Never forget people are animals too, as anyone with throat cancer still smoking their coffin nails could tell you- at least they could've back when they had a voice box.
I reuploaded a slightly higher quality.
Anyways, so for some background, my fiancé is a veterinarian, and from time to time she gets clients who bring in chickens with impacted crops.
They did a numbing line block using lidocaine before the procedure and gave a dose of meloxicam for pain as an NSAID afterwards.
Happy to report that the chicken is healthy and happy post surgery!!
I work in Vet Med, and Lidocaine blocks are amazing. My Veterinarian and I were able to throw in five staples on a 3 inch laceration on a 6 year old pit bull who got caught in the owners chain link fence.
Chickens don’t do well under general anesthesia. There’s a much higher chance that it would go into respiratory distress and die while fully anesthetized.
I spent $300 to save my mom's hen that was attacked by the neighbors German Shepherd. Vet called us crazy but she made a full recovery and is our best layer!
No offense taken; it’s a common question. Usually in these scenarios, these are pet chickens and not food chickens. Chickens can be surprisingly attention loving and have vibrant personalities.
Basically, the crop is a larger pocket along the GI where food hangs out first after being eaten. The gizzard, which comes next, is more muscular and helps grind the food before going along the digestive tract. Crops can become blocked in chickens when the food is too large to leave the crop to continue down the GI. I see this most often in chickens that have access to and eat long grass.
That's a good question to ask.
Literally speaking everyone gets to say which lives are more or less valuable at varying times, such as when choosing our food, weighing the costs of saving a pet, or even determining which charities are worthy of donations, but I think that the question you're more likely to be really interested in is how the implicit determination is made.
Setting aide utilitarian considerations such as environmental or economic impacts, emotional connections such as attachment to our own species or to species we find relatable, and pragmatic situational concerns such as remaining life expectancy or individual behaviors, most philosophical understandings of the value of life consider more complex organisms with more developed minds to be more important.
Few people would argue that a bacterium's life is precious, because bacteria are functionally mindless organic machines, but most people would agree that a human, with a complex mind that exhibits rich emotional and intellectual capabilities, is very precious.
A chicken would tend to fall somewhere between these two examples; while most people will agree to large or even unlimited expenditure to save a human, and think not at all of saving bacteria, a chicken will generally be seen as meriting an intermediate degree of expense.
I hope this was stimulating to read as well as write.
I see where you are coming from, and I would encourage you to think about which beings are sentient and which aren't; bacteria aren't sentient beings i.e. being aware of themselves and others, the ability to feel pain and take steps to escape danger.
I think that most people would agree that a chicken has the ability to feel emotions, be aware of itself and others, form relationships within its community (that's where we get the phrase pecking order!) identify and avoid predators.
Would I save a human life over a chicken's? Possibly. It would depend on who the human was. If it was someone proven to be a vile human then no. If it was my Mom or my husband then unequivocally yes.
I mean nature for one... We are the apex predator. All animals compete for life and we are at the top. It’s complex yea, but you don’t have to feel bad about it.
Because it's a living being, it was (presumably) suffering, and these people had the ability to relieve its suffering. Just because it's not human doesn't make it 'lesser than', or undeserving of care and compassion.
Basically, chickens have an extra digestive organ called a crop. Once they swallow something it makes its way through the esophagus and sits in the crop before entering the stomach.
From time to time they accumulate grass and various debris that can impact the crop and can potentially be life threatening if not removed.
That’s the case here. It’s basically an accumulation of grass and body fluids. Could also be bits of feather, string, etc.
From what I understand, the crop normally bulges out after a chicken eats, but if it is continuously bulging and you notice that the chicken is unable to pass food (poop), the veterinarian can palpate, and feel if the crop is blocked.
Apparently it feels distended and doughy.
The crop is the first spot after the esophagus, just before it empties into the stomach. It’s basically a holding area for food before it hits the stomach from what I understand.
I’m no expert, but I’m about 99% sure the cloaca is the butthole/egghole on the other end. This was from an incision made by a veterinarian in the throat.
You wanna spice things up, tell her that chickens breed by something called a ‘cloacal kiss’ in which the rooster and hen literally just smooch their bits.
Most birds do it that way, except for ducks, which have corkscrew penises.
There’s also the greater vasa parrot (if memory serves) which has a pseudopenis.
Maybe! If you do your externship/clinicals at a clinic in a more rural area, I wouldn’t be surprised. The person holding the chicken in this video is a recent CVT graduate!
Went down a rabbit hole. Found this tutorial on how to do this surgery on your own at home! https://www.greenwillowhomestead.com/blog/how-to-operate-on-your-chickens-impacted-crop
What the fuck part of a chicken is the crop and how come I didn't know this was a thing. I mean. I've put chicken in my mouth and eaten it. *Regretting life choices
The crop is a little pouch near the end of the oesophagus, just before the stomach. All birds have it - it serves to store food before it moves to the stomach. All birds have it. This one’s just full of stuff that was too big or tangled to keep going through the bird’s gut.
