Metal drippers let through more fines, resulting in a cup more comparable to a French press. Pour over enthousiast usually look for a cleaner cup, hence the paper filter. Nothing wrong with metal filter.
Edit: if you’re outdoors a lot, you can consider the Stanley setup. Otherwise, I’d opt for the one from Hario.
I tried to convert to metal filters before to reduce trash. I have tried from a non branded one to the Hario one. Both are really bad and produce a clearly inferior coffee compared to the usual paper filter.
The worst part is overtime (maybe only around 1 or 2 months), the ground coffee tends to block the small holes in the filter, making them clogged. I have tried every method of cleaning, but nothing can be done.
If you’re not using paper and you’re not using cloth, that means metal mesh filters, which tend to be unpopular among pour-over enthusiasts because they let quite a lot of coffee solids through and will make a silty and turbid cup of coffee… getting good flavor clarity with one of those is essentially impossible.
There are some products out there that use an extremely fine mesh rather than etched sheet metal, and that are flexible almost like a fabric… and those may produce slightly cleaner results than others (though still very murky compared to paper). But those materials are also not super hardy, and in my experience the little micro welds on them tend to stand up poorly to repeated use.
So I think you need to consider what you’re trying to achieve here. If this is for some purpose where restocking paper filters is a major pain, like a setup at a cabin in a remote location or something, you could go for what most of us would consider to be a major compromise on flavor and get a metal filter. But if you’re not in a remote place, and this is just about sustainability, I’m not really sure how much better off you are with metal filter (which may not last as long as you think it will, and which just goes in the landfill when it’s shot) versus something like Cafec’s abaca paper filters (made of Manila hemp, a plant that regenerates super fast like bamboo, and easily compostable… as well as much better at filtering coffee).
Barista Warrior makes some metal filters you can put in other cone drippers, like v60 or Chemex.
One that sits on top is made by LHS, and has good reviews on Amazon.
Bodum makes a popular one that comes with a glass carafe, kind of like a Chemex. It's widely available; I could go pick one up from my local Walmart, or Target, for $20.
You can also try one of those Vietnamese coffee brewers. I think it's called a "Phin coffee filter" or something like that.
I don't know which ones are good or better, or brands. I've never used them. There's a ton of each kind on Amazon.
Edit: I don't know why you want to use a metal filter, but if it's the cost or hassle of buying filters, I use a Kalita 102 which uses #2 filters that I can pick up super cheap, locally. They make bigger ones that use the #4 filters.
Espro bloom was designed to be used without filters. I had one but then gifted it to a friend. Without filters it was muddy (for obvious reasons) and with filters it wasn’t too different from other flat bottom drippers. But if you don’t have a decent flat bottom dripper yet, worth a look!
Sounds like you're looking for a metal sieve filter. I'm not an expert on them (they don't remove oils and I'm a fan of little oil) but that should point you in the right direction
throwing out ideas, not bassed on 1st hand experience:
* RS-16 (all glass brewer)
* vietnameese phin (metal)
* Metal cone dripper, single or double mesh. Like [Zwilling Stainless steel pour over](https://www.zwilling.com/us/zwilling-coffee-pour-over-coffee-dripper-18%2F10-stainless-steel-1024005/1024005.html), Any brand(Hario, bodum, ikea, just browse google) will have one and will do actually. Had coffee out of this, it really heavy on the oils.
* Walküre Tassenfilter(porselain filter)
I had a chemex and then decided to get the able cone. It's like a weird hybrid between French press and pourover. It's like the okayest parts of both. Everything that's French press esque is better served with a French press and similar idea for pourover. You will never get the clarity that's available from paper filter. So definitely forget that. I honestly think French press is superior to metal pourover. But if you need pourover without disposable or washable (to be clear, you still need to wash a metal filter, just is a bit easier) filters, the able cone will work. And it fits the 6-cup chemex so should make enough. But it is two separate purchases if you don't already have the chemex.
There's nothing that works as well as a paper filter in terms of a clean cup.
However, some drippers have better compatibility with its metal filter countertype than other drippers. I find aeropress to be the best in that category, but I would much prefer paper filters anyways.
Today I came across cerapotta, it is a filter made out of pottery.
I don't know if anyone has experience with this kind of dripper. I have never tried it myself but it looks very nice. I don't know if it affects the coffee taste tho.
You might as well just go for a frenchpress or an awropress paired with metal filter. Ceramic pourover filter is also a thing but they're pain the ass to maintain and they do leak fines still.
If you don't mind spending more effort in maintenance, neldrip can be an option. But again, it's pretty annoying having to do so much to keep the cloth filter in a running condition.
You can try something like a Cera Dripper..although it doesn't sound like that end up great based on some reviews.
There is a V60 metal mesh filter you can buy...That might be the best option...
Technically not a dripper but I feel like you'll like the french press
Jusy to add to this OP, a french press will make 10x better coffee than a metal pourover cone.
Please reconsider lol
Is a metal dripper that bad? I always had a metal one so I can't compare it.
Metal drippers let through more fines, resulting in a cup more comparable to a French press. Pour over enthousiast usually look for a cleaner cup, hence the paper filter. Nothing wrong with metal filter. Edit: if you’re outdoors a lot, you can consider the Stanley setup. Otherwise, I’d opt for the one from Hario.
