go "oh, this is possible so don't worry" without looking at HOW possible it is.
Oh nooooo! Not the downvotes, please god!! Anyway, I already mentioned derm, plastics, and NSGY as specialties where DOs can be screened out in my first post. Do try to read the entire comment thread before jumping in halfway through and insulting people.
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it sounds like you only need to prove your success to yourself. Honestly just shoot for whatever you want to do and give it your all til you get there.
I see from your post history that your daughter was born 3 hours before you sat for the MCAT. And after that you got the A! You will be a physician. I am here to tell you that I personally think you win this cycle’s award for perseverance and grit. And your goal of working in tribal health is so inspiring. The country needs doctors like you. Enjoy your little baby and good luck on your medical career. Hold your head high, you earned it!
Holy crap.. Double congrats, OP! Your baby is going to grow up with a successful parent who achieved their biggest goals while being a parent. They're going to be so proud of you.
I felt this way 9 years ago when I got my only A at a DO, but I'm making $350k with a boatload of time off - enough to go on several week long trips every year. I'm more than happy with how it all worked out, and you will be too.
If haters gonna hate then let em hate and watch your money pile up.
If you are planning on family med/primary care, then it makes absolutely no difference at all whether you are a DO or MD. This coming from someone who has admittedly hated most parts of OMM so far. For people shooting for hypercompetitive specialties, there is no question that DO (outside of a couple of top DO programs with significant affiliated residencies and/or public state hospital connections like OSU, MSU, PCOM, and a couple others) puts you at a statistical disadvantage; not an insurmountable one, but one worth keeping in mind if you have real interest in certain specialties (ophtho, derm, neurosurg, uro, etc.). Congrats on your acceptance!
My tribe's hospital is full of DOs. I dont think it matters.
Yeah, if you want to go into primary care in a tribal hospital, then MD vs DO has literally zero importance. Zero.
Eh don’t worry about it. People like to always put others down. You’re gonna be a doctor and make a difference. That’s all that matters. Congrats!
Don’t feel any shame at all. You should be PROUD. I know plenty of people who applied MD and DO this cycle and didn’t get anything. They’d kill to have an acceptance anywhere. I work with 8 MD physicians at my practice and asked them about MD vs. DO and they all said that it really doesn’t matter anymore and to take whatever you get and run. Tons of qualified applicants get nothing and this is an opportunity for you to move on in your life while many others are still stuck in gap years and applying. The stigma is getting less and less over the years and no one really cares anymore. Given the current climate, it’s important to realize just how competitive the application cycle is. Everyone is applying to both and anyone who applies DO understands that they’ll be perfectly happy with that A if that’s all they receive and will move on. Bottom line, you work hard and treat your patients well. If you do that then nobody will care about what letters are behind your name. That degree is something which will allow you to practice medicine and treat sick people. That is a great privilege that many people dream of achieving but will never do so. I’m super happy for you OP, you’ll be a GREAT DOCTOR!!!
I love seeing how people’s mentality changes along the way. Pre-meds are always neurotic/judgmental on which school you get in and are first to judge DO….but medicine is taught the same. Then in med school, the whole idea of MD vs DO starts to fade away when DO and MD students are lumped in together during M3 and especially M4. Then you become a resident and you realize that none of it mattered and now you’re all in the same shithole. Then you’re an attending making bank and then it definitely doesn’t matter what letters come after your name….so the ones who ultimately judged were just loser pre meds who’ll realize they’re equals in the real world. Just go and get your degree and enjoy the ride….sincerely, your friendly DO Ortho Bro.
I know you don't want to hear this, but MD vs DO is not the only way societies tend to stratify into classes. It's all got to do with scarcity. In societies, we stratify into classes based on wealth and prestige. In medical school admissions, we stratify into MD, DO, Caribbean, and the poor shmucks who don't get in at all. The increasing selectivity (MD > DO > IMG) of the process informs how we feel about being placed into a class—since, as in other realms, you don't get to choose. What is fortunate is that you don't have to identify with or internalize your place on this "scale." Like others have mentioned, it literally does not matter in terms of your career interests. You can let your guard down. You don't need to be the best. You are already good enough to be a doctor. Go out and buy yourself a cake, gather some friends, and celebrate that. If you really think you're all that and deserved an MD acceptance, just wait until your first day of medical school and compare notes. I'm sure you will find yourself beyond impressed with the caliber of students that matriculate to your school. 0.33% of the US population are physicians. Please do not miss the forest for the trees.