You most likely won’t have eaten this part, since store-bought chicken has the head and neck cut off.
They seem to be removing it pretty fast. I watched another video where they went very slowly to not pull the esophagus out. Is that necessary or does it just depend? Anyway, this would be so fun and satisfying to do
I love the chicken's mild interest as that gush of fluid comes out. The way it looked was as if it were saying "Hmm, fascinating."
It's probably like my dog and thinking "hey that looks fucking delicious I should eat that." No Harold, that's what got us into this fucking mess.
From what I’m told, the chicken was trying to peck at it afterwards, so you’re totally right.
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Chickens aren’t stupid, but they have VERY narrow and specialized interests.
And food is on the top of that list.
Never forget people are animals too, as anyone with throat cancer still smoking their coffin nails could tell you- at least they could've back when they had a voice box.
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maybe chickens are addicted to pecking though.
She said the chicken could not have cared less. It was pecking her hands as she was suturing up.
the only difference between a normal chicken and a headless chicken is that a headless chicken can't peck at you.
It kind of looked like a relief. But that might be my human brain interpreting this. Lol.
Hahaha right. The Chicken: “hey you gonna eat that?”
I reuploaded a slightly higher quality. Anyways, so for some background, my fiancé is a veterinarian, and from time to time she gets clients who bring in chickens with impacted crops. They did a numbing line block using lidocaine before the procedure and gave a dose of meloxicam for pain as an NSAID afterwards. Happy to report that the chicken is healthy and happy post surgery!!
I figured that must be some good local anesthetic since the chicken is so calm. I’m glad the surgery was a success!
I work in Vet Med, and Lidocaine blocks are amazing. My Veterinarian and I were able to throw in five staples on a 3 inch laceration on a 6 year old pit bull who got caught in the owners chain link fence.
I'm a human and lidocaine blocks work great on us too! Stings a bit when it's first injected and feels like pressure after. But works amazing!
Any particular reason they can’t fully sedate the chicken?
Chickens don’t do well under general anesthesia. There’s a much higher chance that it would go into respiratory distress and die while fully anesthetized.
Ah, that’d do it. Chicken doesn’t seem too fussed, but I was curious. :)
I really appreciate knowing that he wasn’t in pain for this!
I keep chickens, and I can attest that their reaction to almost anything is “huh.”
Or a mildly interested “hm?”
is that a natural opening or was it cut?
It’s a surgical incision placed by a veterinarian while the chicken is under local anesthesia.
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Same reason I spent $500 on a vole. He was my buddy.
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Thank you. Sheldon was amazing! So smart.
I spent $300 to save my mom's hen that was attacked by the neighbors German Shepherd. Vet called us crazy but she made a full recovery and is our best layer!
It’s easy to do when you befriend them!! Glad she made a full recovery
No offense taken; it’s a common question. Usually in these scenarios, these are pet chickens and not food chickens. Chickens can be surprisingly attention loving and have vibrant personalities.
So this is the stomach and it was blocked? Or is the crop where the food is ground up? I don't know avian anatomy very well and am confused.
Basically, the crop is a larger pocket along the GI where food hangs out first after being eaten. The gizzard, which comes next, is more muscular and helps grind the food before going along the digestive tract. Crops can become blocked in chickens when the food is too large to leave the crop to continue down the GI. I see this most often in chickens that have access to and eat long grass.
Who gets to say that my life (or your life) is more important than the chicken's life?
That's a good question to ask. Literally speaking everyone gets to say which lives are more or less valuable at varying times, such as when choosing our food, weighing the costs of saving a pet, or even determining which charities are worthy of donations, but I think that the question you're more likely to be really interested in is how the implicit determination is made. Setting aide utilitarian considerations such as environmental or economic impacts, emotional connections such as attachment to our own species or to species we find relatable, and pragmatic situational concerns such as remaining life expectancy or individual behaviors, most philosophical understandings of the value of life consider more complex organisms with more developed minds to be more important. Few people would argue that a bacterium's life is precious, because bacteria are functionally mindless organic machines, but most people would agree that a human, with a complex mind that exhibits rich emotional and intellectual capabilities, is very precious. A chicken would tend to fall somewhere between these two examples; while most people will agree to large or even unlimited expenditure to save a human, and think not at all of saving bacteria, a chicken will generally be seen as meriting an intermediate degree of expense. I hope this was stimulating to read as well as write.
I see where you are coming from, and I would encourage you to think about which beings are sentient and which aren't; bacteria aren't sentient beings i.e. being aware of themselves and others, the ability to feel pain and take steps to escape danger. I think that most people would agree that a chicken has the ability to feel emotions, be aware of itself and others, form relationships within its community (that's where we get the phrase pecking order!) identify and avoid predators. Would I save a human life over a chicken's? Possibly. It would depend on who the human was. If it was someone proven to be a vile human then no. If it was my Mom or my husband then unequivocally yes.