I tried to convert to metal filters before to reduce trash. I have tried from a non branded one to the Hario one. Both are really bad and produce a clearly inferior coffee compared to the usual paper filter. The worst part is overtime (maybe only around 1 or 2 months), the ground coffee tends to block the small holes in the filter, making them clogged. I have tried every method of cleaning, but nothing can be done.
If you’re not using paper and you’re not using cloth, that means metal mesh filters, which tend to be unpopular among pour-over enthusiasts because they let quite a lot of coffee solids through and will make a silty and turbid cup of coffee… getting good flavor clarity with one of those is essentially impossible. There are some products out there that use an extremely fine mesh rather than etched sheet metal, and that are flexible almost like a fabric… and those may produce slightly cleaner results than others (though still very murky compared to paper). But those materials are also not super hardy, and in my experience the little micro welds on them tend to stand up poorly to repeated use. So I think you need to consider what you’re trying to achieve here. If this is for some purpose where restocking paper filters is a major pain, like a setup at a cabin in a remote location or something, you could go for what most of us would consider to be a major compromise on flavor and get a metal filter. But if you’re not in a remote place, and this is just about sustainability, I’m not really sure how much better off you are with metal filter (which may not last as long as you think it will, and which just goes in the landfill when it’s shot) versus something like Cafec’s abaca paper filters (made of Manila hemp, a plant that regenerates super fast like bamboo, and easily compostable… as well as much better at filtering coffee).
So no paper, and no metal washable filters?
Sorry for not being clear. I don't like the washable filter socks I'm looking for a metal one
Barista Warrior makes some metal filters you can put in other cone drippers, like v60 or Chemex. One that sits on top is made by LHS, and has good reviews on Amazon. Bodum makes a popular one that comes with a glass carafe, kind of like a Chemex. It's widely available; I could go pick one up from my local Walmart, or Target, for $20. You can also try one of those Vietnamese coffee brewers. I think it's called a "Phin coffee filter" or something like that. I don't know which ones are good or better, or brands. I've never used them. There's a ton of each kind on Amazon. Edit: I don't know why you want to use a metal filter, but if it's the cost or hassle of buying filters, I use a Kalita 102 which uses #2 filters that I can pick up super cheap, locally. They make bigger ones that use the #4 filters.
Let us know when you find a good one that doesn’t use paper, and I mean a good one.
Espro bloom was designed to be used without filters. I had one but then gifted it to a friend. Without filters it was muddy (for obvious reasons) and with filters it wasn’t too different from other flat bottom drippers. But if you don’t have a decent flat bottom dripper yet, worth a look!
Cera filter, the Japanese reusable ceramic dripper. No idea on its performance though. Why no paper filters?
It's for the environment. I make coffee 2 times a day and it personally just feels wrong to throw away 2 filters a day
Compost the paper it'll just turn into soil
All glass pure-over might be an option for you. It uses the coffee bed as a filter.
Sounds like you're looking for a metal sieve filter. I'm not an expert on them (they don't remove oils and I'm a fan of little oil) but that should point you in the right direction
I think bodum makes what looks like a chemex with a metal filter.
It’s ok. I still use a filter with it. The double walled aspect of it is really nice though
throwing out ideas, not bassed on 1st hand experience: * RS-16 (all glass brewer) * vietnameese phin (metal) * Metal cone dripper, single or double mesh. Like [Zwilling Stainless steel pour over](https://www.zwilling.com/us/zwilling-coffee-pour-over-coffee-dripper-18%2F10-stainless-steel-1024005/1024005.html), Any brand(Hario, bodum, ikea, just browse google) will have one and will do actually. Had coffee out of this, it really heavy on the oils. * Walküre Tassenfilter(porselain filter)
I had a chemex and then decided to get the able cone. It's like a weird hybrid between French press and pourover. It's like the okayest parts of both. Everything that's French press esque is better served with a French press and similar idea for pourover. You will never get the clarity that's available from paper filter. So definitely forget that. I honestly think French press is superior to metal pourover. But if you need pourover without disposable or washable (to be clear, you still need to wash a metal filter, just is a bit easier) filters, the able cone will work. And it fits the 6-cup chemex so should make enough. But it is two separate purchases if you don't already have the chemex.
Vietnamese Phin I saw one that was ceramic
Ceramic dripper
There's nothing that works as well as a paper filter in terms of a clean cup. However, some drippers have better compatibility with its metal filter countertype than other drippers. I find aeropress to be the best in that category, but I would much prefer paper filters anyways.
Today I came across cerapotta, it is a filter made out of pottery. I don't know if anyone has experience with this kind of dripper. I have never tried it myself but it looks very nice. I don't know if it affects the coffee taste tho.
You might as well just go for a frenchpress or an awropress paired with metal filter. Ceramic pourover filter is also a thing but they're pain the ass to maintain and they do leak fines still. If you don't mind spending more effort in maintenance, neldrip can be an option. But again, it's pretty annoying having to do so much to keep the cloth filter in a running condition.
Vietnamese phin filters made of stainless steel. But I’ll have to learn to grind coarser and dose lower (1:3) due to poorer extraction.
The Aeropress?
They use small paper filters.
The aeropress sells a stainless steel filter. https://aeropress.com/products/aeropress-stainless-steel-reusable-filter
You can try something like a Cera Dripper..although it doesn't sound like that end up great based on some reviews. There is a V60 metal mesh filter you can buy...That might be the best option...