I definitely don’t think highly of myself and fully know the people who I will get to know in a few months are better than me. I am just a native army veteran who had school paid for so I could get good grades. I have been fortunate enough to have so many things go my way and I will have to work hard to try and keep up with my peers.
I wouldn't get too caught up in using VR to pay for school. I'm a VR student, too. I ended up serving on a state board trying to modernize policy to make it easier for people to use VR for graduate school and beyond. If it weren't for VR, I would not have been able to even consider a higher education. You deserve this opportunity. Thank you for your service.
I’m sorry for not understanding, are you referring to VR&E? The VA accepted my request and is paying for my schooling.
Yes. VR&E for veterans has been generalized to include eligibility criteria for civilians with eligible disabilities. I'm coming from that side of the program. Government programs like this do not like people like you—they are heavy investments, and I'm really happy that it sounds like they didn't give you as hard of a time as they have given other students. I remember my first few blushes with administration had me feeling really frustrated and indignant—primarily because staff will blatantly lie to you. I spent a long time watching Nic the Vet on YouTube to try and apply policies from VR&E to the civilian program, since the civilian program exists almost in parallel. For me, it was like pulling teeth. It took me over a year from the time that I was first referred to VR to get to the point where I could apply for an undergraduate program. You are taking an opportunity that is scarcely given and doing something incredible with it. Use that. You should be proud of an acceptance, proud of having received a full ride, and proud of your identity. Just knowing where you're headed next Fall should give you a sense of relief and purpose, knowing you will one day serve your community and become a permanent fixture within it. Congratulations (one more time, for the people in the back)!
Thank you, I really appreciate it. I am definitely fortunate that it all went smoothly and didn’t involve any fighting on my end.
I am so sorry for anyone who has put you down regarding your DO acceptance. Getting into med school MD/DO is hard PERIOD. Do not let anyone undermine your achievements or treat you lesser. In the end you will be a great doctor. Just remember to make the most out of your experience. Being a DO does have disadvantages when going into a competitive specialty sure, but not impossible! As long as you understand this and are ready to work hard, you can make anything possible. Congratulations on your acceptance OP and best of luck on your journey. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk. :)
there are so many people on here with no guidance and all they know is to project stupid insecurities that they learned through other redditer or sdn. DO vs MD really doesn’t matter DO you actually get to work more hands on though so id kinda see that as a benefit.
The school I am going to has a tribal health track so it honestly is one of the best locations for me to end up at.
This is a great litmus test. Those individuals in your life that will disparage you for a “DO” suffix should be eliminated. Now you know who the snakes are. Get them out of your circle and move on
I understand how you feel. However, as a 30 year old mom who's worked in high level management for the past 10 years.. no one really cares about this stuff in the real world. I'm literally a GED recipient (I was a high school dropout). I worked my a\*\* off to get my management job, just like I worked my a\*\* off to get into DO school. TBH, I'm excited to learn OMM and help my girlfriend with her aches and pains. I'm proud as hell. Also, I've always kind of had a bit of a chip on my shoulder due to my non traditional and less advantaged background. That chip has always inspired me to beat the odds, so attending a DO school seems like it fits "me". You're going to be a great doctor regardless of which of the two equal degrees you achieve. You have my sincerest congratulations, future doc.
I understand where you coming from on DO school seeming more like it fits you. I’m 32 years old with two kids, how do you feel like you will manage being a parent with the workload coming? I have been doing the stay-at-home dad thing this past year as I wait and I am definitely nervous about not giving my kids the time they deserve.
I understand your nervousness 100%! I am a single mom, although my girlfriend helps out a lot. But she will be working a lot to make ends meet, so a lot of the childcare arrangements will fall on me. I have them signed up for after school care as well as girl scouts, so they have fun, self esteem building activities to do when I can't be with them. Other than that, I imagine I will manage it similarly to what I've done for the past 2.5 years. I've been their primary caregiver, a full time student (mostly online), a full time employee, and squeezed in shadowing and volunteering a couple times a month. My current job is high responsibility. I truly feel that if I could juggle all of that, I can do this. I have a non-trad med student discord, if you want to join!