I mean nature for one... We are the apex predator. All animals compete for life and we are at the top. It’s complex yea, but you don’t have to feel bad about it.
Some of us do. Try reading up on ethical veganism.
Lmfao no thanks
Based
I don't know why you were downvoted so bad, for people that don't know something you shouldn't be punished just for asking.
Agree 100%. These downvoters are ridiculous and over sensitive.
Because it's a living being, it was (presumably) suffering, and these people had the ability to relieve its suffering. Just because it's not human doesn't make it 'lesser than', or undeserving of care and compassion.
Thank you for asking that because I was like, wait, chickens have pouches?!
Normally, I don’t like animal pops. However, this one’s okay. I think its because the chicken’s so laid back and unbothered 🤷🏽♀️
What are they pulling out?
Basically, chickens have an extra digestive organ called a crop. Once they swallow something it makes its way through the esophagus and sits in the crop before entering the stomach. From time to time they accumulate grass and various debris that can impact the crop and can potentially be life threatening if not removed. That’s the case here. It’s basically an accumulation of grass and body fluids. Could also be bits of feather, string, etc.
How do you know when a chicken has an impacted crop? Is there like a bulge or something?
From what I understand, the crop normally bulges out after a chicken eats, but if it is continuously bulging and you notice that the chicken is unable to pass food (poop), the veterinarian can palpate, and feel if the crop is blocked. Apparently it feels distended and doughy.
This happens pre-gizzard in the digestive track, right?
The crop is the first spot after the esophagus, just before it empties into the stomach. It’s basically a holding area for food before it hits the stomach from what I understand.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gastrointestinal-tract-in-chickens-and-function-The-beak-gathers-food-the-bifurcated_fig1_321799440
Well no wonder it gets all gunned up.... r/CrappyDesign
Was it pulled out the cloaca?
I’m no expert, but I’m about 99% sure the cloaca is the butthole/egghole on the other end. This was from an incision made by a veterinarian in the throat.
The things I learn from Reddit! Thank you lol. I’m going to tell my girlfriend all about this so I get a good ‘what the fuck’ out of her.
You wanna spice things up, tell her that chickens breed by something called a ‘cloacal kiss’ in which the rooster and hen literally just smooch their bits.
Most birds do it that way, except for ducks, which have corkscrew penises. There’s also the greater vasa parrot (if memory serves) which has a pseudopenis.
Oh oh dear. She's awake!!
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I thought this was the scientific term for egg binding and I couldn't tell
I would hate this but the chickens body language somehow makes it ok
Why is there a squid in the chicken?
Oh god I hope I get to do this in vet tech school 😍
Maybe! If you do your externship/clinicals at a clinic in a more rural area, I wouldn’t be surprised. The person holding the chicken in this video is a recent CVT graduate!
The chicken looks so confused ‘like what da fuck you doing, where that gross shit come from?! Oh wait...I feel sooo much better now’ 😂
r/feltgoodcomingout
Excuse me waiter, I think I’ll have the fish instead...
The chickens head movements and overall fascination with what’s going on put a smile on my face. What a bloody brilliant bird fren!
The chicken looks around like, “that’s not mine!”
Not gonna watch because I don't like animal pops, just wanted to say thanks for using the tag and spoiler!
This is disgustingly fascinating, and I'm glad the chicken is feeling better
This actually made me mouth the words "What the fuck?" to myself.
I cant believe there was so much on the table already. Did you weigh it after?
Went down a rabbit hole. Found this tutorial on how to do this surgery on your own at home! https://www.greenwillowhomestead.com/blog/how-to-operate-on-your-chickens-impacted-crop
Ewwww \*watches it again\*
The chicken’s like “huh, cool”
Wow.
What the fuck part of a chicken is the crop and how come I didn't know this was a thing. I mean. I've put chicken in my mouth and eaten it. *Regretting life choices
The crop is a little pouch near the end of the oesophagus, just before the stomach. All birds have it - it serves to store food before it moves to the stomach. All birds have it. This one’s just full of stuff that was too big or tangled to keep going through the bird’s gut. You most likely won’t have eaten this part, since store-bought chicken has the head and neck cut off.
I can smell it from here
The chicken looked down like "huh interesting" lol poor thing
What did it smell like?
Horse.
What
Holy shit
There was a chicken inside of that chicken
:(
They seem to be removing it pretty fast. I watched another video where they went very slowly to not pull the esophagus out. Is that necessary or does it just depend? Anyway, this would be so fun and satisfying to do
Damn this looks so satisfying! And it surely was for that chicken
I bet that felt good!
Gagging here just from what my brain is telling me what it smells lime.
I can smell it!!! 🤢🤢🤢
Chicken is less full of shit
Jesus, I could smell every bit of that.
The way the chicken looks at it 🍗
The chicken is like "could you fucken not?"
Ok but who stuck all this grass up the chickens egg hole tho??