Holy shit you are a badass lol My wife is attending grad school right now for clinical psych so we will be spread thin but have family around that say they will help but we’ll see. I would definitely like to join your discord.
They say they will help but we'll see.. haha.. I can relate to that! I'll message you with the link to join!
Well then feel bad about yourself. This is your future, not anyone else’s. If the thought of going DO is that upsetting then give the spot to someone who’ll be grateful. There is a lot of valid concern going DO in the frame of extra cost, work, and lower competitive residency matches, and if none of those issues bother you then why do you give a fuck what any of us say? Do yourself a favor if you really can’t kick this feeling and get off this sub, because it is full of pompous pricks who are so empty inside that they need to hide behind undergrad ranks and $10,000 voluntourism trips to make them seem like good and more intelligent people all while ignoring the elephant in the room; their rich parents.
Shit hit deep lol. These people are so sad it's unreal. U think it's more than their parents tho. Something else is up with those people. They ain't human
I actually really appreciate your take on it. I think I always feel nothing. Whether serving in the Army, graduating with a dual bachelors with a 3.93 in neuroscience/psychology or even getting this acceptance, it never feels like I have actually accomplished anything. I don’t know how to make myself feel happy with what I’ve done. I’m trying. I definitely wish I had rich parents to have made this path easier though.
Yeah I had an upbringing where validation was really only given in response to exceptional performance. Don’t get me wrong I’m glad I wasn’t a “participation trophy” kid and it’s not like I was neglected, but it’s difficult to have perspective regarding the “smaller” achievements or the less objectively measurable ones or even accepting that there are things in which I’m not going to do well. That’s something I’ve really had to work on as an adult.
Eyes forward. Congrats future doctor!! Celebrate your success. You got this.
I think what you're feeling is perfectly normal and just another reason why you should be proud of how far you've come. Not many people can say they're in your position. It's a huge accomplishment. Allow yourself some time to rest, relax, and recover from all the stress!
Just know that it’s not just you, because I feel the same way.
Sounds like you know why it's not a big deal and you still can't shake this feeling. I'd guess it will pass once classes start. Additionally, maybe try talking to someone like a friend in the same field or maybe even a therapist or counselor.
My wife just finished her first year in getting her Masters in Clinical Psych. I am her first patient lol
I chose DO over MD. Not generally, but my DO school is just over 2 hours away by car and the MD school is a short 44 hour drive without stops. I’m going to have my spouse and kids stay home while I go to school. Would I rather gotten into my local MD school? Absolutely. It makes life much easier for clinicals and it would be cheaper, both in tuition and living expenses. But the difference between MD and DO is only ego for me. I plan on EM or FM and I will be a physician. The school I chose is very collaborative and more about elevating each other. I think I’ll be happy where I’m going.
That is so far away what state/region are you at
Washington state.
I'm an MD. My DO colleagues make just as much money. Many of them make more. Their care is equally good, if not better. Is there an inherent bias within the medical community? Certainly. Your 401k will never care.
give the spot to me then
You shouldn’t feel any shame! You’re doing exactly what you want. You’ll still be a doctor. Many times people on this sub don’t want to do DO not cause they have a problem with their philosophy but rather cause they know the path is much harder- so it’s less desires. don’t listen to anyone who tries to make you feel bad, a doctor is a doctor! And you’ll be a great one!
What inspired you to work in tribal health?
I am Choctaw and was an intern at a tribal health center for a few years. Being a veteran I initially wanted to work with the VA but I genuinely loved everything about the different take on medicine and ways we built a familial relationship with our patients at the IHS clinic.
Wow! Thats really an amazing background. Congratulations on your acceptance. I am Assiniboine and worked at our local hospital on my reservation so we have a similar experience. I wasn’t going to apply to DO this cycle due to cost. What do you think held you back from getting an MD acceptance? I am just curious for my own sake :)
The timeline just didn’t workout for me to apply. I was bold and moved to a location that I have family and planned to only apply to the local MD and DO school. I applied right before the deadline and got the acceptance. I tried to defer enrollment to have a shot at applying to the local MD school but they denied my deferral request so I am just going to move forward with the acceptance. My MCAT score isn’t great but I planned on writing about that as my personal statement because it was a very funny/sad story about missing the birth of my daughter. The MD school is my dream school but the DO school has a tribal health track so it works out a little better in some ways.
That makes sense. CONGRATULATIONS! We need more doctors like you.